Bioware blocks user from playing his store-bought copy of DA2, for bad-mouthing EA?

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http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6459941/1#6460241

Just stumbled upon this little gem and wondered what you fine gentlemen thought about it?

Well if you sucker-punch a heavy weight boxer, you shouldn't be surprised when he turns around and clocks you. If you get sanctioned on steam, the sane thing happens, you're locked out of your games. If he's that unhappy with them, fuck if I know why he bought it.

Well theat's just awful. Why should they prevent him from getting what he deserves from what he bought with legalcurrency because they are unhappy with his opinion of them. He can say what he likes and they can't do anything.

0mn1p0t3ntg6y:
He can say what he likes and they can't do anything.

I'm pretty sure they already proved you wrong.

Eri:

0mn1p0t3ntg6y:
He can say what he likes and they can't do anything.

I'm pretty sure they already proved you wrong.

But the question is, do they have the RIGHT to do anything about it? It wasn't even real criticism, it was more of a joke than anything.
I quote:
"Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?"

That isn't even an opinion worth censoring if you ask me, it's like shooting someone for saying you have a silly hat.

If this is true I have officially lost the last bit of respect I had for Bioware.

Pretty sure that's theft on Bioware/EA's part?

Just because they currently dislike that user doesn't give them the right to remove his ability to play games on that account - that prevents him from accessing save files and DLC in previous Bioware games too. (obviously a new account could be made for DA2)

How well does playing offline work? Would that let him access his (non-DA2) games again?

Doesn't practically every EULA these days remove all rights from the user to complain about anything?
"It's our game. I know you paid 60 green for it, but it's still ours. Just FYI"

they shouldn't be allowed to do that

i don't like Nexon much, and have said so ON THEY'RE forums, as have others, an my account isn't banned or suspended

but then, this is EA, pissing people off seems they're hobbie

This is just...messed up...

Bioware...Why?

There's a reply from the moderator at the bottom of the page now. I'm not sure what to make of it; it seems like their EULA does sort of have mention about that sort of thing, but if that really is the case, and it prevents access to a single-player game, then they really need to consider changing that.

One thing I've learned in life is that people being punished are almost never honest when talking about it during or after they 'pay the piper'.

I have never heard of a forum suspension having any other repercussion other than use on a forum tho.

EDIT: The MOD says:

""Please review the EA Community Terms of Service, particularly sections #9 and #11. There are two levels of enforcement here:

1. BioWare community bans are forum-only and can be for as little as 24 hours. These bans should have no effect on your game, only your ability to use all the features of this website/community. these bans are handed out by BioWare Moderators as the result of our travels around the forum and/or issues reported by fellow community members.

2. EA Community bans come down from a different department and are the result of someone hitting the REPORT POST button. These bans can affect access to your game and/or DLC.

Because the BioWare community now operates under the same umbrella as all EA Communities, community members here have all explicitly agreed to abide by and be governed by both sets of rules. Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow.

If there are further questions or concerns, please send them to me via private message. Thank you.

End of line.""

Guess that answers that. It's what you get for not reading the rules you agree to.

Apparently, it was done by a machine because a bunch of people clicked the "report" button.

Big game companies are not stupid and don't just ban you because of things like that. Most likely, he's one of those kids who has done something REALLY stupid and got hit for it.

We're seeing one side, the side of the guy who can make whatever he wants up and says that EA banned him for it...

Looking at the ToS, they CAN do that. It doesn't make it right, though.

From a mod/admin: "Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow."

Yeah, Bioware has lost all of the respect I once had for them.

Ok that's just wrong. Suspend him on the forums, fine, good, that's perfectly appropriate. But preventing him from activating his game that he BOUGHT?

That's just not right.

Why do they feel the need to tie a your game account with your forum account for bans,ect. That seems....quit silly if you ask me.

I have no idea who to blame at this point.

We need a little more context, but it seems that the user got themselves suspended from EA's side as opposed to being suspended by BioWare mods. It's an unnecessarily harsh punishment, but it could be an unintended side-effect of the suspension. Of course, since we're talking about EA they could just be fucking with him for fun. Their ToS does come with a laundry list of reasons to wreck your shit, after all:

What they did is illegal. It's that simple. It's his opinion and his right to free speech.

