EA on why lootboxes aren't cosmetics only; Because "it's not canon"

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Chimpzy:

Canadamus Prime:
Does anyone remember when stuff like that could be unlocked by completing in game challenges? I miss those days.

If you'd ask nowadays they'd probably answer along the lines of:
"We only did that because we hadn't found a way to make you pay for it yet".

To which I would reply,
"You mean you hadn't found reasons for me to refuse to give you my money."

Canadamus Prime:

hermes:
Really? You are complaining about this? It makes a lot of sense, yet it is cool to complain about EA, so obviously they are the only ones to blame for ruining SW.

A company that actively lobbies to keep copyright laws from catching up with they mascot's debut, and yet it is so hard to believe they would have issues with Mariachi Solo or Pink Vader? They throw a bunch of books and characters under the rug so that they start anew, yet people expect EA to get a free pass to have Ninja Maul? One of the most protective corporations in the world licences a game and you are surprised it doesn't have so much as a palette swap for the most prominent characters? Did you thought this game was a chance to "express yourself" through cosmetics?

Let me explain how these licensed games work, since a lot of people love to throw shit at whatever target is available: Unlike examples like LoL or Overwatch, EA doesn't own the IP, Disney does, and they approve every single piece of art, model and voiceline. Sometimes they even provide the artwork, not because of saving extra work for EA, but to make sure the developers use that and only that... In any big budget licensed game, there are people (a mix of lawyers and specialists in the IP) whose job is to check everything and decide if it fits. If they have a problem, they have more authority than the game director to editorialize content. Most of the times, their job is not to comment on gameplay elements (they don't care that Darth Vader has the same hitpoint than Rey, whether a skilled Jar Jar could kill a noob Palpatine, or whether a trooper dies of one or two blasts to the face) and they don't care about the "plausibility" of having Ren and Vader on the same stage, the same way DC doesn't care that the Joker can fight Superman in Injustice, but include a blonde Leia and they will get involved.

At the end of the day, EA made a lot of bad decisions with the game, but if you want to blame someone for a licensed game not being customizable enough, you should look at the other direction. I am sure the developers and artists would love to make things more significant than a +2 blaster, but their figurative bosses are a bunch of lawyers with a lot of red tape.

Except if I'm not mistaken character customization was available in the previous Battlefront game and EA is talking out of it's ass, as usual. Besides none of that excuses the use of loot boxes in the first place.

I am not excusing them for having loot boxes. As I said, a lot of bad decisions were made... However, the character customization available in previous games was not what both EA and polygon are talking, which was heroes' cosmetic customization. Nobody cares for Stormtrooper 5 or Female Rebel 3, what they were asking for was for Samurai Vader and McQuarrie's C3PO.

hermes:

Canadamus Prime:

hermes:
Really? You are complaining about this? It makes a lot of sense, yet it is cool to complain about EA, so obviously they are the only ones to blame for ruining SW.

A company that actively lobbies to keep copyright laws from catching up with they mascot's debut, and yet it is so hard to believe they would have issues with Mariachi Solo or Pink Vader? They throw a bunch of books and characters under the rug so that they start anew, yet people expect EA to get a free pass to have Ninja Maul? One of the most protective corporations in the world licences a game and you are surprised it doesn't have so much as a palette swap for the most prominent characters? Did you thought this game was a chance to "express yourself" through cosmetics?

Let me explain how these licensed games work, since a lot of people love to throw shit at whatever target is available: Unlike examples like LoL or Overwatch, EA doesn't own the IP, Disney does, and they approve every single piece of art, model and voiceline. Sometimes they even provide the artwork, not because of saving extra work for EA, but to make sure the developers use that and only that... In any big budget licensed game, there are people (a mix of lawyers and specialists in the IP) whose job is to check everything and decide if it fits. If they have a problem, they have more authority than the game director to editorialize content. Most of the times, their job is not to comment on gameplay elements (they don't care that Darth Vader has the same hitpoint than Rey, whether a skilled Jar Jar could kill a noob Palpatine, or whether a trooper dies of one or two blasts to the face) and they don't care about the "plausibility" of having Ren and Vader on the same stage, the same way DC doesn't care that the Joker can fight Superman in Injustice, but include a blonde Leia and they will get involved.

At the end of the day, EA made a lot of bad decisions with the game, but if you want to blame someone for a licensed game not being customizable enough, you should look at the other direction. I am sure the developers and artists would love to make things more significant than a +2 blaster, but their figurative bosses are a bunch of lawyers with a lot of red tape.

Except if I'm not mistaken character customization was available in the previous Battlefront game and EA is talking out of it's ass, as usual. Besides none of that excuses the use of loot boxes in the first place.

