What are your thoughts on Fallout: Las Vegas?
Crazy awesome! I am playing it whenever I can!
33.6% (284)
33.6% (284)
Its really good.
28.6% (242)
28.6% (242)
Its good.
15% (127)
15% (127)
Its ok.
8.9% (75)
8.9% (75)
Its mediocre.
6% (51)
6% (51)
Its bad.
1.2% (10)
1.2% (10)
Its really bad.
1.4% (12)
1.4% (12)
Its horrible, I hate it completely!
3.4% (29)
3.4% (29)
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I bought Fallout: Las Vegas after hearing all of the praise about the game. And after having invested a considerable chunk of the day into the game it has almost put me to sleep.

Don't get me wrong, I knew in advance what kind of game this was and I was never expecting any kind of a fast paced shooter or anything, but the game is just bloody boring. There are a number of reasons for this, for starters the story feels dull and it never really held my attention not counting the first few min during the opening cutscenes. Another reason is that the characters feel and look very bland, dull and uninteresting thanks to the stiff and lifeless character models, the highly mediocre graphics and the sub-par voice acting.

And speaking of graphics, the game looks pretty ugly. The actual game world is empty, bland and lifeless (and don't give me the "but the game takes place after a nuclear war and that makes it ok" excuse. The plot/setting doesn't justify throwing the player into a series of dull uninteresting environments) which means that there is no real satisfaction to be had in exploring the game world. If anything it just becomes a chore having to wander through it. The interfaces are also confusing and annoying, that arm-computer thing you carry feels overly complex, its not that I can't understand it, its just so tedious to use.

Another thing that I just can't stand is the slow pace of the game. Yes I know this is a RPG first and a shooter second, but that doesn't mean I should be spending most of my time just walking around from A to B while doing nothing exiting at all. I have started to wander how long the promised "50+ or so hours of gameplay" I heard about would actually last if the game removed all of the annoying "walking around and figuring out where to go" parts and just left the actual interesting gameplay parts.

And wtf is up with guns being so inaccurate if you fire them yourself? I know you are suppose to level up to become better with the guns and stuff but it just feels so outrageous when you line up a perfect headshot and yet mess anyways simply because of how guns/stats work in the game.

Also, bugs.

Don't get me wrong, if you love the game then Kudos to you, but I for one regret buying the game.

Anyways, I will probably sell the game back to the store and hopefully get some of my money back.

What are your thoughts on Fallout: Las Vegas?

It doesn't have the charm Fallout 3 did, and it's way harder. There's just something, missing.

However, I do still like the game. I'm just not crazy about it.

Much better and less boring and more RPG-like than Fallout 3. They did a great job on revitalizing the franchise.

More Fallout 3? Yes please.

I like it. The walking around is actually pretty nice for me. There's usually enough in the world to keep me interested too. It can be monsters, NPC's or some broken down shop that looks like it needs some looting done. I don't get any bugs on the game and i just downloaded a mod that made my game run perfectly on the high settings so i don't have any technical problems. The only real problem i have is that the game world seems smaller to me. I checked the map and it looked smaller than fallout 3. I'm not sure though.

Well, clearly you've been playing the wrong game. Fallout:New Vegas is awesome. I spent most of my time today playing it (only got released today in the UK).

I like Fallout 3, so I like this, but not enough stuff has been added to make it much different. It feels like a glorified expansion pack. Still fun, just nothing to write home about.

I got New Vegas and while I do like it I don't think its as good as Fallout 3 was. But with Fallout 3 I hated it at first but then it became one of my favorite games, so I'll give New Vegas a chance before I go back to doing everything in Fallout 3.

I would love it a lot more if it didn't erase my saves every time it crashed.

As it is, compared to 3 New Vegas forces you to rely more on your skill at using weapons than with what uber-stat increasing items and books you've collected- same goes for perks, although some of them are back the same as before.

EDIT: They moved flame-based wepaons to being energy weapons and gave me a grenade launcher, so I'm pretty happy with the game overall- just not right now.

I prefer this much more than I did fallout 3 even though I loved fallout 3 and played it to death.
I am finding it very difficult and do agree with you about the graphics being very mediocre on the consoles

Hardcore_gamer:
If anything it just becomes a chore having to wander through it.

just wanting to check with you as well you do know you can fast travel to any location you have already been to cutting down on the amount on travelling you have to do? Because some people I have spoken to don't realise that.

In my opinion though I am loving the game at the moment despite it being very buggy and can't wait for them to be fixed.

The game feels like something I've played before. Oblivion and Fallout 3 come to mind. The engine still has the same bugs it's had for years, and has random crashes, hang-ups, and slow-downs.