J03bot:
Pretty sure that's theft on Bioware/EA's part?

Just because they currently dislike that user doesn't give them the right to remove his ability to play games on that account - that prevents him from accessing save files and DLC in previous Bioware games too. (obviously a new account could be made for DA2)

How well does playing offline work? Would that let him access his (non-DA2) games again?

http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section9
Look at 9 and 11. They could effectively cut him off. Sounds like what they did.

i can admit they may have gone too far but punishment is still due so they can either learn from there mistakes or have this happen again

J03bot:
Pretty sure that's theft on Bioware/EA's part?

Just because they currently dislike that user doesn't give them the right to remove his ability to play games on that account - that prevents him from accessing save files and DLC in previous Bioware games too. (obviously a new account could be made for DA2)

How well does playing offline work? Would that let him access his (non-DA2) games again?

Accoring to him he can't access any of his content, nor log into any game.
The only option he has now is cracking the games he legally bought.

Preventing people from playing their purchased games because they criticised your game is probably against the law, but what gamer has the funds to go to court?
To think that Bioware, the people behind BG, turned into this... truly saddening.

Dansrage:
But the question is, do they have the RIGHT to do anything about it?

Of course they do. It is their service and their forum and they have a right to do what the will with it. And if we don't like it then we have a right not to buy their products or participate.

Ahahaha! YES this beatiful! Everyones precious bioware suddenly doing things more in the open so peoplew can no longer defend them. Oh Bioware this is just to funny.

This ain't right. I'm lucky that I haven't been banned yet for all the stuff I've said on their forums that insulted EA. I'm glad (sarcasm there) EA knows how piss off their customers and I'm doubly glad (super sarcasm there) Bioware joined up with them. I will never understand why Bioware thought EA was a good company to join up with.

CitySquirrel:

Dansrage:
But the question is, do they have the RIGHT to do anything about it?

Of course they do. It is their service and their forum and they have a right to do what the will with it. And if we don't like it then we have a right not to buy their products or participate.

Not quite. I'm pretty darn sure the gamer could take EA to court and easily win this one no matter what their forum rules say. You cannot take away someone's access to something simply because they insulted you. That is not only theft but a violation of the freedom of speech. And don't tell me that in a private forum the freedom of speech goes out the window. That is BS and you know it.

So you say something that annoys the fanboys on the Bioware forums and get automatically locked out of playing games that you paid for or is just when you say something slightly uncomplimentary about EA? That's really lousy, they should just delete the forums if it comes down to this but really it's a reminder of how bad a deal consumers can get when you pay for games as a service.

ImprovizoR:
What they did is illegal. It's that simple. It's his opinion and his right to free speech.

Free speech doesn't apply to everything. Also he agreed to rules, which he broke.

it seems like EA blocked him
not Bioware

Exactly. For instance, if I came on this forum and said something like-

User was banned for this post. Reason: Libel, insulting of forum members, extreme racism, something to do with a very rude phallic object, and quite possibly a threat against the security of the world.

ImprovizoR:
What they did is illegal. It's that simple. It's his opinion and his right to free speech.

Look at the ToS. It is perfectly legal. Are they being massive dicks? Yes. But it is legal.

Eri:

ImprovizoR:
What they did is illegal. It's that simple. It's his opinion and his right to free speech.

Free speech doesn't apply to everything. Also he agreed to rules, which he broke.

He also paid €50 for a game that he cannot now play. Is that right?

RedEyesBlackGamer:
Looking at the ToS, they CAN do that. It doesn't make it right, though.

From a mod/admin: "Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow."

Yeah, Bioware has lost all of the respect I once had for them.

While the mod isn't exactly sympathetic, it's pretty clear that this ban came from EA. That doesn't bode well for BioWare, but it isn't entirely their fault.

One sort of has to wonder what has been up with EA lately, it's like they saw all the negative publicity Activision was getting and said, "Hey! I want in on that too!".

looks like they only solution is for everyone the world over stops buying games. that way we can come up with rules for whats fair that both makers and players can agree on and then we can all start again on equal footing...

and then we'll all live forever, be infintely rich and no longer hate everything

(ignore this all)

And they can't figure out why we walk around pirating the games. Sorry, guys, but it AIN'T pirating if you paid for it.

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