Doom switch edition is out

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Only played like an hour, and I wait until my kids are going to bed before trying docked (what are you playing mommy ? Aaaaah, monsters, I'm afraid !)

So far, the game seem very nice to me. The fonts are a little bit hard to read, but nothing too bad. It's fast, packed with action and blood. So far I love it.

But I tried to read reviews about it, and I'm kind of disappointed that every single review out there so far seems to only compare it to the PS4/Xbox/pic version. I want to know if the game is good on it's own merits not if it hold up against other version graphics, and if the game is complete or if there's something missing. I don't care that it run at 30fps. I mean,if I look at some comment, some people seems to think that their eye will bleed if they dare watch something at 30 fps...

So you tried it so far ? What do you think of it ?

cathou:
But I tried to read reviews about it, and I'm kind of disappointed that every single review out there so far seems to only compare it to the PS4/Xbox/pic version. I want to know if the game is good on it's own merits not if it hold up against other version graphics, and if the game is complete or if there's something missing. I don't care that it run at 30fps. I mean,if I look at some comment, some people seems to think that their eye will bleed if they dare watch something at 30 fps...

Then why don't you just read the reviews that came out two years ago? The same publications don't need to review the content again.

The small console is always going to be compared to the big console, because what people worry about is whether or not the small console is handling all the action of the game as well as the big one. My advice is to not take any of this personally. If you like the game and it seems to be performing well for your Switch, that's all you really need.

I was gonna type something facetious about the Switch being a kiddy console because Nintendo ("Does the gun shoot bunnies? Do they cuddle the monsters to death?") but fuck it, I'm glad to hear it's getting some variety. But I don't think reviewers would cover ports from games that are what, almost two years old?

So, I did play a bit docked, and actually, it?s not that bad as some people say it is. I?ve read a review that said it good on the go but don?t dock it because it?s slow and ugly, but it?s not. But again, I don?t have a PS4 or an Xbox one, and my gaming pc is 8 years old, so i?m not exactly use to play game with very high graphics I guess. But so far the frame rate seems steady even with many enemies on the screen. But I do have encounter the sound bug that many reviewers have noticed, basically sometimes the sound of the game goes mute for no reason. If it?s that common I guess they might patch it later on.

But damn do I suck at this game so far ! It probably my first real shooter on console too (ok beside gears of wars) so I really miss my mouse and my keyboard. Maybe I will pick up a pro controller if it get on sale at Christmas, it might help

Johnny Novgorod:
I was gonna type something facetious about the Switch being a kiddy console because Nintendo ("Does the gun shoot bunnies? Do they cuddle the monsters to death?") but fuck it, I'm glad to hear it's getting some variety.

i think we have past that. i mean, doom, next week Skyrim, LA noire, Wolfenstein II, darkest dungeon, payday 2, resident evil revelation... that prove that there enough variety for everyone in line...

Switch version looks fine. nowhere close to being the same type of night and day difference between the graphics like what was had between the Wii compared with 360 & PS3, which graphics whores keep falsely claiming the difference to be.

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cathou:
So, I did play a bit docked, and actually, it?s not that bad as some people say it is. I?ve read a review that said it good on the go but don?t dock it because it?s slow and ugly, but it?s not. But again, I don?t have a PS4 or an Xbox one, and my gaming pc is 8 years old, so i?m not exactly use to play game with very high graphics I guess. But so far the frame rate seems steady even with many enemies on the screen. But I do have encounter the sound bug that many reviewers have noticed, basically sometimes the sound of the game goes mute for no reason. If it?s that common I guess they might patch it later on.

But damn do I suck at this game so far ! It probably my first real shooter on console too (ok beside gears of wars) so I really miss my mouse and my keyboard. Maybe I will pick up a pro controller if it get on sale at Christmas, it might help

Johnny Novgorod:
I was gonna type something facetious about the Switch being a kiddy console because Nintendo ("Does the gun shoot bunnies? Do they cuddle the monsters to death?") but fuck it, I'm glad to hear it's getting some variety.

i think we have past that. i mean, doom, next week Skyrim, LA noire, Wolfenstein II, darkest dungeon, payday 2, resident evil revelation... that prove that there enough variety for everyone in line...

technically Nintendo had resident evil revelations before even xbox and playstation did.

Why not get a PS4 when Black Friday/Cyber Monday rolls around?

I mean, if you can afford it, the system is well worth it.

