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Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 11 Jan 2009

I wasn't going to buy the game anyway, at least not at $60. I'll wait 6 months.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Joined: 4 Oct 2007

Oh yes, be quiet because Infinity Ward doesn't "owe" you anything.
And likewise, we don't "owe" them a thing ourselves. We exchanged $50 of our money for a game that we paid for. Now, I don't owe that exchange to them at all, and I want them to know my reasons for keeping it.

Hey everyone, let's hate on people for NOT WANTING TO PLAY A VIDEO GAME. God they must be such PASTY NERDS.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1017
Joined: 6 Mar 2009

I wasn't going to buy it anyway, so I guess I'm in. It's not like me not buying the game will actually make a difference though. I just find the Call of Duty games too dramatic and unrealistic for my liking.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 485
Joined: 24 Feb 2009

I don't play games online so I don't care in the slightest about a lack of dedicated servers... As for no mods... well lets be fair here, its rare a game is modifiable these days. As much as we may say mods are a big one-up for PC gaming I can count on one hand the games I know from this generation that actually have a decent modding fan-base.

So it doesn't phase me, I'm still buying this game. Loved the first Modern Warfare's single player campaign even though it was short. Hopefully this one will be longer.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1750
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

I wonder if appliance aficionados ever boycott Proctor-Silex for releasing toasters that don't meet their exact specifications.

"No bagel slot? How dare they? I'm a consumer, they owe me everything! I'm going to go complain on the Internet until I get my way!"

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1082
Joined: 20 Jan 2009

hes right any game (GEARS OF WAR IM LOOKING AT YOU) that has dedicated servers and then goes to stupid matchmaking (DAMN YOU EPIC) in the sequel has never been a good idea and never will be a good idea

i dont get why gears 2 did have this shitty matchmaking anyway theres no reason to not have dedicated servers

Beat Writer
Posts: 202
Joined: 10 Dec 2008

Has anyone took lessons from L4D2 Boycott group? Unless you have people you know who work under there, it's hopeless.

Muckraker
Posts: 347
Joined: 19 Aug 2009

Glefistus:
Way ahead of you, I was already not going to buy it when I saw the gameplay footage.

Same with me. Better FPS games coming out in a short space of time. Bioshock 2 and Borderlands

Paperboy
Posts: 28
Joined: 20 May 2009

boohoo no mods... you know what? thats fine. i've never put mods on the other COD games i've gotten, and i play them on a regular basis. no mods is not worth a boycott of a good game.

Pulitzer Laureate
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sov68n:
I hate having to sift through server lists when I just wanna put bullets into people in MW1. Call me a simpleton but I think the idea of letting an IW server give me an optimum match is pretty damn appealing.

I agree with this, however the thing is that matchmaking systems generally only work for small scale matches, such as in L4D. In MW2, there'll be up to... Is it 64 people? Yeah I think so... 64 people in a match maximum, matchmaking will not work for that at all.

rayen020:
boohoo no mods... you know what? thats fine. i've never put mods on the other COD games i've gotten, and i play them on a regular basis. no mods is not worth a boycott of a good game.

That isn't the only reason people are pissed off, perhaps actually read the post in full? I can't be arsed explaining it to you, read the original post; it's all there

Beat Writer
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Joined: 27 Jun 2009

[V.2]:

Not to mention, there is no reason for not having dedicated servers, absolutely none at all. They've always had them in the past, it makes no sense to stop having them now, especially since there are more people than ever interested in Call of Duty and its multiplayer. If they axed the servers for more money that just goes to show how much they no longer care about the gamer.

umm here's a reason...it's their company their game. They can do what they want. If it leads to less sells then they will have to deal with it.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2044
Joined: 5 Jun 2008

For Fuck Sake! They shouldn't even be allowed to release a game with out all the best features, especially by todays standards! This is as bad as the SC2 battle net thing, they really don't give a shit anymore, do they?

I also hate it when people say "if you don't like it, don't buy it", it just goes to show you don't gve a shit what anyone else thinks! GOD! What the hell is wrong with people these days?!!

Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 659
Joined: 22 May 2009

I hate to say this but boycotting is a bit fruitless. IW knows where the money lies and that money generally tends to lie with the console owning teens. The PC version is an after-thought.

It is rather lame how no mods and no dedicated servers totally bring down the PC version but boycotting isn't going to make much of a difference. If anything IW will end up dropping Modern Warfare games from the PC all together.

Besides, it's a good chance for you PC elitists to see what us console owners have to deal while you keep bragging about all your mods and awesome servers and such. A taste of your own medicine shall we say.

Infamous Scribbler
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rayen020:
boohoo no mods... you know what? thats fine. i've never put mods on the other COD games i've gotten, and i play them on a regular basis. no mods is not worth a boycott of a good game.

Hmm lets see, admin mods, gametype mods, fun mods (go put party hats on your 360 version of tf2)

Gone Gonzo
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Wasn't gonna buy it anyway...

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 22 Mar 2008

I don't really understand...

No dedicated servers? How do they plan to support multiplayer at all?

No mods? How is this a bad thing? In the history of the Call of Duty franchise mods were among the most annoying things I can remember.

Also, OP thinks he's V. lawl.

Copy Clerk
Posts: 84
Joined: 5 Apr 2009

I'm joining your noble cause - I won't buy that game. Never wanted to anyway :)

Paperboy
Posts: 35
Joined: 10 Sep 2009

No dedicated servers? BURN THE WORLD!!!!

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 27 Apr 2009

Space Spoons:
I wonder if appliance aficionados ever boycott Proctor-Silex for releasing toasters that don't meet their exact specifications.

"No bagel slot? How dare they? I'm a consumer, they owe me everything! I'm going to go complain on the Internet until I get my way!"

Seen it happen dude, seen it happen...

OK, I haven't seen it happen, but the idea of someone boycotting a toaster for not having a bagel slot (who the fuck would want a slot specifically for bagels!?) is hilarious. Much like this boycott now.

Quick philosophical point for everyone! PC gamers are currently going apeshit every time something happens that's out of their comfort zone (see also : Left 4 Dead 2). They are slinging around the term boycott like it's Apple's new buzzword...

And people are wondering why these companies are deciding to ignore them in favour of console gamers who just want to play games? Really?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2703
Joined: 20 Feb 2008

Ya boycott it that'll show them. Then all the casual gamers that they are trying to attract won't have to worry about a bunch of elitists ruining thier experience. Which means they might have fun and tell all their casual gamer friends. Then more companies will follow suit which will eventually lead to you becoming a HARDCORE reader. Maybe a HARDCORE movie watcher. While they cash in on the market companies like Popcap and Nintendo have proven are out there and swim in silos filled with money.

Paperboy
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Joined: 31 Mar 2009

I was undecided if I was going to buy MW2 for the winter holiday or wait until next year sometime, but now I've made up my mind and probably won't bother with it until it's cheap. I don't like the very late introduction and lack of actual demonstration of IWnet and the lack of dedicated servers. Also I played CoD4 online and remembered why I stopped playing it. Small maps that just turned into rapefests.

IWnet does sound interesting, but I fail to see why they also can't have dedicated servers, and they haven't said where the servers for IWnet will be hosted, certainly if players have to host them then it's really going to suck.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2651
Joined: 20 Jul 2008

Could take the approach of many /v/irgins and say that you won't 'buy' the game.

I don't see why consoles are held back so much, as in lacking dedicated servers and so forth, it's not like it is not possible. Though why must the PC version lose this ability?

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 10 Jul 2009

/signing

And buying it for Xbox... probably... maybe not.

Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 16 Aug 2008

It's good, I have even more reason to not get Modern Warfare 2. Mind you, I'd have got it on 360 if I cared at all about the series anymore.

But I don't.

Muckraker
Posts: 226
Joined: 17 Dec 2008

Zetona:
Oh, how petty of all you PC gamers. You've had it too good for too long.

Or, more logically, removing dedicated servers might be some sort of cost-cutting measure. After all, this is an economic recession, and Activision/Infinity Ward are businesses as surely as PC gamers are not.

