I'm pissed at IW for fucking up their killer game so much, BUT I don't care enough to register for their forums. Sorry, let us know when a REAL internet petition is happening.
I'm pissed at IW for fucking up their killer game so much, BUT I don't care enough to register for their forums. Sorry, let us know when a REAL internet petition is happening.
It is dude. You don't need to register, follow the links and put your name and email. Fake name if you want. I've signed twice.
I'm pissed at IW for fucking up their killer game so much, BUT I don't care enough to register for their forums. Sorry, let us know when a REAL internet petition is happening.
It is dude. You don't need to register, follow the links and put your name and email. Fake name if you want. I've signed twice.
I signed. It is utterly ridiculous that they would do something like this. The only two game-types where it could even be a problem is S&D and FFA. It seems like IW is trying to punish us for having friends that play other games.
I'm pissed at IW for fucking up their killer game so much, BUT I don't care enough to register for their forums. Sorry, let us know when a REAL internet petition is happening.
It is dude. You don't need to register, follow the links and put your name and email. Fake name if you want. I've signed twice.
I signed. It is utterly ridiculous that they would do something like this. The only two game-types where it could even be a problem is S&D and FFA. It seems like IW is trying to punish us for having friends that play other games.
That's it! IW Want everyone to buy MW2, so they're separating MW2 gamers from non-MW2 gamers.
Team games where you actually talk to and strategize with your team? UNHEARD OF! DEVILISH! How will we deal with this?! Oh my, all of multiplayer is just RUINED! Curse that horrid company Infinity Ward for this abomination!
Yes, I am sarcastic sometimes. Why do you ask?
And this does happen occasionally. I participate when it does. But we all know XBL is filled with immature brats and full grown idiots. SOME people use Party Chat so they can have a conversation without having their sexuality, nationality, and intelligence challenged by every slack-jawed wanker who managed to figure out how his microphone worked. Taking Party Chat away removes options. And taking away option always has unintended results.
I'm pissed at IW for fucking up their killer game so much, BUT I don't care enough to register for their forums. Sorry, let us know when a REAL internet petition is happening.
It is dude. You don't need to register, follow the links and put your name and email. Fake name if you want. I've signed twice.
I signed. It is utterly ridiculous that they would do something like this. The only two game-types where it could even be a problem is S&D and FFA. It seems like IW is trying to punish us for having friends that play other games.
That's it! IW Want everyone to buy MW2, so they're separating MW2 gamers from non-MW2 gamers.
I added a link in the original post of this thread to your petition thread, hopefully it will raise more awareness. Despite the attempts of many people here to downplay the impact that this will have, I can only hope enough people see it to do SOMETHING.
Team games where you actually talk to and strategize with your team? UNHEARD OF! DEVILISH! How will we deal with this?! Oh my, all of multiplayer is just RUINED! Curse that horrid company Infinity Ward for this abomination!
Yes, I am sarcastic sometimes. Why do you ask?
And this does happen occasionally. I participate when it does. But we all know XBL is filled with immature brats and full grown idiots. SOME people use Party Chat so they can have a conversation without having their sexuality, nationality, and intelligence challenged by every slack-jawed wanker who managed to figure out how his microphone worked. Taking Party Chat away removes options. And taking away option always has unintended results.
do you know what mute is? i dont think you do
I know how to mute buddy. I became quite good at doing it quickly before the NXE came out. What if I want to talk to people uninterrupted, or to people that aren't playing the game? Please refrain from treating people like retards when you don't have any idea what they are talking about.
Team games where you actually talk to and strategize with your team? UNHEARD OF! DEVILISH! How will we deal with this?! Oh my, all of multiplayer is just RUINED! Curse that horrid company Infinity Ward for this abomination!
Yes, I am sarcastic sometimes. Why do you ask?
