What are your thoughts on Fallout: Las Vegas?
Crazy awesome! I am playing it whenever I can!
33.6% (284)
33.6% (284)
Its really good.
28.8% (243)
28.8% (243)
Its good.
15% (127)
15% (127)
Its ok.
8.9% (75)
8.9% (75)
Its mediocre.
6% (51)
6% (51)
Its bad.
1.2% (10)
1.2% (10)
Its really bad.
1.4% (12)
1.4% (12)
Its horrible, I hate it completely!
3.4% (29)
3.4% (29)
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Poll: Fallout: Las Vegas is boring beyond belief

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Vivace-Vivian:
There's just something, missing.

I thought that too, and I've figured out it's how New Vegas flows compared to Fallout 3.

In Fallout 3, you start as a baby and work your way up to becoming master of the wastes and fulfiller of your destiny.

In New Vegas, you're shot in the face and miraculously survive for the sole purpose of revenge and giving audience to the feudal wars that take place in the Mojave.

Coupled with the numerous bugs, New Vegas lacks the "charm" that made Fallout 3 so addictive and luring.

Fallout: New Vegas is to Fallout 3 what Bioshock 2 was to Bioshock 1, it's a decent copy/paste with minor upgrades, but it just doesn't hold a candle to the previous game.

Playing FO:NV has just made me want to play FO3 again instead, so much for the original creators of the FO series...=/

Uber Evil:
I kind of agree with you. I've gotten to New Vegas and am bored and angry at it. The long stretches of wandering when I can't kill many of the creatures becomes tedious. The decisions in the games aren't as black and white, like when you

But in New Vegas my circumstances left 3 out of the 4 or 2 out of the 3 casino cashiers dead, So I have to play at the Gamorrah. Both the Tops and Ultra-Luxe are better. I also can't fin any ammo or weapons, so I am being F'ed in the A by most enemies.

Edit: I do like the game, although it is kind of a tough love sort of game, and can get aggravating at times. Can't wait for MMM and Level Cap & Skill Cap workarounds, and maybe UPP. And Something to let you play after the end. When those come around I can say that I'll love the game to death. It did that to FO3.

It's not supossed to be in black and white, the whole moral choice system is based around doing what you think is least evil in a lose/lose situation.

And sir to put it eliqoently i take issuse with your claim and (joking) belive you are a knob. But each to his own i guesse. I however just got the game today and love it!

I think it's way better then fallout 3 and I can't wait to see what they come out for with DLC, my only problem is when my arms fall from the top of the screen (unless that's part of the zany desert happenings trait)

Although to come to FO:NV defense, Red Dead was even more boring...=/

Well so far it has more charm and bugs than Fallout 3 but I wasn't a big fan of Fallout 3 anyway... besides I don't mind bugs...

I haven't played it yet, but, it's Fallout: New Vegas. How do you not know that? You claim you bought this game and played it? And you don't know what it's called?

Edit: I don't really doubt you played the game - your first impression matches what my own first impression of Fallout 3 was. It was only after I bought the game for cheap recently that I was able to spend a lot of time with it, playing it slowly (as it is meant to be enjoyed) and that I actually found Fallout 3 fun. Still, they definitely aren't going to be everyone's kind of game.

So far it's a very good game.
With that said... it can't touch Fallout 3.

Well you...um...there's...ah...

Have you ever played a Fallout game before...?

Or like...read about one?

all bugs aside I'm really enjoying the game. I don't think the game is boring. I'm still in the exploring stage of the game so when I see a blip on the compass I am happy to see what is there to find.