How is removing dedicated servers cost-cutting? It's doesn't cut ANY costs.

PC gamers (like me) are angry because they are removing the functionality that was the standard for more then a DECADE. We cant play our own custom maps, game mods, have favorite servers or ANYTHING that makes the PC version of the games multiplayer unique.

In short: removing good features as time goes on.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 445
Joined: 28 Apr 2009

Boycotting, everyone is doing these days eh? I doubt this 'boycott' will even effect Infinity Ward at all. It's not like every single PC gamer is suddenly going to now get MW2, that's the only way the boycott would work really.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 494
Joined: 22 Feb 2009

Sure it'll be a different way of doing things, but this sounds more like the console multiplayer; which, despite drawbacks (ragequitting hosts, etc) it seems to work well enough.

Katana314:
Hey everyone, let's hate on people for NOT WANTING TO PLAY A VIDEO GAME. God they must be such PASTY NERDS.

WHO'VE NEVER SEEN A REAL BOOB.

Yeah I can do insults too.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1604
Joined: 28 Aug 2008

I'm more interested in Jurassic: The Hunted anyway.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1302
Joined: 19 Dec 2008

I wasn't going to get the game anyway since it offers nothing I'm remotely interested in. Does that count as boycotting? :p

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1803
Joined: 8 Nov 2008

Weren't you already boycotting it for the price? Or did you just give up because these things don't work?

Paperboy
Posts: 36
Joined: 4 Sep 2009

This is as bad as the SC2 battle net thing, they really don't give a shit anymore, do they?

LAN allows players to play online matches using pirated copies of games. (Including most of, if not all of, Blizzard's titles using it.) One person buys a copy, lets everyone they know install it as well as a no-CD mod, then use Hamachi or a similar program to play online in the LAN lobby. Several people can play it, with online access (Although limited.). They're allowed to do what they thought best to fight piracy.

OT: Activision's greedy, really. It's a way to charge PC gamers for DLC (Since I'm fairly sure you could just copy the map, rename it and make a few tweaks to turn it into a downloadable 'custom map' otherwise.) and make a bit of extra cash from advertising on IW.net. I don't agree with it, but I was going to get the 360 version anyway, since that's what I used for CoD 4, so it doesn't effect me.
Besides, the console system worked fine. You could still have private games to cater for clans and you could tweak those settings however you wanted. Only problem was that they were hosted off whoever had the best connection. If they were removing mods, I guess they didn't see a need for dedicated servers while using this system.

On the plus side, this means they can have less corrupt leaderboards now.

which, despite drawbacks (ragequitting hosts, etc) it seems to work well enough.

That was one of it's biggest flaws, and they've added host migration so that's pretty much sorted.

Muckraker
Posts: 325
Joined: 22 Sep 2008

Why boycott it? I'm more interested to see how the story progresses in the Single Player : p
As for Multi Player, I'll be playing most of that at our local LAN's anyway, where I'll do what we've all wanted to at least once in life... Use a AC-130 to pound the living goop out of your own friends!

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1755
Joined: 9 Jan 2009

Boycotting seems to be in fashion at the moment. But I do understand their arguement, PC games are supposed to be better than console games or the universe will shift out of balance.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 424
Joined: 17 Jul 2009

Seems to me PC gamers are very wingey people, yeah I love playing UT GOTY etc still for the mods, its great fun. But you will still be able to play MW2 just crack it and play on private servers that should keep your beloved communitys closed off from the rest of us.

The system that is set to replace the dedicated servers looks pretty solid to me, I like simplicity, the endless sifting through servers to find people worth playing irritates the s**t out of me sometimes, serious and if you dont like what IW is doing then by all means boycott one of the most anticipated games of the year, your loss, you wont get to play, IW will still make record profits and the next CoD wont have to give a flying f**k about you because your already out of its market.

IW's game, IW's rules.

Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 549
Joined: 8 Feb 2008

already boycotting bro. check out teh petition was on 50k now its on 120k!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html

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