Resident Evil 6, Sherry Birkin and the Cure

Lengthy Labyrinth Levels Littered with Corpses.

No, but in all seriousness; Who here in the Escapist Forums would like to see Sherry Birkin risking life and limb in the newest installment of Biohazard with little more than a combat knife, Her (Inherently Brilliant) intellect, and a Baretta she probably inherited from Claire?

I think the FPS bullshit needs to stop, and who better than a young blonde kid who nearly got raped by her Zombified G-virus Father to show us the way to a new and better Resident Evil.

PS: Capcom won't care anyway so Might as well say what you want.

As much as i love Resident Evil and i really do it needs to not use 4's camera angle and somewhat silly gameplay tactics but you suggested a combat knife which doesn't exactly sound exciting and fair since all Resi games have involved the use of guns but the game would be nice if it actually had T-Virus zombies again instead of some mind control bullshit.

As far as enemies concerned we'll only be seeing zombies again if a source outside of Umbrella screws with their black market bought T-Virus. Though with RE5's gameplay and a screen full of zombies it'd be interesting to see what Capcom could to with Resident Evil.

Probably best at this point would be for Capcom to release something with some life to it. It'd be really awesome if they released an Outbreak File #3. With today's online community it would be a brilliant experience. But we'll see how Raccoon City turns out eh?

Personally I want to see more of Billy and Rebecca. What became of them after the Mansion Incident and Raccoon City? I would imagine that Rebecca would have joined the BSAA and possibly recommended Billy, him being a trained soldier and a survivor himself. I should think that future games will either focus on other BSAA members, fresh or familiar faces, and new situations they have to deal with.

Resident Evil needs, first and foremost, a reboot story wise. Aside from pursuing pointless little loose-ends, there is no reason to keep going with the current cast of characters and the current setting, as everything worth resolving has be resolved. Umbrella's dead, Wesker is dead, the Plaga threat is done. No need to keep going.

Following that, if they plan on keeping the same sort of gameplay the series has traditionally had, I'd recommend staying with the RE5 camera/control scheme. It works well, though I would personally change the inventory back to the way it was in RE4. They both work, I just prefer the Attache Case for min/max reasons >__>.

1. In RE6 you can play as Birkin or Redfield
2. RE isn't a horror series anymore (i don't like it either but it's the truth)
3.RE6 is the last RE before the reboot so they are probably gonna end it with the most action-packed bang ever

Er...Sherry Birkin was raped by William Birkin. (In the mouth!)

She also became pregnant from that. (We're going good places with this...)

So yeah. Sherry is actually locked away in some top secret government facility. According to the data files in RE5 anyway. As is Manuela from Darkside Chronicles.

Billy died in the Raccoon City Forest. Everyone else is kind of obvious. Anyway, yeah, if a new RE game is going to happen that isn't a prequel, it'll have to be a reboot. Which technically Operation Raccoon City is, I guess. But that's more of a 'What if' type of thing.

Azure-Supernova:

Personally I want to see more of Billy and Rebecca. What became of them after the Mansion Incident and Raccoon City? I would imagine that Rebecca would have joined the BSAA and possibly recommended Billy, him being a trained soldier and a survivor himself. I should think that future games will either focus on other BSAA members, fresh or familiar faces, and new situations they have to deal with.

If I not mistaken, in the series cannon, both Billy and Rebecca are dead...

Man this sucks, do they really need Resident Evil 6? Can they just reboot it and fix this mess that has became the series?

On other hand, they may add things from the movies series... Oh god... Resident Evil is fucked either way, isn't?

Diablo2000:

Mas this sucks, do they really need Resident Evil 6? Can they just reboot it and fix this mess that has became the series?

On other hand, they may add things from the movies series... Oh god... Resident Evil is fucked either way, isn't?

How hard do you want me to laugh? A lot? A little? Start with one and work into another?

Seriously though, I'm an RE fan that bought the bloody books and I can't make sense of that story line going on in the games/books world, let alone the Movie alternate universe they're running around with. Re-boot is the ONLY way they can make sense. A reboot to this game that is the same as napalm is to gardening.

