Yes, I found a great lack of humor on Fallout 3 when compared to Fallut 1 or 2.
And another thing was the lack of item descriptions, this is useful, and they often made me laugh in the first 2 games. "Lead pipe. Can be used for plumbing, or Pummeling."

A large part of the humor from the first 2 games was missing from the third. Did I mention I miss the item descriptions?

Actually, All of the descriptions are missing. Perks, Stats, all that. It's one of the things I enjoyed so much in Fallout.

Also, None of the towns were very large. Remember the Hub, New Reno, or NCR? River city was large, but it didn't feel like a city.

I wanted a large metropolis full of prostitues and hookers and gangsters and Drug Dealers. God I loved New Reno. What I'm saying is none of the cites in Fallout 3 felt alive like they did in Fallout 1 or 2. They were too barren, and there wasn't enough sex or violence.

Anyway, Do you feel the Humor from the first 2 Fallout games was missing from the third?

'Give back the naughty nightwear'. nuff said

The map did feel too empty. That was one of my main gripes. It's different when you have a point-and-fast travel style like the first two games, but when you go across the wastes by foot they can be shockingly barren. Given the change in style they could easily have included a few more cities, and a few larger towns. Locations were admittedly rather frequent but they were all so small and pointless.

There is actually quite a bit of humour in Fallout 3. It's just very subtle, though.

metroidgearsolid:
'Give back the naughty nightwear'. nuff said

Being verbally assaulted by random people makes me laugh, though i think the humor is in the dialouge.

It's meant to be gone. Fallout 1+2 were works of art in humour, but FO3 went the darker route, and was all the better for it I think. It's more atmospheric when people die genuinely, instead of a text pop-up saying, "... Was hit in the groin for 146 hit points. The pain was too much, and the poor bastard crumpled like a rag!"

TheSeventhLoneWolf:

metroidgearsolid:
'Give back the naughty nightwear'. nuff said

Being verbally assaulted by random people makes me laugh, though i think the humor is in the dialouge.

I guess. but that was pretty funny.

Maybe Bethesda intended for Fallout 3 to be more serious?

Octorok:
It's meant to be gone. Fallout 1+2 were works of art in humour, but FO3 went the darker route, and was all the better for it I think. It's more atmospheric when people die genuinely, instead of a text pop-up saying, "... Was hit in the groin for 146 hit points. The pain was too much, and the poor bastard crumpled like a rag!"

Xandus117:
Maybe Bethesda intended for Fallout 3 to be more serious?

And do you think Fallout 3 will go down in history as the Number 1 SCi-Fi RPG Like the first game did?

Okay, I don't remember where I read that, but what I'm saying is that's what the first 2 games are known for. And without it, it doesnt feel like a Fallout game.

metroidgearsolid:

TheSeventhLoneWolf:

metroidgearsolid:
'Give back the naughty nightwear'. nuff said

Being verbally assaulted by random people makes me laugh, though i think the humor is in the dialouge.

I guess. but that was pretty funny.

Agreed, but 1 funny bit in the whole game? Did you play the first 2?

Well, a lot of the outright humour in the first two Fallout games was very inspired by Monty Python, and not to knock The Flying Circus, but that stuff has been done TO DEATH.

At least most of the humour in Fallout 3 is more varied; like Moira, Nathan & his wife (name escapes me), Andy Stahl, etc., and that's just from Megaton.

The towns are smaller, but you get a sense that everybody in the towns has purpose, they're not just set-pieces. And even then I did find a sizable amount.

CrysisMcGee:

metroidgearsolid:

TheSeventhLoneWolf:

metroidgearsolid:
'Give back the naughty nightwear'. nuff said

Being verbally assaulted by random people makes me laugh, though i think the humor is in the dialouge.

I guess. but that was pretty funny.

Agreed, but 1 funny bit in the whole game? Did you play the first 2?

yeah a bit. i agree that fallout 3 was lacking in the humour department and could do with taking itself a bit less seriously.