I just finished a 6 hour session, and that was after a full day of school/work/getting over a cold.
I love how the difficulty is approaching that of the original games. I love hardcore mode. I love how many more and interesting chems they included. It just seems so much more full and interesting than Fallout 3. I'm even enjoying the story quests!

gmaverick019:

Hardcore_gamer:
for starters the story feels dull and it never really held my attention not counting the first few min during the opening cutscenes. Another reason is that the characters feel and look very bland, dull and uninteresting thanks to the stiff and lifeless character models, the highly mediocre graphics and the sub-par voice acting.

wait wait wait... so to start off your complaining about the story..?!?!?!.thank god this game actually HAD A STORY. its a billion times better and more openly fluid than fallout 3's, fallout 3 started off okay but turned into the burning hell of 3rd grade writing after that. I will never say its the greatest thing in the world but its a billion light years ahead of anything bethesda has done thus far with stories. so that earns a cookie in my book.

also to go onto this..im sorry, bethesda has NEVER been good at making characters look human/have good voice acting, so once again, this point is completely bland and a massive "wtf" because i literally saw either the same or improvements on all voicing and character designs.

1,000,000,000 = a multiplied number used as a descriptive term often by you

My main point of quoting is really how much have the character designs changed from oblivion to this? It's lacking now and it's been lacking before, but this is no justification for a weak point of a game that weighs so heavily on communication and human character models. Poorly handled characters in RPG's = cars with stuffed animals for engines.

I wholeheartedly agree with fo3's story of 'find your dad' being rather bleh, and I'm not knowledgeable on f:nv's story, so I assume you're right.

As for the OP, I said it's mediocre and that greatly factors in the problems friends have had with it. A game isn't great or even good if it completely locks my system, deletes my save or lags often.

Lastly, riddle me this: Lag in an offline game, how does it happen? Get it together people. Patch these problems. Make more loading screens as "seamless" doesn't describe the scenario any longer anyway.

Hardcore_gamer:
And wtf is up with guns being so inaccurate if you fire them yourself?

I'm sorry, but unless you completely suck, your character completely sucks, or your guns completely suck, accuracy is beyond belief. It's been patched once already so Trigger Discipline isn't such a gamebreaker, but some weapons (like the Varmint Rifle) are so accurate that you'll kill everything on the first shot. Just line up in VATS, leave VATS, and take a shot down the sight.

Love everything about it except for two pesky little things.

1. Bugs. I tend to favor console versions over PC versions to get AWAY from the bugs. Fallout: NV however manages to bring the bugs to every version. The worst are the random times it just freezes my XBox, and I actually have to do a hard reset. Not good for my hardware or enjoyment.

2. Deathclaws. FUCK Deathclaws. Even at lvl 19 these things can one-shot me. I did finally get my hands on a .50 cal rifle so hopefully that will even the odds a bit, if I could get one on its own. The fact that they like to hunt in packs simply adds to the frustration. They are like bullet proof 12ft velociraptors.

Also sneak continues to be overpowered, even with only 25 points in it.

I'm still waiting for it to finish downloading. Steam gives decent game prices, but for someone with a really slow net connection, time is the extra hidden cost.

It all boils down to personal opinion in the end.

Personally, I could never get into to the fallout games. I was too spoiled by Oblivion. Maybe it was because it was my first true "Nextgen" game, but I was completely immersed in Oblivion. I couldn't sleep the day after I playing the game.

But that's not the whole shindig. There was no doubt about it, Oblivion was much bigger. In more ways then just map size. There was varieties of weapons, different ways of fighting, ridiculous amounts of magic powerups, ridiculous amounts of customizations, and a much better way of representing you character.

Thats my personal reason why fallout will always have a sour taste in my mouth. It can do better. They just dont put the same care in the game the way they do with Elder Scrolls.

(And yes, I know a different company made New Vegas then Oblivion and Fallout 3)

fun, but buggy, difficult, occasionally boring, frustrating, buggy, very buggy, and honestly WAY too much freedom. a lot of freedom is good, but when you have this much, it never feels like youre accomplishing anything.

i mean one of the main quests is "do a whole lot of investigating and odd jobs for ALL these 'families' and report back to this robot".

upkeep of ur weapons and armor really pisses me off: if you cant find the same weapon, you take it in to get repaired. but to repair it you need a LOT of caps. so you decide to sell some of ur loot for caps to repair ur stuff. but the vendor doesnt have any caps to give u for ur stuff because he already bought a bunch of my loot earlier. and i know there are a lot of vendors (more than fallout 3, thankfully), but they all have the same problem: they bought my shit, so they have no caps to give me, so i cant get my shit repaired, so i have to wander around aimlessly looking in buildings for the same equipment i already have just to repair it.

an endless cycle of frustration.

despite all this, i keep playing the game and find some entertainment in it.

