What's up with all of the racism, misogyny, and homophobia during multi-player play?

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You know, when I get on X-Box LIVE nowadays, I find myself muting about half of the people I play with, primarily because they start spouting offensive statements over the mic. This past week, it got really bad. Bad enough that on a couple nights, my gaming experience was ruined entirely.

So, I wonder, what is up with that?

I mean, walking around in daily life, I don't see that kind of behavior. Not even close. If people said the things I hear on X-Box LIVE out loud and in public, it would be so offensive that it would probably make the news.

So, is it the anonymity of the headset? The freedom of having your face hidden and being able to say what you want to say? Or is it that a certain kind of person is attracted to a certain type of game and I'm happening to hear it?

What do you think?

Also, what I find interesting is that people typically go for racism comments first, homophobic comments second, and then misogyny after that. Why is racism up front and the first thing that people go for? Why not homophobic comments first? Why not sexism first?

Probably because it allows players to spout obscenities without being identified and yet be too lazy to actually type on a keyboard. As for the reasons racism etc is the weapon of choice I have no real answer... Perhaps it just "is". Like Hipsters congregating at coffee shops, tools congregate on Xbox Live.

Off topic: My favourite bit of racism was an extremely blunt and loud (but not shouted) "I'm sorry... I don't speak coon". Seriously who does that (other than trolls and possibly "tough" children).

You know what I do to counter those people who try to flame/harass me? I laugh. Real loud or just in a humilating and taunting manner. They cannot stand it and bitch even louder over the mic, thinking I will listen.

Gears of War 2 has this alot, especially if you kicked their asses. Just laugh, it makes it more enjoyable for you and the rest of people who are against such dicks in the oppossing or same team!

ehh it depends on the people, some people just love talking "trash" trash to other people, regardless of anything.

me personally? i dont do it usually at all, unless the person/team is a doucher, then i troll the fuck out of them. (non racially/sexial/etc... comments)

Straying Bullet:
You know what I do to counter those people who try to flame/harass me? I laugh. Real loud or just in a humilating and taunting manner. They cannot stand it and bitch even louder over the mic, thinking I will listen.

Gears of War 2 has this alot, especially if you kicked their asses. Just laugh, it makes it more enjoyable for you and the rest of people who are against such dicks in the oppossing or same team!

Oh yes, I did that once on a kiddie speakin ebonics callin everyone "Fags" and "Noobs" whenever he got his ass kicked then I kicked his ass repeatedly several times in a row and he started callin me all kinds of things I just simply laughed out loud in a mocking manner wich had him raging wich made me laugh even more, soon the entire server were laughing at him. Good times. Works too, he left and good times were had by all.

i wouldnt confuse genuine homophobia and racism with antagonism. Many of these gamers seem to be trying to irritate and anger the other players. The best way would be to choose the most offensive choice of words possible.

EDIT: Nevermind. Not touching this one.

Kenko:

Straying Bullet:
You know what I do to counter those people who try to flame/harass me? I laugh. Real loud or just in a humilating and taunting manner. They cannot stand it and bitch even louder over the mic, thinking I will listen.

Gears of War 2 has this alot, especially if you kicked their asses. Just laugh, it makes it more enjoyable for you and the rest of people who are against such dicks in the oppossing or same team!

Oh yes, I did that once on a kiddie speakin ebonics callin everyone "Fags" and "Noobs" whenever he got his ass kicked then I kicked his ass repeatedly several times in a row and he started callin me all kinds of things I just simply laughed out loud in a mocking manner wich had him raging wich made me laugh even more, soon the entire server were laughing at him. Good times. Works too, he left and good times were had by all.

Exactly my point.

You keep having a good time by the most powerful thing a human has to combat depression/sadness. A good laughter. There is nothing better than actually use the opposite reaction to someone who just insulted you. This is called reverse psychology? Correct me if I am wrong.

Instead of hoping you will lower yourself to the level of an idiot and argue or curse back, you just laugh. This is when people realize you instantly degraded them beneath you and their bitching will only cause to laugh even more. You never lose unless you cannot laugh, which I cannot imagine!

I highly doubt they use that kind of language in front of people.

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Explains it right there. Also, some people get riled up easily in video games - so while they may be civil in real life, gaming will bring out the worst in them.

Once again, I mute literally everyone other than my friends when doing multiplayer. Maybe you guys should do the same.

I'm so glad Reach has the new settings for multiplayer. I haven't had any of this shit talk yet!

I hope more games pick up on it.

But yeah, the reason why some people act this way is old news. OhJohnNo above me has a nice picture to explain it.

Who gives a shit? There's nothing you can do about it so deal with it.

Okay, enough is enough.

Am I the only one to never experience any of this during multiplayer?

Or is it blown way out of proportion?

I keep hearing about it like it's an accepted fact.

OhJohnNo:
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Explains it right there. Also, some people get riled up easily in video games - so while they may be civil in real life, gaming will bring out the worst in them.

Once again, I mute literally everyone other than my friends when doing multiplayer. Maybe you guys should do the same.

Damn you, I was just about to post that pic too.
You sir just beat me in interneting.

just mute em and let some one else deal with their stupidity

you wont believe the answer but this is 100 percent why people poke at insecurities online...

to win

it's part of the mental gameplay (aka. you're normally good at game x, but with certain people around/ in certain environments/ with certain mindsets, you suck). By psychologically breaking down an opponent, you can cause him to play off of his emotions to make him go on tilt.