I am not excusing them for having loot boxes. As I said, a lot of bad decisions were made... However, the character customization available in previous games was not what both EA and polygon are talking, which was heroes' cosmetic customization. Nobody cares for Stormtrooper 5 or Female Rebel 3, what they were asking for was for Samurai Vader and McQuarrie's C3PO.

Except nobody was "asking" for anything. EA is just using this as an cheap excuse to justify their cheap-ass Pay-to-Win bullshit and shift the blame away from them and failing miserably.

Canadamus Prime:

hermes:

Canadamus Prime:
Except if I'm not mistaken character customization was available in the previous Battlefront game and EA is talking out of it's ass, as usual. Besides none of that excuses the use of loot boxes in the first place.

I am not excusing them for having loot boxes. As I said, a lot of bad decisions were made... However, the character customization available in previous games was not what both EA and polygon are talking, which was heroes' cosmetic customization. Nobody cares for Stormtrooper 5 or Female Rebel 3, what they were asking for was for Samurai Vader and McQuarrie's C3PO.

Except nobody was "asking" for anything. EA is just using this as an cheap excuse to justify their cheap-ass Pay-to-Win bullshit and shift the blame away from them and failing miserably.

Ok, cool down a little. If you want to cover your ears and vent your anger about those "evil developers", be my guest, just don't try to pass those ramblings as "arguments".

The OP links to a Jorgensen interview, so yes. Someone was asking someone else about it.

hermes:

Canadamus Prime:

hermes:
I am not excusing them for having loot boxes. As I said, a lot of bad decisions were made... However, the character customization available in previous games was not what both EA and polygon are talking, which was heroes' cosmetic customization. Nobody cares for Stormtrooper 5 or Female Rebel 3, what they were asking for was for Samurai Vader and McQuarrie's C3PO.

Except nobody was "asking" for anything. EA is just using this as an cheap excuse to justify their cheap-ass Pay-to-Win bullshit and shift the blame away from them and failing miserably.

Ok, cool down a little. If you want to cover your hears and vent your anger about those "evil developers", be my guest, just don't try to pass those ramblings as "arguments".

The OP links to a Jorgensen interview, so yes. Someone was asking someone else about it.

Cover my what? Well whatever. Well I'm sorry if I get a little passionate about this, but I hate to see gaming ruined by this shit.
Also the developers aren't evil, the Publishers are... well I wouldn't call them "evil" exactly; greedy, underhanded, two-faced, scummy sure, but not evil.


The sky is blue, water is wet, and EA is full of shit.

So that means it is canon that the Empire equips it's Stormtroopers with weapons and supplies via random chance?

That explains why Stormtroopers in the movies are such poor marksmen, none of them were lucky enough to get the accuracy upgrades in their boxes!

hermes:

Canadamus Prime:

hermes:
I am not excusing them for having loot boxes. As I said, a lot of bad decisions were made... However, the character customization available in previous games was not what both EA and polygon are talking, which was heroes' cosmetic customization. Nobody cares for Stormtrooper 5 or Female Rebel 3, what they were asking for was for Samurai Vader and McQuarrie's C3PO.

Except nobody was "asking" for anything. EA is just using this as an cheap excuse to justify their cheap-ass Pay-to-Win bullshit and shift the blame away from them and failing miserably.

Ok, cool down a little. If you want to cover your ears and vent your anger about those "evil developers", be my guest, just don't try to pass those ramblings as "arguments".

The OP links to a Jorgensen interview, so yes. Someone was asking someone else about it.

And the question wasn't aking why there isn't a 420 Blazer Boba Feet, it was asking why they decided to have the loot boxes contain things that give players objective advantages over other players - thus implementing a pay-2-win format - as opposed to something that would be more reasonably acceptable, such as unlocking bonus cosmetics. To which Jorgensen gave his answer regarding messing with the canon by pointing out an incredibly extreme example of a theoretical cosmetic: Pink Vader. In truth, the cosmetic options - arguably lame as they were - featured in 2015's Battlefront were what people were "asking" for. A Twi'lek rebel. A Rodian empire officer. Stuff like that.

And if that - along with the fact that you can have The Emperor fighting battle droids on Hoth or Yoda in an epic duel against Boba Fett on Naboo - isn't enough to show you that this "we can't mess with cosmetics because it messes with the canon" is complete BS, how about the fact that you can have Han Solo rockin' a beard? I don't remember the part where Han agreed to help Luke and Obi escape Tatooine right after he got in a quick shave. :^)

This is how low people's standards have fallen.

They are OK with cosmetic-only loot boxes ... /smh

Good job game industry. You have won. Good job.

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