Diablo2000:
If I not mistaken, in the series cannon, both Billy and Rebecca are dead...

Source? Rebecca was still alive during the events of Resident Evil 2 as evidenced by 'Rebecca's Report':

On July 23rd, an MP vehicle was found inside the Arklay Mountains. Corpses of MP members and an unidentified body were found near the vehicle. According to the information from military authorities, the unidentified body was identified as former 2nd Lieutenant Billy Coen (mispelled "Koen"), who was sentenced the death penalty following a court-martial on July 22nd.

While Coen was on transfer via Marine MP escort, they must have experienced some kind of accident. The corpses were severely mauled, apparently torn apart by unidentified wild animals. The following day we returned to the location to recover the bodies but they were nowhere to be found. Military authorities have requested that we turn over Coen's body as proof of his death, but due to the circumstances described above, it will be a difficult task to recover the corpse. I am requesting that this case be temporarily closed until further notice.

Raccoon City Police Department

S.T.A.R.S. Bravo Team
Rebecca Chambers

And given that Claire, Chris, Jill and Leon made it out and if I'm not mistaken there's a file in RE5 that has her down as being one of the last remaining S.T.A.R.S. members. Billy is even more of a mystery though. He was never mentioned again and judging from Rebecca's report (which was false) he's considered dead by authority.

But if Capcom really do insist on twisting and turning the already convoluted mess that is the Resident Evil canon, there needs to be a definitive ending before they reboot.

IlikeLolis:
Lengthy Labyrinth Levels Littered with Corpses.

No, but in all seriousness; Who here in the Escapist Forums would like to see Sherry Birkin risking life and limb in the newest installment of Biohazard with little more than a combat knife, Her (Inherently Brilliant) intellect, and a Baretta she probably inherited from Claire?

Few things-
A: Sherry would have to be older, making the characters ALL older, Sherry needs to be about 15-16 to stand a chance.
B: Combat knives suck and
C: She wouldn't "Inherit" a "Baretta" from Claire, because firstly it's "Beretta" with an E and Claire never used a Beretta when she met Sherry, her gun in RE2 was a Browning HP

Azure-Supernova:

Diablo2000:
If I not mistaken, in the series cannon, both Billy and Rebecca are dead...

Source? Rebecca was still alive during the events of Resident Evil 2 as evidenced by 'Rebecca's Report':

On July 23rd, an MP vehicle was found inside the Arklay Mountains. Corpses of MP members and an unidentified body were found near the vehicle. According to the information from military authorities, the unidentified body was identified as former 2nd Lieutenant Billy Coen (mispelled "Koen"), who was sentenced the death penalty following a court-martial on July 22nd.

While Coen was on transfer via Marine MP escort, they must have experienced some kind of accident. The corpses were severely mauled, apparently torn apart by unidentified wild animals. The following day we returned to the location to recover the bodies but they were nowhere to be found. Military authorities have requested that we turn over Coen's body as proof of his death, but due to the circumstances described above, it will be a difficult task to recover the corpse. I am requesting that this case be temporarily closed until further notice.

Raccoon City Police Department

S.T.A.R.S. Bravo Team
Rebecca Chambers

And given that Claire, Chris, Jill and Leon made it out and if I'm not mistaken there's a file in RE5 that has her down as being one of the last remaining S.T.A.R.S. members. Billy is even more of a mystery though. He was never mentioned again and judging from Rebecca's report (which was false) he's considered dead by authority.

But if Capcom really do insist on twisting and turning the already convoluted mess that is the Resident Evil canon, there needs to be a definitive ending before they reboot.

The source it's "random stuff that I read on wikipedia"... I think it was while I was reading about some of the books, but I don't know if they are considerate cannon to the franchise. It's a mess... Better not to give much though.

Diablo2000:

The source it's "random stuff that I read on wikipedia"... I think it was while I was reading about some of the books, but I don't know if they are considerate cannon to the franchise. It's a mess... Better not to give much though.

It is. Maybe one day we'll get a nice flowchart from Capcom that will clear everything up. That's a good idea for their next Resident Evil title, a huge poster that chronicles the canon of the entire series... better clear some wall space!

