What is a "try hard"?

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TheTim:
The term tryhard is just an excuse for getting owned in a game, like saying you have no life.

pretty much that. nothing really else to ad

Tryhards are people who are way too serious about their game, they could be trash talking the other team, using unorthodox methods to win, getting too immersed in their game, or overall being an asshole.

When I win, I am the Lord of Video Games and you are a noob, a scrub piece-of-trash. When you win, you are a pathetic basement dweller who plays video games all day and never gets laid. Calling you a try hard is just a variation of the latter. It's just a way to minimize your victory and my loss.

The general population's understanding of the word 'tryhard' would be someone who is better than you. If you kill someone with a weapon that takes more skill to use than others (like a shotgun kill from mid-range, a bolt-action sniper, taking down an AC-130 that someone is piloting), people immediatally call you a tryhard.
For example:
(jake88 kills david2002 with a sniper)

david2002: TRYHARD FAGGOT WHY DON'T YOU JUST HAVE FUN ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS YOUR KDR TRYHARD JESUS AT LEAST I'M HAVING FUN

However, the true meaning of a tryhard is one who ruins the game for others just to improve his score. Boosting, camping, noobtubing, using thermal snipers, and even to an extent semi-auto sniper spamming, is being a tryhard. I've even seen some one playing Hardcore SnD kill his entire team just so he could get the other team to himself.

A 'try-hard' is a person who tries too hard, ie, punches above his weight, overdoes things, tries to be somebody he or she is not. The OP's example is using it the wrong way.

Try-hards are players with much more experience at the game and know the little tips & tricks that can land them on top of the scoreboard i.e. Using the Famas, dropshotting, pre-nades.

Tryhards are someone who play to win or do well instead of simply playing for fun. In some contexts it's a bad thing (D&D or similar RPGs would be a good example) but usually it's a fucking stupid thing. (Like any online FPS, for example) If you're not on the same page as other players it can be frustrating, but there are usually clear implications based on the game you are playing, the mode, ect.(Or the server count. When my TF2 server is almost empty I generally just run around and goof off, let other people do the objective if there is an odd number of people online.)

A lot of people will also use the term as an insult 'ironically'. I think we can safely say those people are 'douchebags'.

I've only seen tryhard in League of Legends but there I see it used(mostly by my friend) for when someone on the other team is trying to hard to get a kill and it doesn't work out for them. Like they'll try to turret dive him but then someone from our team is there and ganks them, than he'll sometimes call them a tryhard.

I've heard the term before and it is the stupidest insult ever devised in any form of media in the history of mankind.

Dirty Hipsters:
A "try-hard" is someone who will do anything to win at the game, regardless of how unsportsman-like it may be. Tryhards are the people who start camping together in one building, and put up 5 claymores at every entrance when they begin to lose so that they can't die, or who go one-man army n00btube and spawn camps, or someone who only uses the most overpowered weapons in the game because they HAVE TO have the advantage over everyone. They don't care how they win so long as they win, as opposed to someone to plays the game for fun (at least this is how I understand it). It's basically a way of saying that the other team played like cheap bastards.

Yes thank you. I couldnt have put it better. It's pretty much a person being a douchebag just win the game when in reality it doesn't matter.

as far as I can tell a try hard is someone who wants to win and not lose

onewheeled999:

Dirty Hipsters:
A "try-hard" is someone who will do anything to win at the game, regardless of how unsportsman-like it may be. Tryhards are the people who start camping together in one building, and put up 5 claymores at every entrance when they begin to lose so that they can't die, or who go one-man army n00btube and spawn camps, or someone who only uses the most overpowered weapons in the game because they HAVE TO have the advantage over everyone. They don't care how they win so long as they win, as opposed to someone to plays the game for fun (at least this is how I understand it). It's basically a way of saying that the other team played like cheap bastards.

Pretty much this. They take the game WAY too seriously, and sacrifice the fun of the game for raw, completely un-fun, brutal competition. The people who consider people who are just playing for fun to be dragging the team down and don't deserve to be in the same server as themselves.

