VALVe no longer doing single player only games?

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well that sucks...i mean i guess i can see why but it really hurts T.T

Well, judging by Portal 2 it's not taking anything away from the single player game, so does it really matter?

Pass the sauce please?

Calumon: Why would you want the sauce if it hurts them?

To be fair, TF2 is making them bloody rich at this point, and adding co-op to portal 2 in my opinion was the only way they could validate releasing portal 2 at full retail price. Even then, eight hours of singleplayer and from what I hear a fairly short mutiplayer isn't worth full retail price, again, in my opinion. Still, no point complaining as at the end of the day, more content for the buyer = good stuff.

As long as the single-player content is worth the price of the game, I don't see any reason not to include multi-user modes. For people with friends and such.

I seem to be missing the context to this article.

Or am misunderstanding. You mean as in not having any single-player games at all, or just including multiplayer modes?

Apparently because they included a co-op mode in Portal 2 Valve is abandoning the single-player game design.

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Umm: The original Half-Life had multiplayer. Half-Life 2 had multiplayer. The only Valve game that doesn't have multiplayer is Portal.

Every single other game in their catalogue past and present has a multiplayer component.

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

What about the original Portal?

GothmogII:
Umm: The original Half-Life had multiplayer. Half-Life 2 had multiplayer. The only Valve game that doesn't have multiplayer is Portal.

Every single other game in their catalogue past and present has a multiplayer component.

The truth hurts.
How can anyone forget this, unless they are, like, 15?
HL1 gave way to CS and TFC (Though TF came from Quake, I think).

It's just that their singleplayer experiences haven't suffered for it, like some developers.

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Deathmatch says otherwise.

what are you talking about? did they actually say this was the way the company was going or are you just making wild generalizations? (I can't see HL (episode?) 3 being Multilayer, well maybe Co-op if anything)

Hybridwolf:
To be fair, TF2 is making them bloody rich at this point, and adding co-op to portal 2 in my opinion was the only way they could validate releasing portal 2 at full retail price. Even then, eight hours of singleplayer and from what I hear a fairly short mutiplayer isn't worth full retail price, again, in my opinion. Still, no point complaining as at the end of the day, more content for the buyer = good stuff.

Did you play portal 2? Because even at 8ish hours long, the single player alone was nearly worth the price of admission, it was extremely good (well story wise, it lacked in challenging puzzles but hopefully community maps will make up for that).

Since when did Valve never make a multiplayer mode for their games?

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The only one I can think of that is completely 100% single player is Portal 1, and maybe the two episodes if you don't count them as Half-Life 2.

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Half-Life 2 came with Counter-Strike: Source and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. Not to mention the countless multiplayer mods that were built on it.

And this is ...bad?

So bland gameplay won't be a a purely solo thing? Calamity.

Tomster595:

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

What about the original Portal?

A few hours of greatness sure, but not a full game. Just like CoD or most FPS games. The single player parts are lacking, just like in Portal 2.

Trolldor:

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Deathmatch says otherwise.

Deathmatch? What are you talking about? I thought I was talking about single player games...

Sober Thal:

Tomster595:

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

What about the original Portal?

A few hours of greatness sure, but not a full game. Just like CoD or most FPS games. The single player parts are lacking, just like in Portal 2.

Trolldor:

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Deathmatch says otherwise.

Deathmatch? What are you talking about? I thought I was talking about single player games...

You failed it.

Half-life 1 and 2 both came with a death match for their respective titles.

Steal personal information such as track number, not the recent attacks joy or satellite, you my son, but whether to us all has been added, all they group they come back Satan, they dare not admit the idea.

Trolldor:

Sober Thal:

Tomster595:

Trolldor:

Deathmatch says otherwise.

Deathmatch? What are you talking about? I thought I was talking about single player games...

You failed it.

Half-life 1 and 2 both came with a death match for their respective titles.

Oh, I see what you're saying now. It doesn't change the fact that Half Life 2 was the last full single player game, even if it had multiplayer content.

Everyone asking for a source, OP is probably referring to this.

Personally, I can't help but think this is going to be taken the wrong way by a lot of people. I interpreted it as meaning all future Valve titles will include multiplayer in some way, shape or form. As Portal 2 showed us, multiplayer doesn't always come to the detriment of the single player game. If anyone can make sure both modes get a fair shake, it's Valve.

timeadept:

Hybridwolf:
To be fair, TF2 is making them bloody rich at this point, and adding co-op to portal 2 in my opinion was the only way they could validate releasing portal 2 at full retail price. Even then, eight hours of singleplayer and from what I hear a fairly short mutiplayer isn't worth full retail price, again, in my opinion. Still, no point complaining as at the end of the day, more content for the buyer = good stuff.

Did you play portal 2? Because even at 8ish hours long, the single player alone was nearly worth the price of admission, it was extremely good (well story wise, it lacked in challenging puzzles but hopefully community maps will make up for that).

