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TLDW: Mobile F2P Candy Crush clone gets ported to the 'curated' Switch eShop, gains a price tag and premium currency initially costed more. Just cause.

Not surprised really. It's really easy to say that a store is curated but really let's be honest. Nobody is going to play all the shit that comes at them. Developers can pay the whatever fee and put whatever they want on almost any online store so long that the minimal basics are there.

The only way to stop this nonsense is for people to stop buying it. Which for the life of me I can't understand how that hasn't happened yet. Like who the fuck is buying all these shit Unity Asset flips? Who is giving these people enough money to make even low effort flips worth it to put up there?

Oh, it's a video by Jim "Grievance Artist" Sterling.
I think charging $$$ for an F2P port is bullshit but Jesus, I'm not gonna have a 10 minute stroke over it.
PS - Suck it Nintendo.

Why do you even give a shit OP? do you really want to play Candy Crush that bad?

if so then just play it on your phone like a big boy and don't buy this one then. while you're at it you should also know that you can just bring out a board game of Monopoly out of your cupboard at home and also actually go play Soccer for reals rather than spend heaps of money on videogame versions of them.

shocking i know.

also FYI, Nintendo doesn't even make Candy Crush. a 3rd Party called King does.

Whoops someone might have said a negative Nintendo comment.

Not the point Yoshi. The point was the crack in the armor that is normally Nintendo's very high standards, and to see MT bullshit seeping into Nintendo consoles is a bad sign. So maybe you should relax.

Someone in the comment section on that video claimed that the devs(Oink games) of Mujo was formerly with the company that made Captain Rainbow (skip Ltd) which has a close relationship with Nintendo. I dunno how rigorous Nintendo is in looking at the titles that comes to their platform(s) but it would make sense that they'd be more trusting of people with whom they've had a working relationship in the past.

Some minutes of googling has not yielded me that supposed connection, although it told me that they've made some quality board games I've enjoyed in the past.

Yoshi178:
Why do you even give a shit OP? do you really want to play Candy Crush that bad?

if so then just play it on your phone like a big boy and don't buy this one then. while you're at it you should also know that you can just bring out a board game of Monopoly out of your cupboard at home and also actually go play Soccer for reals rather than spend heaps of money on videogame versions of them.

shocking i know.

also FYI, Nintendo doesn't even make Candy Crush. a 3rd Party called King does.

Do you believe a good e-shop should be curated?

People always have the option not to buy, obviously. But I'd also like my online shops to be well curated, funnily enough, so that they're not shite to use.

CritialGaming:
Whoops someone might have said a negative Nintendo comment.

Not the point Yoshi. The point was the crack in the armor that is normally Nintendo's very high standards, and to see MT bullshit seeping into Nintendo consoles is a bad sign. So maybe you should relax.

oh please. there is shovelware on every system out there. yes, even your precious PS4.

this is nothing new at all.

And don't play all high and mighty when you commented and criticized the OP first.

Silvanus:

Yoshi178:
Why do you even give a shit OP? do you really want to play Candy Crush that bad?

if so then just play it on your phone like a big boy and don't buy this one then. while you're at it you should also know that you can just bring out a board game of Monopoly out of your cupboard at home and also actually go play Soccer for reals rather than spend heaps of money on videogame versions of them.

shocking i know.

also FYI, Nintendo doesn't even make Candy Crush. a 3rd Party called King does.

Do you believe a good e-shop should be curated?

People always have the option not to buy, obviously. But I'd also like my online shops to be well curated, funnily enough, so that they're not shite to use.

i believe that a system with high sales will always come with high amounts of shovelware.

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:
Whoops someone might have said a negative Nintendo comment.

Not the point Yoshi. The point was the crack in the armor that is normally Nintendo's very high standards, and to see MT bullshit seeping into Nintendo consoles is a bad sign. So maybe you should relax.

oh please. there is shovelware on every system out there. yes, even your precious PS4.

this is nothing new at all.

So we shouldn't criticize something shitty that Nintendo does? I mean the PS4 and Steam get crap all of the time for their awful storefronts full of junk games; why shouldn't the big N? I thought Ninty was supposed to be above throwing shovelware at customers just to make a quick buck.

Avnger:

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:
Whoops someone might have said a negative Nintendo comment.

