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On the Record Posts: 5708 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 | |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1859 Joined: 28 Dec 2008 | I already posted a thread. Yours is better though. Everyone at Capcom are greedy pricks. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 674 Joined: 1 Apr 2009 | I predicted that they were cutting content from the game just to sell it as DLC, and behold. That's exactly what they did. Luckily for me my brother is going to pay for it. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 392 Joined: 20 Sep 2008 | Well about SF:IV, they did not make us pay for something crucial, like versus. Capcom is dropping the ball though.... |
Press Junketeer Posts: 354 Joined: 25 Aug 2008 | Yeah, it's irritating, but what are we gonna do? I'm going to pay for it anyway, and game companies being money grubbing whores is nothing new. I've seen much worse. |
On the Record Posts: 5708 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 |
True they weren't making you pay for anything crucial, however for them to actually have the audacity to CHARGE you for additional costumes that they no doubt had lying around (something I am very much convinced is true, as they planned to release the costume DLC...a week later was it?) is just bullshit, plain and simple. |
On the Record Posts: 5708 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 |
pray tell? Not to say what you're saying isn't true, but it sounds like you have an example. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 392 Joined: 20 Sep 2008 |
I agree, I am just happy they didn't make us pay for something like versus. :O That would have started the BIGGEST shit this side of the pacific ocean! :] |
Copy Clerk Posts: 53 Joined: 11 Mar 2009 | Many people will pop in and say "If you don't like, then vote with your money"... too bad that doesn't work because there many idiots out there that can and will buy it regardless of cost because they have no real idea what the reprecussions are of their actions (i.e. buying this trivial and utterly useless money-grab). The key here is to make your voice heard because believe it or not Capcom does listen to feedback and it's better to make your voice heard and object then to remain silent and do nothing. Seth Killian, a community manager for Capcom, does listen and does make his voice well heard in his company (He is still heavily pushing Capcom to have Tatsunoko vs. Capcom released here). But you do have to realize this as much as I hate the fact that I do- Capcom is a business and they do try to get as much out a product line as possible. The difference between how they milk products and how Activision/Blizzard milks products is pretty evident here. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1859 Joined: 28 Dec 2008 |
Don't let him buy it. If we buy ANYTHING from Capcom, then they win. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 887 Joined: 17 Mar 2009 |
Buy exclusively from companies that don't do it. Capcom, EA and the like are businesses and therefore follow the money. If people just complain about DLC on the internet nothing will change. If they complain on the internet and stop buying from companies with a track record of money grubbing then eventually they'll get back in line. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2147 Joined: 24 Jan 2008 | Okay, that's micropayments taken to an absurd level. |
Beat Writer Posts: 206 Joined: 20 Jan 2009 | I'm not sure why ppl complain about things like this... its just a few dollars ... they are a business ... from how cheap it seems people are being , it seems like if they were running a company they would be doing the exact same thing anyway ... |
Press Junketeer Posts: 485 Joined: 30 Jan 2009 | It's not like this is a new idea. When RTCW came out for the Xbox they had additional map DLC that was already on the disc which was simply unlocked when you downloaded from LIVE. Capcom was probably tweaking it in the meantime from release to now. Of course, you can still give them your loud "Fuck You" by simply NOT buying into the new DLC... |
Muckraker Posts: 304 Joined: 21 Dec 2008 | This reminds me of the time Capcom went: "Oh yeah you can have some more SF4 characters if you beg for them and pay for them." |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 674 Joined: 1 Apr 2009 |
Well my brother has a "fuck it I don't care" attitude about these sort of things. A bit strange considering most of the time he hates people who give into the will of authority figures. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 106 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 | I knew this would happen!!! That's why I said DLC was a mistake...because developers would use it as a way to release half finished games for 60 dollars and make you pay another 5-30 for the rest of the game. Evidence that this game content was on the disk already helps show just how ambiguous the line is with relation to what should be included in the 60 price tag and what should be extra. Big mistake CAPCOM...and your publicist isn't selling your case well. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 106 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 |
I'm not as rich as you |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1282 Joined: 3 Jan 2009 | oooof that sucks. sry everyone >__> |
Beat Writer Posts: 206 Joined: 20 Jan 2009 |
I'm not "rich" I just have a job instead of getting a coffee and a snack use the $5 for DLC ... |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 887 Joined: 17 Mar 2009 |
Because they're charging you again for something you've already paid for. It baffles me that some people are ok with that. Would you buy a car if the salesman charged extra for seat belts and air conditioning? Or a hot dog if the bun and ketchup were and extra dollar and fifty cents? It's exactly the same. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2518 Joined: 14 Jan 2009 | Oh god, I knew it. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1928 Joined: 28 Apr 2008 |
