Pickel Surprise: Also, to all the Fallout 3 haters: If you prefer Fallout 1 & 2, that's great. If those are your favorite games, then I'm happy for you. If you truly believe that Fallout 3 is the worst game ever made, that's fine. Just don't go running around spewing that anyone who enjoys Fallout 3 is somehow a blight on the face of the earth.
I actually haven't seen any Fallout 3 hate in this thread, only love for Fallout 1 and 2. I myself didn't play Fallout 3 because I don't have a PC that can handle it.
Exictednuke: better aiming and cross hairs when not using vats, better custom weapons system preferably a system involving salvaging gun parts and then working to make new weapons. visible weapons damage that make sense for example a broken barrel would result in poor accuracy, a busted stock means more recoil. a realistic a person (EX. your character can die of hunger), the ability to Melle with your gun (which could potentially result in damage to your weapon), and a much improved karma system
I'd say no to the hunger thing, considering how fast time goes in that game, as well as the fact that if you have enough food to last the amount of time, you'll be doing a quest you can't fast-travel from (E.G. - Broken Steel DLC quests are very lengthy, and don't let you fast travel, because they all take place in a small area seperated from the rest of the map)and most likely end up overencumbered, or be stuck leaving some heavy, yet phat loots.
quack35: [quote="Sindre1" post="9.118291.2262103"]London with a 1920s feel. I want to know what happened in Europe.
But Fallout is about America.
Oh yeah you're right in the Fallout games the rest of the world just suddenly vanished and you just had America floating around in space, i think London would be great because there are loads of landmarks and it would be the next target after the USA, the problem with setting it in the 20's would be that nukes hadn't been invented.
Well, what created the American Fallout world is the war between China and America. Britian wasn't involved if I'm correct.
lasherman: i heard they're making a new one called fallout: new vegas, so im assuming they're planning on making it take place in las vegas
o rly! sorry couldn't resist anyway why do all fallout fanboys hate fallout 3 and bethesda? fallout 3 was a really good game and it captured the feel of post nuclear apocalyptic wasteland really well. anyway new vegas isn't being made by bethesda
Because they took the game and made it into something it's not, it's an FPS. It didn't capture the feel at all, they have robots, they have a reliable source of food enough to feed cities without any visible agriculture or food sources.
The choice system is very simple, the customisability is empty, even with all the sliding customisation bars, you can't make a mentally retarded brute who can't speak by giving him 1 intelligence, and you can't give your character a back-story seeing as you play it out in that dull mess known as childhood.
If they'd renamed it and every other thing in the game and called it "Futureblivion" then I would accept it as a good game, but it doesn't deserve to be a part of the Fallout franchise, or it could have at least not put the number on the end. that number means it's officially a direct sequel, rather than a spin-off like Tactics.
I understand that Bethesda was trying to appeal to a mass audience, and a lot of people enjoy it, but by doing that they took out a lot of the depth and complexity that Fallout was MEANT to be, and giving us a shallow FPS with the illusion of choice.
Fallout 4? Bring back Chris Avellone and make it all good again.
/End Fanboy Rant
(Oh, and flame away, I realize that this was a biased and fan-boyish comment, but dammit, I think I'm entitled to it after playing through that game thoroughly just so nobody can say I didn't give it a chance)
IMO: What Bethesda failed at doing was realizing that Fallout 3 was not in the TES series. Looking back at Oblivion and Morrowind, I can honestly say I believe them to be two of the games with the best in-game lore ever; the gameplay was fitted to them. But Fallout 3 had the same TES-ish gameplay brought to an environment in which it had no place in. FPS games should feel dynamic, whereas Fallout 3 feels very linear.
I'd like to see what the world is like fifty years after the original fallout. It'd be interesting to see how humanity was faring in the aftermath of a nuclear war.
Chipperz: I wouldn't mind seeing it set in a completely urban landscape like New York City, or maybe even somewhere that isn't America? The ruins of Tokyo or Paris would be cool to explore...
It also wouldn't make sense since only America and China got nuked.
Chipperz: I wouldn't mind seeing it set in a completely urban landscape like New York City, or maybe even somewhere that isn't America? The ruins of Tokyo or Paris would be cool to explore...
It also wouldn't make sense since only America and China got nuked.
