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Paperboy
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I just got off the playstation, immensely frustrated at quite a few aspects of the game. I've been frustrated at other games before, but this just seemed ridiculous. I'm talking mostly about the Pave Low. It has to be among the most overpowered things in gaming history. It stays in the air for minutes at a time, can shoot in 2 different directions at once, kills you almost instantly, and is piloted by super computers. Seriously, the amount of time between when you step out of cover, and when you die, is probably around 0.2 seconds. It's instantaneous. Sometimes you don't even need to step out of cover, It just knows where you are and shoots you through walls. Destroying it is a ridiculous task, as you need to stand in the open for around 3-5 seconds to get a lock and fire, and this is after stumbling through the map like an idiot trying to find it. while also not getting killed by enemy players.

Also forgot to mention that the Pave Low, or all air support for that matter, on maps like Wasteland, and Afghan, should only last half as long, because of the utter lack of cover. Getting killed 5+ times in less than a minute by a chopper sucks.

Paperboy
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Accidentaly posted before finishing. Does anybody else agree, or think that some other aspect of the online gameplay is way unbalanced?

Infamous Scribbler
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Thats why its given to you when you get an 11 kill streak, which in itself can be hard to get so the person that gets it deservers it.

The one thing that infuriates me in MW2 online is shittalkers (you know, those idiots that decide that when they kill you they have to CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING SAYING OMG N00B WHAT A FAGGOT etc) grrrr

Copy Clerk
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Idea; Cold Blooded.

Does that help?

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The one thing that infuriates me in MW2 online is shittalkers (you know, those idiots that decide that when they kill you they have to CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING SAYING OMG N00B WHAT A FAGGOT etc) grrrr

Pretty much every online game, unfortunately.

OP: I hated the MP, but thats because I played the PC version.

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Paperboy
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Zenode:
Thats why its given to you when you get an 11 kill streak, which in itself can be hard to get so the person that gets it deservers it.

If that was the only way to get it than that would be fine, but unfortunatly they show up pretty frequently from care packages, which is only a 3 kill streak with hardline.

And yeah, people like that are just annoying.

Gone Gonzo
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My recomendations for Pave Low extermination? Cold blooded and a Stinger/Javelin.

Problem solved.

Yes, the game is horrendously unbalanced (and riddled with campers) just like it's predacessor but I still feel it's at least a minor improvement over the original (I'm just happy I'm not dying by a grenade blast every five seconds).

Gone Gonzo
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I wouldn't say the pavelow is a problem, one stinger missile (with stopping power pro) does the trick.
Things that bug me are:

The quite frankly EPIC number of campers.
The hip fire crosshair size, Especially when using dual shotguns, the shots always go straight to the centre, even though the crosshair's pretty much the size of the screen.
Last/Final Stand is now pointless, there's a short amount of time whilst falling to the ground where you can't shoot, and you don't have enough health for it to be worthwhile. You just get gunned down the same as any other.

Yea sorry I picked up on a lot.

Beat Writer
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Zenode:
Thats why its given to you when you get an 11 kill streak, which in itself can be hard to get so the person that gets it deservers it.

The one thing that infuriates me in MW2 online is shittalkers (you know, those idiots that decide that when they kill you they have to CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING SAYING OMG N00B WHAT A FAGGOT etc) grrrr

I don't mind then they are the one talking to a corps, but i have had someone message me telling me i was a noob, so to respond i simply agreed and asked him if he had a boyfriend because i like it when guy talk drity to me. That shut him up and made all of my friends laugh. so a win win i'd say.

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I don't reckon the Pave Low is overpowered, the Chopper Gunner is.... That shit kills you indoors... But anyway. That doesn't annoy me. Hours of lobby jumping does.... We need a fucking region lock here...

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Gone Gonzo
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Use 'Cold Blooded' perk or hide in a building until its gone.

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HappyPillz:
I just got off the playstation, immensely frustrated at quite a few aspects of the game. I've been frustrated at other games before, but this just seemed ridiculous. I'm talking mostly about the Pave Low. It has to be among the most overpowered things in gaming history. It stays in the air for minutes at a time, can shoot in 2 different directions at once, kills you almost instantly, and is piloted by super computers. Seriously, the amount of time between when you step out of cover, and when you die, is probably around 0.2 seconds. It's instantaneous. Sometimes you don't even need to step out of cover, It just knows where you are and shoots you through walls. Destroying it is a ridiculous task, as you need to stand in the open for around 3-5 seconds to get a lock and fire, and this is after stumbling through the map like an idiot trying to find it. while also not getting killed by enemy players.

Thusly why you pull out an AT4 or Stinger Missile. It only takes 2 missiles to shoot it down.