SpireOfFire, there are perks that can reduce your frustration in repairing/maintaining your weapons. My repair is already at 100 (along with guns and science) and I'm maybe 2/3 of the way through the game (just shy of lvl 20). Also there is never a reason to use the "low-grade" ammo, it just sucks your weapon durability down and really, ammo is plentiful.

SpireOfFire:
fun, but buggy, difficult, occasionally boring, frustrating, buggy, very buggy, and honestly WAY too much freedom. a lot of freedom is good, but when you have this much, it never feels like youre accomplishing anything.

i mean one of the main quests is "do a whole lot of investigating and odd jobs for ALL these 'families' and report back to this robot".

upkeep of ur weapons and armor really pisses me off: if you cant find the same weapon, you take it in to get repaired. but to repair it you need a LOT of caps. so you decide to sell some of ur loot for caps to repair ur stuff. but the vendor doesnt have any caps to give u for ur stuff because he already bought a bunch of my loot earlier. and i know there are a lot of vendors (more than fallout 3, thankfully), but they all have the same problem: they bought my shit, so they have no caps to give me, so i cant get my shit repaired, so i have to wander around aimlessly looking in buildings for the same equipment i already have just to repair it.

an endless cycle of frustration.

despite all this, i keep playing the game and find some entertainment in it.

Take the jerry rig perk. Or wait 24 hours.
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NV is about a trillion times better then Fallout 3, and Fallout 3 was one of my favorite games. Honestly, you sound like a troll. Haven't you even played an RPG before?

One last thing:

THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN SETTING DOESN'T EXCUSE IT?

THE SETTING IS THE WHOLE POINT! Bland, lifeless, depressing, dead. The point is that you become desperate for something alive that isn't vicious or burnt out. Every single thing is a nook and cranny hiding secrets and skeletons to uncover. That's the point of Fallout.

I think its fairly obvious what your problem is. Its not with new vegas per say its that you dont like the genre at all. You complained about nearly everything that the fallout games are known for.

Hardcore_gamer:

And wtf is up with guns being so inaccurate if you fire them yourself? I know you are suppose to level up to become better with the guns and stuff but it just feels so outrageous when you line up a perfect headshot and yet mess anyways simply because of how guns/stats work in the game.

Thats actually one of the things that fallout did so right that other games really dont do at all. Why the hell should some nobody who has barely ever handled a gun be an expert sharpshooter. The answer is they shouldnt and fallout solves that problem. There is also the fact that you need a certain level of guns and strength to really even use some weapons. The lower your skill the worse you are with the gun as it SHOULD be.

It really seems that you didnt look at the game at all before you bought it. You should really try and atleast do alittle research next time it might save you some money. Buying a game and then complaining about all the things that the game is known for is just plain stupid.

Okay man seriously i get that you're trying to do a Yahtzee review on new vegas. As well as "Try" To enjoy it. BUt seriously even zp said it was like ..."bramstone pickle just spread a little thin. But If you let it draw you in you will be swimming in it for hours."

It hasnt turned me off the game it has just made me think im going to have to forget about it until the Christmas holidays if I wanna get any school work done. Just please actually be up beat about some games

Googenstien:
Much better and less boring and more RPG-like than Fallout 3. They did a great job on revitalizing the franchise.

My thoughts exactly. It is almost like they decided that they had grabbed a new audience with Fallout 3 and are now pulling the franchise slowly back to its roots.

I long for a really captivating western rpg again. Not just nostalgia talking for once but nothing for years has been truly outstanding.

Googenstien:
Much better and less boring and more RPG-like than Fallout 3. They did a great job on revitalizing the franchise.

Wow, nearly word for word what I was going to say.
Yeah, it's like a much better version of 3, so I like it. Plus you don't have to start in that pain in the ass Vault.