Yes, because the rest of the world went on to live perfectly normal existances, free of ANY effects of a nuclear war. The buildings would be more intact, but nuclear winter would have screwed with the ecosystems and I'm fairly certain that most of the planet had picked a side by the point the war started, which would have plunged the rest of the planet into world war 3 which, if America is anything to go by, has left the planet unable to make long range radio transmissions...
im sorry but it was gay how you had to have actions points to fight, and i have Fallout 1,2,3 and tactics, so i have sampled nearly all of them, and my favourite is the third, but 1 & 2 were great compared to other games in it's time. My father is a huge fallout fan, and his favourite is the third
lasherman: i heard they're making a new one called fallout: new vegas, so im assuming they're planning on making it take place in las vegas
o rly! sorry couldn't resist anyway why do all fallout fanboys hate fallout 3 and bethesda? fallout 3 was a really good game and it captured the feel of post nuclear apocalyptic wasteland really well. anyway new vegas isn't being made by bethesda
Because they took the game and made it into something it's not, it's an FPS. It didn't capture the feel at all, they have robots, they have a reliable source of food enough to feed cities without any visible agriculture or food sources.
The choice system is very simple, the customisability is empty, even with all the sliding customisation bars, you can't make a mentally retarded brute who can't speak by giving him 1 intelligence, and you can't give your character a back-story seeing as you play it out in that dull mess known as childhood.
If they'd renamed it and every other thing in the game and called it "Futureblivion" then I would accept it as a good game, but it doesn't deserve to be a part of the Fallout franchise, or it could have at least not put the number on the end. that number means it's officially a direct sequel, rather than a spin-off like Tactics.
I understand that Bethesda was trying to appeal to a mass audience, and a lot of people enjoy it, but by doing that they took out a lot of the depth and complexity that Fallout was MEANT to be, and giving us a shallow FPS with the illusion of choice.
Fallout 4? Bring back Chris Avellone and make it all good again.
/End Fanboy Rant
(Oh, and flame away, I realize that this was a biased and fan-boyish comment, but dammit, I think I'm entitled to it after playing through that game thoroughly just so nobody can say I didn't give it a chance)
their can be a truce between FPS and RPG just look at deus ex the greatest game ever
oh wait I got ann idea, no karma system. they are never done well. so just do a deus ex-stlye choice system where some people will hate you for doing this while others hate you for doing that
oh yeah and bring back the porn star and hooker jobs I created a female charachter for that and black widow only
lasherman: i heard they're making a new one called fallout: new vegas, so im assuming they're planning on making it take place in las vegas
Was Bethesda going to make that, though? Seems to me I heard that the original Fallout company (whose name I have shamelessly forgotten now) was doing FO:NV.
Black Isle or interplay, One of those. I can't remember who.
It's likely to be running on Bethesda's engine, since the official line is that 'It is going to be the same style of game as Fallout 3'. Assuming they actually bother to QA test it, I'm really looking forward to it.
dontworryaboutit: My guess is it'll take place in a post-nuclear war environment.
I don't know, do you think they'd be able to fit enough brown in?
Fallout 4: Better combat mechanisms (perhaps allow skilled players the ability to actually combat the enemies without using cheap hill tactics) Better variety in dungeons Better story, longer story Keep Liam Neeson.
DA GOD A CRUNK: Not saying its coming out, just think about it though it takes place in new york this time. come up with your own ideas for the game, anything just post it in a comment.
But then it would be exactly the same! Dirt covered landscape, swearing a bunch, mutants...
I liked all three. And I can't kill the comparison between John Henry Eden and "The Master". The only one part of the games I didn't like is that they had switched from a "percent" skill format to a numbered format. It confused me.
Also the ending to Fallout 3 is crap and there is absolutely no reason why you can't send in Charon or Fawkes to put in the code. They're immune to radiation, but apparently they wanted self-sacrifice because in Broken Steel the ending scene is where you are apparently evil because you sent in someone immune to radiation poisoning.
But Fallout 2 is the worst of the series because of all of the pop culture references, they ruined immersion for me.
lasherman: i heard they're making a new one called fallout: new vegas, so im assuming they're planning on making it take place in las vegas
o rly! sorry couldn't resist anyway why do all fallout fanboys hate fallout 3 and bethesda? fallout 3 was a really good game and it captured the feel of post nuclear apocalyptic wasteland really well. anyway new vegas isn't being made by bethesda
Because they took the game and made it into something it's not, it's an FPS. It didn't capture the feel at all, they have robots, they have a reliable source of food enough to feed cities without any visible agriculture or food sources.
The choice system is very simple, the customisability is empty, even with all the sliding customisation bars, you can't make a mentally retarded brute who can't speak by giving him 1 intelligence, and you can't give your character a back-story seeing as you play it out in that dull mess known as childhood.
If they'd renamed it and every other thing in the game and called it "Futureblivion" then I would accept it as a good game, but it doesn't deserve to be a part of the Fallout franchise, or it could have at least not put the number on the end. that number means it's officially a direct sequel, rather than a spin-off like Tactics.