Some of the pop-culture references crack me up, Nuka-Cola factory terminals are riddled with this (so is Nuka-Cola in general I suppose). The FO3 style was a more subtle humor that was easily missed if you get what I'm saying, but was none the less hilarious when it wanted to be while leaving the game with a rather serious tone. Bethesda do this quite a bit in TES series some examples include the troll under the bridge by the nibinay basin (you would have to find it yourself as it has a funny note which I won't wreck for you), and in Morrowind the BanHammer near a tribe and the classic corpse of Peke-Uchoo (with note as well this time to confirm the Pokemon reference).

In contrast to being able to ask someone if they've ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight.

The first time I had the oppertunity to say "I always suspected Jesus had ties to organized crime." I keeled over laughing for 20 minutes.

KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life:
Well, a lot of the outright humour in the first two Fallout games was very inspired by Monty Python, and not to knock The Flying Circus, but that stuff has been done TO DEATH.

At least most of the humour in Fallout 3 is more varied; like Moira, Nathan & his wife (name escapes me), Andy Stahl, etc., and that's just from Megaton.

The towns are smaller, but you get a sense that everybody in the towns has purpose, they're not just set-pieces. And even then I did find a sizable amount.

Yes, there was quite a bit. But there was a lot of other humor. I remember talking to one of the Bosses' wives in New Reno. Funniest Conversation Ever When she said she believes in everything (Christian, though not stated in game) And I'm a Whoring, Drinking, Gambler.

Starke:
In contrast to being able to ask someone if they've ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight.

The first time I had the oppertunity to say "I always suspected Jesus had ties to organized crime." I keeled over laughing for 20 minutes.

HaHa! I never thought about it like that. I love the fact that you could sleep with both his wife and daughter.

CrysisMcGee:

KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life:
Well, a lot of the outright humour in the first two Fallout games was very inspired by Monty Python, and not to knock The Flying Circus, but that stuff has been done TO DEATH.

At least most of the humour in Fallout 3 is more varied; like Moira, Nathan & his wife (name escapes me), Andy Stahl, etc., and that's just from Megaton.

The towns are smaller, but you get a sense that everybody in the towns has purpose, they're not just set-pieces. And even then I did find a sizable amount.

Yes, there was quite a bit. But there was a lot of other humor. I remember talking to one of the Bosses' wives in New Reno. Funniest Conversation Ever When she said she believes in everything (Christian, though not stated in game) And I'm a Whoring, Drinking, Gambler.

True, there was quite a bit of non-Python humour, but the change in style of humour helped Fallout 3 acquire its own identity.

At least Harold is in all three. He's always awesome, and he even becomes kind of the savior of life as we know it, so long as you don't kill him or stunt his growth.

CrysisMcGee:

Starke:
In contrast to being able to ask someone if they've ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight.

The first time I had the oppertunity to say "I always suspected Jesus had ties to organized crime." I keeled over laughing for 20 minutes.

HaHa! I never thought about it like that. I love the fact that you could sleep with both his wife and daughter.

I've yet to play an RPG that allowed you to be as much of a smart ass as Fallout 2, anywhere.

Arcanum, Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Knights of the Old Republic 2 come close, but none of them matches that level.

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the humour in fallout 3 is much more subtle and interaction-based than the other games, purely because frankly if you replay those older games they just aren't that funny any more. i'd much rather read humorous dialogue than read about someone getting knocked out through fatal groin trauma.

Starke:
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Arcanum, Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Knights of the Old Republic 2 come close, but none of them matches that level.

now i take exception good sir, it is well known that arcanum is the best isometric rpg ever! (i am going to include baldur's gate though i want it noted it was a hard choice)

I found a piece of wood that was a melee weapon called "The Board of Education" Made me laugh quite a bit.

generic gamer:

Starke:

Arcanum, Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Knights of the Old Republic 2 come close, but none of them matches that level.

now i take exception good sir, it is well known that arcanum is the best isometric rpg ever! (i am going to include baldur's gate though i want it noted it was a hard choice)

"I think I've seen a two headed cow before someplace..."
It's a blue bunny. A blue killer bunny.

generic gamer:
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the humour in fallout 3 is much more subtle and interaction-based than the other games, purely because frankly if you replay those older games they just aren't that funny any more. i'd much rather read humorous dialogue than read about someone getting knocked out through fatal groin trauma.