Hey yeah...what happened to Sherry Birkin? Also; what happened to Barry Burton, Rebecca Chambers, Billy Coen, Ada Wong, Carlos Oliveira....and HUNK.

Dang...if Capcom can't cook up a decent story with the main characters and the abovementioned (especially Sherry) then they need to call it quits and sell the rights to the franchise.

Manji187:
Hey yeah...what happened to Sherry Birkin? Also; what happened to Barry Burton, Rebecca Chambers, Billy Coen, Ada Wong, Carlos Oliveira....and HUNK.

Dang...if Capcom can't cook up a decent story with the main characters and the abovementioned (especially Sherry) then they need to call it quits and sell the rights to the franchise.

Sherry Birkin is, as I said, in a Government facility.

Burton was sent to rescue Leon on one of his missions and, Resident Evil being Resident Evil, it turns into a giant clusterfuck and everyone dies besides Barry, Leon, and a young girl named Lucia (Who was a survivor of the incident). After it's over, Barry adopts Lucia and goes to be a father or whatever.

Rebecca wrote an official report on what happened in Raccoon City and then 'retired'. (She basically re-integrated back into society and stayed away from anything dealing with the zombies/BOWs)

Billy died in the Raccoon City Forest shortly after the end of Zero.

Ada...no idea. A few files in RE5 mentioned that she was still working for Wesker, but Wesker is dead now. So...

Carlos is an unknown as well. Never mentioned again after 3.

I'm going to guess because it's CAPCOM, it's going to be a reboot again of the series.
Because CAPCOM is like that.

Yeah capcom really need to start over, there are so many gaps in the story, plotholes, loose ends and missing characters who seem to have dissappeared into the fucking abyss (Barry, Ada, Rebbecca etc.) that the only way to make anything decent of all this crap is to flush it down the toilet and start over. This time with a story that makes sence. And ya'know make it SCARY again instead of mowing down brainwashed people.

I honestly miss the desperation you felt during the first few games: "For the love of God, I can take another zombie but if another Crimson-Head shows up, I will burst into tears because I have 10 more bullets and no herbs" kinda thing.
I'd like to see what happened to Sherry, what happened to Steve Burnside's body and maybe tie up all the loose ends in one great game to finish it all. It probably won't happen but I can dream.

Well RE6 will be the first one you can move and shoot, apparently.
But i personally think the only think they should change is say go back to the RE4 briefcase thing and make less broken final bosses (idont like the RE5 final boss, i think it relys too much on luck).

Ok there is the complaint that its not scary anymore, but i donth think resident evil has ever been scary, fun yes, scary, not so much.
Well, besides the story, cause its getting to the point where not only do i have trouble following it with a story guide, but im not sure how much of it is taking the mick.
Also random bits of RE5 in the last film for little or no reason...

Anyways, if rumours are true of a reboot afterwards, then i can see then tying up every loose end ever in the manner of mgs 4 and while it might be fun to have the whole gang running around, that would most likely end up a bit of a mess story wise like RE5 did at points.

dickywebster:
Well RE6 will be the first one you can move and shoot, apparently.

Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City will let you run and gun.

As did the Outbreak games.

Well damn.

Anyone else disappointed by the absence of The Cure in this thread?

IlikeLolis:
Lengthy Labyrinth Levels Littered with Corpses.

No, but in all seriousness; Who here in the Escapist Forums would like to see Sherry Birkin risking life and limb in the newest installment of Biohazard with little more than a combat knife, Her (Inherently Brilliant) intellect, and a Baretta she probably inherited from Claire?

I think the FPS bullshit needs to stop, and who better than a young blonde kid who nearly got raped by her Zombified G-virus Father to show us the way to a new and better Resident Evil.

PS: Capcom won't care anyway so Might as well say what you want.

1) Redident Evil 4 was the best in the series. More please.
2) No one liked Sherry Burkin.
3) NO ONE LIKED SHERRY BURKIN.
4) Resident Evil stopped being about the T-Virus a while ago.
5) Resident Evil has always been more about action than 'survival horror.' Yes, it coined the phrase, but other games since then have become much better horror franchises, while RE embraced its campy action nature, which has lead to better RE gameplay.