Not the point Yoshi. The point was the crack in the armor that is normally Nintendo's very high standards, and to see MT bullshit seeping into Nintendo consoles is a bad sign. So maybe you should relax.

oh please. there is shovelware on every system out there. yes, even your precious PS4.

this is nothing new at all.

So we shouldn't criticize something shitty that Nintendo does? I mean the PS4 and Steam get crap all of the time for their awful storefronts full of junk games; why shouldn't the big N? I thought Ninty was supposed to be above throwing shovelware at customers just to make a quick buck.

i'd love to see your source because literally no one has ever said that. even the Wii U which had low sales had shovelware on it.

"It's okay when Nintendo does it" The Comments Section

CritialGaming:
Whoops someone might have said a negative Nintendo comment.

Not the point Yoshi. The point was the crack in the armor that is normally Nintendo's very high standards, and to see MT bullshit seeping into Nintendo consoles is a bad sign. So maybe you should relax.

High standards? Nintendo?

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Hahahahahaha

Let's not kid ourselves; while first party Nintendo games tend to be above average, their "seal of quality" for third party titles just means the game won't brick the console. Besides, it's not like the "Big N" are strangers to microtransactions; they've been selling physical versions of it for years with their Amiibo racket.

Neverhoodian:
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LJN. Yeah I remember but the industry was different back then.

As far as I know these blatant gacha and mobile nonsense games have not made it onto the E-shop at all until now. Meaning that credit to Nintendo for keeping that shit away for a long time now.

I don't care about Nintendo, and I don't really like them as a company, but they've done a good job keeping their online store a place of fairly reputable quality unlike Steam and PSN. So it does sadden me to see shitty mobile games creep onto there and I hope they realize that it isn't the place for shit like that and they clean shop while their shop is still clean.

CritialGaming:
The only way to stop this nonsense is for people to stop buying it. Which for the life of me I can't understand how that hasn't happened yet. Like who the fuck is buying all these shit Unity Asset flips? Who is giving these people enough money to make even low effort flips worth it to put up there?

Just look at the Unity asset store, a payday loan could cover those costs, and as we are well aware by now it doesnt take much talent to turn a profit off of that.

Assuming they didnt just pirate the assets.

CritialGaming:

Neverhoodian:
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LJN. Yeah I remember but the industry was different back then.

As far as I know these blatant gacha and mobile nonsense games have not made it onto the E-shop at all until now. Meaning that credit to Nintendo for keeping that shit away for a long time now.

I don't care about Nintendo, and I don't really like them as a company, but they've done a good job keeping their online store a place of fairly reputable quality unlike Steam and PSN. So it does sadden me to see shitty mobile games creep onto there and I hope they realize that it isn't the place for shit like that and they clean shop while their shop is still clean.

Wii had high sales so it had shitloads of shovelware. PS2 had high sales, so it had shitloads of shovelware. PS4 has high sales, so it has shitloads of shovelware.

Switch is not going to be any different in that regard. sure high sales bring lots more Quality 1st Party and 3rd Party games, but it also brings lots of shovelware as well. this how it's always been with videogame consoles

Yoshi178:
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You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that you are making points that nobody is even talking about.

The problem isn't having shovelware on the system, it's having games filled with fucking Microtransactions. Nintendo hasn't yet crossed that line, though apparently this might be the start if they continue to let trash like this onto their system.

It just so happens that this game is also shovelware but if it was just shovelware i wouldn't care. It's MT filled shovelware that sucks.

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that you are making points that nobody is even talking about.

The problem isn't having shovelware on the system, it's having games filled with fucking Microtransactions. Nintendo hasn't yet crossed that line, though apparently this might be the start if they continue to let trash like this onto their system.

It just so happens that this game is also shovelware but if it was just shovelware i wouldn't care. It's MT filled shovelware that sucks.

Microtransactions will come to Nintendo systems eventually if the rest of the industry keeps up like it is.

why do you think we have DLC and season passes in Nintendo games now? why do you think Nintendo's online is becoming a paid service soon?

and explaining why things are happening isn't "coming to Nintendo's rescue" at all. you're just biased towards me and whatever it is i have to say about Nintendo no matter what it is i say. even when i don't talk about Nintendo people on this forums always go to me "B-b-but Nintendo!" even when i'm not saying something negative about other companies or games.

Yeah DLC and microtransactions and paid online etc is all shit. but gamers supported these practice's on other systems, so obviously Nintendo is going to eventually follow suit and try to make money on that stuff as well.

gamers dug their own grave, and now they can lie in it.