More subtle? Not really. Fallout had a little subtle humor, and Fallout 3 does catch most of that, far better than the overt stuff, but, I have the wierd sense that it's kinda like the In Soviet Russia jokes, where once in a great while someone nails the actual joke (which is dependant on Russian grammer), while spouting off the meme.

The subtle stuff tended to be the juxtiposition of The City of Tomarrow tech and political identity, with the hardscrabble nature of the wasteland. Beth nails that more often than not. But it still feels like they're missing the point. Especially any time they have a character open their mouth, and spout off.

EDIT: A cookie to the first person that identifies the achevement references.

I think Fallout 2's main source of humor (pop culture references) were way to overdone.

Starke:
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i see your point but i kind of ignored the 50s culture and futuristic technology aspect and just enjoyed people getting on with life in a harsh environment. i tended to enjoy the dry humour more (like i think its in the pitt, the factory notes in the computers) not so much the culture references as the snarky jokes of people toughing it out and not really enjoying it.

my favourite characters were the world weary ones who couldn't stand your character. after playing a lifetime of rpgs it was jsut funny to enter a new world all fresh and enthusiastic like usual and have the characters roll their eyes at you. i'm much more one for human comedy, not as skwisgaar calls it "making the reference" (d'oh, i just did)

oh i don't know, fallout 3 made me chuckle quite abit. i love subtle humour.

I found it hilarious at times. I personally think you are just being nostalgic or you don't like fallout 3 for most of the reasons why people don't like halo 3, because its more popular than the previous installments and that just makes you another one in a crowd of millions

funny moments from F1 and F2

The angry spore plant near the mine... he would always curse and yell at people..LMAO
The velvet pictures of Elvis...
The midget at the boxing arena
Cafe of broken Dreams
Random encounter entering one city and you run over a Goul with your car
Sleeping with the wife and daughter of a Mob Boss
throwing rocks at kids
getting sodomized by a super mutant for loosing an arm wrestling match

ZombieGenesis:
The map did feel too empty. That was one of my main gripes. It's different when you have a point-and-fast travel style like the first two games, but when you go across the wastes by foot they can be shockingly barren. Given the change in style they could easily have included a few more cities, and a few larger towns. Locations were admittedly rather frequent but they were all so small and pointless.

Thats what I was kinda angry about too. I wanted huge ass cities and though put into them. The rivet city just felt like a dungeon.

Don't compare Fallout 3 to the originals as it really is an updated Oblivion with guns. Consider it as you would a standalone game. Personally, I think it's got it's moments.. but I definitely agree that the towns were incredibly small. However that's mostly because the older games were top-down far-far-far lower graphic games.

I always thought the barrenness of Fallout 3 helped to immerse the player (or at least me) into the game.
As for the lack of humor, F3 had its funny points. I can't think of any right now, but I'm sure they were in there.

CrysisMcGee:

Starke:
In contrast to being able to ask someone if they've ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight.

The first time I had the oppertunity to say "I always suspected Jesus had ties to organized crime." I keeled over laughing for 20 minutes.

HaHa! I never thought about it like that. I love the fact that you could sleep with both his wife and daughter.

Wait what missioon?

There is a lot of subtle humor, there's more dialogue humor (I am very entertained by the dialogue option: "I'm going to kill you... SO MUCH!") and there's random things in the environment such as garden gnomes with deatchclaw hands and organs (Yes you can find that; I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in Broken Steel)

I agree. But Fallout 3 is a lot more goofy compared to Fallout 1. 2... is meh. Took the pop culture references too far.

There was humour in Fallout 3, it's just that it was quite dark and dry. I would have liked to see more humour of the variety you're talking about, but I think they sacrificed it because it would have hampered the feel of the world. As far as the crowded cities, I think they did the best they could with what they had. Megabytes don't grow on trees. Plus, I kind of liked the feeling of emptiness. There were enough unique characters that it kept the game interesting, and not so many that they became generic, or interchangeable. I certainly think improvements could be made, but I enjoyed the experience it provided.

Yes; you are Correct.
But Harold was a better character in F3 than ANY character in the previous installments!