Since the N64 I've rarely bought non-exclusive games for Nintendo systems.
The other versions tend to run/play better.
-Yes, yes, I know there's games like RE4 and Viewtiful Joe that ran better on the NGC.

I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.

I mean, if you're not worried about comparisons, then read the old reviews. No Nintendo Switch/Ps4 comparisons there.

I think to even bother posting another article on the same game from a year ago would only be worth the trouble if the article was about something new, and it just looks like DOOM on the Switch is literally just DOOM. On the Switch. It looks objectively less detailed, but if you're not worried about details it's fine, as long as the framerate holds it 30FPS mark. That's really the only thing to talk about with the Switch version. How it compares.

Yeah, but the music still is mediocre.

Arnoxthe1:
I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.

Wolfenstein II is last gen. kek.

Dreamcastguy did a pretty good review on the switch version:

Yoshi178:
Switch version looks fine. nowhere close to being the same type of night and day difference between the graphics like what was had between the Wii compared with 360 & PS3, which graphics whores keep falsely claiming the difference to be.

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1) That's a zoom-in on a background, which is always going to have fuzzier detail on all systems.

2) There's a heck of a difference once it's in motion...

3) ...as well a difference in price. This game is going for 60 bucks on the Switch, meanwhile on PC/PS4/Xbone it's 20 bucks.

The soon to be released L.A. Noire remaster is going for 10 bucks more on Switch, too (as well as apparently needing an SD card to even run). So you get inferior quality for more money. Unless you're someone who desperately values gaming on the go I don't see how anyone would buy these games over the PC/PS4/Xbone versions.

Casual Shinji:

Yoshi178:
Switch version looks fine. nowhere close to being the same type of night and day difference between the graphics like what was had between the Wii compared with 360 & PS3, which graphics whores keep falsely claiming the difference to be.

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1) That's a zoom-in on a background, which is always going to have fuzzier detail on all systems.

2) There's a heck of a difference once it's in motion...

3) ...as well a difference in price. This game is going for 60 bucks on the Switch, meanwhile on PC/PS4/Xbone it's 20 bucks.

The soon to be released L.A. Noire remaster is going for 10 bucks more on Switch, too (as well as apparently needing an SD card to even run). So you get inferior quality for more money. Unless you're someone who desperately values gaming on the go I don't see how anyone would buy these games over the PC/PS4/Xbone versions.

wanting to play games on the go atuomatically makes you desperate now somehow.

you keep telling youself that if it makes you feel better just because you have a slightly prettier picture on your system. XD

Yoshi178:
wanting to play games on the go atuomatically makes you desperate now somehow.

you keep telling youself that if it makes you feel better just because you have a slightly prettier picture on your system. XD

Did I say you're automatically desperate if you want to play on the go? No I didn't. I said that if you desperately value it, as in, only wanting to play handheld and never opting for sitting infront of a TV screen/monitor.

Yoshi178:
Wolfenstein II is last gen. kek.

Wolfenstein II is also idTech.

Casual Shinji:

Yoshi178:
wanting to play games on the go atuomatically makes you desperate now somehow.

you keep telling youself that if it makes you feel better just because you have a slightly prettier picture on your system. XD

Did I say you're automatically desperate if you want to play on the go? No I didn't. I said that if you desperately value it, as in, only wanting to play handheld and never opting for sitting infront of a TV screen/monitor.

good thing most Nintendo Switch owners generally use both handheld and TV features then isn't it?

Arnoxthe1:

Yoshi178:
Wolfenstein II is last gen. kek.

Wolfenstein II is also idTech.

Wolfenstein II also only came out a couple of weeks ago.

Yoshi178:

Casual Shinji:

Yoshi178:
wanting to play games on the go atuomatically makes you desperate now somehow.

you keep telling youself that if it makes you feel better just because you have a slightly prettier picture on your system. XD

Did I say you're automatically desperate if you want to play on the go? No I didn't. I said that if you desperately value it, as in, only wanting to play handheld and never opting for sitting infront of a TV screen/monitor.

good thing most Nintendo Switch owners generally use both handheld and TV features then isn't it?

Hence why one would need to desperately value the handheld function if they pay for a more expensive and more inferior version of third-party games.

cathou:

Johnny Novgorod:
I was gonna type something facetious about the Switch being a kiddy console because Nintendo ("Does the gun shoot bunnies? Do they cuddle the monsters to death?") but fuck it, I'm glad to hear it's getting some variety.

i think we have past that. i mean, doom, next week Skyrim, LA noire, Wolfenstein II, darkest dungeon, payday 2, resident evil revelation... that prove that there enough variety for everyone in line...