Or just get cold blooded, it can't even see you then, and thusly can't shoot you.

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I forgot to say... Only bit of blancing that genuinely and often pisses me off is the duel weilding of the last shotgun. The winchester... It is overpowered as fuck, one hit kill at roughly the same range as an SMG.... It is okay when it is by itself, but no way you should be able to duel weild it... Even if it is real cool.

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Gone Gonzo
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It's just another aspect of the game that makes you change your tactics. You either hide or shoot it down.

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Zenode:
Thats why its given to you when you get an 11 kill streak, which in itself can be hard to get so the person that gets it deservers it.

The one thing that infuriates me in MW2 online is shittalkers (you know, those idiots that decide that when they kill you they have to CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING SAYING OMG N00B WHAT A FAGGOT etc) grrrr

9 Killstreak.
All the killstreaks in this game are unbalanced, a guy calls in a harrier AND a chopper gunner at the same time spawn camping me? Fuck that shit.
The finally fixed the issue with some guns (Though, who the fuck put the M16 back in?!) yet they fucked up with the killstreaks. The maps are also cock.

Gone Gonzo
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Unless you have a headset and play in a clan wich I don't, team deathmatch is almost unplayable.

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Casual Shinji:
Unless you have a headset and play in a clan wich I don't, team deathmatch is almost unplayable.

Most modes are, I got raped by a clan of campers lastnight on High Rise.

Gone Gonzo
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I've been killed in under a second in some Hardcore Search and Destroy matches. That was fun.

Copy Clerk
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I gotta say that I hate the nuke. I really do. I've had it a few times, and unless we are losing, and the game is almost over, I wont use it. Some retards like to activate it 1/2 way through a game and yeah, just pisses me off.

Beat Writer
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All of these complains bring me back to a time when IW said this game was going to be so balanced that it would look like a see saw without the pivot point. wounder if the tossed that out with all of the "extra" computer things, or maybe it is so balanced we can't even tell O.O

Copy Clerk
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I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Paperboy
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MilkyFresh:
I don't reckon the Pave Low is overpowered, the Chopper Gunner is.... That shit kills you indoors... But anyway. That doesn't annoy me. Hours of lobby jumping does.... We need a fucking region lock here...

I don't mind the chopper gunner that much actually, because it's affected by human error, thus easier to shoot down or hide from.

L3m0n_L1m3:

Thusly why you pull out an AT4 or Stinger Missile. It only takes 2 missiles to shoot it down.

Or just get cold blooded, it can't even see you then, and thusly can't shoot you.

But you only get one missle per life, which means you need to die to kill it.

MilkyFresh:
I forgot to say... Only bit of blancing that genuinely and often pisses me off is the duel weilding of the last shotgun. The winchester... It is overpowered as fuck, one hit kill at roughly the same range as an SMG.... It is okay when it is by itself, but no way you should be able to duel weild it... Even if it is real cool.

That's the one thing in this game that pisses me off as much as Pave Lows. People who dual wield the Ranger or Model 1887 always seem to win a confrontation, no matter who hits first, or at what range you are shooting.

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Red|Zombie:
I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Its unbalanced as fuck.
If I have a stronger weapon with stopping power and I shoot first, I expect the fucker to die, instead he kills me...
Fuck This Game.

Copy Clerk
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imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:
I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Its unbalanced as fuck.
If I have a stronger weapon with stopping power and I shoot first, I expect the fucker to die, instead he kills me...
Fuck This Game.

I don't have that problem on PC *shrug* Maybe it's lag? Or skill deficiency? :P

Copy Clerk
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HappyPillz:

MilkyFresh:
I don't reckon the Pave Low is overpowered, the Chopper Gunner is.... That shit kills you indoors... But anyway. That doesn't annoy me. Hours of lobby jumping does.... We need a fucking region lock here...

I don't mind the chopper gunner that much actually, because it's affected by human error, thus easier to shoot down or hide from.

L3m0n_L1m3:

Thusly why you pull out an AT4 or Stinger Missile. It only takes 2 missiles to shoot it down.

Or just get cold blooded, it can't even see you then, and thusly can't shoot you.

But you only get one missle per life, which means you need to die to kill it.

MilkyFresh:
I forgot to say... Only bit of blancing that genuinely and often pisses me off is the duel weilding of the last shotgun. The winchester... It is overpowered as fuck, one hit kill at roughly the same range as an SMG.... It is okay when it is by itself, but no way you should be able to duel weild it... Even if it is real cool.

That's the one thing in this game that pisses me off as much as Pave Lows. People who dual wield the Ranger or Model 1887 always seem to win a confrontation, no matter who hits first, or at what range you are shooting.

Also you get two shots with the stinger each life.

