http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2?q=modern%20warfare

A user score of 13%???!?

This has just gone too far and is now officially harming PC gaming, not directly due to what Activision or IW are doing but because of what the PC gaming community is doing acting like this.

Look, I get it, but all the problems I have ever heard about Modern Warfare 2 on PC is that it *doesn't add* to *Certain Aspects* of the console version.

But failure to add more should not count as something against it. I still think that no one can deny that if you want to get MW2 at all... you are better off getting it on PC... yet why is it being marked down so much lower than the console versions?

I know it doesn't live up to PC standard but come on guys, gaming is universal and so should be held to a universal standard.

I put it to the forums that it is illogical to score the PC version of Modern Warfare 2 at a LOWER level than the console version just because a few aspects are merely "Not better".

You still get:
-mouse aim
-fully mappable controls
-1080p+ resolution & maximum Anti-aliasing while still 60fps (on even basic PC hardware)
-Free online multiplayer

It should be obvious to everyone that MW2 is better on PC than either console, surely it should be rated higher than the console version.

I still want dedicated servers, lean and the console commands back but that doesn't mean we as PC gamers should over-react and create this obviously wrong impression that the PC version is somehow inferior to the console version... when it simply *could* have been better.

(with all hope it will be better if IW sees sense and releases a "PC enthusiast" version)

What needs to stop is threads like these.

People can hate or like whatever they want. Your bitching about it wont change that.

I've said it before, the PC elitists are just being babies because their game isn't any better than the console version. Therefore they feel the need to whine as they're so used to being able to brag about their versions of games being better. Now that we're on equal terms, they can't handle it and spaz out.

I support IW for this really.

I'm saying this to the hateful trolls that marked down the PC version for not being "better" not all PC gamers as a whole.

GamingAwesome1:
I've said it before, the PC elitists are just being babies because their game isn't any better than the console version. Therefore they feel the need to whine as they're so used to being able to brag about their versions of games being better. Now that we're on equal terms, they can't handle it and spaz out.

I support IW for this really.

I'm saying this to the hateful trolls that marked down the PC version for not being "better" not all PC gamers as a whole.

But then why are they dumbing down the PC version? why not just improve the console version?

Yes, it's idiotic to review it 1 or something just because they made the internet play worse.

The single player is probably good 'n all and the multiplayer can be ok too.

Even though I really hate it how 90% of people at the internet complained and yet they didn't give a shit.

No dedicated servers.

But its not being compared to the console versions, its being compared to other PC games, which is how the low scoring can be justified (though that low score is more than likley the result of the game getting "spore'd")

I think this is a great post, I personally am a console gamer, but can totally agree with what you saying. I like the universal gaming message.

Good to see a positive and sensible MW2 PC related post!

TelHybrid:

GamingAwesome1:
I've said it before, the PC elitists are just being babies because their game isn't any better than the console version. Therefore they feel the need to whine as they're so used to being able to brag about their versions of games being better. Now that we're on equal terms, they can't handle it and spaz out.

I support IW for this really.

I'm saying this to the hateful trolls that marked down the PC version for not being "better" not all PC gamers as a whole.

But then why are they dumbing down the PC version? why not just improve the console version?

You got me. But this is just my explanation as to why the PC version has such a low user score.

Hey
Hey
Hey

Shut up

PS
Stop making these threads we all said it is at least a 50/100

Maybe you should make the developers jobs easier and not bitch about the games.
Eh, Treblaine?
Why don't you just walk out of the "store" and just not buy the game.
Maybe the people that voted don't care about their "gaming experience"

PC users expect a different experience in their games. Perhaps they have higher expectations. If a game doesn't meet those expectations, they dislike it. I fail to see where the problem is.

Maybe PC users expect to be able to play on LAN, or expect to be able to host a dedicated server that they can use as they wish. Maybe getting lag when you're playing with someone right next to you is just not their cup of tea. Maybe they like to have the option to choose what server to play on, instead of having it chosen for them.

Just maybe.

If they're unsatisfied with what the game offers, they're going to mark it down, it's as simple as that. I don't see why you feel you can complain about that.

Treblaine:
This has just gone too far and is now officially harming PC gaming

... Too easy...

Treblaine:
You still get:
-mouse aim
-fully mappable controls
-1080p+ resolution & maximum Anti-aliasing while still 60fps (on even basic PC hardware)
-Free online multiplayer

Well, we get a mouse... and technically, we still have to pay for internet... we just don't have to pay for some stupid service like Live... Would you like to live in a dictator controlled state? You still get food and a house. And you know, there is still transportation, oh, and it is still free to talk to people...

