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Poll: Tekken 6 - Why are you so hard?


Does Azazel want to make you shoot people?
Yes, I am a mere peasant compared to Azazel
26.2% (11)
26.2% (11)
No, this guy is easy! (liar!)
14.3% (6)
14.3% (6)
Aza-who?
42.9% (18)
42.9% (18)
Tekken 6 is for chumps, it wont let me button bash!
16.7% (7)
16.7% (7)
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Infamous Scribbler
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Your problem? Playing a Tekken game :D. Still though, sounds like any fighting game to me (which is why I don't play many fighting games *boots up Power Stone*).

Oh and seriously, try not to use the word "faggot", it just makes you sound ignorant.

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sunami88:
Oh and seriously, try not to use the word "faggot", it just makes you sound ignorant.

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

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Because people know how to cheat, thats why it is so hard. Xploder forms check it up.

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Mr.Black:

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

"Faggot" in my part of the world is a derogatory term for a gay person. In fact I'd never heard it used for anything else.

My bad.

EDIT:
Actually, that's a half lie. I've heard a cigarette referred to as a "fag". But as far as calling someone a "faggot", again with the slur for homosexuals (like saying something you don't like is "gay").

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Mr.Black:

RAGE

Oh my lord. I just failed thirteen times in a row against that last faggot of a boss, Azazel. Is anyone else having trouble beating this guy? Sure, I've won one round of the three, but he just turns on douchebag-mode and kicks my ass when I've almost won.

Let's see here;

    Blocks 99% of my attacks.
    He has laser beams.
    At least two of his attacks I can't block.
    If I play defensively he just pwns me.
    If I play offensively he cheats and somehow blocks my attacks while he is attacking me.
    I cannot grab him (He's fucking enormous, like that faggot robot in the bonus level).
    HE HAS LASER BEAMS.

Maybe I'm just plain bad at this game. But this guy makes me want to throw my PS3 off the Sydney Harbour Bridge. I'm playing on the second easiest difficulty, and I had no trouble beating everyone before this guy. Honestly I feel I'm just getting lucky when I get hits on, sometimes he blocks, sometimes he doesn't and sometimes his block stays up while he is attacking.

I'm going fucking insane trying to beat this guy.

I feel your pain. Go to sleep and you will do it first time tomorrow. That is how I managed to do it. I failed 40 minutes solid so I know what you feel.

However there is an even cheaper boss near the end of Scenario Campaign.

Seriously though, get some rest and it works.

Out of interest, which character are you using?

Copy Clerk
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I swear to the Gods, if it didn't cost so much, I woulda chucked my PS3 out the window because of how much Azazel is a BITCH!

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I know why you can't beat him.

He's a final boss. They are meant to make you like you are now. Angry and alone, with no-one to save you from your own inward spiral of destruction.

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sasquatch99:
I know why you can't beat him.

He's a final boss. They are meant to make you like you are now. Angry and alone, with no-one to save you from your own inward spiral of destruction.

He is much more than a final boss. If I could I'd take my console and game over and show you. But I don't know where you live.

Gone Gonzo
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Losing to a final boss from any fighting game doesn't mean you're a bad player, it just means you're not a godlike player. Final bosses are almost universally cheap, but the bosses for the King of Iron Juggle Tournament games usually take the cake, second only to SNK's infamous Geese Howard.

Find a move that works and spam it. That tactic's usually frowned upon as "cheap", but seriously, it's the final boss we're talking about. Anything goes. Win any way you can.

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Naturalized:
Out of interest, which character are you using?

Jack-6. I did try it once with Steve.

Space Spoons:
Find a move that works and spam it. That tactic's usually frowned upon as "cheap", but seriously, it's the final boss we're talking about. Anything goes. Win any way you can.

I was doing ->+LPRP (forward, both punches). That move where he thrusts both his arms forward. It's a super quick move and knocks him back. Usually he just steps forward, I do my move, he steps backwards and eventually he just fucks up and tries to do an attack and he gets hit, but sometimes he does an attack which somehow I can't hit him through and I get combo-pwned.