I couldn't disagree more.

A lot of the issue is that it's a RPG that plays like a shooter. Skill up in stats and ability and grow with the game. I love the quirky setting this time and the varied voice acting is pulling me in.

It seems a little tedious that there's a lot of fedex quests, but then again you start the game as a courier. The enemy AI and hardcore mode are keeping me on my toes, but there's a definite NAG when I die from some odd bug or something out of my control.

Still I think it's a good enough game to grab people for 8 or so hours before they realize they've wasted a whole day playing something that they secret love more than anything in the whole wide world.

Bugs aside, I really find the atmosphere and the setting beautiful and amazing in it's own way. But then again I think the desert setting is a lot more 'alive' than the Capital Wastes was.

My current opinion of the game is that "The game is unavailable" is a very unspecific and annoying error message. Hopefully I'll manage to sort that today, although I have already spent 5 hours going through the suggested fixes...

I love the game.

So far it's looking likely to surpass Fallout 3 as my favorite game of all time, if it continues to entertain me as much as it is. and as long as I don't get raped by bugs.

Completely awesome!

Also, it's Fallout: New Vegas...

Fallout 3 had a bigger 'umph' because it came out of nowhere, like a dropkick to the face.

New Vegas is less so, because it looks very fallout-3-ish. With that said, I'm enjoying the game quite a bit because the content itself is actually fresh, and the playstyle, revamped

Cmd. Shepard:
I just rented New Vegas because I was apprehensive about Fallout 3 at first too before I bought it. I've played it for awhile and while it's not my favourite game, there are certain things in this game that I prefer over Fallout 3.....1) Ammo is more abundant, 2) Things seem a tad more alive, and this is the most important one 3) THERE'S ACTUALLY BLOODY COLOUR !!....everything's not the same dull shade of green, yellow, and grey like in Fallout 3.

Dude, you weren't playing Fallout 3 right. Download the Fellout mod, plus the Ultra realistic Lighting mod, and FO3 looks so much better.

New Vegas is really fucking awesome. This is the first game in years I've played 'till 5 AM, it's like crack. Almost all the improvements in it are welcome, especially the hardcore mode, man, it's awesome.

Also, there are no subway stations, so up yours, Fallout 3.

Its all you :/ i haven been bored a single time.
The only reason im not playing it now is because my anti-virus is running and it makes the game chunky.

"Don't get me wrong, I knew in advance what kind of game this was and I was never expecting any kind of a fast paced shooter or anything, but the game is just bloody boring"
Then you obviously didnt know in advance what you were buying!

And if your going to say the game is ugly, you need to go play FF7. :/ people these days constantly gripe about graphics. You should be happy you can even tell whats human or not. Whats with everyone thinking graphics are so important? I hate how one of the few selling points these days for games are, "AMAZING GRAFFIX" or, "LIVE LIEK SCENERY". Dont get me wrong, i like good looking games, but if im paying 60 bucks for crap, i dont care how polished it looks. Its still crap.

Point in case: The new "Forza Motorsports 3". i hate it. It is possibly the worst racing game ever developed. Its possibly the best LOOKING game ever, but that doesnt make it any good.

And you complain about things that are probably your fault and not the games. :/ do you spray or aim down the sights? If you spray, thats probably why. From the start i was sniping with my 9 mm pistol with ease. The guns are perfictly fine accuracy wise. If anything, they can be too accurate at times and make the game to easy.

Im on my second play through, and i have yet to hit any game breaking bugs like everyone talks about.

To sum up what i posted incase you dont have the attention span to read it:

ITS ALL YOU. THE GAME IS AMAZING, EVERYTHING IS BALANCED AND EVERY PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS BECAUSE YOU ARE PICKY. PICKY PICKY PICKY.

The Bum:

Uber Evil:
I kind of agree with you. I've gotten to New Vegas and am bored and angry at it. The long stretches of wandering when I can't kill many of the creatures becomes tedious. The decisions in the games aren't as black and white, like when you

But in New Vegas my circumstances left 3 out of the 4 or 2 out of the 3 casino cashiers dead, So I have to play at the Gamorrah. Both the Tops and Ultra-Luxe are better. I also can't fin any ammo or weapons, so I am being F'ed in the A by most enemies.