Kopikatsu:
Billy died in the Raccoon City Forest shortly after the end of Zero.

Err, we have no confirmation of that. The only thing we have is Rebecca's report from the N64 RE2, but that was just covering for Billy. She even says at the end of Zero that she'd report him as dead, which is why she took his dog tags.

So offically, all we know is he walked into the forest and was never heard from again. Wether that's because he died or because he went to ground we don't know.

Diablo2000:
The source it's "random stuff that I read on wikipedia"... I think it was while I was reading about some of the books, but I don't know if they are considerate cannon to the franchise. It's a mess... Better not to give much though.

The books are considered non-canon, as they condritict the games in many ways.

Anyway, Rebecca is still alive, but presumably retired.

It'll be quite interesting to see Sherry Birkin all grown up and badass and, honestly, I've never thought about that before >.>'

Still, nobody has ben more badass than Billy (except Leon of course) and I'd like to see him return, and maybe Rebecca too, just for nostalgia sake.

As for gameplay... I really don't know at this point, as much as I loved 4 and 5, the "behind the shoulder" camera is still great, but I'd like to see the traditional gameplay return, lots of stupid puzzles and less enemies, but more dangerous. And of course, lots of good scares.

I want the series to be scary again. They need to put back the "Horror" in Survival horror.

SupahGamuh:
It'll be quite interesting to see Sherry Birkin all grown up and badass and, honestly, I've never thought about that before >.>'

Still, nobody has ben more badass than Billy (except Leon of course) and I'd like to see him return, and maybe Rebecca too, just for nostalgia sake.

As for gameplay... I really don't know at this point, as much as I loved 4 and 5, the "behind the shoulder" camera is still great, but I'd like to see the traditional gameplay return, lots of stupid puzzles and less enemies, but more dangerous. And of course, lots of good scares.

I want the series to be scary again. They need to put back the "Horror" in Survival horror.

Resident Evil was never Survival Horror. MAYBE RE1. But certainly not RE2+.

RE2 had some kind of Battle Mode, as I recall, where you had to kill 100 BOWs. Also, by starting on a lower difficulty, you started with a machinegun that had infinite ammo. ALSO ALSO, it gave you more than enough ammo to kill everything in the game and then some even on the hardest difficulty.

None of that screams 'Survival Horror' to me.

Kopikatsu:
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Well, maybe it wasn't scary for you, but last time I checked, 2 and 3 had a couple of good scares, to not spoil anything, in 2 there are a couple of moments that are tense building, just waiting for something to jump out and also in 3, the first time I finished it, Nemesis was quite scary and the single thought that he was chasing me and he could get pretty much anywhere to kill me was certainly scary.

Also, in the Cube REmake, they did intensify the suspense with the Crimson Heads and other nasties. So, yeah, the series used to be scary. Also, I scare myself pretty easily >.>'

SupahGamuh:

Kopikatsu:
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Well, maybe it wasn't scary for you, but last time I checked, 2 and 3 had a couple of good scares, to not spoil anything, in 2 there are a couple of moments that are tense building, just waiting for something to jump out and also in 3, the first time I finished it, Nemesis was quite scary and the single thought that he was chasing me and he could get pretty much anywhere to kill me was certainly scary.

Also, in the Cube REmake, they did intensify the suspense with the Crimson Heads and other nasties. So, yeah, the series used to be scary. Also, I scare myself pretty easily >.>'

Yes, but scary isn't the same as survival horror. Which was my point.

Something like Amnesia: The Dark Descent...now that's survival horror. But Resident Evil? Never happened.

Kopikatsu:
Snip.

I think I see where are you going. Well, back when the game was released, it was pretty much a novelty, I know that other games got the "Survival Horror" genre word by word, especially Amnesia, heck, I still can't get myself to finish that game, but belive it or not, they were survival horror games.