And this does happen occasionally. I participate when it does. But we all know XBL is filled with immature brats and full grown idiots. SOME people use Party Chat so they can have a conversation without having their sexuality, nationality, and intelligence challenged by every slack-jawed wanker who managed to figure out how his microphone worked. Taking Party Chat away removes options. And taking away option always has unintended results.
do you know what mute is? i dont think you do
I know how to mute buddy. I became quite good at doing it quickly before the NXE came out. What if I want to talk to people uninterrupted, or to people that aren't playing the game? Please refrain from treating people like retards when you don't have any idea what they are talking about.
again all the first half did was state why to mute and the second is why there was private chat before the party
Team games where you actually talk to and strategize with your team? UNHEARD OF! DEVILISH! How will we deal with this?! Oh my, all of multiplayer is just RUINED! Curse that horrid company Infinity Ward for this abomination!
Yes, I am sarcastic sometimes. Why do you ask?
And this does happen occasionally. I participate when it does. But we all know XBL is filled with immature brats and full grown idiots. SOME people use Party Chat so they can have a conversation without having their sexuality, nationality, and intelligence challenged by every slack-jawed wanker who managed to figure out how his microphone worked. Taking Party Chat away removes options. And taking away option always has unintended results.
do you know what mute is? i dont think you do
I know how to mute buddy. I became quite good at doing it quickly before the NXE came out. What if I want to talk to people uninterrupted, or to people that aren't playing the game? Please refrain from treating people like retards when you don't have any idea what they are talking about.
again all the first half did was state why to mute and the second is why there was private chat before the party
Are you telling me you only have one friend? C'mon now. And I wouldn't be surprised if private chats were disabled in MW2 for the same reason Party Chats are being disabled.
Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
JimmyBassatti: Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
How do they cheat? There is only one gametype where you can not talk to your team at all times, even when dead: Search and Destroy (Hardcore S&D as well, but I count them as one). I could understand if they were disabling the party chat for that game type only, but they're eliminating it for almost every gametype, which makes no sense.
Besides, the only game I've ever played where you could really use Party Chat to cheat was Gears of War 2, since dead players had a ghost cam. It's beyond useless for CoD.
JimmyBassatti: Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
How do they cheat? There is only one gametype where you can not talk to your team at all times, even when dead: Search and Destroy (Hardcore S&D as well, but I count them as one). I could understand if they were disabling the party chat for that game type only, but they're eliminating it for almost every gametype, which makes no sense.
Besides, the only game I've ever played where you could really use Party Chat to cheat was Gears of War 2, since dead players had a ghost cam. It's beyond useless for CoD.
Look on the map and tell them where they are? That's what a lot of people I have on my 360 list do, and it can really turn the tide of the game to the other team if they get help like that. You could just mute everyone and talk to your friends. Just don't talk about embarrassing shit.
JimmyBassatti: Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
How do they cheat? There is only one gametype where you can not talk to your team at all times, even when dead: Search and Destroy (Hardcore S&D as well, but I count them as one). I could understand if they were disabling the party chat for that game type only, but they're eliminating it for almost every gametype, which makes no sense.
Besides, the only game I've ever played where you could really use Party Chat to cheat was Gears of War 2, since dead players had a ghost cam. It's beyond useless for CoD.
Look on the map and tell them where they are? That's what a lot of people I have on my 360 list do, and it can really turn the tide of the game to the other team if they get help like that. You could just mute everyone and talk to your friends. Just don't talk about embarrassing shit.
You can't look at the map, unless it's a private match and the Host specifically allowed it. When you're dead, all you can do is spectate the remaining players on your side. That's it.
JimmyBassatti: Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
How do they cheat? There is only one gametype where you can not talk to your team at all times, even when dead: Search and Destroy (Hardcore S&D as well, but I count them as one). I could understand if they were disabling the party chat for that game type only, but they're eliminating it for almost every gametype, which makes no sense.
Besides, the only game I've ever played where you could really use Party Chat to cheat was Gears of War 2, since dead players had a ghost cam. It's beyond useless for CoD.
Look on the map and tell them where they are? That's what a lot of people I have on my 360 list do, and it can really turn the tide of the game to the other team if they get help like that. You could just mute everyone and talk to your friends. Just don't talk about embarrassing shit.