I loved Fallout 3 and forgave its crashes because I wasn't playing it on a supported operating system. New Vegas supports my OS, and still has the same issues. Maybe my computer wasn't the problem.

Vivace-Vivian:
It doesn't have the charm Fallout 3 did, and it's way harder. There's just something, missing.

However, I do still like the game. I'm just not crazy about it.

yeah i agree and btw i suspect the missing thing is called bethesda

I kind of agree with you. I've gotten to New Vegas and am bored and angry at it. The long stretches of wandering when I can't kill many of the creatures becomes tedious. The decisions in the games aren't as black and white, like when you

But in New Vegas my circumstances left 3 out of the 4 or 2 out of the 3 casino cashiers dead, So I have to play at the Gamorrah. Both the Tops and Ultra-Luxe are better. I also can't fin any ammo or weapons, so I am being F'ed in the A by most enemies.

Edit: I do like the game, although it is kind of a tough love sort of game, and can get aggravating at times. Can't wait for MMM and Level Cap & Skill Cap workarounds, and maybe UPP. And Something to let you play after the end. When those come around I can say that I'll love the game to death. It did that to FO3.

Do you ever try to write about anything positive? Each time I open up one of your threads you're complaining about one game or another.

Personally, I love the game. Apocalypse Vegas Style is pretty snazzy.

Well, I'm loving it. But then, I also love the bleak as hell setting. One of my most favorite things to do is happen upon some busted up gas station or convenient store, and scavenge around in it. It makes it feel more like I am in the wastes that way.

And I have been enjoying the main story, and all the side stories. I loved Come Fly With Me. And now even my companions have stories. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

I find it amazing that you bought the game and still refer to it by the wrong name

#nitpicking

I'm actually prefering New Vegas to Fallout, and haven't had any really bugs apart from sometimes crashing after several hours of play, and a bugged console in the suite at the Lucky 38.

Vivace-Vivian:
It doesn't have the charm Fallout 3 did, and it's way harder. There's just something, missing.

True, however while it doesn't have the charm fallout 3 had, it has the charm I remember from Fallout and Fallout 2. It's a bleak and desolate world with constant moral ambiguities where it is up to the player to decide if it's worth saving or should be destroyed by their own hand.

Hardcore_gamer:

And speaking of graphics, the game looks pretty ugly. The actual game world is empty, bland and lifeless (and don't give me the "but the game takes place after a nuclear war and that makes it ok" excuse. The plot/setting doesn't justify throwing the player into a series of dull uninteresting environments) which means that there is no real satisfaction to be had in exploring the game world. If anything it just becomes a chore having to wander through it. The interfaces are also confusing and annoying, that arm-computer thing you carry feels overly complex, its not that I can't understand it, its just so tedious to use.

The issue with graphics always happens when a game is expanded on, reusing the old game assets. You can't really expect Obsidian to go through every asset produced for Fallout 3 and make a higher quality version, as well as make new ones.

The plot you are handed in Fallout games is generally quite simple. Find mc guffin, kill big bad for the first two. It's not that there isn't hundreds of stories and reasons for things, you just need to talk to the people involved to find them out. The player is handed enough to provide them with an objective. The reasons are their own to decide.

As for findind the world uninteresting, you're obviously playing the wrong game. Try Metro 2033. It has graphics, story and gameplay all linearly handed to you. Fallout, like games such as STALKER are for people who enjoy the wandering. Who see a shape on the horizon and are prepared to walk there to see what it is. Actually, you could be right, if you walked through the wasteland avoiding anything of iterest just trying to get to the strip, it would be bloody boring.

As for the PIP Boy... Firstly, imersion; it doesn't pull you out of the gameworld to provide information. It keeps you in the world, though I believe some people would prefer if it didn't pause the game. Secondly, Obsidian have added a heap of features to the game that involve extra items, and they're using the same design from Fallout 3. It gets cluttered, especially 'MISC'. But it's not entirely avoidable.

Fallout

meganmeave:
Well, I'm loving it. But then, I also love the bleak as hell setting. One of my most favorite things to do is happen upon some busted up gas station or convenient store, and scavenge around in it. It makes it feel more like I am in the wastes that way.

And I have been enjoying the main story, and all the side stories. I loved Come Fly With Me. And now even my companions have stories. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

Agreed. I love New Vegas. I'm having an absolute blast with it. The humour is very Fallout 2, which is awesome. Glad I got the Collectors edition. I can't wait for the mods to start flowing.

