Fable 3: "Good" Ending

I'm a Queen now at the obvious stages of the game, on my particularly good character where I've already broken a couple of sacrifice-able promises to get the money required. I'm not that deep into it, but here's a couple of questions;

If I -don't- succeed, Yahtzee's review mentions the world becomes barren of people in the Sandbox mode. That's a bit boring, do they respawn/repopulate at least? Give me something to DO. I'd hate to have to muddle around on my evil character with a world that just SCREAMS and runs.

His review also mentioned an arbitrary 150 day jump. Could someone explain this, it sounds like something I need to watch out for. After all, I can "faff about" between time jumps but if there's some kind of secret time limit I should know about.... I'd like to know about it.

"121 days left" immediately time skips to the last day. Watch yourself on that day.

1. The people come back if you sleep for a couple of days I've heard, but they don't come back happy with you.
2. The game skips forward about 150 days whilst you're King/ Queen so when you're on 150 days or so until the attack that's you're final chance to get the funds necessary.

Onyx Oblivion:
"121 days left" immediately time skips to the last day. Watch yourself on that day.

Noted, thank you.

AvauntVanguard:
I'm a Queen now at the obvious stages of the game, on my particularly good character where I've already broken a couple of sacrifice-able promises to get the money required. I'm not that deep into it, but here's a couple of questions;

If I -don't- succeed, Yahtzee's review mentions the world becomes barren of people in the Sandbox mode. That's a bit boring, do they respawn/repopulate at least? Give me something to DO. I'd hate to have to muddle around on my evil character with a world that just SCREAMS and runs.

His review also mentioned an arbitrary 150 day jump. Could someone explain this, it sounds like something I need to watch out for. After all, I can "faff about" between time jumps but if there's some kind of secret time limit I should know about.... I'd like to know about it.

He's talking about the way that the game accelerates the time period when you do certain events, it moves between sessions of you keeping court, as opposed to letting the timer slowly trickle down.

To be honest the endgame here is one of the few "non casual" aspects of Fable 3, as it rewards people who played the game seriously. The way to get the best possible ending is to have built up a massive pile of gold in your personal treasury, and then transfer that money into Albion's treasury, so you can make all the good desicians while still having the money to do what needs to be done.

What's more one of the game's puzzles pretty much requires this, since you need to max your treasury in order to climb the gold pile to get a key, and then empty it so you can use it to unlock a chest at the bottom. The only really efficient method of emptying the room is to transfer the cash to the treasury.

So basically if you just followed through the storyline without bothering to build up a fortune through playing real estate mogul or whatever, then your screwed come the endgame. On the other hand if you've seriously built up and maintained all those buildings and businesses as you played, then your likely to have more gold than you could ever spend, and a ridiculous amount of income coming in periodically.

If your in the endgame and find yourself having to break promises to raise the needed funds, then by definition you failed.

Yeah, it's an interesting paradox, at least.

I'm already aware of Option 3, Therum. I'm working on it now but money is coming in rather slowly (I'm only earning ~10,000 per tic). My first question is based on "If" I don't succeed, I don't want to sandbox in an empty world.

Quick bump; guess I didn't put enough information. People aren't 'getting' my worry. I know the endings (Spoilers don't spoil me, for anything. I enjoy the journey more than the start or the end), I'm asking if a good ending makes me sandbox in an empty world.

The "good" ending means everyone lives because you saved up the 6million necessary to save the (apparently) 6 million people who live in Albion. If you have the 6 mill then no one will disappear. If you have 500, 000 or less gold in the treasury, THEN you will have an empty sandbox with no living things in it, besides balvarines that is. I wasn't worried on my first play-through considering I owned EVERY building and shop in the game and had over 70 million gold by then. Also kept all my promises, the ending still sucked.

Well, that just sucks.
It's like they're punishing us for being nice.

Though, the hits on morality is only like 25 points per decision. I guess I could redeem myself afterward, if people don't already hate my soul by then.

Ugh. This is hard.
But the best kind of hard.

AvauntVanguard:
His review also mentioned an arbitrary 150 day jump. Could someone explain this, it sounds like something I need to watch out for. After all, I can "faff about" between time jumps but if there's some kind of secret time limit I should know about.... I'd like to know about it.

The big things to remember are thusly:
- Once you start participating in the day's agenda for a given day, there's no guarantee you'll get enough time to return to 'faffing about' before the time transition to the next 'day'.
- The day this happens is 121-ish. It'll be substantial, as it actually skips another few months just getting to that point. (I think it goes from 230-ish to 121-ish in a similar massive time skip)
- Specifically on the 121st day, once you take the first item on the agenda, you will NO LONGER be able to work on getting money and depositing.

Okay, thank you. I -think- I'm around 294.
Guess I'm just going to stop for now and screw around with money. I'm nowhere close to what I need.