Dude, playing to win is fun. If you don't find attempting to achieve the victory conditions of a game fun, why play it in the first place? There are plenty of other games with other win conditions out there just waiting for you to play them -- and if you're the type of gamer who just likes to screw around on a server, not actually contributing to your team or trying to help them win, you really shouldn't be playing competitive gametypes online. In sandbox games like Garry's Mod and Minecraft, sure, goof off all you like. But in games that were designed to be competitive, you're doing a disservice to the other players if you aren't at least trying to win -- which is why it's so terrible that "tryhard" has become an insult.

OT: It seems to be a case of sour grapes. As someone else put it, the attitude is "if I win, I'm great and you suck. If you win, sure I lost, but at least I have a life am not a tryhard." Overall, it's a pretty pathetic argument.

Not much to add other than the fact that it's rather sad (though not entirely surprising) to see how negatively playing to win is viewed. It's also rather sad that there seems to be a belief that playing to win is somehow equated to not having fun. The fun I've experienced in nail biting fighting game battles against a fellow player who's also trying their hardest far surpasses anything I've experienced otherwise.

I'd suggest reading sirlin's article on the concept, but it's already obvious what the majority of the response to it would be without even doing so.

What scrubs call normal folk when they loose.

The only time I heard the phrase was when an enemy player in Black Ops was using the Commando and pretty much would rapidly spray at anything he saw. So my definition of it I've got from it is someone who is just...trying way to hard and is doing with such little grace that the amount of work it's taking is really noticeable.

Lord Beautiful:

Arontala:
Tryhard, in the general gaming community, is used as a derogatory term for someone who is beating a team by not sucking. That's it, really. People on the Escapist may have a different view on it, but that's how it's used by the majority of people in online gaming environments.

So, it's essentially saying "Stop trying and let me kill you, or else you're a tryhard who only plays for wins!1!!1!!11!!one!".

That seems to be the case to me. I recall watching a Street Fighter IV gameplay vid where a guy used throws in the middle of some of his combos and won. Some of the comments found this distasteful and accused him of being a "try-hard." There I sat thinking to myself, oh god forbid he uses tactics that work.

So, I'm guessing it's a catch-all term for people who play games with some semblance of skill.

Yet in a class based shooter like Call of Duty, using the cheap weapons will make you a "try hard".

You're putting on a class that has a superior advantage, and you are using it to mop the floor with me.

The only thing is, I don't want to play like this guy. I want to explore other classes that are unique and interesting. I very much don't want to be held down by a certain perk and gun set.

So when this person immediately starts to absolutely destroy me because his class beats my class in every way, it's easy to see me get frustrated. His tactical advantage is making my play style impossible to use. The only way I could possibly match him is to take up his very same class.

I don't want to do that. I want to use my class.

There you see the problem.

Edit: I think it's worth mentioning that I don't see any problem with the tactic in Street Fighter.

I've heard that's legitimately how you are suppose to play.

omega_peaches:
For the game you are playing (Black Ops), a tryhard is
AUG Red Dot
CZ75 Dual Wield
Motion Censor
Concussion Grenades
Flak Jacket Pro
Sleight of Hand Pro
Hacker Pro

Yet the FAMAS is better than the AUG in every single way.
http://www.codblackopsblog.com/call-of-duty-black-ops-weapons-damage-chart/

The definition that I would use has already been said, ie an insult aimed at making the other persons victory seem less then it really is.

I would like to share a great phrase I read somewhere online:

"In an MMORPG no matter how good or bad you are equipped, anyone equipped worse then you is a stupid noob, and anyone equipped better is tryhard no-lifer"

It is easily applied to any genre of competitive games.

Maleval:
The definition that I would use has already been said, ie an insult aimed at making the other persons victory seem less then it really is.

I would like to share a great phare I read somewhere online:

"In an MMORPG no matter how good or bad you are equipped, anyone equipped worse then you is a stupid noob, and anyone equipped better is tryhard no-lifer"

It is easily applied to any genre of competitive games.

this x 10.000.000

give this guy a blog here.