I loved it when

I'm 10+ hours in so far. Runs smoothly and bug free so far /jinx

Stormz:

Agreed. I love New Vegas. I'm having an absolute blast with it. The humour is very Fallout 2, which is awesome. Glad I got the Collectors edition. I can't wait for the mods to start flowing.

I loved it when

Hee hee! I love No-Bark. The whole conversation with him is pretty hilarious.

meganmeave:

Stormz:

Agreed. I love New Vegas. I'm having an absolute blast with it. The humour is very Fallout 2, which is awesome. Glad I got the Collectors edition. I can't wait for the mods to start flowing.

I loved it when

Hee hee! I love No-Bark. The whole conversation with him is pretty hilarious.

It makes me want Fallout 3. I think New Vegas is already better for obvious reasons, but once I beat this game I'm going to want more, and FO 3 is the closest I can get, even if it lacks a lot of whats in New Vegas. I'm seriously on Fanboy overload right now. I just got off a 5 hour session.

Hardcore_gamer:
I bought Fallout: Las Vegas after hearing all of the praise about the game. And after having invested a considerable chunk of the day into the game it has almost put me to sleep.

Don't get me wrong, I knew in advance what kind of game this was and I was never expecting any kind of a fast paced shooter or anything, but the game is just bloody boring. There are a number of reasons for this, for starters the story feels dull and it never really held my attention not counting the first few min during the opening cutscenes. Another reason is that the characters feel and look very bland, dull and uninteresting thanks to the stiff and lifeless character models, the highly mediocre graphics and the sub-par voice acting.

And speaking of graphics, the game looks pretty ugly. The actual game world is empty, bland and lifeless (and don't give me the "but the game takes place after a nuclear war and that makes it ok" excuse. The plot/setting doesn't justify throwing the player into a series of dull uninteresting environments) which means that there is no real satisfaction to be had in exploring the game world. If anything it just becomes a chore having to wander through it. The interfaces are also confusing and annoying, that arm-computer thing you carry feels overly complex, its not that I can't understand it, its just so tedious to use.

Another thing that I just can't stand is the slow pace of the game. Yes I know this is a RPG first and a shooter second, but that doesn't mean I should be spending most of my time just walking around from A to B while doing nothing exiting at all. I have started to wander how long the promised "50+ or so hours of gameplay" I heard about would actually last if the game removed all of the annoying "walking around and figuring out where to go" parts and just left the actual interesting gameplay parts.

And wtf is up with guns being so inaccurate if you fire them yourself? I know you are suppose to level up to become better with the guns and stuff but it just feels so outrageous when you line up a perfect headshot and yet mess anyways simply because of how guns/stats work in the game.

Also, bugs.

Don't get me wrong, if you love the game then Kudos to you, but I for one regret buying the game.

Anyways, I will probably sell the game back to the store and hopefully get some of my money back.

What are your thoughts on Fallout: Las Vegas?

take everything you just said, except for insert fallout 3 instead of vegas, and thats exactly how i felt about it, i beat it 4 times and i still feel that way about it.

i came to new vegas, i haven't put the damn thing down in my freetime, hell i've actually skipped a class to play through it, i didn't even do that for mass effect 2.

now just for kicks im going to compare this to fallout 3, as thats what most people are doing, and thats what alot of people were expecting it to be like, just obsidified

Hardcore_gamer:
for starters the story feels dull and it never really held my attention not counting the first few min during the opening cutscenes. Another reason is that the characters feel and look very bland, dull and uninteresting thanks to the stiff and lifeless character models, the highly mediocre graphics and the sub-par voice acting.

wait wait wait... so to start off your complaining about the story..?!?!?!.thank god this game actually HAD A STORY. its a billion times better and more openly fluid than fallout 3's, fallout 3 started off okay but turned into the burning hell of 3rd grade writing after that. I will never say its the greatest thing in the world but its a billion light years ahead of anything bethesda has done thus far with stories. so that earns a cookie in my book.

also to go onto this..im sorry, bethesda has NEVER been good at making characters look human/have good voice acting, so once again, this point is completely bland and a massive "wtf" because i literally saw either the same or improvements on all voicing and character designs.

