Wow, Assassin's Creed Oddysey looks pretty good.

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Perhaps its because I have a fondness for Ancient Greece and Hopilte Armor and Weapons, but this game actually does not look that bad.

And from the end of the Ubi conference it looks like AC has at last just became 100% Pure Fantasy because:

Odyssey has ship combat! Cool, now I'm a little less salty about Skull and Bones. While I liked Origins, I still don't like the intense RPG-ification of the game. A headshot should be a headshot. A stealth kill should be a stealth kill. I don't want to grind for levels because the level on this particular enemy is too high for anything close to a fair fight. It isn't challenging. Just dumb. It is kinda neat to see the wanted levels again. Syndicate is my favorite of the more recent games (Post IV) and it doesn't look like that's going to change any time soon.

Captain Marvelous:
Odyssey has ship combat! Cool, now I'm a little less salty about Skull and Bones. While I liked Origins, I still don't like the intense RPG-ification of the game. A headshot should be a headshot. A stealth kill should be a stealth kill. I don't want to grind for levels because the level on this particular enemy is too high for anything close to a fair fight. It isn't challenging. Just dumb. It is kinda neat to see the wanted levels again. Syndicate is my favorite of the more recent games (Post IV) and it doesn't look like that's going to change any time soon.

I don't have much to say about the RPG element (since I haven't played origin yet, gonna start installing it soon), but I laugh pretty hard when the very next things I open after reading this comment was this:

https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2018/2018/06/11/how-assassins-creed-odyssey-is-doubling-down-on-its-rpg-elements

So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

Silentpony:
So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

If the protagonist were Odysseus wouldn't it limit the game to wandering away from civilization (ie. cities) for most of the game? Like as soon as you hit a town the "odyssey" is over. Hell, the fast travel system alone would ruin the thing.

Jason would be an easier fit but again, his whole thing is that he goes away on a quest, which doesn't mesh with AC's dealio of faffing about town. I'm sure you'll run into them or some other Greek hero along the way though.

Johnny Novgorod:

Silentpony:
So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

If the protagonist were Odysseus wouldn't it limit the game to wandering away from civilization (ie. cities) for most of the game? Like as soon as you hit a town the "odyssey" is over. Hell, the fast travel system alone would ruin the thing.

Jason would be an easier fit but again, his whole thing is that he goes away on a quest, which doesn't mesh with AC's dealio of faffing about town. I'm sure you'll run into them or some other Greek hero along the way though.

Well remember Odysseus wasn't trying to get to Greece, he was trying to get home to Ithaca. You could easily have the game being about getting back to Ithaca.

Or pull a Bethesda and play as Telemachus. You father is already home, and you're a young man determined to find his glory in the world, and your father, Odysseus, gives you his boat and bow to start the game.
And you can pimp around Greece, fighting monsters, raiding hold-out Trojan strongholds, sexing up all the ladies and guys(it is Greece after all) while doing a pseudo-Greek God story about...I dunno, Poseidon being pissed Odysseus made it back and him constantly trolling you, and you have to collect 5 Macguffins and travel to the ancient temple of Poseidon, 'at the end of the world' and offer up the items to placate the big ol' God. And maybe one of the Macguffins is in Ajax the Greater's possession, in the underworld, so you have to journey and meet with Hades and its this whole thing.
And maybe a Prince, say a son of Pisidice, daughter of King Pelias, has a grudge against anyone who sailed with Jason. And Odysseus's father, Laertes, was one of the Argonauts, so there's your antagonist trying to stop you. All set to Assassin's creed gameplay and if you have to throw in something about Spartans being proto-Templars.

I like how next Assassin's Creed seems to have more roleplay than next Fallout and Bioware game...

Silentpony:
Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

Sounds alright to me.

If that were a movie trailer it would at least have looked like a fun-if-instantly-forgettable summer popcorn movie.

It lost me the moment that guy got run right through with a trident of all things.

They leearned from the Witcher 3. It does look really good. Origins was surprisingly fun as well. I like the new rpg approach, i hope they continue making these games good.

Silentpony:
So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

Since when have you ever played as someone historic in assassin's creed? You've always been like fanfic oc interacting with real people

Looks gorgeous, but the whole time it just made me want to play more Age of Empires. I'll probably give this one a go, though, at some point when it's cheaper, even though I'm not a fan of the RPGness of it.

Also, I stopped playing Ass Creed halfway through the Ezio trilogy, so I got a question: they don't give a shit anymore about Templars, and world conspiracy theories and time travelling in the Animus and Desmond, and the apple of whatever, that's all gone right?