Yeah but with the exception of maybe a couple of games it feels like Switch is only getting ports from one or two generations ago.

I was going to try to justify getting this on PS4 for cheaper this year, but I'm sick of FPSs. I feel like the graphics are only noticeable better on a decent gaming PC, which I don't have. I will probably wait until I have a Switch, so it doesn't hog the TV. Or just never play it at all.

Yoshi178:
Wolfenstein II also only came out a couple of weeks ago.

Same engine as Doom 4. Same optimizations. (Well, mostly.) Doesn't count.

Casual Shinji:

Yoshi178:

Casual Shinji:
Did I say you're automatically desperate if you want to play on the go? No I didn't. I said that if you desperately value it, as in, only wanting to play handheld and never opting for sitting infront of a TV screen/monitor.

good thing most Nintendo Switch owners generally use both handheld and TV features then isn't it?

Hence why one would need to desperately value the handheld function if they pay for a more expensive and more inferior version of third-party games.

Because we value both handheld and sitting in front of a tv. I guess everybody that bought a switch probably have their own personal reason to do it. Sure, I could get a ps4, but I don't have the money to get both. Most of ps4/Xbox games I can get on my pc anyway. But my pc is old and graphically, games look shitty, but are still playable. However, I.m married and I have two kids. I don't have control over the tv most of the time. However I think it's very antisocial to go in the basement to go play games while everyone else is upstairs. Plus I often have very little time to game, because my kids need something or I have something to do in the house.

With the switch, not only i can play with it without using the tv, but people that never tried it don't r?alis? what on the go mean. The system is made to be turn on and off at any moment. So I can start to play, play for 6 minutes, stop playing because my kids need something, pick it back exeactly where I left, play 10 minutes more, stop to prepare the food, then pick it back again later. I play maybe 2 hours on a Saturday before the kids go to bed, but that two hour is spread over many session. That would be impossible on a ps4, unless I left it on all day long.

So now I have the choice to either get a game like Doom or Skyrim On my pc, but having to play mostly at night and less often, or pay a little more and get them on the switch, but having the possibility to play more with it.

Casual Shinji:

Yoshi178:

Casual Shinji:
Did I say you're automatically desperate if you want to play on the go? No I didn't. I said that if you desperately value it, as in, only wanting to play handheld and never opting for sitting infront of a TV screen/monitor.

good thing most Nintendo Switch owners generally use both handheld and TV features then isn't it?

Hence why one would need to desperately value the handheld function if they pay for a more expensive and more inferior version of third-party games.

inferior version?

more like the superior version unless you're "desperate" as you say, to sacrifice portabilty just to only have a SLIGHTLY prettier picture on your TV.

Johnny Novgorod:

cathou:

Johnny Novgorod:
I was gonna type something facetious about the Switch being a kiddy console because Nintendo ("Does the gun shoot bunnies? Do they cuddle the monsters to death?") but fuck it, I'm glad to hear it's getting some variety.

i think we have past that. i mean, doom, next week Skyrim, LA noire, Wolfenstein II, darkest dungeon, payday 2, resident evil revelation... that prove that there enough variety for everyone in line...

Yeah but with the exception of maybe a couple of games it feels like Switch is only getting ports from one or two generations ago.

both Namco Bandai and Capcom have already said that they are going to be giving the Switch more support by both releasing new and exclusive games to the Switch in 2018

https://www.destructoid.com/bandai-namco-to-increase-switch-support-in-2018-including-three-exclusive-games-471406.phtml

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/11/capcom_to_bring_increased_support_and_ace_attorney_to_switch_in_2018

just because you haven't seen them yet doesn't mean they aren't being worked on. and like i've already said a few times this year, the more that Switch keeps getting sales, the more 3rd Party support it will get and continue to keep growing and so far i haven't been proven wrong about this.

Arnoxthe1:

Yoshi178:
Wolfenstein II also only came out a couple of weeks ago.

Same engine as Doom 4. Same optimizations. (Well, mostly.) Doesn't count.

and yet people like Johnny Novgorod over here kept bragging about how Switch wasn't ever going to get "Current" gen titles like Wolfenstein II and such to me earlier this year back in about June i think it was.

