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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3302 Joined: 10 Feb 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1316 Joined: 14 Apr 2009     | HERESY!! |
Muckraker  Posts: 233 Joined: 14 Jul 2008     | alright, my turn to address even more! 1) "her minigun looks just like the heavy's, right down to the gas canister!" No. Thats what a minigun looks like, right down to the "gas canister" which actually the ammo storage. Last time I checked, valve does not own the IP of minigun. 2)again, the music. It is making fun of the 60's spy movies, like Bond or others. Valve does not own the rights to lampooning that. 3)Aluminum baseball bats. Seriously? Your getting onto their case because they use a plain, aluminum bat? Lets go sue the minor league baseball teams too because, hell, Valve put a common piece of equipment into a game! 4)Blood splatter. Your caring about how blood splatters? Ever think that when shot in the head with a rifle, your blood might come out like paint?(it does, FYI) TF2 had a good blood animation set, realistic and all, so again, if somebody wants a cartoony yet realistic game, they have few options. 5) the powerup. so valve also owns the rights to powerups that make you glowingly invincible? Ok, lets sue Mario, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, and just about any other game. None of those things above are Valve's originally. They used them, the game became popular, and all of a sudden they have a monopoly on basic gaming things? Does infinity ward have a monopoly on WWII now? Nintendo on platformers? Atari on tennis games? It doesn't seem realistic to try and yell at a company that makes a game that has basic things that are mandatory for a genre like it. Stop fanboying and judge the game after you play it on its own merits, not on how similar it is to another great game. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 591 Joined: 6 Jun 2009     | You know what would work for this game, is if its third person view was actually if the char is zoomed in closer towards the left side. It looks like its blocking the actual firing view especially for melee. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 408 Joined: 7 Sep 2008   | HOLY SHITˇˇˇˇ it's like TF2 but with Anime chicks and badly made robotsˇˇˇ it's like a dream come true.... |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 637 Joined: 2 Mar 2009   | So this is what you get when you combine Team Fortress with Army Men with Ani-Cute. I'd totally play that.
http://t03nemesis.deviantart.com/art/Team-Fortress-Fan-Girls-111649757 Non-Japanime style. I also agree that the 'classes' don't appear to be set in stone, and that there are more then two factions. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 621 Joined: 19 Jan 2009     | So it's got cartoony graphics and it's an online team FPS. Surely, noone else has done any of this before Valve did, so it's a TF2 rip off. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1436 Joined: 19 Jun 2008   | It's a frakking rip off of a game mod turned into commercial release. If console fanboys and generation y / dot com game purchasers weren't so frakking retarded, this kind of topic and "game" wouldn't rate a mention on a 3rd rate console blog, let alone a semi-respectable gamers' forum. Yeah, I'm pointing the finger at you, under 25's, for turning gaming from an intelligencia hobby to mass-retard entertainment platform. Fuck you, and the console you rode in on :) /rant |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 587 Joined: 16 Jan 2008  |
I'm sorry Grandpa, you seemed to have misplaced your dentures, I can't understand a dang thing you're saying! Now if you don't mind, me and the rest of the under 25's are going to go eat raw rotting meat and bang our heads against walls while shrieking "DURRRRRRRRRRR". Incidentally, this game is impossible to research, have you every tried to find a game called Have? It ain't easy. If anyone could get me like an article or even a mention other than this thread it'd be great. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1911 Joined: 24 Jan 2008   | This is some bullshit. How much does ANYONE want to bet that it's not even their own engine? Just a modified version of Source? |
Anonymous Source Posts: 6 Joined: 14 Apr 2009    | Hey guys, the demoman has one eye! IT'S SO ORIGINAL |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 83 Joined: 25 Apr 2009  | This could very well be their own ideas... I guess. But honestly, would anyone have batted an eye in the slightest if they were skinned like the TF2 characters? The soldier acts the same, the demoman is amazingly similar, the sniper is the same(well its a sniper), their scout wields an aluminum bat and double jumps with the tf2 animation. It might not be a rip off, oh who am I kidding, you can't come that close to TF2 without knowing what you're doing. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3580 Joined: 8 Feb 2009    | eww its all animey. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1436 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 |
Can't say I'm surprised, given that your generation has the literacy abilities of a 10 month old cowpat. Here's a less subtle hint for you. You, your generation, and everyone born since, around, and after you is part of the problem, not the solution to the shite that has become gaming. Congratulations. Have a potato chip, and revel in the fact you've helped turn games and gaming from a hobby of the intelligent to a pastime of the bored, retarded and mediocre. Well done. |
Muckraker Posts: 300 Joined: 6 May 2009   | It's better to steal something good than to create something crappy...right? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1487 Joined: 29 Mar 2009    | Japanese TF2 with no personalities. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1618 Joined: 15 Apr 2009   | Even though it's a blasted rip-off...It looks fun...What? |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 437 Joined: 8 Sep 2008   |
Not all of us under 25's are how you think. Some of us can actually tell the difference between "their" and "they're" and have an IQ over 50. Stereotyping young people as neanderthalic retards is just as much part of the problem, since that is what the developers who make "the shite that has become gaming" thing when they make these games. Have you ever thought that some of us are intelligent and we cringe at what others in our generation do? Stop being bigoted towards people younger than you and realize that idiocy and intelligence are spread evenly over the age spectrum, and not clustered at the bottom like you seem to believe. |
Muckraker  Posts: 253 Joined: 1 Jul 2009  |
Pretty much everything I wanted to say. Kudos. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1397 Joined: 13 Jun 2009  | The Sniper in this one lacks all style!! And the heavy is lacking in the russian accent. Vere is her sandvich?!! D: This is a travesty!! |
Press Junketeer Posts: 437 Joined: 8 Sep 2008 |
Thanks. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1741 Joined: 1 Oct 2008  |