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I do agree that he's a hard final boss, fittingly so, but I had a harder time against the King of Iron Juggle Tournament *nods to Space Spoons* Jin Kazama, he kicked my arse more times than Azazel, since I usually lose 2/3 of my health in the air.

Having also played online and seen the rampant juggling present there, as well as the monumental general slowdown of the characters and sluggishness of the 360 controller response times, I've come to the sad realization that Tekken 6 is too far from my beloved Tekken 3 (the last one I played) for me to continue playing. I'm selling my copy, and I'll wait and use the money for Assassin's Creed 2.

Gone Gonzo
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Mr.Black:

sunami88:
Oh and seriously, try not to use the word "faggot", it just makes you sound ignorant.

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

This aint X-Box live reign it in.

As for the boss learn to juggle he teleports whne hes on his back thats where he gets alot of people, either make him fall down face forward (cant teleport insta jump) or kill him within a juggle. Barring that set your time limit to 30 seconds, set difficulty to easy, set number of roundds to one then just stand prone youll block most of his attacks and deal enough damage to win the match after time runs out.

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Mr.Black:

RAGE

Oh my lord. I just failed thirteen times in a row against that last faggot of a boss, Azazel. Is anyone else having trouble beating this guy? Sure, I've won one round of the three, but he just turns on douchebag-mode and kicks my ass when I've almost won.

Let's see here;

    Blocks 99% of my attacks.
    He has laser beams.
    At least two of his attacks I can't block.
    If I play defensively he just pwns me.
    If I play offensively he cheats and somehow blocks my attacks while he is attacking me.
    I cannot grab him (He's fucking enormous, like that faggot robot in the bonus level).
    HE HAS LASER BEAMS.

Maybe I'm just plain bad at this game. But this guy makes me want to throw my PS3 off the Sydney Harbour Bridge. I'm playing on the second easiest difficulty, and I had no trouble beating everyone before this guy. Honestly I feel I'm just getting lucky when I get hits on, sometimes he blocks, sometimes he doesn't and sometimes his block stays up while he is attacking.

I'm going fucking insane trying to beat this guy.

Those are fairly standard features in a cheap-ass fighting game boss. And laser beams are not exactly a new feature in end bosses in Tekken. I had a friend I used to play Tekken 2 with, he would always choose Devil Kazuya because the only way he could beat me was to get lucky and catch me off guard by spamming his eye lasers.

But yeah, I don't think anyone actually plays fighting games for end bosses. They are expected to be cheap and have bullshit attacks. But if I can give you any actual useful advice for beating Azazel, I would suggest that you get really good at sidestepping. If you sidestep his attacks, he's a chump.

And just be glad he isn't Gill from SF3. Who magically re-gains his entire health bar when you beat him. Ugh, that's the true definition of a cheesy boss.

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Fail game is fail.

Gone Gonzo
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Mr.Black:

sunami88:
Oh and seriously, try not to use the word "faggot", it just makes you sound ignorant.

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

sunami88:

Mr.Black:

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

"Faggot" in my part of the world is a derogatory term for a gay person. In fact I'd never heard it used for anything else.

My bad.

EDIT:
Actually, that's a half lie. I've heard a cigarette referred to as a "fag". But as far as calling someone a "faggot", again with the slur for homosexuals (like saying something you don't like is "gay").

I'm watching Southpark right now and the episode is of this very topic. Just because where you're from the word is a pejorative word for a homosexual, doesn't mean that everywhere else has the same definition. In Australia, so I understand, if one is "pissed", they are drunk off their ass. Here in America, if you are "pissed", you are extremely angry.

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Eicha:
Fail game is fail.

sunami88:
Your problem? Playing a Tekken game :D. Still though, sounds like any fighting game to me (which is why I don't play many fighting games *boots up Power Stone*).

So...why are you posting in a thread about a fighting game IF YOU DON'T PLAY IT?

And yes, Azazel is a huge bitch. I still haven't beat him yet.

Anonymous Source
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I definately noticed the Difficulty spike.
I was playing with Lars and about 2-3 battles before Azazel I have to actually start trying and make use of the block function.