I used to do this when playing face to face multiplayer and have gotten my ass kicked for it, but it works.

wammnebu:
i wouldnt confuse genuine homophobia and racism with antagonism. Many of these gamers seem to be trying to irritate and anger the other players. The best way would be to choose the most offensive choice of words possible.

^^^ this guy gets it. Trash talking is part of multi-player gaming. Call someone a derogatory name or telling them that their mother is a $2 whore is part of gaining a competitive advantage. You ever notice that when you play badly and get frustrated that you seem to just continue on your downward path toward ultimate suckyness (aka go 3-17 on your k-d ratio)

Getting someone angry or annoyed distracts them from performing at an optimum level and gives you (the trash talker) an advantage.

Plus trolling is fun (you know it is) whether its bothering your older/younger siblings or that anonymous dude on the internet.

Edit: ninja'd by 3 minutes because of my slow typing

slipknot4:

OhJohnNo:
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Explains it right there. Also, some people get riled up easily in video games - so while they may be civil in real life, gaming will bring out the worst in them.

Once again, I mute literally everyone other than my friends when doing multiplayer. Maybe you guys should do the same.

Damn you, I was just about to post that pic too.
You sir just beat me in interneting.

Cant get anymore trueful than that...

Getting people angry in games can be funny sometimes (I will confess I have had my moments of being a griefer) and as a general rule, race/sex/nationalist and homophobic statements are an easy way of getting a rise out of people (sometimes they don't even have to make sense in context, I have on numerous occasions been on the recieving end of racial abuse such as the 'N' word and other such things...despite being white).

It's just the way people are, the best you can do is try to be the bigger person and not sink to their level.

Anonymity is the word you are looking for.

Cassita:
Okay, enough is enough.

Am I the only one to never experience any of this during multiplayer?

Or is it blown way out of proportion?

I keep hearing about it like it's an accepted fact.

Depends what games you play, if you play MMOs and stuff like that it happens less and less because it is monitored. It happens a lot in FPS's and games where servers aren't supervised as much or people just don't care about the obscenities used.

That's why I stick to Parties. I pretty much only play multiplayer games with friends, so it's not like we're missing out on important tactical communication, because we're talking to each other in the party.

The few people in our team but not in our party are probably in a party themselves anyway. Only game I seem to find where people actually use game chat frequently and properly/efficiently is L4D2.

On the rare occasions I don't avoid or mute these types of players I try to have a little fun at their expense. Try saying nice things or talking at length about something totally irrelevant like how to make banana bread or speculating on the average number of spots on ladybugs.

It's the anonymous factor really, that's the only explanation.

People lose, get frustrated, and vent. simple.

OhJohnNo:
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Explains it right there. Also, some people get riled up easily in video games - so while they may be civil in real life, gaming will bring out the worst in them.

Once again, I mute literally everyone other than my friends when doing multiplayer. Maybe you guys should do the same.

I learned this, ironically, when I didn't have a PS3 to learn it on. It's the same reason that people can be colossal dicks on Youtube; anonymity is a bitch.

But anyway, I encountered a pair of tough guy kids who mocked my voice on PSN while playing ModNation Racers. I tried to bear it, but after two races I ended up rage-quitting because I couldn't fucking stand their teasing anymore. But that's really the only instance I remember; typically I've found that PSN is much better about this sort of thing than Xbox Live.

Its all a form of trolling. Don't feed them.

people who play online are stupid. what do you expect? intelligent conversations?

OhJohnNo:
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Explains it right there. Also, some people get riled up easily in video games - so while they may be civil in real life, gaming will bring out the worst in them.

Once again, I mute literally everyone other than my friends when doing multiplayer. Maybe you guys should do the same.

Yeah, Wikipedia calls this the Online Dis-inhibition Effect. My thought on the matter is that it's actually prevalent WITHOUT an audience as well (if not more so; how many of us have screamed at the computer after the so-called cheating AI...well, cheats?), but is only observable (and therefore codified) when there IS one.

EqualNOpposite:

OhJohnNo:
image

Explains it right there. Also, some people get riled up easily in video games - so while they may be civil in real life, gaming will bring out the worst in them.

Once again, I mute literally everyone other than my friends when doing multiplayer. Maybe you guys should do the same.

Yeah, Wikipedia calls this the Online Dis-inhibition Effect. My thought on the matter is that it's actually prevalent WITHOUT an audience as well (if not more so; how many of us have screamed at the computer after the so-called cheating AI...well, cheats?), but is only observable (and therefore codified) when there IS one.

I've never shouted at the computer, but I do have heated words with my iPhone after failing to beat an Angry Birds level for the 22833254642346th time. Pig-fuckers..

SpireOfFire:
people who play online are stupid. what do you expect? intelligent conversations?

Way to stereotype there.

I will correct you: The most vocal of those who play online are stupid. The intelligent ones generally don't talk to anyone, except their friends.

Well most people are really pent up...but are to shy/stupid/ect to say what they feel and have the balls to stand behind what the believe in so the internet is kinda like a shield that lets them say/do what ever they want. so what im trying to say is the internet supports people being pussys. At least until I build a teleporter into my headset so I can reach though it and smack the little durp faces on the other end :/

Some people don't get the art of trash talking, and think that if they just pick random slurs then eventually they'll find one that sticks. The best and only cure is to induce a ragequit by shooting them in the head and mocking their ineffectual insulting skills.

Of course this has the unfortunate side effect of perpetuating the stereotype that everybody who plays games is a 14 year old 'human' with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

when it happens a usually laugh, though more often i talk to them REALLY politely, while i do my best to grief them till they rage quit.

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