I understand that Bethesda was trying to appeal to a mass audience, and a lot of people enjoy it, but by doing that they took out a lot of the depth and complexity that Fallout was MEANT to be, and giving us a shallow FPS with the illusion of choice.
Fallout 4? Bring back Chris Avellone and make it all good again.
/End Fanboy Rant
(Oh, and flame away, I realize that this was a biased and fan-boyish comment, but dammit, I think I'm entitled to it after playing through that game thoroughly just so nobody can say I didn't give it a chance)
their can be a truce between FPS and RPG just look at deus ex the greatest game ever
There can be a truce yes, but it wasn't very good in Fallout 3. The FPS and RPG elements kind of clunked together roughly, like when you try to put the square block into the circle shaped hole.
And from the comment after the one above, I can tell you have a great respect for women there, bud.
It should take place in Glasgow cause Doomsday was pretty good, I miss being able to shoot people in the balls & Headbutt would make a wicked perk. Also Govan at night makes Metro DC look like fairyland :D
Paisley as DLC, You have rednecks in Point Lookout right :D
DA GOD A CRUNK: Not saying its coming out, just think about it though it takes place in new york this time. come up with your own ideas for the game, anything just post it in a comment.
Don't have to imagine Fallout 4. Fallout: New Vegas will be out next year made by Obsidian Entertainment. Hopefully it will be akin to something like Knights of the Old Republic. That would be awesome.
WrongSprite: It's been announced, I don't need to imagine it.
That's not a sequel. You might want to read up on New Vegas.
Sindre1: London with a 1920s feel. I want to know what happened in Europe.
That would be awesome, as long as it wasn't in London-The Underground would be even more confusing and annoying than the Metro, though it would still be cool.
I'd like to see a Fallout 3-esque revisit to the West coast, see what has changed. Either that, or Canada.
DA GOD A CRUNK: Not saying its coming out, just think about it though it takes place in new york this time. come up with your own ideas for the game, anything just post it in a comment.
Don't have to imagine Fallout 4. Fallout: New Vegas will be out next year made by Obsidian Entertainment. Hopefully it will be akin to something like Knights of the Old Republic. That would be awesome.
WrongSprite: It's been announced, I don't need to imagine it.
That's not a sequel. You might want to read up on New Vegas.
Sindre1: London with a 1920s feel. I want to know what happened in Europe.
That would be awesome, as long as it wasn't in London-The Underground would be even more confusing and annoying than the Metro, though it would still be cool.
I'd like to see a Fallout 3-esque revisit to the West coast, see what has changed. Either that, or Canada.
It's a Fallout game. It is after Fallout 3. It is therefore a sequel.
It's a Fallout game. It is after Fallout 3. It is therefore a sequel.
Yeah, because FarCry 2 is really a sequel to FarCry.
Oh wait.
Also:
The title is "just Fallout: New Vegas. No number. It's not a sequel." For those worried this non-numbered expansion would be a party game, fret not. It's "definitely an RPG," according to Bethesda VP Pete Hines. Obsidian Entertainment was founded by Fergus Urquhart who, along with a few other Obsidian guys, worked on the original Fallout. The team was approached by Bethesda and "jumped at the chance" to work on this new title.
Just like Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel wasn't a sequel to the Fallout series. It's a spin-off.
No Europe. The point with Fallout is that it's a parody of the American 'Golden Age' in a depressing post apocalyptic world. That contrast is the heart of the whole thing.
Also, take it back to the American West. How the FEV got to Washington is completely beyond me.
Sindre1: London with a 1920s feel. I want to know what happened in Europe.
That would be awesome, as long as it wasn't in London-The Underground would be even more confusing and annoying than the Metro, though it would still be cool.
I'd like to see a Fallout 3-esque revisit to the West coast, see what has changed. Either that, or Canada.
Those are also good ideas. Las Vegas lies near the West coast, so if New Vegas is in the same area you will soon get some answers about that.
Fallout: China is also an obvius idea.
Cajt: Screw New York! I want to be chased by giant mutated reindeer's and moose's in Sweden, Norway and Finland!
THIS! It could be set in Lapland, in the area that borders Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia. It could be inhabited by Sami tribes, both friendly and hostile. Sounds like it could be a good DLC for Fallout: London. Don't think it would have potential to be a standalone game, sadly :/
scnj: No Europe. The point with Fallout is that it's a parody of the American 'Golden Age' in a depressing post apocalyptic world. That contrast is the heart of the whole thing.
Also, take it back to the American West. How the FEV got to Washington is completely beyond me.
I think Maybe Bethesda should stick with the east Coast and use it for their Fallout games. Also, I do agree that Fallout should stay in America.
I think Bethesda is letting the original company make the next one.