A tryhard is anyone who:
1)Uses Turtlebeaches for the sole purpose of hearing enemy footsteps
2)Sweats excessivley while playing
3)Is unable to talk and play at the same time
4)Kills you
5)Is slightly better than you
6)Wins the game

Dirty Hipsters:
A "try-hard" is someone who only uses the most overpowered weapons in the game because they HAVE TO have the advantage over everyone.

I've only ever been called a try-hard for using the "under-powered" weapons and winning.

Try-hard has just become another generic, empty insult used by people who can't accept the fact they were bested, such as noob, and any vulgar word you can think of.

Gladiateher:
There's this weird stigma growing like a cancer in my fellow Americans. I've noticed it quite often in fact. Many people these days seem to believe that effort of any kind is somehow "uncool". It's pretty disgusting actually people judging others negatively because of excellent grades or athletic performance. I suspect it all has to do with some form of jealousy or another. Very alarming indeed sir i'm glad you brought this up.

Welcome to Australia! We have a name for that here: Tall Poppy Syndrome.

Myself, I just get on with my game, though I have seen far too many people take the objective way too seriously. I mean, if you're not having fun, why are you here?

Tdc2182:

omega_peaches:
For the game you are playing (Black Ops), a tryhard is
AUG Red Dot
CZ75 Dual Wield
Motion Censor
Concussion Grenades
Flak Jacket Pro
Sleight of Hand Pro
Hacker Pro

Yet the FAMAS is better than the AUG in every single way.
http://www.codblackopsblog.com/call-of-duty-black-ops-weapons-damage-chart/

Wait, I thought they nerfed the Famas.
I don't really care, I don't play Black Ops either way

"Tryhard" is a complement. It means you're much better than whoever is calling you that.

In my school, there's a group of people similar to to "tryhards." They're called "pacers" because our advanced placement classes (or something) are known as "PACE." Most of the non-pacers don't like the pacers, probably because they are "tryhards." This makes me raise my unibrow \:|

shameduser:
I've heard the term before and it is the stupidest insult ever devised in any form of media in the history of mankind.

This. A million times this.

It's the epitome of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

From reading this thread it means that you did better then somebody else and they are jealous.

Dirty Hipsters:
A "try-hard" is someone who will do anything to win at the game, regardless of how unsportsman-like it may be. Tryhards are the people who start camping together in one building, and put up 5 claymores at every entrance when they begin to lose so that they can't die, or who go one-man army n00btube and spawn camps, or someone who only uses the most overpowered weapons in the game because they HAVE TO have the advantage over everyone. They don't care how they win so long as they win, as opposed to someone to plays the game for fun (at least this is how I understand it). It's basically a way of saying that the other team played like cheap bastards.

See this is what I dont get. Even if your playing for fun why would you choose a weapon that you know is worse then the alternative.

Tdc2182:

Yet in a class based shooter like Call of Duty, using the cheap weapons will make you a "try hard".

I dont see a problem there. Your prefered set-up puts you at a clear disadvantage and it just so happens that mine does not. If you dont like that then sure it sucks but its your own fault and blaming or insulting others for using weapons and perks that they enjoy is just stupid.

It is something people call me when show skill instead of laziness by accomplishing my tasks set before me. Its as insulting as when people call me gay, since I basically am. These are the same people who use hardscoper as an insult too, and that is to use a sniper for its intended purpose in its intended way as opposed to cheating via exploiting the aim assist function that hopefully will be removed in MW3.