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that...

... he's been praising games that aren't even out yet as GOTY.

Johnny Novgorod:

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that...

... he's been praising games that aren't even out yet as GOTY.

Xenoblade 2 is out.

and praising that is no different to you Sony fanboys praising and clamouring over The Last Guardian for 9 bloody years without even knowing if it was ever even going to come out.

Johnny Novgorod:

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that...

... he's been praising games that aren't even out yet as GOTY.

Wait for it.....

Yoshi178:
Xenoblade 2 is out.

Boom goes the dynamite! :D

Xenoblade 2 is in no way even remotely close to a GOTY potential canidate. Sorry to say.

CritialGaming:

Johnny Novgorod:

CritialGaming:

You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that...

... he's been praising games that aren't even out yet as GOTY.

Wait for it.....

Yoshi178:
Xenoblade 2 is out.

Boom goes the dynamite! :D

Xenoblade 2 is in no way even remotely close to a GOTY potential canidate. Sorry to say.

Yeah, it came out today, but dude's been championing it as GOTY long before that. Blind fanboyism ad nauseam.

CritialGaming:

Johnny Novgorod:

CritialGaming:

You are so blinded by your urge to come to Nintendo's rescue that...

... he's been praising games that aren't even out yet as GOTY.

Wait for it.....

Yoshi178:
Xenoblade 2 is out.

Boom goes the dynamite! :D

Xenoblade 2 is in no way even remotely close to a GOTY potential canidate. Sorry to say.

just like there is nothing about Persona 5 that makes it deserve GOTY but you don't have a problem with your buddy Johnny praising it do you?

Johnny Novgorod:

CritialGaming:

Johnny Novgorod:

... he's been praising games that aren't even out yet as GOTY.

Wait for it.....

Yoshi178:
Xenoblade 2 is out.

Boom goes the dynamite! :D

Xenoblade 2 is in no way even remotely close to a GOTY potential canidate. Sorry to say.

Yeah, it came out today, but dude's been championing it as GOTY long before that. Blind fanboyism ad nauseam.

says the blind fanboy who's praising a 2016 game as 2017 GOTY.

Yoshi178:
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I didn't give Persona 5 GOTY. I gave it to a fantastic NEW IP called Horizon Zero: Dawn. Because a new IP that good deserves credit. What was Nintendo's new IP this year? Oh right...ARMS, good job with that one Nintendo. :-/.

Tell you what if you wanna attack opinions at least make sure you are at least checking the actual opinions.

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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I didn't give Persona 5 GOTY. I gave it to a fantastic NEW IP called Horizon Zero: Dawn. Because a new IP that good deserves credit. What was Nintendo's new IP this year? Oh right...ARMS, good job with that one Nintendo. :-/.

Tell you what if you wanna attack opinions at least make sure you are at least checking the actual opinions.

neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY at all. there are so many better games.

and get your reading glasses. i never said that you claimed Persona 5 was GOTY.

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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I didn't give Persona 5 GOTY. I gave it to a fantastic NEW IP called Horizon Zero: Dawn. Because a new IP that good deserves credit. What was Nintendo's new IP this year? Oh right...ARMS, good job with that one Nintendo. :-/.

Tell you what if you wanna attack opinions at least make sure you are at least checking the actual opinions.

neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY. they both suck.

I wonder which one of those you didnt play...

gigastar:

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

I didn't give Persona 5 GOTY. I gave it to a fantastic NEW IP called Horizon Zero: Dawn. Because a new IP that good deserves credit. What was Nintendo's new IP this year? Oh right...ARMS, good job with that one Nintendo. :-/.

Tell you what if you wanna attack opinions at least make sure you are at least checking the actual opinions.

neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY. they both suck.

I wonder which one of those you didnt play...

He hasn't even played his own GOTY pick. He's been singing the praises of Xeno 2 long before it came out, which was only today.
As for Persona 5, it got its worldwide release in early 2017.
Apparently choosing a GOTY that saw a limited local release the year before is more blatantly fanatic than choosing one that isn't even out. Which was the case with Xeno 2 up until yesterday.

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
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I didn't give Persona 5 GOTY. I gave it to a fantastic NEW IP called Horizon Zero: Dawn. Because a new IP that good deserves credit. What was Nintendo's new IP this year? Oh right...ARMS, good job with that one Nintendo. :-/.

