Is Skyrim promoting bestiality?

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pulse2:
I just know there's a bestiality forum somewhere on the internet talking about how exciting this news is, lol

WHY CAN'T I FIND IT!!!! lol.

Finally my dreams will come true of a Dark elf and a Orc having a baby...yay.

Generic_Username:
Who even romanced Liara? I never got the appeal, she kinda creeped me out.

I'm just quoting you to say you have an awesome avatar lol.

Though the Toilet seat hitting her might have been even cooler.

Is Mass Effect promoting beastiality by letting you bone other species than human? Of course not, they're aliens, they're creations of fiction based on a combination of human and animalistic traits and aesthetics, same as the other species in Skyrim. No fantasy creature really strays that far from the human template; elves are just slightly shorter with pointy ears, qunari are slightly bigger and have cornrows or oversized goat horns and khajiit basically have a catface and are covered in fur. There really isn't that much distinction, basically they look and act a hell of a lot more like humans than animals, they are sentient, bipedal creatures capable of coherent speech and offering consent. Besides, it's a video game, people are capable of making distinctions between fantasy and reality and do things in the former realm which they would never practice in the latter. At the most all you can argue is that the game is furry friendly and while that's not really my bag, it doesn't bother me that it's being included.

shrekfan246:

xXGeckoXx:

Generic_Username:

Who even romanced Liara? I never got the appeal, she kinda creeped me out.

The interesting thing about the asarii is that all races in mass effect show a sexual attraction to them hinting that the asarii evolved to be attractive to everyone and the game designers modeled them as such.

This is a really good way of justifying it to my self. Also gives birth to the term unisexy, sexy to all races and genders baby.

I think you're searching for "omnisexy", really. The prefix "uni-" means "one", whereas the prefix "omni-" means "all".

Ahem. Sorry.

OT: I can't say that I've been interested in marrying characters in most games anyway. Sure it enhances the "role-playing" aspect of it, but that's not really why I'm there. It's cool that they give you the freedom, and I certainly don't see it as being strange.

I am so retarded, wow as a suffix prefix addict I am so unhappy right now.

OT: my point stands that MA goes as far as to explain why sex with this alien race is alright.

Short answer:
Yes.

It depends on how you look at it. Argonian and Kajiit are animal, no doubt. They can't bare human children, and vice versa, humans can't bare Kajiit or Argonian children (don't argonians lay eggs?). Where this occurs we can safely call it inter-species breeding. So, yes, it would be bestiality with the added difference that the beast in question can actually give informed consent. I think we'll see much more Rule 34 on the Elder Scolls after this - unless Bethesda intends to sue for infringing, that is.

questionnairebot:
WHY CAN'T I FIND IT!!!! lol.

Finally my dreams will come true of a Dark elf and a Orc having a baby...yay.

What would we call such a hybrid? A Dorc? Dorc Elf?

They're not animals, there anthropomorphic. Not to mention that they are basically humans with animals skins replacing the pink flesh mentally anyways.

questionnairebot:

Generic_Username:
Who even romanced Liara? I never got the appeal, she kinda creeped me out.

I'm just quoting you to say you have an awesome avatar lol.

Though the Toilet seat hitting her might have been even cooler.

You might have just given me a great idea, sir.
I should probably also say something on topic, but I can't stop thinking about the toilet seat.

Wait... Implications aside, what exactly is strange or objectionable about, theoretically, two people of different sentient races being in love? Just as a hypothetical scenario, where exactly is the problem? And if you don't want to be spending your evenings in bed next to a lizard lady marry a Nord or one of the other more humanoid races.

Hungry Donner:

CD-R:
Fun fact Skyrim was not the first Elder Scrolls game with a romance quest.

Anyone remember Ahnassi?

I do, and I'm not sorry that someone brought her up before I had the opportunity. If Ahnassi's romance quest wasn't scandalous I don't see why Skyrim's romance options should be. Honestly I doubt the gaming media, let along the mainstream media, will give this much attention.

When Mass Effect was attracting so much attention I don't recall anyone concerned about human and alien relationships.

Lets also not forget the Lusty Argonian Maid.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:The_Lusty_Argonian_Maid

I think you are missing the real point here.

What will happen when the Red Guard start dating and marrying the Nords, or god forbid the Imperials!

We just can't have this, it will ruin the voice of the Emperor. Society will break down, we all know those Red Guards are nothing but criminals and thugs!

(ha, JK)

Dude it's just a game, i could careless. I mean my dark elf will be marrying humans and all the other races, i mean if it promotes beastiality (more like furrism) then it also promotes marrying races of fantastical creatures that dont exist. (Orcs, Dwemer, HIGH ELVES)

I think you really need to look up the definition of "bestiality". Merriam-Webster defines it as "sexual relations between a human being and a lower animal". Khajiit and Argonians aren't "lower animals," as they are sentient and as intelligent (if not more so) than humans... making them an equal race. Therefore, it cannot be bestiality since the relation is not between a lower animal, but a being of equal intellectual capability.