Personal opinion, Boyo. I think Portal 2 simply wasn't worth full retail price for a game full of jokes you'd see on an episode or two of Have I Got News For You and yet another open ending which left me feeling guilty thanks to the after credit's cutscene. Differing tastes. It was fun, and I did enjoy it, but I want valve to just finsh episode 3 and then go back to making more hats for TF2. That way, I can stop waiting to finsh my damn half life experience rather then get teased with more filler.

Why is this a problem? Valve will put more time and energy into their games now, if not more. I'd love it if Half-Life 3 would have multiplayer.

What about L4d, and L4D2 those don't count?

Wow, where the hell were you when:
Deathmatch,
Every iteration of CS ever,
TF Classic,
Day of Defeat
and more came out?

Erm, Valve hasn't been doing single player only games since they released the original Half-Life deathmatch... or, if you really want to be be strict about the definition of multiplayer, since Counter-Strike. That's still pretty late of you to realize that Valve doesn't just do Half-Life.

Hybridwolf:
To be fair, TF2 is making them bloody rich at this point, and adding co-op to portal 2 in my opinion was the only way they could validate releasing portal 2 at full retail price. Even then, eight hours of singleplayer and from what I hear a fairly short mutiplayer isn't worth full retail price, again, in my opinion. Still, no point complaining as at the end of the day, more content for the buyer = good stuff.

I've played both, and there's roughly 15 hours of gametime for a single run-through of them.

There's also a bunch of achievements for both campaigns that can substantially add to your playtime. I have not done them myself, but I've been told a lot of them are quite challenging and can (and do) take up a lot of time.

Edit: On topic, I don't see that as a bad thing. They are clearly able to provide high quality single and multi-player experiences. That's no reason to get bent out of shape over it.

Now the delays on Episode 3 are worth getting bent out of shape over.

Oh right, because I forgot how much Left 4 Dead, Team Fortress 2, and Alien Swarm sucked

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Portal 2? And why are so against multiplayer? Just get some friends online.

well, Valve can totally do multiplayer (TF2, L4D, Portal 2, etc.)

but I highly doubt they'd spit in the faces of Half Life fans... you know, MORESO than usual.

Valve knows that Half Life is one of it's greatest strengths, getting rid of single player would mean getting rid of Half Life (or making it multiplayer, Valve'd find a way and it'd kick ass), and Valve is too smart to do that.

I call bullshit of the highest order.

Soylent Bacon:
Since when did Valve never make a multiplayer mode for their games?

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The only one I can think of that is completely 100% single player is Portal 1, and maybe the two episodes if you don't count them as Half-Life 2.

This was also my reaction upon just reading the title.

All of Vlave's games have had multiplayer, save Portal, but that was just an experiment so it doesn't count really.

Agayek:

Hybridwolf:
To be fair, TF2 is making them bloody rich at this point, and adding co-op to portal 2 in my opinion was the only way they could validate releasing portal 2 at full retail price. Even then, eight hours of singleplayer and from what I hear a fairly short mutiplayer isn't worth full retail price, again, in my opinion. Still, no point complaining as at the end of the day, more content for the buyer = good stuff.

I've played both, and there's roughly 15 hours of gametime for a single run-through of them.

There's also a bunch of achievements for both campaigns that can substantially add to your playtime. I have not done them myself, but I've been told a lot of them are quite challenging and can (and do) take up a lot of time.

Edit: On topic, I don't see that as a bad thing. They are clearly able to provide high quality single and multi-player experiences. That's no reason to get bent out of shape over it.

Now the delays on Episode 3 are worth getting bent out of shape over.

Whoa. I'm not getting "bent out of shape" over Portal 2. I liked the damn game, I'm just glad I didn't have to pay £40 for it. I already have all the single player achivements, and the only mutiplayer one I can see being an issue is the one requiring you to run a friend through the tutioral after you've beaten the game. Thats only tricky because you effectively need three friends, one of whom will be screwed out of an achivement. And I'm more annoyed that valve are making more and more plotlines to connect into Episode 3, and yet there is nothing about the damned game. Hopefully now, with portal over and done with valve can finsh the story that made their company famous...

Psychotic-ishSOB:

Sober Thal:
Yep, this has been true for years. Not since what, Half Life 2? have they made a full single player game.

Damn you Valve.

Portal 2? And why are so against multiplayer? Just get some friends online.

Portal 2 was just way too short. Any game you can finish in one sitting is not good enough to buy at full price for me. Thankfully I bought Portal 2 used.

I just don't enjoy multiplayer that much. Co-op is good, but I get bored with Deathmatches and Capture the flag type games quickly.

I will just have to wait for the new Bioshock and Dues Ex games for my single player FPS fix. Now if Valve releases that level editor for Portal 2 soon, who knows... I may change my mind about Portal 2.

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