Edit: I do like the game, although it is kind of a tough love sort of game, and can get aggravating at times. Can't wait for MMM and Level Cap & Skill Cap workarounds, and maybe UPP. And Something to let you play after the end. When those come around I can say that I'll love the game to death. It did that to FO3.

It's not supossed to be in black and white, the whole moral choice system is based around doing what you think is least evil in a lose/lose situation.

And sir to put it eliqoently i take issuse with your claim and (joking) belive you are a knob. But each to his own i guesse. I however just got the game today and love it!

Sorry, sorry. I kinda meant that as a compliment to the game. The moral choices are a lot better than in FO3, but trying to decided makes an endless loop that aggravates me. Is that the only issue you take offense to? Any others i'll be glad to explain my logic.

instantbenz:

gmaverick019:

Hardcore_gamer:
for starters the story feels dull and it never really held my attention not counting the first few min during the opening cutscenes. Another reason is that the characters feel and look very bland, dull and uninteresting thanks to the stiff and lifeless character models, the highly mediocre graphics and the sub-par voice acting.

wait wait wait... so to start off your complaining about the story..?!?!?!.thank god this game actually HAD A STORY. its a billion times better and more openly fluid than fallout 3's, fallout 3 started off okay but turned into the burning hell of 3rd grade writing after that. I will never say its the greatest thing in the world but its a billion light years ahead of anything bethesda has done thus far with stories. so that earns a cookie in my book.

also to go onto this..im sorry, bethesda has NEVER been good at making characters look human/have good voice acting, so once again, this point is completely bland and a massive "wtf" because i literally saw either the same or improvements on all voicing and character designs.

1,000,000,000 = a multiplied number used as a descriptive term often by you

My main point of quoting is really how much have the character designs changed from oblivion to this? It's lacking now and it's been lacking before, but this is no justification for a weak point of a game that weighs so heavily on communication and human character models. Poorly handled characters in RPG's = cars with stuffed animals for engines.

I wholeheartedly agree with fo3's story of 'find your dad' being rather bleh, and I'm not knowledgeable on f:nv's story, so I assume you're right.

As for the OP, I said it's mediocre and that greatly factors in the problems friends have had with it. A game isn't great or even good if it completely locks my system, deletes my save or lags often.

Lastly, riddle me this: Lag in an offline game, how does it happen? Get it together people. Patch these problems. Make more loading screens as "seamless" doesn't describe the scenario any longer anyway.

what can i say, i like my big numbers =]

i can agree, the character designs haven't changed much, but in all respect i am almost glad bethesda/obsidian does this, as its a smack in the face to everyone who thinks graphics > gameplay/story/etc..

so my main point is, if i can see it and understand what "it" is, then im cool with it being semi bad graphics. now thats all down to personal preference i suppose but im just saying im glad there are developers out there who aren't all "GRAFIKZX F:TW!!#@!?"

the story in fallout new vegas is MUCH BETTER. you are VERY hands on about what happens and there are ridiculous amount of ways to handle the game. i was so baffled at one point with how many options i could take that i paused it, re read everything twice, and sat there and just pondered for a bit. and its not "black and white" decisions so you really gotta think about what is it that YOU want and not if your looking for good or bad karma.

now i guess i over did it on that part, i have yet to have any of that happen (suprisingly enough, usually im the one fighting for a whole fucking day to get the game to even install on my system, let alone run it flawlessly) so i can't comment on that, as i've literally had nothing go wrong with it short of having a giant radscorpion get stuck in a rock (Not a bad thing either)

well thats some bad framerate your having, which i dont know which part exactly to blame it on..but i haven't had that happen more than once? i even had it in third person and i was spinning around and there were a good 13 people all firing their guns and running at me and it lagged for about half a second. so i guess its a person to person thing once again.

I've heard that the combat is a lot better than Fallout 3, can anyone confirm this?

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