Anywho. Azazel is annoying as hell and if you're not careful you'll kick your tv into the wall like I did.

I've beaten him a fair few times now. My friend used Miguel but personally I've found it a damn sight easier with Lars.

<- + B (Or O) = Knee.
-> + B = Spin Kick
Dash forward and A = Some kinda jumping kick thingy.

Anyways. You're catching the drift here. I rarely throw in punches and when I do it's Lars X and Y thingy where he spins around. Just keep doing the spin kick and such. Or the Knee to the chest.
Be VERY careful dashing towards him to kick him though because he'll do this annoying thing where he teleports up in the air and slams down on you. Then he'll unless a whole bunch of cheap ass moves that he'll spam until you're dead. It takes a lot of concentration. Oh and the moment he crouches like he's about pounce you, BLOCK. Then if he doesn't instantly dive. Duck. You'll dodge the laser everytime.

Another handy tip. The guys a bit of a moron. When he's down.. He doesn't like to get up very often.. You can do 3-4 Unblockables back to back and kick his ass entirely.

I beat him with Lili by just spamming out her Unblockable. I believe it's <- + X + B. Not sure though.
Lars is <- + Y + A. Hold them on both counts.

Best of Luck and keep at it! Drop that ass and show him who's boss!
What kind of Tekken final boss is pink and purple anyways? >_>

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I just killed him as Steve and the only move I did was diagonal-down-forward and both punches repeatedly. I do believe I yelled expletives at Azazel for being a d-bag.

MasterSpaceman:
What kind of Tekken final boss is pink and purple anyways? >_>

Jinpachi from Tekken 5 was a nice purple colour too. I guess there's a running theme here hehe.

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Mr.Black:
I just killed him as Steve and the only move I did was diagonal-down-forward and both punches repeatedly. I do believe I yelled expletives at Azazel for being a d-bag.

MasterSpaceman:
What kind of Tekken final boss is pink and purple anyways? >_>

Jinpachi from Tekken 5 was a nice purple colour too. I guess there's a running theme here hehe.

Nice one dude!
Yea now that I think about it he was. <_< Hm.

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Memories of Dural are haunting me...

Soon, you will discover a pattern, a recognizable, predictable pattern...

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sunami88:

Mr.Black:

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

"Faggot" in my part of the world is a derogatory term for a gay person. In fact I'd never heard it used for anything else.

My bad.

EDIT:
Actually, that's a half lie. I've heard a cigarette referred to as a "fag". But as far as calling someone a "faggot", again with the slur for homosexuals (like saying something you don't like is "gay").

"At last reluctantly Gandalf himself took a hand. Picking up a faggot, he held it aloft for a moment, and then with a word of command, naur an edraith ammen! he thrust the end of his staff into the midst of it. At once a great spout of green and blue flame sprang out, and the wood flared and sputtered."

The Fellowship of the Ring, pg. 283.

"Faggot" can also mean kindling, or a bundle of wood, etc.

OT, this is why I don't buy fighting games anymore. They're bad for my health.

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Eicha:
Fail game is fail.

Troll d00d is troll.

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I've only done it once as Steve, and my hand felt a little numb after all the button smoshing.
I think the key is to find a way to do a lot of damage really fast and hope he doesn't pull one of his random blocks. I'd look through the command list and find a good combo, one that's kinda short but does a fair amount of damage.
That, or you could go into practice and learn how to juggle people. I think he has some teleport thing to get out of juggles, but hey, it's worth a shot, right?

Both of these are gonna take a while to do, but it's Tekken so you can only expect as much.

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Tekken is built around a cheap fighting system. This should have been expected.

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Wow, guys, I messed up! I GET IT! I even went so far as to apologize and explain why I misunderstood.

Can we please move on? Get on with our lives? It's not very fun to wake up to being quoted 3 times and basically being called an idiot in all of them.

Yeesh...

And just on the record although I haven't played Tekken 6, I've played just about all the rest of them, and it just sounds like any ol boss in any ol fighting game to me. Anybody remember the fire guy at the end of Soul Calibur? He whooped my ass countless times just because that's what he's programmed to do (just like all the rest of them).