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Red|Zombie:

imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:
I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Its unbalanced as fuck.
If I have a stronger weapon with stopping power and I shoot first, I expect the fucker to die, instead he kills me...
Fuck This Game.

I don't have that problem on PC *shrug* Maybe it's lag? Or skill deficiency? :P

I shoot him first and I die? How is that skill deficiency genius.
Also, why he fuck are us Aussies always shunned? Why must we be fucked over in every online game?

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imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:

imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:
I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Its unbalanced as fuck.
If I have a stronger weapon with stopping power and I shoot first, I expect the fucker to die, instead he kills me...
Fuck This Game.

I don't have that problem on PC *shrug* Maybe it's lag? Or skill deficiency? :P

I shoot him first and I die? How is that skill deficiency genius.
Also, why he fuck are us Aussies always shunned? Why must we be fucked over in every online game?

How are we shunned? :o

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Red|Zombie:

imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:

imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:
I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Its unbalanced as fuck.
If I have a stronger weapon with stopping power and I shoot first, I expect the fucker to die, instead he kills me...
Fuck This Game.

I don't have that problem on PC *shrug* Maybe it's lag? Or skill deficiency? :P

I shoot him first and I die? How is that skill deficiency genius.
Also, why he fuck are us Aussies always shunned? Why must we be fucked over in every online game?

How are we shunned? :o

We are always put in overseas servers which cause us to lag like hell.
God fucking dammnit I hate this game so much at the moment, why all of a sudden are there legions of campers?!

Copy Clerk
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HappyPillz:
But you only get one missle per life, which means you need to die to kill it.

Well not only do you actually get two stinger tubes per life, but that first missile doesn't actually hit, the Pave Low just dumped flares and you missed. If you and another person fire a stinger at it, one after the other (second stinger fires after the flares are useless) the chopper will die. The same is possible when shooting down an AC-130.

And it isn't a good idea to carry a stinger on your back with your normal class, just make a dedicated Cold-Blooded MANPADS class with an LMG and a Stinger and when you die to the air support just switch classes and bring that shit down.

Gone Gonzo
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CAW4:
Idea; Cold Blooded.

Does that help?

Ninja'd.

Infamous Scribbler
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Why are people complaining about campers? They must be the dual wielding SMG 'noobs' who cry when a sniper isn't doing the same! And if a guy is hiding around a corner and kills you then it should trigger the learning part of your brain to stop sprinting everywhere!

I've never seen a nuke though...its hard enough getting an AC-130 for me :p

Muckraker
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Davey Woo:
I wouldn't say the pavelow is a problem, one stinger missile (with stopping power pro) does the trick.
Things that bug me are:

The quite frankly EPIC number of campers.
The hip fire crosshair size, Especially when using dual shotguns, the shots always go straight to the centre, even though the crosshair's pretty much the size of the screen.
Last/Final Stand is now pointless, there's a short amount of time whilst falling to the ground where you can't shoot, and you don't have enough health for it to be worthwhile. You just get gunned down the same as any other.

Yea sorry I picked up on a lot.

1887 Akimbo and the amount of shit it fucks up

imahobbit4062:

Red|Zombie:
I don't really think it's unbalanced at all, I love the game >.>

Its unbalanced as fuck.
If I have a stronger weapon with stopping power and I shoot first, I expect the fucker to die, instead he kills me...
Fuck This Game.

Shotgun to the face and he lives but he can knife me?

ANYWAY

I traded my copy in and added $10 and got L4D2 less stress (unless I "Quick Match" a Campaign)

Personally CoD2,3,+5 seem to have been the best... CoD7 better be about laser weapons

Pulitzer Laureate
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The only problem I seem to always have is people trying to steal my care packages that "I" call in, and then when I take "My" package I get called a N*****, F*****, B**** and every other bad word they can think of. I understand if I get a Emergency Drop and I tell everyone I got something comeing in and you can take 1 or 2 that I don't want or I get killed and I don't want the other side to get my stuff. But I just find it funny that I call in 1 package (Just 1) and I see 3 others waiting for it to drop like I am.

Ah...Online Multiplayer.
You gotta love it.

Paperboy
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There are definitely worse problems than this but all the ones that I can think are related to the people playing the game, and not the actual game itself.

Every gun, perk etc has it's drawbacks, but sometimes people abuse these. I mean I went up against a whole team of campers today. Every single one of them had those duel shotguns and a shield on his back for protection.

Pave low can at least be taken down.. it doesn't shoot THAT fast at you, you do get a slight chance as long as you don't run right into it's path.. which some people do choose to do :/

Gone Gonzo
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Having to listen to all the people on there who have the immaturity of an 8 year old mixed in with homophobia and some dumbassery. Those are the people I hate when I play online games, especially Modern Warfare 2 online.

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