Tell you what if you wanna attack opinions at least make sure you are at least checking the actual opinions.

neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY at all. there are so many better games.

and get your reading glasses. i never said that you claimed Persona 5 was GOTY.

*gasp* Blastphemy! How dare you say Zelda sucks! Nintendo fans everywhere shall have your fanboy card taken from you forever should word ever get out!

Johnny Novgorod:

gigastar:

Yoshi178:
neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY. they both suck.

I wonder which one of those you didnt play...

He hasn't even played his own GOTY pick. He's been singing the praises of Xeno 2 long before it came out, which was only today.
As for Persona 5, it goes it worldwide release in early 2017.
Apparently choosing a GOTY that saw a limited local release the year before is more blatantly fanatic than choosing one that isn't even out. Which was the case with Xeno 2 up until yesterday.

get your facts right. the game was released in Japan in 2016, and the PS4 isn't region locked at all. you could easily play it in 2016 if you wanted to.

and FYI i have played Xenoblade 2. i'm literally playing it right now. i've been playing it for the last 2 days.

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

I didn't give Persona 5 GOTY. I gave it to a fantastic NEW IP called Horizon Zero: Dawn. Because a new IP that good deserves credit. What was Nintendo's new IP this year? Oh right...ARMS, good job with that one Nintendo. :-/.

Tell you what if you wanna attack opinions at least make sure you are at least checking the actual opinions.

neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY at all. there are so many better games.

and get your reading glasses. i never said that you claimed Persona 5 was GOTY.

*gasp* Blastphemy! How dare you say Zelda sucks! Nintendo fans everywhere shall have your fanboy card taken from you forever should word ever get out!

there are so many better Nintendo franchise's than Zelda. Zelda is completely overrated. especially Ocarina of Time.

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
neither Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda BOTW deserve GOTY at all. there are so many better games.

and get your reading glasses. i never said that you claimed Persona 5 was GOTY.

*gasp* Blastphemy! How dare you say Zelda sucks! Nintendo fans everywhere shall have your fanboy card taken from you forever should word ever get out!

there are so many better Nintendo franchise's than Zelda. Zelda is completely overrated. especially Ocarina of Time.

You need to change your name to "Blastpheming Blastphemer".

Probably.

I don't because I hate Zelda just in general because they are mostly mediocre at best games. But you sir! You are supposed to be the all encompassing Nintendo fan!

None of this is on topic BTW so I'm gonna just stop replying from here unless the topic is referenced.

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

*gasp* Blastphemy! How dare you say Zelda sucks! Nintendo fans everywhere shall have your fanboy card taken from you forever should word ever get out!

there are so many better Nintendo franchise's than Zelda. Zelda is completely overrated. especially Ocarina of Time.

You need to change your name to "Blastpheming Blastphemer".

Probably.

I don't because I hate Zelda just in general because they are mostly mediocre at best games. But you sir! You are supposed to be the all encompassing Nintendo fan!

None of this is on topic BTW so I'm gonna just stop replying from here unless the topic is referenced.

you mean like how you criticised it and literally said the same thing i said, "stop buying it"?

it's only ok when Criticalgaming says things.

CritialGaming:

Neverhoodian:
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LJN. Yeah I remember but the industry was different back then.

As far as I know these blatant gacha and mobile nonsense games have not made it onto the E-shop at all until now. Meaning that credit to Nintendo for keeping that shit away for a long time now.

I don't care about Nintendo, and I don't really like them as a company, but they've done a good job keeping their online store a place of fairly reputable quality unlike Steam and PSN. So it does sadden me to see shitty mobile games creep onto there and I hope they realize that it isn't the place for shit like that and they clean shop while their shop is still clean.

They've had MT in a few games. One I remember is Pokemon Picross.

Also the Wii U had this:

High quality shit.

Yoshi178:
i believe that a system with high sales will always come with high amounts of shovelware.

That sounds... defeatist.

It was a should/ should not question I asked. Nintendo have the ability to provide better curation; should they?

I'm not interested in statements about the way things are, because the way things are means nothing for how they should be. I'm also not terribly interested in comparisons with Microsoft, Sony or Valve, all of whom have comparable (or worse!) curatorship failings.

We shouldn't merely accept poor practices just because they're industry-wide and ubiquitous. We should criticise them all the more.

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