Hardcore_gamer:
And speaking of graphics, the game looks pretty ugly. The actual game world is empty, bland and lifeless (and don't give me the "but the game takes place after a nuclear war and that makes it ok" excuse. The plot/setting doesn't justify throwing the player into a series of dull uninteresting environments) which means that there is no real satisfaction to be had in exploring the game world. If anything it just becomes a chore having to wander through it. The interfaces are also confusing and annoying, that arm-computer thing you carry feels overly complex, its not that I can't understand it, its just so tedious to use.

okay now WTF are you talking about here? there is so much to fucking do, you must not be looking in the right spots, there are tons of quests out there! there is this fancy thing called talking to people? checking your pip boy on what quests you might've picked up? actually traveling to places you see in the distance? once again i do not get this at all, its a billion times better than fallout 3's environment, which was a huge pile of trucker shit that got steamrolled over with a few broken houses, while new vegas actually has varied landscapes and lots of different towns to explore and either destroy/make them idolize you.

the interface really is not bad at all, they break it up into three simple categories in the pip boy (the menu, if you didnt know) stats (anything stat related, a.k.a. the rpg stuff) your inventory, and quest/quest items you've picked up. how hard is that? really? its not confusing or annoying. its very nice actually. i've played easily tons of more games that are way more tedious and confusing than that.

Hardcore_gamer:
Another thing that I just can't stand is the slow pace of the game. Yes I know this is a RPG first and a shooter second, but that doesn't mean I should be spending most of my time just walking around from A to B while doing nothing exiting at all. I have started to wander how long the promised "50+ or so hours of gameplay" I heard about would actually last if the game removed all of the annoying "walking around and figuring out where to go" parts and just left the actual interesting gameplay parts.

you do realize there is this wonderful feature called fast travel? once you visit a place, you can fast travel there anytime you are outside. this has been the same and is the same in any other bethesda game, and alot of other rpg's, and what were you expecting? a super linear tiny game with a constantly small changing environment? there is this thing called mw2, i think it would suit that definition.

Hardcore_gamer:
And wtf is up with guns being so inaccurate if you fire them yourself? I know you are suppose to level up to become better with the guns and stuff but it just feels so outrageous when you line up a perfect headshot and yet mess anyways simply because of how guns/stats work in the game.

once again, they did this SO MUCH BETTER than it was in fallout 3, the gameplay is so much more fluid/smooth, the ironsights works wonders better with the camera angle in new vegas, in this game im pulling off headshot after headshot after headshot (hell i barely use VATS) while in fallout 3 i had to rely on vats just about the whole damn game. but anyways this is an rpg, so not getting a headshot is completely logical and goes by the games mechanics, a.k.a. the rpg part of it.

okay and the bugs part, anyone could have seen that coming a billion miles away, so while it is a valid complaint, and i do hold it against the game, i have yet to experience any game breaking ones or any that crash the game or mess anything up. so i dont think you can judge the whole game based off that.

now i may have came off harsh in the responses, but really what the hell were you expecting when you bought fallout new vegas? i mean is there some wonderful lying ad and marketing thing out there that i didn't see??

Fallout: Las Vegas? Never heard of it. Must be a cheap chinese knockoff. Go grab the real thing from Steam or something, I've been loving every minute of the 44-odd hours I've put into the game, and I'm not even an RPG fan. The only two I've ever played are Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV.

I just rented New Vegas because I was apprehensive about Fallout 3 at first too before I bought it. I've played it for awhile and while it's not my favourite game, there are certain things in this game that I prefer over Fallout 3.....1) Ammo is more abundant, 2) Things seem a tad more alive, and this is the most important one 3) THERE'S ACTUALLY BLOODY COLOUR !!....everything's not the same dull shade of green, yellow, and grey like in Fallout 3.

Uber Evil:

Ahhhhh.... but isn't that the whole appeal of the game? There is no Good or Bad side or good or bad choices; There is only "Choices" and all of them have there Rewards and Concenquences. So I think in FO: NV you have the power to point to a faction or person and say "Good" or "Bad"

ON topic -

The game is much more diffcult it makes me think a little more about how or if I attack something like...


They are so much tougher to kill now! I'll admit it is a bit diffcult but it is really fun. But here's one thing...

BIG SPOILER

Fox KITSUNE:

Uber Evil:

Ahhhhh.... but isn't that the whole appeal of the game? There is no Good or Bad side or good or bad choices; There is only "Choices" and all of them have there Rewards and Concenquences. So I think in FO: NV you have the power to point to a faction or person and say "Good" or "Bad"

ON topic -

The game is much more diffcult it makes me think a little more about how or if I attack something like...


They are so much tougher to kill now! I'll admit it is a bit diffcult but it is really fun. But here's one thing...

BIG SPOILER

Agreed about it being tougher. The Damage Threshold got me badly while I was trying to trek through the hills from Goodsprings to New Vegas. I saw a bunch Radscorpions in a valley that I needed to cross through and thought man, I've been destroying these things so far so why not take them all on at once. Man...these weren't normal Radscorpions. They took damage slowly, and once I got them down to almost no health, they stopped taking damage altogether. Then I noticed the red shield next to their health. I died several times trying to make that trip. I finally just used a Stealth Boy. But then some poisonous flies (I can't remember their names. Started with a "c") swarmed me and crippled my head, but I got through the valley. Crippled heads are annoying to have, though.