And as a business they should realize you're going to piss off your customers when you nickle and dime them to death. If this keeps up, if the gamers don't let them KNOW we're pissed and let them KNOW if they keep doing this, we won't buy their stuff in 10 years you're going to have to buy a game then pay another 400 dollars to unlock content that's on the damn disk. They don't sell cars with CD players in them, but you then have to pay another 100 dollars to "unlock" the CD player. DLC is one of the worst things to happen to gaming. I remember when games were about fun! When the people making them wanted to create something that was just a blast and you could kill time with. Now, what are games? Money, Business, Reality and Politics. Boring, Boring, Boring and bullshit. The suits got too deep into the gaming scene and now everything is just a figure, it's how they can squeeze the most money out of it from the customers they see as mindless, brain-dead sheep. It's about how far they can push their authority with things like securom install limits. It's about how they can use DLC to discourage the sale and resale of used games. It's about hiding behind ridiculous excuses and try to make THEM seem like the victims while they rape and pillage our wallets so we can get the "red shirt" for "fighter guy 3" and unlock maps that came on the damn disc of the game. It's about juicing your customers and pushing all limits of what the consumer base sees as acceptable so they can make another couple of billion dollars in revenue. We shouldn't put up with this shit any longer! Don't buy stupid DLC! Don't support right's removing DRM! If any company partakes in these actions, or greedy business tactics, don't support them either! Buy none of their products, and make yourselves heard! |
Paperboy Posts: 17 Joined: 16 Mar 2009 | Sure. People could decide to not buy it in order to get Capcom to "listen." But come on people, a few hundred people not buying it compared to the few thousand that have or are going to. I fail to see it making that big of a difference, although I do agree that is wrong to get people to pay for something that is already on the disc. I personally, wasn't going to buy it anyway because I didn't think it would fit with Resident Evil but that's a different story entirely. |
Muckraker Posts: 280 Joined: 9 Feb 2009 | It doesn't surprise me that Capcom would do this. They pulled the same crap with the downloaded content in Mega Man 9. I miss the days when you could actually unlock things by playing the game instead of buying them. |
Muckraker Posts: 226 Joined: 3 Dec 2008 |
Well, in my view after you have bought a game you should be finished paying for it. Ever since I started playing video games it has always been this way. Now lately that has been changing... and since not everyone can afford a $60 + the extra $5-10 company tax on top for a feature that is on the disc and by all rights should already be that person's property since they own the game, maybe you could show a little respect for those who can't afford it? Thankfully versus on a game like RE5 doesn't seem to have much value, might as well be playing a FPS instead. If perhaps a company did something stupid like making multiplayer modes available only after paying a fee, then I would probably boycott that company for the rest of my life... but that's just how I feel. Maybe we should all take CAPCOM's side because they are suffering the most in today's economic crisis. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1928 Joined: 28 Apr 2008 |
It's this attitude which allows them to get away with it! "Oh it won't make a difference, I'll just not bother." You are correct, though. Not buying their products is not enough, you must let them know you aren't buying them and why. I've dealt with business folk before, they are quite dense and can't figure anything out for themselves. You need to directly tell them what is happening and why. |
Beat Writer Posts: 211 Joined: 26 Mar 2008 | Stop the incessant bitching!! If you don't want it, don't buy it! It is as simple as that. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 648 Joined: 2 Mar 2009 |
The costumes were available since before the game was released. All you need to do is check some of the clips released to the press that shows all the new costumes (gametrailers have some), if you pay attention to the date the videos were uploaded, they were released before the game it shelves. You want to know how to stop this? Don't pay for it. In a capitalist market, not buying something is the only real way to punish a provider... If you pay for it, you had it coming. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3593 Joined: 3 Aug 2008 | My boyfriend downloaded it, it's only £3.99. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 530 Joined: 17 Aug 2008 | hope the complaining people don't play anything like WoW because there's nothing worse then a complaining hypocrit. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 74 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 |
And why does that make anyone a Hypocrite? Last I checked RE5 wasn't being played across thousands of servers with millions of players on at a single time. And again if you think about it they release content to the player all the time without having to pay for an additional fee. You can't lump an MMO in with a single player experience. If you bring cars into it as an example it'd basically be like having a pass for the bus that you have to pay for continually instead of having a car that you have to pay additional fees after buying it to unlock features of the car already installed. Such as the radio or being able to lower the windows. Hypocrisy has nothing to do with it. It's simply bad business practice when you have enough people calling them out on it. You have people like the Original poster trying to spread the word so more people understand that this kind of thing should not be tolerated. If enough people spread it across the internet enough people who truly care might make a difference. |
On the Record Posts: 5708 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 |
And when you say available, you mean developed yes? Because as I said before they were released later, in five separate packs. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 106 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 |
We should never find ourselves becoming complacent about giving these guys our hard earned dollars for content that should have been included on the disk. I will wait for the game to become bargain priced (if I get it at all) and will use the 65 dollars to feed my child. That five dollars is money that can be used to buy milk or clothes that in this economy are much more the priority than an extra game feature that should have been included with the game. I would hate to think that the game companies see us as a consumer base that doesn't understand the value of a dollar. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 601 Joined: 29 Oct 2008 | Don't worry, some clever hack will find a way. (crosses fingers) |
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Hello again people. I did a search, but came up with nothing similar.
Now, I was scouting IGN, and noticed this piece of news http://uk.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/970/970396p1.html
And quite frankly, I was disgusted. I knew for a fact that the DLC could have been added to the disc, but what's worse is the fact that the bloody content IS on the disc.
This just proves to me that Capcom is on a money grubbing downward spiral, and their excuse was just laughable.
Also we knew this would be a downside to downloadable content, but now it's being exploited to the fullest. It began (from them) with Street Fighter IV, and now we have this.