Wintermute:
Also, I stopped playing Ass Creed halfway through the Ezio trilogy, so I got a question: they don't give a shit anymore about Templars, and world conspiracy theories and time travelling in the Animus and Desmond, and the apple of whatever, that's all gone right?

Wellllll origin (the last one) dropped almost all of that, sadly it sounds like there quite proud that they're bringing all that back with this one.

undeadsuitor:

Silentpony:
So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

Since when have you ever played as someone historic in assassin's creed? You've always been like fanfic oc interacting with real people

Its Greek Mythology dude. Its already Fanfics. The Odyssey didn't really happen, and what evidence we have of the Trojan war is vastly different than the Iliad. Greek heroes were the comic book characters of their day; stories to inspire children and teach wholesome lessons about goat sacrifices and marrying the daughter of your adversary. But they didn't really happen. Odysseus, Hercules, Ajax, Achilles, they're myths.

I'm a little bit disappointed. The leaks said the game would focus on Greece under Roman rule which would be an extremely underussed setting but instead we get the much more mundane Spartans instead.

Silentpony:

Johnny Novgorod:

Silentpony:
So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

If the protagonist were Odysseus wouldn't it limit the game to wandering away from civilization (ie. cities) for most of the game? Like as soon as you hit a town the "odyssey" is over. Hell, the fast travel system alone would ruin the thing.

Jason would be an easier fit but again, his whole thing is that he goes away on a quest, which doesn't mesh with AC's dealio of faffing about town. I'm sure you'll run into them or some other Greek hero along the way though.

Well remember Odysseus wasn't trying to get to Greece, he was trying to get home to Ithaca. You could easily have the game being about getting back to Ithaca.

Yes but he's essentially lost for like 20 years. All he visits are a bunch of desert islands populated by lonely psychos. I guess Black Flag didn't have a central hub and kept its cities relatively small-scale but my impression is that Ody was essentially lost in the wacky part of the Mediterranean and that the perils of coming back home had less to do with the physical remoteness of Ithaca and more with randomly humoring prissy psychopaths (gods included).

I'm not saying you can't make a game out of the Odyssey but the road trip structure doesn't fit AC's school of faffing about the same two or three metropolis(es?) for 90% of the game.

Y'know, with a game with "Assassin's Creed" in the title, there doesn't seem to be much assassinating in the trailer.

Hawki:
Y'know, with a game with "Assassin's Creed" in the title, there doesn't seem to be much assassinating in the trailer.

I'm guessing dropping on someone from above or stabbing them in the back is not manly enough for Greek mythology, so you'll be stabbing them in the face instead? Poisoning seems pretty popular too, if less manly. Although neither has anything on naked oil wrestling.

After watching a video by OutsideXtra it looks like you can choose between being Kassandra and Alexios and you are the son/daughter of Leonidas. Yes that one. Apparently you have a First Civilisation spear which is what you use to assassinate people with.

It's also apparently set before Origins and you are neither an Assassin or Templar; you're just a mercenary.

Also there are conversation options now, and flirting?

Johnny Novgorod:

Silentpony:
So let me get this straight, its called Odyssey, takes place in ancient Greece, there IS magic if that glowing sword is anything to go by, and you're still not playing as Odysseus himself?! Like the fuck is that shit?! Hell I would have settled for Jason and his Argonauts, but no! Going by that trailer is just looks like a Greek skin of Black Flag

If the protagonist were Odysseus wouldn't it limit the game to wandering away from civilization (ie. cities) for most of the game? Like as soon as you hit a town the "odyssey" is over. Hell, the fast travel system alone would ruin the thing.

Jason would be an easier fit but again, his whole thing is that he goes away on a quest, which doesn't mesh with AC's dealio of faffing about town. I'm sure you'll run into them or some other Greek hero along the way though.

I believe this is set sometime during the Peloponnesian War of 431-404 BC so we're a bit late for mythical heroes though there's still a fair few historical characters that can pop up (hoping for Thucydides, personally)
What I wonder is how this is supposed to connected to the series at all, given that the game is set about 350 years before Origins. Are they going to show us the group that becomes the Order of Ancients who become the Templars?

captainsavvy:
After watching a video by OutsideXtra it looks like you can choose between being Kassandra and Alexios and you are the son/daughter of Leonidas. Yes that one. Apparently you have a First Civilisation spear which is what you use to assassinate people with.

Oh for fuck sake...

captainsavvy:
It's also apparently set before Origins and you are neither an Assassin or Templar; you're just a mercenary.