You can't look at the map, unless it's a private match and the Host specifically allowed it. When you're dead, all you can do is spectate the remaining players on your side. That's it.
Not while they are dead. Why does it have to be when they are dead? Couldn't they be alive, in a party, and tell you where?
JimmyBassatti: Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
How do they cheat? There is only one gametype where you can not talk to your team at all times, even when dead: Search and Destroy (Hardcore S&D as well, but I count them as one). I could understand if they were disabling the party chat for that game type only, but they're eliminating it for almost every gametype, which makes no sense.
Besides, the only game I've ever played where you could really use Party Chat to cheat was Gears of War 2, since dead players had a ghost cam. It's beyond useless for CoD.
Look on the map and tell them where they are? That's what a lot of people I have on my 360 list do, and it can really turn the tide of the game to the other team if they get help like that. You could just mute everyone and talk to your friends. Just don't talk about embarrassing shit.
You can't look at the map, unless it's a private match and the Host specifically allowed it. When you're dead, all you can do is spectate the remaining players on your side. That's it.
Not while they are dead. Why does it have to be when they are dead? Couldn't they be alive, in a party, and tell you where?
Yes, but I don't really see how that's an issue. Either: A)They're alive on your team and telling you where others are, which can be done (and, indeed, is partially what chat is for in the first place) without party chat B)They're alive and you're dead, thereby making them feeding you intel completely pointless C)You're both alive in separate games, at which point what is the point?
Those are the only possible situations I can think of where what you've said can be done, and none of them are cheating. To be frank, it sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about with this.
Um......, it's a game, people need to stop caring if others cheat, it's gonna be fun regardless of cheating, fucking no lives. And might I add that IT IS A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, so someone got 30 more xp because their friends told them where they were.
SpartanE58: Great, way to axe one of the major selling points of the 360. I HATE game chats. I never use it. I'd rather chat with people on my Friends List that I know and enjoy talking to. I dislike talking to random people in game chats. I shall not have a mic on when playing this game in protest.
Errrm... I don't mean to simply advertise, but you could actually protest. Sign the petition in the post above you. In fact, I've signed it twice. You have no idea how much I don't want this to happen.
This is one of the reasons why i prefer PC gaming, theres no Master coporation that has the final say over what i can do on my machine. Whilst Microsoft may create windows, they dont have the same power over it as they do with XBL.
I can hardly understand people on XBL half the time anyway, what i would give to be able to use Skype on consoles for the off game that doesnt get released on PC
JimmyBassatti: Why is everyone complaining about choices the developer make? People cheat all the time with Party Chat. My friend would help these other kids by telling them where his team mates are so they could kill them. Stuff like that ruins the game for me. Since I only really play FFA and TDM, it won't affect me, really. Just talk to your friends in game chat?
I can grant you that point, but what if you have friends that aren't playing MW2? I can't talk to them unless they are playing MW2 as well. This means that I am being denied access to a feature in gametypes where that feature has no effect on the gameplay. You can make points about how I should talk to the other people in the game and discuss tactics and such, but what if my team is composed of no-mics? Aren't they just a big as problem as people not talking in the regular chat?
A lot of people are making points about how it makes you focus on the game. To that, I can only say this: I can multitask. I play well enough (2.7K/D, positive W/L ratio) to accurately state that I can play and talk to other people. In game chat has almost nothing to do with a win or loss, since many people either don't have mics or don't contribute anything even if they do. Most people play games as a way of relaxing, not to get into an argument or to have to listen to some guy playing music over his microphone.
As a result of all this nonsense, I will probably be putting my voice settings on Friends Only. Guess what guys? I will be in the channel, but we still won't be able to talk to each other. YAY FOR OPTIONS BEING REMOVED.