LordCraigus:
No dedicated servers.

The console version doesn't have dedicated servers EITHER yet they both score 96% on metacritic.

Treblaine:
-snip the wall-

Yes, it's a user score. Therefore it's PC gamers themselves who gave it that overall score. The only thing here is that you think your opinion is much more correct than theirs.

LEAVE MODREN WARFARE ALONE!!! LEAVE HER ALONE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ok, seriously, who cares? Have you been to game stop lately? This game is selling out across the entire freaking world so it's not like some pc players whining is going to suddenly halt the sales. Besides, the game does have issues, at least in single player and general design, not even counting the hooting dickheads on line.

I thought everybody was over-reacting at first too. Then I heard that they made it so the game can't be modded.

Now, I wasn't planning on getting this game in the first place (just not into MFPSs and I've tried a good share of them) but even if I was, no mods would change my mind immediately.

And while pc software is usually cheaper than the console equivalent, that doesn't seem to be the case with mw2.

Furburt:
It's not illogical! Imagine if a PC developer tried to foist PC problems on consoles?

Treblaine:

You still get:
-mouse aim
-fully mappable controls
-Free online multiplayer
version)

Yeah, like EVERY OTHER PC GAME IN THE WORLD.

I'm not buying it myself, it shows the start of a bad trend. I'm buying Left 4 Dead 2, a good PC and console game that is good on both.

Agreed. There are still a ridiculous amount of people playing CSS on dedicated servers, 5 years after it's release. Hell, my little brother has his own dedicated server for his clan activities. These things are standard on PC shooters. Their absence suggests that it's all about the money, not about creating a long lasting community.

GamingAwesome1:
I've said it before, the PC elitists are just being babies because their game isn't any better than the console version. Therefore they feel the need to whine as they're so used to being able to brag about their versions of games being better. Now that we're on equal terms, they can't handle it and spaz out.

I support IW for this really.

I'm saying this to the hateful trolls that marked down the PC version for not being "better" not all PC gamers as a whole.

oh, dont say that, they will think you're trolling.

but you're right though, this bitching, and yes, thats all it really is, just bitching [or pissing into the wind, whichever you prefer] needs to stop.

If you dont like what they took out of MW2, go back and play the first one, no one is forcing you to play it.

and when you think about it, it should be just that simple to all the rabid fanboys, however they feel the need to tell a game company that wants a game to be an equal across all platforms that their platform needs special treatment, after all who wants to play the actual game when there are 40 zombie mods available for it?

Treblaine:

LordCraigus:
No dedicated servers.

The console version doesn't have dedicated servers EITHER yet they both score 96% on metacritic.

What was that again? "You don't know what you've got until it's gone"?

Furburt:

GamingAwesome1:
I've said it before, the PC elitists are just being babies because their game isn't any better than the console version.

But thats the thing, P2P just doesn't work on PC. Neither does the forced hosting, my ISP has a rule against it. It would be fine if they were equal, but they aren't, the PC is now definitely the inferior platform.

And this is unacceptable, why?

Orange Box, L4D, Counter Strike. They have all had inferior console versions and I've never bat an eyelid. Now when the console version has the upper hand everyone freaks out.

GamingAwesome1:
I've said it before, the PC elitists are just being babies because their game isn't any better than the console version. Therefore they feel the need to whine as they're so used to being able to brag about their versions of games being better. Now that we're on equal terms, they can't handle it and spaz out.

That was my thinking of this whole situation.

Infinity Ward wanted to have the same game available for everyone. Whether you're playing on the PC, 360, or PS3, you're getting the exact same game, with differences being minor and probably controller related. No-one console or platform has a huge advantage over another, thus putting everyone on an even playing field.

I love it.

To me, this is a step closer to cross platform gaming, which is something that only Shadowrun did. And that's a shame, because Shadowrun was terrible (For me, at least). But here is a fine example of a game that's the same for everyone, everywhere. It wouldn't take much to have PC gamers playing with 360 gamers! How awesome would that be?
But that's kind of off topic.