It's like Fallout 3 but better.

Fallout 3 is one of my favourite games of all time, mind you.

DustyDrB:
Agreed about it being tougher. The Damage Threshold got me badly while I was trying to trek through the hills from Goodsprings to New Vegas. I saw a bunch Radscorpions in a valley that I needed to cross through and thought man, I've been destroying these things so far so why not take them all on at once. Man...these weren't normal Radscorpions. They took damage slowly, and once I got them down to almost no health, they stopped taking damage altogether. Then I noticed the red shield next to their health. I died several times trying to make that trip. I finally just used a Stealth Boy. But then some poisonous flies (I can't remember their names. Started with a "c") swarmed me and crippled my head, but I got through the valley. Crippled heads are annoying to have, though.

Oh Yeah Radscorpions are like Tanks now; I try to avoid them in the early levels

Also I heard that there are Huge Black Wolves somewhere in the game; Im trying to find them I heard there not so tough but they can kill you very easily.

Holy shit the game has been out less then a week and there have been no less then 14 topics on how buggy/awful/boring the game is. Jesus guy what is going through your head! You don't offer anything intelligent to the table you're just bitching. "Wow this game is boring i'm gonna go complain about it to people i've never met!" Fuck off

I agree with everything the OP says he has some very valid points, but I am enjoying New Vegas more than I enjoyed fallout 3.

It seems like every time I fast travel the game lags really badly and dies, that has got to be the most annoying thing for me.

meganmeave:
Well, I'm loving it. But then, I also love the bleak as hell setting. One of my most favorite things to do is happen upon some busted up gas station or convenient store, and scavenge around in it. It makes it feel more like I am in the wastes that way.

And I have been enjoying the main story, and all the side stories. I loved Come Fly With Me. And now even my companions have stories. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

Agree with this. I love New Vegas standard more then I ever loved 3 standard. To me, the world almost feels more alive, for lack of a better term. I can't explain it, the world just feels desolate, but at the same time, full.

jakefongloo:
Holy shit the game has been out less then a week and there have been no less then 14 topics on how buggy/awful/boring the game is. Jesus guy what is going through your head! You don't offer anything intelligent to the table you're just bitching. "Wow this game is boring i'm gonna go complain about it to people i've never met!" Fuck off

Amen to that. And talk about actually giving a game a chance. I mean, really? If all you were doing was walking around and it was so boring and blah blah then you probably played for less than two hours.

Oh and actually the post-nuclear excuse is completely valid. Part of establishing the atmosphere of a post-nuclear desert is to make it barren, shitty and lifeless. Fallout is the kind of game where you actually go "What the fuck?!" if you see a tree. A tree. If that's not proper setting immersion I don't know what is. Anyway, if you keep going, it does get really fun, but I guess you'll never know because youre going to return it on an hour-and-a-half experience. That's like meeting someone, and they were taking a little too long to tell you their name, and you just say "FUCK THIS I DONT WANT TO MEET YOU BYE"

I have no idea what Fallout: Las Vegas is...

But, on a serious note, I want to play New Vegas. I enjoyed 3, even tho Fawkes shoulda taken that hit, and New Vegas sounds like it'll be fun.

Fallout New Vegas beats you badly and still says it loves you.

I disliked the
Left: Deathclaw Hell
Right: Story

I hate the hell out of the frame rates dropping to hell and it freezing...and the anime voice who voices EVERYONE in the desert...

I got to admit a lot of thinks are pretty kickass. Jason Bright he was really cool model.

Also another massive dislike is the guide (I spoiled myself) was...all the choices you make there is no even morale ground or a nice good guy side.

Fallout New Vegas - It has its Pros + Cons as did Fallout 3

Take Them Lumps

New Vegas is a. more atmospheric, b. more compelling, and c. more playable than Fallout 3 ever was. The Mojave feels huge, the characters seem like actual people, the story is actually interesting, and iron sights have never felt so good ever.

So, if you didn't realize, I respectfully disagree.

I'm enjoying so far,but only in small chunks a day.If I overdo it,it tends to become boring.

Even with all the improvements that were implemented in New Vegas it still gives me an "clone/expansion" vibe to it.Can't really say it's a sequel,since it doesn't continue the story from Fallout 3 afaik,perhaps I am mistaken and will learn that further as the game progresses.

All in all,the conclusion remains that it is better than Fallout 3 even with the current bugs that the patch will probably fix.

PS: This is strictly my own opinion from what I have seen until level 21 which I reached yesterday.

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