It's funny how now that Wolfenstein II has been announced to also be released on Switch as well as the PS4 and Xbox One, suddenly it "doesn't count" as a Current Gen title anymore to people on the escapist. LOL.

Yoshi178:
and yet people like Johnny Novgorod over here kept bragging about how Switch wasn't ever going to get "Current" gen titles like Wolfenstein II and such to me earlier this year back in about June i think it was.

I don't care what Johnny said because I didn't say that. I said I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.

Arnoxthe1:

Yoshi178:
and yet people like Johnny Novgorod over here kept bragging about how Switch wasn't ever going to get "Current" gen titles like Wolfenstein II and such to me earlier this year back in about June i think it was.

I don't care what Johnny said because I didn't say that.

Me neither, dude has a habit of twisting words around.

Johnny Novgorod:

Arnoxthe1:

Yoshi178:
and yet people like Johnny Novgorod over here kept bragging about how Switch wasn't ever going to get "Current" gen titles like Wolfenstein II and such to me earlier this year back in about June i think it was.

I don't care what Johnny said because I didn't say that.

Me neither, dude has a habit of twisting words around.

oh really?

what's this then? oh and my mistake it was July, not June that you said exactly this.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.999917-Nintendo-Switch-has-sold-4-7-Million-units-to-date?page=2#comment_form

Johnny Novgorod:

Phoenixmgs:
I'm mainly asking if Nintendo has ever promised 3rd-party support to where they say you will be able to play basically all multiplats on our system like PC/Xbone/PS4. Sure they always say devs are interested in the system and the do get ports of older games like a Batman Arkham City or Skyrim. But Nintendo has yet to promise their system could ever be a primary gaming platform like the other platforms can be.

A little before launch a corporate press release from Nintendo provided this image:

image

A couple of months in, this is the reality:

No Anthem
No Assassins Creed Origins
No Call of Duty WW2
No Destiny 2
No Dishonored
No Far Cry 5
No Kingdom Hearts 3
No Life is Strange 2
No Middle Earth Shadow of War
No Monster Hunter World
No Need for Speed Payback
No Ni no Kuni 2
No Red Dead Redemption 2
No South Park Fractured But Whole
No Star Wars Battlefront 2
No The Evil Within 2
No Wolfenstein 2
And so on

In summary, never believe Nintendo when they tell you they're totally going to get 3rd party support.
In hindsight it should be obvious: the Switch is underpowered by one or two generations. No fucking way the devs want any part in it. I suspect their "support" boils down to porting 7th gen games like Skyrim rather than keeping the Switch stocked with current-gen games. So once more Nintendo is cornered into their teeny neck of the woods with a novelty gimmick, a single killer app (that is available on a previous console anyway) and marketing stunts like limited edition crap and artifitial scarcity scalper fodder.

Arnoxthe1:

Yoshi178:
and yet people like Johnny Novgorod over here kept bragging about how Switch wasn't ever going to get "Current" gen titles like Wolfenstein II and such to me earlier this year back in about June i think it was.

I don't care what Johnny said because I didn't say that. I said I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.

Pretty sure games like Rocket League, Sonic Forces, WWE 2k18 and Fifa 18 are all current generation games.

but i'm sure you'll make up some excuse as to why those don't count too...

I thought this was a Doom thread, not another Switch thread?

Naldan:
Yeah, but the music still is mediocre.

Oi!

People can rag on Doom 2016 all they want as far as I'm concerned, but the music is one of the best parts of the game.

Naldan:
Yeah, but the music still is mediocre.

One of my many pet peeves with this game.

Yoshi178:
inferior version?

more like the superior version unless you're "desperate" as you say, to sacrifice portabilty just to only have a SLIGHTLY prettier picture on your TV.

Yes, it's the superior version, because... it's....... portable? Who needs better picture, better framerate, better sound, and better controls (the joycons have pin needles for buttons) for a lower price when you have portability.

Look, the Switch is nice for whatever exclussives it'll get, but for any multiplatform game you're paying more for something that is worse from a technical standpoint. If these games were cheaper on the Switch than they are on the PC/PS4/Xbone you could have a good deal, but they're not, they're more expensive.

Arnoxthe1:
I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.

There's also Sonic Forces, say what you will about the game itself, but the Switch port is basically the same as the other versions (outside of, like Doom, a halved framerate).

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