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Azazel is extremely cheap, far more than Jinpachi who was an appropriate final boss. His size and the excessive lighting effects alone makes it hard to see his moves, his block is an invisible barrier, so you never know when it's up, his ranged attacks are nightmarishly fast and cheap, and his damage is through the roof, especially when he goes into rage with 50+ % health left...

That and the constant 5 sec. loading between all transitions (after installing), having to unlock every story mode in that primitive brawler thing (with a worse boss???), and the online lag is included, makes Tekken 6 a step back from the previous one in my book, even with new charecters and better graphics and customization.

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Artemis923:
"Faggot" can also mean kindling, or a bundle of wood, etc.

Anyway, language evolves and there's almost nobody left who uses "faggot" to mean "kindling" especially in the context of the first post.

sunami88:
Wow, guys, I messed up! I GET IT! I even went so far as to apologize and explain why I misunderstood.

There's no reason to apologize. Unless the playstation network always uses "us.playstation.com" which I doubt, the TC is American and knows the American definition of the word.("against that last bundle of sticks of a boss" REALLY? I think he made a boner by using "faggot")

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I'm a huge Tekken fan, but I've yet to get my hands on Tekken 6. How does Azazel compare to Jinpachi?

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Amethyst Wind:
I do agree that he's a hard final boss, fittingly so, but I had a harder time against the King of Iron Juggle Tournament *nods to Space Spoons* Jin Kazama, he kicked my arse more times than Azazel, since I usually lose 2/3 of my health in the air.

Having also played online and seen the rampant juggling present there, as well as the monumental general slowdown of the characters and sluggishness of the 360 controller response times, I've come to the sad realization that Tekken 6 is too far from my beloved Tekken 3 (the last one I played) for me to continue playing. I'm selling my copy, and I'll wait and use the money for Assassin's Creed 2.

I miss Tekken Tag Tournament. Oh the brawls that came when you got a lot of people around. Tekken Bowling was the shit. Use both Jacks and go maximum power XD.

OT: I defeated him with Heihachi, even though it took a couple of tries, and I had to take a break a few times to keep from assaulting the game disc with a hammer. But you'll get him eventually.

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sunami88:

Mr.Black:

Wait what? That makes no sense. I'm using the word faggot to convey my hatred towards this guy. How does that in any way make me ignorant? Do I not know that it means bundle of sticks? I can't believe you're pulling me up for that. Who cares dude.

"Faggot" in my part of the world is a derogatory term for a gay person. In fact I'd never heard it used for anything else.

My bad.

EDIT:
Actually, that's a half lie. I've heard a cigarette referred to as a "fag". But as far as calling someone a "faggot", again with the slur for homosexuals (like saying something you don't like is "gay").

=D

OT: I like the fact it's hard as fuck. Nice for a Tekken game to actually be challenging once again, and beats having Heihachi as a final boss. >.>

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-Zen-:
I'm a huge Tekken fan, but I've yet to get my hands on Tekken 6. How does Azazel compare to Jinpachi?

Jinpachi is a pussy in comparison. x_x

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TelHybrid:

-Zen-:
I'm a huge Tekken fan, but I've yet to get my hands on Tekken 6. How does Azazel compare to Jinpachi?

Jinpachi is a pussy in comparison. x_x

I was afraid of that. Even though I got to the point where I consistently made Jinpachi my bitch, any boss that makes him look like a pansy is a few notches above "worrisome." I was aware that Azazel was going to be a pain, but I wasn't sure just how much of a pain he turned out to be.

This answers my question.

Oh well. I've dealt with Gill, I've dealt with Akuma, with Jinpachi and fuck-mothering Seth, and by god I'll deal with Azazel.

Gone Gonzo
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Thirteen? Pish-posh.

In SF4, playing Sakura, on Easiest with 1-round fights, I lost THIRTY FIVE times (guess who to). It took almost an hour and a half for me to FINALLY beat him into submission (only one small animal was injured during the process).

You'll make it.

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