To come back on topic, let me say that I understand why PC gamers are getting upset. I totally get it. But I also understand why IW and Activition made some of the changes and cuts they did. It's a more even playing field. Now the guy who got it for the 360 or PS3 won't be saying "Aww man, the PC version has those great MODs! And way more people per server! And their DLC is free!" No, now it's even for everyone.
Obviously those who have been pampered won't like these changes, but for the rest of us: It's just fair.

Dilla:
I think this is a great post, I personally am a console gamer, but can totally agree with what you saying. I like the universal gaming message.

Good to see a positive and sensible MW2 PC related post!

Shouldn't you be more annoyed that Console games wern't raised to the standard that a PC game is normally put at?
I wouldn't see this as a positive post, I'd see it more as a "wait: why is being the same as a console game seen as being downgraded?". And there is one answer to that: PC games normally have more added to them. The solution? Complain to the companies that have previously downgraded Console Ports and get them to make Console games to the same standard as a PC game normally would be.

Treblaine:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2?q=modern%20warfare

A user score of 13%???!?

That high? I expected the "totally unbiased" PC reviewers to give it less than double figures.

Rabbid fanboys? Excuse me for demanding the capabilities of my PC be USED.

Every single shooter released on the PC has these "capabilities"(Being able to talk to your own team, dedicated servers etc) because the PC is capable of doing them. The consoles aren't.

So please, tell me, why shouldn't the PC use 100% of it's "usability"? Do explain. I find it a very stupid reason to remove some of the most basic things any PC shooter has.

Why should the PC now be limited so that all versions be the same?(Console and PC).

Either use 100% of it's usability, or just develop the game for the consoles. How 'bout that?

Baby Tea:

GamingAwesome1:
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Same as my other post just above this one: Surely it'd be better for all gamers if Console games were upgraded to a standard that PC games are? That way, "PC Elitists" are still happy, and console gamers get a better game, making them happy.

Why has it "GOT TO STOP?" Are you scared people won't buy the most over-hyped game ever?

Er. I don't really care. Nor do i believe any else should. Just buy the bloody game and play it how it is. You'll get nowhere by complaining - Unless you're one of those goddamn lucky L4D2 boycotters.

I do also believe that if they had created the game with dedicated servers ready to be implemented and whatnot: THEN decided to cut them out of the final version, that that is a little out of order. But it's still Activisions call. Or whoevers. Not yours. Do what you will as long as it doesn't go affecting anyone else.

Treblaine:
It should be obvious to everyone that MW2 is better on PC than either console, surely it should be rated higher than the console version.

Duuuude. People so aren't gonna be liking that. Put on your flame retardant suit and have a fire extinguisher at the ready.

Gaming is far from universal otherwise there would be one universal gaming machine. Try running Sims 3 on a P3 with 512 of RAM... what's that, you can't? Well not so universal is it.

I, as a consumer, am of the opinion that any product should strive to offer the best value at that price point. Now the reason people, especially PC gamers, are so pissed is because MW2 does not offer the best value for money at the price point. It offers inferior value for money compared to it's predeccesor. Does this make it a bad game inherently; no. Does this make it a rip-off; yes.

Also if IW wanted to make the experience equal across all platforms why not go to the effort of supporting mods on console and dedicated servers for consoles? Because they are catering to the lowest common denominator. This is OK business but you cannot expect people not to complain or find this unacceptable.

Samirat:
PC users expect a different experience in their games. Perhaps they have higher expectations. If a game doesn't meet those expectations, they dislike it. I fail to see where the problem is.

Maybe PC users expect to be able to play on LAN, or expect to be able to host a dedicated server that they can use as they wish. Maybe getting lag when you're playing with someone right next to you is just not their cup of tea. Maybe they like to have the option to choose what server to play on, instead of having it chosen for them.

Just maybe.

If they're unsatisfied with what the game offers, they're going to mark it down, it's as simple as that. I don't see why you feel you can complain about that.

Well I see what you are getting at, PC gaming not only expects a higher standard from other games but the very nature of the hardware makes it easier to achieve.

But is it realistic for us to merely hold PC gaming to a higher standard? I guess that would have to be the case, if the admittedly gimped console versions of, say, COD4 get 96% which is so close to 100% then what could you score the PC version of COD4 that has Dedicated Servers...

I suppose with a universal gaming perspective if we take the Console scores as the benchmark then all the PC versions would be crowded around the 99-to-100% mark.

So MW2 on PC getting a score of 89% compared to 96% on consoles is not so unfair if you look at it that way.

But come on guys, it is just embarrassing people putting a user score of only 13%, it just makes us look petty.