I was very sad at first because my world was barren because I was a hippie-king, but as I started buying all of the property out of boredom, I realized something.

Now, I don't know if this is a glitch that has been fixed, because I have not played the character since I bought every piece of property in the game, but as I recall, when you buy a house and rent it out, people come with it. They just...APPEAR.

Anyway, that's how my king repopulated the world. Through real-estate.

LogicNProportion:

Anyway, that's how my king repopulated the world. Through real-estate.

But; did they like you? :P

You need 8.5 million total to get the good ending. This includes expenditures you make in court. As long as you have that sum or more, you can make any choice you want and act however you please without really affecting the outcome of the game.

The best way to get that much is to just buy up and rent out every property, then just putting down the controller and letting the game run for a couple hours. However, it gets really goddamn tiring having to come back every hour or so and going to each individual goddamn house for repairs(fuck you, Lionhead, and your lack of foresight to put in a REPAIR ALL option). On my "evil" playthrough I just bought all the shops, and only bought houses I intended to live in. It took longer to get the cash, but it was a MUCH more enjoyable experience. Well, relatively speaking, considering how bad the game is.

Also, just in case you haven't gotten that far yet, DON'T ABOLISH THE DRINKING LAWS. For fuck's sake, don't do it. Yeah, it makes the people love you, but you will literally spend the entire rest of the game with EVERYONE THROWING UP CONSTANTLY. I'm serious. 90% of the NPCs will be permanently rendered into stumbling, slurring, projectile-vomiting drunkards and no matter how fun that sounds on paper it gets annoying after about five seconds. You've been warned.

Samechiel:

Also, just in case you haven't gotten that far yet, DON'T ABOLISH THE DRINKING LAWS.

Remember these words of wisdom! Oh how it pained me to return home to my home with 3 children just to see my wife throw up all over the place right in front of them. Needless to say, I was somewhat miffed.

Remember these words of wisdom! Oh how it pained me to return home to my home with 3 children just to see my wife throw up all over the place right in front of them. Needless to say, I was somewhat miffed.

Well, I'm yet to play Fable 3, but I just choked on my drink before headbutting the wall in laughter.

AvauntVanguard:
Quick bump; guess I didn't put enough information. People aren't 'getting' my worry. I know the endings (Spoilers don't spoil me, for anything. I enjoy the journey more than the start or the end), I'm asking if a good ending makes me sandbox in an empty world.

Depends on how "Good" you mean by your ending. If you do not raise any taxes, but don't have the required gold to prevent deaths, then you get the bad good ending. That is to say, your people will love you, but they go to their deaths loving you. So for a time, yes, your world will be a barren sandbox. As people have pointed out, the NPCs come back, but they are none too happy with you. I wouldn't know if this is true, as I was so disappointed in the ending that I immediately stopped playing the game.
Now, if you want the super "Good" ending, you must not raise the taxes or do any of the evil things, but you also need to have the six million plus gold. This actually isn't that hard to do. Simply save enough gold to buy a store. Save the profits from that store to buy another store. Eventually add in houses for rent. If you keep doing this, gold will no longer be a problem. Before I even became Queen, I was literally making one million gold every ten minutes. In an hour, I had enough gold to save everyone without messing with anything. If you do this, then no, the after game will not be a barren wasteland. In fact, everyone will adore you more than they already do.

Hope this helps.

Yeah, I had a good character, and I wanted to both stay good and raise the money. I made a couple "evil" decisions like choosing to drain the lake instead of keeping it. The rest of the money I had to raise by spending hours of making pies in a random town. After several hours of intense boredom, I eventually gto the 6,500,000 gold that I needed. Honestly though, I just wanted to see if anything different happened, plus there was an achievement for my troubles, but 10 gamerscore isn't enough for me to forgive the game.

AvauntVanguard:

LogicNProportion:

Anyway, that's how my king repopulated the world. Through real-estate.

But; did they like you? :P

Why yes, yes they did.

Rents lowest they can go, shit always 100%. I saved their kingdom, kept all my promises.

I killed a guard in front of them and they fucking cheered.

Don't bother with the houses there just a pain in the ass to repair all the time. Go for shops instead. Set all prices to high (Don't worry bout the morality hit. Mine never dipped into the red even when i set all of them to highest) Do that and by the time you get to the end game you'll have more money that you could possibly need.

Just beat it as a good girl.
Once I was getting around 70k income every 5 minutes, saving up wasn't that hard. Except for the times I had to leave the game on and go watch a movie or something.
Won't have the same issue with my "Bad" girl, though.

A small question that doesn't really relate; How "big" does my girl get if I go with melee and my strength goes up? I don't really like the auto-sizes. I liked trying different things on the same character. It's what I loved about Fable 2: Everything I did could be reversed.

But I want a spellsword woman who isn't a hulking horror like in Fable 2. Hideous.

 

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