And I could bet money that the game is about the formation of the ancient order that eventually turns into Templars.

captainsavvy:

Now they should do one about 700 ways that it's not like Mass Effect.

Adam Jensen:
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Ship battles are back though. That's good, right?

In all honesty, I'm kind of looking forward to Odyssey.
Bioware seem to no longer want to scratch my single player RPG itch, and if AC wants to take over then I'm more than happy for it to.

captainsavvy:
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Also there are conversation options now, and flirting?
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Gender neutral flirting at that. Since they seem to be going by the dragon age 2 romance system where all love interests are protagonistsexual and you can hit on them no matter who you choose as a main character.

It's adorable and I love it

There's a minotaur in this game! There are no Minotaurs in ancient Greece Ubisoft! You're suppose to keep this video game historically accurate! How dare you!! (Sarcasm)

Another Assassin's Creed game, though luckily it builds upon Origins which is my favorite title in the series. I can't wait to try it out.

WolvDragon:
There's a minotaur in this game! There are no Minotaurs in ancient Greece Ubisoft! You're suppose to keep this video game historically accurate! How dare you!! (Sarcasm)

Another Assassin's Creed game, though luckily it builds upon Origins which is my favorite title in the series. I can't wait to try it out.

Can we fuck the minotaur?

undeadsuitor:

WolvDragon:
There's a minotaur in this game! There are no Minotaurs in ancient Greece Ubisoft! You're suppose to keep this video game historically accurate! How dare you!! (Sarcasm)

Another Assassin's Creed game, though luckily it builds upon Origins which is my favorite title in the series. I can't wait to try it out.

Can we fuck the minotaur?

I hope so!

WolvDragon:

undeadsuitor:

WolvDragon:
There's a minotaur in this game! There are no Minotaurs in ancient Greece Ubisoft! You're suppose to keep this video game historically accurate! How dare you!! (Sarcasm)

Another Assassin's Creed game, though luckily it builds upon Origins which is my favorite title in the series. I can't wait to try it out.

Can we fuck the minotaur?

I hope so!

I second this, hopefully the minotaur is Bi

I'm curious as to how they handle the greek Philosophers. They had Socrates as a kind of mentor figure, it seems. I hope he gets to do some Socrates things, like going into lenghty discussions about the nature of the love whilst hitting on the protagonist. (maybe increase the age of the people Socrates hits on though) Maybe they could also include Plato and Aristotle and, dare I hope, Diogenes.

Hmmm this is literally the first Assasins Creed game to catch my interest in the history of the franchise.

Admittedly that's because it looks nothing like a game in its own franchise and seems to just be aping Witcher 3 as hard as possible but since Bioware has shit the bed on single player RPG's for the moment beggars can't be choosers.

Its RPG now. thus combat will be worst with repetetive side quests and waste of time romance system.

It looks like worst AC game ever.

B-Cell:

It looks like worst AC game ever.

I could swear you said that about another AC game in the past...

The previous game was also pretty good. But that one had the benefit of having skipped a year and having a new combat system, this one just looks like more Origins.

stroopwafel:
The previous game was also pretty good. But that one had the benefit of having skipped a year and having a new combat system, this one just looks like more Origins.

And thats a bad thing why?

And to be honest I rather play a Greek Hoplite wearing their armor than whatever you played as in Origins.

Samtemdo8:

stroopwafel:
The previous game was also pretty good. But that one had the benefit of having skipped a year and having a new combat system, this one just looks like more Origins.

And thats a bad thing why?

Origins was fun but imo not fun enough to put another 30-something hours in, although now with different wallpaper. It's something they did with every AC game that preceded Origins and now Origins is the yearly template. There is absolutely zero variety or innovation in these games. Origins was atleast decent for shaking up the formula but now Ubi is back with it's usual habit of rehashing the same thing every year.

stroopwafel:

Samtemdo8:

stroopwafel:
The previous game was also pretty good. But that one had the benefit of having skipped a year and having a new combat system, this one just looks like more Origins.

And thats a bad thing why?

Origins was fun but imo not fun enough to put another 30-something hours in, although now with different wallpaper. It's something they did with every AC game that preceded Origins and now Origins is the yearly template. There is absolutely zero variety or innovation in these games. Origins was atleast decent for shaking up the formula but now Ubi is back with it's usual habit of rehashing the same thing every year.

In my case I wish for more Assassins' Creed games before the invention of Gun Powder.

I want to like it, given my love of classic history, but...Yearly Game Series With Micro-Transactions.

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