The first one is the best example of the context, maybe it wasn't that much of SH with 2, 3 and the others, but they shared a common trait. You didn't have a lot of space in your inventory, so you couldn't carry more than 3 or 4 weapons at most, same with ammunition and herbs/sprays, so, they were pretty scarce and the BOWs were pretty hard to kill, making you to decide wether to face them or just run away.

Admitedly, that was if you chose Hard difficulty and I know, first hand, how easy RE 2 and 3 can be in Rookie (Dual Shock edition, it was a fancy name for Super Easy) and Normal mode.

So yeah, by today's standards, they may be old and aren't much of "survival horror" today as they were back then, especially if we compare them to Amnesia, wich is night and day (or dark?).

So yeah, they were Survival Horror, in a different context compared to Amnesia (wich I admit, first hand, is WAY scarier) and definitively scarier than both Dead Space games, wich they dare to call them "Survival Horror".

Shadow-Phoenix:
The game would be nice if it actually had T-Virus zombies again instead of some mind control bullshit.

It was always about mind control bullshit. The T-virus was to create a super soldier(Tyrant) that can be controlled. Las Plagas just moved the mind control to a perfected stage.

Kopikatsu:

Manji187:
Hey yeah...what happened to Sherry Birkin? Also; what happened to Barry Burton, Rebecca Chambers, Billy Coen, Ada Wong, Carlos Oliveira....and HUNK.

Dang...if Capcom can't cook up a decent story with the main characters and the abovementioned (especially Sherry) then they need to call it quits and sell the rights to the franchise.

Sherry Birkin is, as I said, in a Government facility.

Burton was sent to rescue Leon on one of his missions and, Resident Evil being Resident Evil, it turns into a giant clusterfuck and everyone dies besides Barry, Leon, and a young girl named Lucia (Who was a survivor of the incident). After it's over, Barry adopts Lucia and goes to be a father or whatever.

Rebecca wrote an official report on what happened in Raccoon City and then 'retired'. (She basically re-integrated back into society and stayed away from anything dealing with the zombies/BOWs)

Billy died in the Raccoon City Forest shortly after the end of Zero.

Ada...no idea. A few files in RE5 mentioned that she was still working for Wesker, but Wesker is dead now. So...

Carlos is an unknown as well. Never mentioned again after 3.

Is Billy really dead? Because the RE wiki notes his status as "unknown". Didn't Rebecca lie in the report or something? I don't know...haven't finished RE0.

Still...take Sherry, Ada, Leon and Claire and you've got yourself a story.

sheic99:

Shadow-Phoenix:
The game would be nice if it actually had T-Virus zombies again instead of some mind control bullshit.

It was always about mind control bullshit. The T-virus was to create a super soldier(Tyrant) that can be controlled. Las Plagas just moved the mind control to a perfected stage.

That was the G-Virus that creates the Tyrant as the T-Virus merely infected people and turned them into "mindless ravenous zombies" and it has always been a "zombie game" not a "mind control game".

Also i hated Resi 4 and only liked 5 because of Wesker.

GigaHz:
Well damn.

Anyone else disappointed by the absence of The Cure in this thread?

yes, yes very much.

and the cure doing a soundtrack for a survival horror would be fun.

Unless they advance the storyline by a decade or two, there's no way I'm gonna be playing Sherry as a 17 year old amazon.

And about the gameplay style - RE4 changed the way the series is played. It turned it into an arcade corridor shooter where you get points for killing enemies and then you can redeem those points for upgrades and other resources. The more enemies you kill, the more enemies you could kill. I never thought I'd see an RE game that actually encouraged to the player to kill enemies.

Basically it turned RE away from what it used to be - a slow paced survival horror game centered around a huge game hub which revolved around backtracking and exploring. Lets also not forget the puzzles.

RE Revelations is taking a step into the right direction again, however I still hate the over the shoulder view.

Kopikatsu:

dickywebster:
Well RE6 will be the first one you can move and shoot, apparently.

Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City will let you run and gun.

As did the Outbreak games.

Only knew about the outbreak ones vaguely, been a while since i played them. While i was only making a point about claimed capcom have made about the game thats ive come across, i was also kinda drunk at that point, but thanks for pointing me in the right diresction none the less :D

 

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