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I'd love to have the demo. I hate you all. :'( | |
I'm downloading it now, i've not played L4D past the first level when my friend brought it over, so we will see. | |
I thought the demo was pretty damn good. Which is odd considering I wasn't interested in L4D. | |
Seems similar to me. EDIT: I loved L4D, and if two is the same, that is good. Do not stray from the formula! | |
L4D2 is more of the same, but vastly improved. Definite buy in my eyes :D. | |
Two is better. The game feels roughly similar but they've tweaked it to feel more like a horror survival (forgive me, Seamus)
Perfect sum up | |
I'm going to pre-order it later today, thanks to the spiffy hat I'll be getting for TF2. (Yeah, I loved L4D1, but I almost never pre-order anything. Now I will.) | |
It's worth it. Everything is new and improved. The gun reloads are cooler, they look and fire differently, fire graphics have been improved. | |
Based on the demo, so far it's just more L4D. I doubt it's going to make any new converts and a fair few people are going to cry foul at having to pay for something that does feel like a large update rather than a new game. For some reason the sound quality seems to have take a big dip as well, whether that's just the demo I don't know, but the sound is noticeably softer and less sharp than in L4D. Having said that it's really run with with the bigger/more theme, even in the demo the extra weapons made a real difference to the gameplay. The new infected mix it up quite effectively as well, the jockey and Charger completely buggered up my team that's well rehearsed in dealing with Tank/Smoker/Hunter/Boomer, that's good, Spitter, not so much. The rolling crescendo event is genius too. Compared to what EA/Actibliz come up with in annual sequels it seems to be a much better value effort. I think for £25 it's worth it, but like L4D I wouldn't have paid full retail (£50) for it. If it turns out to be massive then I'll stand corrected. | |
I was getting l4d2 anyway but after the demo I can see why its a new game and full priced, its got a vast number of improvments over the original, altho the ai director is much more dickish now | |
Fair enough.
I thought the same, with even the graphics for the fire being improved and stuff this really does just feel justified to me now. Even though I was going to get it anyway. | |
Yes, I feel that L4D2 was worth the money I spent pre-ordering it. And that's just based on the demo. Can't wait for the full game. Honestly, there's just something about L4D2 that makes it far more entertaining for me than L4D. | |
L4D has the same formula but completely different content. Having it as DLC would be DLC that is larger then L4D itself, which would be stupid. | |
Yeah, they've tweaked just right so its more of what we love but feels somehow more like a survival horror. It may just be because I'm not used to the levels yet but I do feel more careful and on edge than I did with L4D. | |
I love you. | |
I played it. The only thing that bugged me was that the splitscreen framerate SUCKED. | |
I mostly agree - though I can still feel some of the old L4D in there, which is alright. | |
What people seem to be unaware of/forget/wilfully ignore when they say that Left 4 Dead 2 is just an update to Left 4 Dead 1 is that there will be more campaigns and game modes in Left 4 Dead 2 than there were in the original game at release. How can something that has more content to start off with than the product that pre-dates it be an update? As it happens, I have played the demo, and can safely say that those two chapters were at least as entertaining as a whole campaign in Left 4 Dead. The only bad things about it: the Jockey, and the fact that it ended. | |
When does the demo get released for those of us who haven't pre-ordered? Wasn't it supposed to be today? I thought thats when it was but then D4zZ said it was delayed. | |
Today for XBL Gold members who haven't prordered, for Silver it's the 10th when the actual game is released.