'Try-hard' is a term used by people who lose at a game and don't want to own up to their loss. Such people take the game more seriously than the people they're referring to as 'try-hards' or 'no-lifes', but choose not to put forth the necessary time and effort to get better at the game, instead choosing to blame their defeats on better players. An excellent example is people who complain about an opponent's choice of character in a fighting game, such as the Marvel vs. Capcom 3 online player base who will insult you heavily if you use Dante, Wolverine, Gouki, Wesker, Phoenix, or Sentinel. They accuse Dante/Wolverine/Gouki/Wesker/Phoenix/Sentinel players of not caring about fun or wanting to ruin other peoples' fun, but the irony of this statement is that the objector is so closed-minded that the only definition of 'fun' that they acknowledge is their own. It never occurs to these people that perhaps employing provably effective tactics, progressing as a player, and learning more about the game is fun to some people.

tl;dr edition: If someone calls you a 'try-hard', then that person takes the game more seriously than you do, despite being worse at it, and is so obsessed with himself that the only opinion he acknowledges is his own.

I use LMGs in MW2 and in general I kill the people using the standard array of douchebag tactics. And if I (or my team) wins, I typically am called a try-hard. So I figure it's just the asshole way of addressing people with talent.

DustyDrB:
"Tryhard" is a complement. It means you're much better than whoever is calling you that.

Quoted for truth. This is probably the funniest definition i've seen.

Dirty Hipsters:
A "try-hard" is someone who will do anything to win at the game, regardless of how unsportsman-like it may be. Tryhards are the people who start camping together in one building, and put up 5 claymores at every entrance when they begin to lose so that they can't die, or who go one-man army n00btube and spawn camps, or someone who only uses the most overpowered weapons in the game because they HAVE TO have the advantage over everyone. They don't care how they win so long as they win, as opposed to someone to plays the game for fun (at least this is how I understand it). It's basically a way of saying that the other team played like cheap bastards.

If you don't take every single advantage you can get to win, You are bound to lose. If they have the overpowered guns, why don't you use them? If they have them because they are higher level than you, they've earned them. Everything you said is a valid tactic to win. Further more, winning is fun losing is not, If I'm playing a game to have fun, I'm playing to win.

lordmardok:

Midnight Crossroads:
When you play Marvel vs Capcom, they pick Sentinel, Dante, and Whesker. They only get fun out of winning instead of actually enjoying the game.

right here, this is a good example.

Although in Wesker's defense, he's just a noob killer. If you know how to fight him he's easy meat unless the player has actual skill with him.

Yeah, I'd say Sentinal is the cheaper character out of those 3 ... 2 unskilled players and the guy with wesker on the team has an advantage with the high def/att but once you get to the point where you're fighting skilled guys then a wesker in your party won't mean shit unless you've practiced .... SENTINAL on the other hand .... shiiiiiiiit .. can't wait til strider's back ... until then ... better drink my own piss

onewheeled999:

Dirty Hipsters:
A "try-hard" is someone who will do anything to win at the game, regardless of how unsportsman-like it may be. Tryhards are the people who start camping together in one building, and put up 5 claymores at every entrance when they begin to lose so that they can't die, or who go one-man army n00btube and spawn camps, or someone who only uses the most overpowered weapons in the game because they HAVE TO have the advantage over everyone. They don't care how they win so long as they win, as opposed to someone to plays the game for fun (at least this is how I understand it). It's basically a way of saying that the other team played like cheap bastards.

Pretty much this. They take the game WAY too seriously, and sacrifice the fun of the game for raw, completely un-fun, brutal competition. The people who consider people who are just playing for fun to be dragging the team down and don't deserve to be in the same server as themselves.

I admit. I've called others "Try hards" because everytime I go on Black ops with my friends, the enemy team starts calling us losers and trash when we aren't even playing the game at all.. So... yeah...

Ando85:
I notice when a team loses on an online shooter such as Black Ops every now and then a guy with a crappy ratio will accuse the other team of being "try hards". I just don't see how this makes any sense. Do they expect me to play worse on purpose so it won't look like I am trying hard? Aren't you supposed to try your best?

I've never really understood most of what or why people use to insult one another with online, but here's my best guess, but given the context, they're calling people noobs without flat-out calling them noobs. It's not so much that they want you to play worse, they're just mad at being on the losing team and have nothing better to say. I could try to go deeper than that, but chances are it's nothing more than a kid having a tantrum despite being one of the lowest scored people in the game.

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