Here is a post and riposte from two friends of mine, who are/were on different sides of this issue. I thought they both brought up several good points, so I am quoting them here:
1. IW's intention is not to "punish" you. Their intention is to protect the integrity of one of their most popular gametypes. I have no idea if it's feasible to code in a game only chat. I would say not or else that's what they would have done.
2. As someone who's been frustrated with the random dude who's not on the game chat, I say hooray for this. I don't know how many times we've had a random guy that's on a party chat somewhere else not paying attention to our game.
No mic guy sucks ass Tyburn, and you know it, especially for gametypes like S&D, HQ or CTF where communication is important.
All party chat does is up the percentage of getting "no mic guy" on your team by 800%.
i'm totally with you on #1 I see the motivation and i understand it. I just don't like being collateral damage. I also no nothing of programming or code or anything so i don't know how any of that would work
@ 2 I've always been in a party and I ONLY play when I have friends playing with me (usually a handful 3-6) so I've never had that issue. It may help the game I guess in those ways that you mention it, but it really sucks for the social butterfly like myself and when you have friends who don't always play together or the same game this is just an obstacle.
After reading your post on the bottom of the last page it is obvious why we see this event or whatever you call it so differently. You don't play often, you don't use party chat, etc. I play all the time and am in a party maybe more than 90% of the time. I am greatly affected by it and you probably won't be.
Since A LOT of people will be playing MW2 maybe non-stop or exclusively for months, this means (for me) that I HAVE to play MW2 to chat with them or simply not really talk to them in the meantime, which blows.
Le sigh. Sucks to be me, but hell if it helps you enjoy the one game you manage to barely acquire time to play for a measly hour or two every few days, then I guess I should be happy about that...it isn't the end of the world even though I still think it blows ass. :-/
Didn't read the article did we. Its not the PC version, but the Xbox 360 version this is affecting. Also if you think about it how would IW be able to kick you and your party out of vent if your playing Search and Destroy?
it was a joke. although to be fair you could still use ventrillo on your computer at the same time as playing your console on your tv.
Audemas: While I see what they are trying to do, I think that Infinity Ward is putting too much trust in people to actually play this game with strategy. I know I'm not always wanting to be strategic, I just want to run around and shoot people online.
IMO they are putting too much trust in people buying a turd with the MW logo on it on the premise that the first one was good.
-The campaign is pathetically short and predictable. 4 hours 30 minutes on regular with all the point twists except one spoiled in the trailers and that one was so predictable that i figured i out an hour before it happened. Gameplay is completely generic "shoot stuff till the boss says walk 10 paces and shoot stuff". -Price increase and now they are stripping features out of every version with idiotic justifications. "There's too much pirates on the PC, hence why we remove everything that people bought the PC version for". Then the 360 version gets leaked and downloaded a couple million times and they stiff haven't apologised for their insults. I wonder what they'll do to piss of PS3 users. Charge money for PSN? -Valid concerns raised by pre-release players are dismissed because they are "out of context". How is a glitch that allows you to fire 30 noobtubes per second with unlimited ammo irrelevant because the person who discovered got his game shipped early? -A price increase, a PC specific price increase, a europe specific price increase, a steam specific price increase, a europe specific delay and a steam specific delay and they still expect us to kiss their ass for their "improvement" of IWnet over dedicated servers.
Just to say I agree with you 100%.
OT: I have said this a good few times now I hate to say I told you so but I told you so I knew as soon as they were done fucking up the PC version they were gonna go for the consoles next and here it is in all it's shit stained glory.
Why does IW seem to think it is a good idea to continuosly knock the game and give abosolutely crap reasons for doing so.
The reasoning for this is just so (I can't actually think of a word to describe how stupid the moves of late have been) but the dedicated server reasons and know this I am starting to think they actually want the ruined.
I may not be a console gamer(online anyway) but I know enough about XBL to know this is killing a large part of the social aspect of it.
I just hope now any previous people that may have complained about "PC Elitism" before see that it is more than and I am on the side of any Xbox members opposed to this.
damn... I would rather talk to my friends who are playing different games than whiney 13 year olds bitching about them completely sucking