Apt application of the definition renders the discussion within this thread moot.

KaizokuouHasu:
Short answer:
Yes.

It depends on how you look at it. Argonian and Kajiit are animal, no doubt. They can't bare human children, and vice versa, humans can't bare Kajiit or Argonian children (don't argonians lay eggs?). Where this occurs we can safely call it inter-species breeding. So, yes, it would be bestiality with the added difference that the beast in question can actually give informed consent. I think we'll see much more Rule 34 on the Elder Scolls after this - unless Bethesda intends to sue for infringing, that is.

questionnairebot:
WHY CAN'T I FIND IT!!!! lol.

Finally my dreams will come true of a Dark elf and a Orc having a baby...yay.

What would we call such a hybrid? A Dorc? Dorc Elf?

There's actually several different types of Khajiit. There's some that look just like Humans except with slight feline features. (Think the Thundercats). Those were the types of Khajiit you played as in the old Arena and Daggerfall games. In those cases it wouldn't be too strange for humans to hook up with Khajiit. It's kind of cool what type of Khajiit a baby Khajiit grows into is dependent on the phase of the moon.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Khajiit

I actually wouldn't mind the next Elder Scrolls game taking place in Elsweyr it sounds like a pretty awesome place.

Chased:

MaxwellMurder:
Fox news is going to skew this and say you can Marry a Horse. I just know it

Horse tuxedos would be perfect for DLC. >.>

and they will cost a fortune

God I hope so, that'd be fucking hilarious.

Yeah I'm playing as a brave bold adventurer who also bangs tigers on the side.

Or you could use it as bragging rights.

I'm so damn mighty that I have sex with mother fucking tigers.

Hentai between a female human and god knows what has always been interesting fetish for me.

I don't know if I'd do it in Skyrim however.

If they are two intelligent species why should they not cross marry?

The only reason i see how beastiality is wrong is cause a pet don't always got that intelligence.

However i'm more than certain that not all bestiallity is "animal rape" i guess its just more of a way to use somebody lesser intelligent.

such as it's not really accepted for healthy person to get with someone with downs syndrome etc.

That didn't even occur to me until now. Huh. Maybe because I'm absolutely indifferent towards the whole marriage business.
Just give me two axes and lemme fight giant tentacle bears with them.

And now I know what I'll name my character.

Ragnar Bearmurder!

KaizokuouHasu:
Short answer:
Yes.

It depends on how you look at it. Argonian and Kajiit are animal, no doubt. They can't bare human children, and vice versa, humans can't bare Kajiit or Argonian children (don't argonians lay eggs?). Where this occurs we can safely call it inter-species breeding. So, yes, it would be bestiality with the added difference that the beast in question can actually give informed consent. I think we'll see much more Rule 34 on the Elder Scolls after this - unless Bethesda intends to sue for infringing, that is.

As has been pointed out, bestiality is having sex with a lower animal. Argonians and Kajiit aren't lower animals. You sir, are a speciesist.

MaxwellMurder:

Chased:

MaxwellMurder:
Fox news is going to skew this and say you can Marry a Horse. I just know it

Horse tuxedos would be perfect for DLC. >.>

and they will cost a fortune

Any price is worth my horse in a tux!
Also, Fox can go f--k themselves. It's not like anything intelligent comes from that news station anyway.

Father Time:
God I hope so, that'd be fucking hilarious.
Yeah I'm playing as a brave bold adventurer who also bangs tigers on the side.
Or you could use it as bragging rights.
I'm so damn mighty that I have sex with mother fucking tigers.

The question is though; will we be able to have sex? So far they have announced marriage, but it might be platonic. That said, if they do add sex (and I don't see why they wouldn't add it at this rate), would you be able to have sex out of wedlock?

CD-R:

There's actually several different types of Khajiit. There's some that look just like Humans except with slight feline features. (Think the Thundercats). Those were the types of Khajiit you played as in the old Arena and Daggerfall games. In those cases it wouldn't be too strange for humans to hook up with Khajiit. It's kind of cool what type of Khajiit a baby Khajiit grows into is dependent on the phase of the moon.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Khajiit

I actually wouldn't mind the next Elder Scrolls game taking place in Elsweyr it sounds like a pretty awesome place.

Indeed. But I wonder if they would be considered Khajiit after something like that.

Justanewguy:

KaizokuouHasu:
Short answer:
Yes.

It depends on how you look at it. Argonian and Kajiit are animal, no doubt. They can't bare human children, and vice versa, humans can't bare Kajiit or Argonian children (don't argonians lay eggs?). Where this occurs we can safely call it inter-species breeding. So, yes, it would be bestiality with the added difference that the beast in question can actually give informed consent. I think we'll see much more Rule 34 on the Elder Scolls after this - unless Bethesda intends to sue for infringing, that is.