Map reminds me of both Toy Fort Elite on TF2 and the last mission for Army Men 2. And the sniper does not look totally over powered /sarcasm |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1436 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 |
Yeah yeah, I know I'm generalising, but please, by all means, show me where gaming has has advanced from the hobby of the intelligencia, to the entertainment of the mass idiocy to what, exactly? When I was growing up (and admittedly, home computers were of the AT or XT variety, and you could choose between a green and black, white and black or orange and black 10" monitor), games were made by the ultra-intelligent for the ultra-intelligent (hence games like paranoia, zork, etc). Over the last 20+ years, I've been witness to gaming becoming less the realm of the intelligent nerd and morphing into the pass-time of the retard stereotypical american fratboy. The games of today require nowhere near the intelligence, or even the problem solving or logic abilities of the games I grew up with, which where, to be honest, the origins of gaming as it is today. When I look at the latest retread of an fps game, I see nothing but a cheesy remake of something I've already played, just less original and of far less quality. All that said, show me how Fallout 3, despite (and honestly in spite of) its graphical updates, is better than the old SSI game Pools of Radience (which, in my less than humble opinion, had a far superior story and gameplay). Please, I beg you, show me a game released in the last 10 years that had a better plot or execution than SSI's classic. |
Muckraker Posts: 253 Joined: 1 Jul 2009 |
Silent Hill 2. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1436 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 |
You've been smoking crack, right? |
On the Record  Posts: 5164 Joined: 21 Aug 2008    |
The problem with that is the industries inability to maintain itself on such insider qualities. They keep that up, and they alienate a potential market that can keep them alive. With the advent of an increase in processing power and graphical fidelity, it's becoming more and more risky to create something highly intellectual and original, for the fear that it won't sell at least half a million copies (which at the level of graphical fidelity nowadays, breaks even). The problem wasn't really that this new wave of frat-boy esque fps games was there, but really that it pushed the titles that you are talking about from the mainstay of the industry to a niche, which is a shame. However now you must understand that you aren't the main point of focus any more. That being said, check this out. P.S. Your original rant put a smile on my face. Just thought I'd like you to know that. ;¬) EDIT:
So did that. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 8 Joined: 8 Apr 2009  | O_O I think the demo-bot is more than enough proof, personally, but whatever. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2141 Joined: 14 Apr 2009   | This has to be a joke, right? I mean, the looks are almost identical. The health-jar, the bat, the grenade, the mini-gun, the demo-man, the soldier, the sniperscope. This is fail at an epic level. Although it looks nice, but TF2 looks niver. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1436 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | ChromeAlchemist: I really am an old gamer doomed to calcify in the mire of modern day gaming, aren't I? I yearn for the complexity and story of an old rpg in a day and age when insta-gibs and the amount of polygons you can put into an exploding body are the desires of the majorty. Is this all I have to look forward to as I become an aging geek? Longings for genres and complexity long past in a day of instant gore and gratfication? Sigh. Seems like I'm off to rebuild my 386SX and play rpgs that don't involve "click to win". Getting old sucks. At least it will happen to all of you 12-16 year olds who think you're at the fore-front of gaming. Hopefully if I make it to 70 I'll get to laugh at you up&coming 25-30somethings who complain about the current crop of games vs. the halos and retardias of today. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 159 Joined: 8 Jan 2009 | This is pretty blatant, but Valve won't be worrying, at least they shouldn't be. Toy soldiers and cosplaying Barbie dolls aren't a threat to one of the greatest online games around. Chaingun, sniper rifle, grenade launcher all are almost identical, and the toy rocket launcher guy looks like the soldier, as well as the demoman (complete with eye patch!). |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2885 Joined: 11 Mar 2009  | Well. That was... a game. Alright, yes that game has very many similarities to Team Fortress 2. I think that if they focus on some interesting level design they could make it interesting. My beloved Toy Commander managed to make very interesting and varied scenarios within a household, so there is no reason for these developers to do the same. What I'm saying is to give it some time. It could set itself apart. Right now, however, it looks like a serious rip-off. |
Paperboy  Posts: 31 Joined: 8 Jul 2008   | It may be a rip off from TF2, but I'd still play it. |
On the Record Posts: 5164 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 |
As one of the knuckle-Dragging under 25s you were talking about (21), it's with a heavy heart that I have to say, yes it seems you are. But as you have said, it will happen to all of us. Some of us grow out of gaming not because of age, but because we've seen it all. Gaming complexity has really gone on a downward spiral, the only real upside to gaming generations pushing forward is the way that games can be played. I almost blame the jump in graphics and only that. I guess it's up to you whether you want to grit your teeth and embrace a much simpler selection of games with a possibly new and inventive way to play them (if you get the implication), or feed off the scraps of originality and fresh game concepts while the populace grows blissfully fat and ignorant over the next fairly similar summer blockbuster hit. I don't know, you've shown me that I won't be part of the industries target audience forever, but I'm prepared to enjoy what they throw at me for as long as I can, and take solace in the fact that I won't wake up one day and find all the games to be garbage, but that I may be slowly phased out. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1086 Joined: 3 Apr 2008   | It's funny, if you guys really hate it, then why are you drawing more attention to it? Seems kinda counter-productive to me. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2867 Joined: 25 Aug 2008 | It seems they may have "borrowed" a few ideas but the game looks different enough to not be a blatant copy, third person, tiny toys and what looks like 3 factions is quite dissimilar to TF2. |
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TF2 meets Toy Story meets Japan. Meeh, some things are obviously ripped off, but this game looks like it has enough of it's own. Heck it's 3th person just to start with.