Exactly man, exactly. It's so exhilerating(sp?), especially the crescendo event :D
Yeah, they've kept the stuff we love :) | |
I was boycotting it because I didn't want to buy it and then have a better version come out a year later. I could see doing that for something cheap, but not something that costs $60. | |
I have played it and it is very much different, but not too different. Anyone who has played L4D will know how to play L4D2, but it is different enough that it is not a rehash. There are more choices, which means more variety. I mean this in Special infected, weapons, and even health boosters. I love the melee weapons and can;t wait to try the chainsaw. | |
The new weapons are nice (if a bit tacked-on from Counter-Strike), but what I liked is how they're placed in the maps: scattered and random, not just all 3 on one table like in the original L4D. Makes it a bit more realistic: use the tools you have, not the tools you want. Still not sold on the usefulness of the Boomer Bile grenade though... I know it's supposed to make a mob of zombies start attacking each other, but in practice it's like a pipebomb grenade but less flashy. And the Jockey is too silly for me to take it seriously. It's like somebody cross-bred a hyena with a hunchback midget and trained him to rape heads. I don't feel terror when that thing lands on me, I feel shame. How can the other characters shout "It's riding him!" with deadly seriousness? | |
Everything feels different, and I hate it. I am not loyal to a title or a series, I am loyal to a game. If it works, DON'T FIX IT. Sell it under a different title, or name it "Left 4 Dead: Louisiana" but do not call it a sequel, because it is not the same gameplay we had in L4D, there are melee weapons, new gimmicky undead and new special weps. | |
I'm currently downloading the demo. Zombies, prepare to get beat down... Edit: I played it, and it was amazing! Certainly feels better than the first, and having only borrowed the first, this is definitely one I'll plan on buying. | |
Bile Bomb: Toss on a tank. With all the infected attacking him, helps to slow him down. Jockey: Wait til that little shit jumps on you when you are trying to crown a witch. You'll feel more than shame. | |
i pre-ordered it last week. i like the new choices in weapondry. the desert eagle kicks ass as does the SPAS shotgun. they, along with maybe one bile bomb, help get me through the awesome crescendo event everytime. watching a tank trying to get to you with a horde attacking it is good fun too. my only complaint is the recharge time on melee even with primary weapons, makes fending off a sudden horde in expert a bit more difficult. oh, and the female boomer.. .. | |
Tomorrow at 7am GMT if you're on PC. | |
I played it all last evening and had the time of my life. Never played the orginial but found it fun, Easy and Normal mode were both, um, easy. Advanced was passable as well but the team I was with could not do Expert, this was partly my fault for running too far ahead. Yeah, it ended far too soon. And I love the sniper rifles. And the machette. | |
Why are you playing it for Xbox?? Why pay 10 bucks a month for online support? if you had it for PC controls would be better it would be 10 bucks cheaper and stem doesnt charge you 10 bucks a month. Plus its a valve game; its meant to be played for PC. Plus we had the demo already. It really doesnt matter though i am not picking up this game Killing floor is way more fun due to the fact A) it cost 20 bucks B) 7 classes now and a ton of maps (free of charge) more variety in zombie types and its a more difficult game. | |
Because he prefers using a controller, TV and doesn't have a gaming PC. Why do you care? Edit:
What? How does how much something cost make it more fun to play? I've played many a free game and play Quake Live a hell of a lot but doesn't make it more fun than the games I've paid for. Value yes, fun/gameplay no. | |
Left 4 Dead 2 is astounding. There's a lot of fun to be had with just the two chapters, and the gameplay has been improved tremendously from Left 4 Dead. The special infected all have synergy, even with the 3 new additions. In chapter 2 of The Parish, we were about to go around a corner, but a Jockey attached itself to Nick and ran him off around the corner, a spitter spat on the ground to separate us from him, and a smoker yanked me in the direction opposite of the way Nick was going. Yikes. That attack alone downed 2 of us, and that's just one combo. I'd hate to see a boomer, jockey, and a charger together. The new changes to the inventory are excellent as well. There's an element of choice when I'm deciding if I want 2x pistols or a guitar, which is a great move on Valve's part, since you can never anticipate which of the two you will need later in the level. The same applies to the Defibrillator and Boomer Bile, since they both also have their own uses. I don't think I'd ever take adrenaline over pills though. I can see where it could come in handy, but adrenaline is too much of a niche thing for me to consider carrying around. Overall, Left 4 Dead 2 improves virtually every single aspect of the original. I can't wait to finish The Parish and the other 4 campaigns C: | |
Well, seeing that this sounds like an open question, I'm going to answer it. Firstly, I own an X-Box 360. Also, I do not have a PC that could effectively run L4D2 (or any modern PC game for that matter). Also, I'd personally prefer to play the game on the 360 than I would on a PC. As shocking as it may seem, there are also bound to be a myriad of other reasons why somebody would choose to play the game on their console over the PC. | |
Because I was raised on console shooters. I play TF2 leagues better with a controller than I do with a mouse and keyboard. | |
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Remember how a lot of people thought that L4D2 wasn't going to be much different to L4D at all? (Read: boycotters) Yeah, well, I can safely say: bullshit. You can feel the difference with it at the very moment you start playing. Everything feels different, and it's fucking good. Who else has the demo, and what do you think of it?