As has been pointed out, bestiality is having sex with a lower animal. Argonians and Kajiit aren't lower animals. You sir, are a speciesist.

How rude! Calling me a speciest like you know me. Tsk! *snaps fingers above head* Also, what the hell is a 'lower animal'? Don't call me a speciest when you're the one who see yourself as higher up in the animal kingdom that the rest of them!
Finally, are you a furry? I must know.

The thing with Bestiality is that it's a form of animal abuse, in a sense that animals don't have the intelligence to consent a sexual act with a human being, therefore the human is taking advantage of the animal.

Now, in The Elder Scrolls these creatures with animal resemblances, are humanoid and intelligent, being the only significant thing that distinguishes them from humans is their appearance.

So people that are into Bestiality might fancy the idea of being intimate with a Khajiit or an Argonian, but that doesn't mean it goes the other way.

I think.

Khajiits and Argonians have feline and reptilian characteristics respectively.
Just like humans have great ape characteristics.
They are no more or less animals than humans are.

I don't see how it's any different than the xeno-romance options in ME. Sure the Khajiits and Argonians look alot closer to earth animals than the Asari or Turians, but ever race mentioned is fully sentient and sapient. Now if you've got a problem with all of them okay, but if you think romance with aliens is okay, why not fantasy races like this?

Me, I don't give a shit. I don't really have a problem with inter-species romance.

im guessing this was meant more as a joke, otherwise the op is overthinking this a bit too much. in arcanum i could fuck a sheep, but i never thought of that as a promotional tool for beastiality

razerdoh:

Nudu:
Oh god the furries.

oh god FOX NEWS!

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If it's between sapient species, it's not bestiality, it's just interspecies. It's not considered bestiality for vulcans and humans to marry, so why would it be in this case?

Giest4life:
I haven't played Skyrim, but what if it is promoting bestiality?

I might try a PC demo if it is available on Steam just check that feature out.

Skyrim isn't out yet.

OT: Its no weirder than alien love in Mass Effect. If the being is intelligent I don't think it really falls under bestiality.

So? you can have a romantic relationship with a scaley person. Big Whup.

I'm more worried that people will say it promotes spree killing.

twistedheat15:
I'm going gay lizard on cat and idc what anyone thinks! Only homosexual inter-species beastility can hold my interest in 2011's!

In this modern world I think it's only politically correct to say man-lizard on man-cat action is A-OK.

There's a massive difference between buggering an intelligent humanoid cat and buggering a tabby cat, right? This is more like promoting furry... ism

I myself am going to find myself a nice Argonian wench... 'Cause i'm weird like that

MaxwellMurder:
Fox news is going to skew this and say you can Marry a Horse. I just know it

Don't forget the wedding dress horse armor DLC!

Its not really promoting it at all. Also, the races in Skyrim are much more intelligent than your standard dog or other animal, so it really doesn't seem like bestiality in general to me. In fact, the Khajit and Argonians are more like people. There is no way in hell I am marrying a lizardwoman though, so forget that idea.

interspecies erotica

Generic_Username:

scnj:
Is it technically any worse than romancing Liara in Mass Effect?

Who even romanced Liara? I never got the appeal, she kinda creeped me out.

I romanced Liara, many, many times.

OT: I wouldn't say promoting is the right word, but perhaps they're encouraging it.

Don't think of the puny humans as spouses; instead see them as sex-slaves, intended solely for your amusement. Everyone knows a true warrior's love lies in battle.

I personally don't care whether or not we can marry inter-species-ially, as long as I can stap people in the face and steal all their stuff.

pulse2:
So apparently you can marry in Skyrim, this news is old now, you can marry same sexes too! This news is also old now. But has anyone stopped to think about the animal races marrying humans? :/ Now of course I'd love to demonstrate my male ego by playing as a Tiger, therefore the Khajiit perfectly represents what I'm about :D But there's something a little strange about marrying a female lizard (argonian) or heck even a human species :/ Will I ever get used to this? Will you ever get used to this? What do you think?

(Lets not get all serious, I really don't care that much, just thought it would be an entertaining topic)

-_- Lizard wife in a pink dress with lipstick on, horrifying mental image.

I just know there's a bestiality forum somewhere on the internet talking about how exciting this news is, lol

I'm fairly certain bestiality has more to do with unintelligent animals who are unable to consent as people would. Yes, they can be conditioned to commit sexual acts and seemingly enjoy them, but they're not actually making that decision. You're training them to do so. If you're not even doing that, then you're just using them for your own pleasure.

In Skyrim, in this regard, I don't think it would at all be considered bestiality. What would it be? Just... interspecies sex.

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