Pair rape and Murder a girl. Then confess in WoW.

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Remember this Story? If you don't, basically, two kids raped and murdered a girl, finding no suitable outlets to confess, they confessed on WoW.
Yeah, chatlogs and those stuffs have been released.
Below is a quote from this article which is a fantastic write-up on the whole situation by the way.

Offline, Kruse's and Cam's lives were growing increasingly dark. They were often high. They experimented with drinking blood and bodily fluids. Friends reported hearing Cam screaming at his family at home, and Kruse, still living alone with his mother, was resistant to any supervision at all.
They visited sadistic porn sites, and in their frequent chats with each other online, they began fantasizing about rape and bondage.

The actual murder took place after the Two Friends lured their other friend, Kimberly Proctor, when her mother was away.

In the early hours of that morning, Kruse had told Cam he'd use a code phrase-"I think I'm going to make some KD"-a Canadian abbreviation for Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Dinner-when he was ready to attack. Shortly after arriving at the house, the boys struck, kicking and hitting Kim as they bound her hands and ankles. Kruse stuffed a sock in Kim's mouth, which he then wrapped in duct tape. The two raped and beat Kim for hours until she died from suffocation. They mutilated her with a knife and stuffed refuse, including a four-inch-long lollipop stick, into her vagina and anus. They moved her body to a freezer in Kruse's garage.

One of the pair even tried to call an ex-girlfriend and lure her there too, most likely to do the same thing to her.

Kim's parents would prefer to see the boys die for their crime, but there is no death penalty in Canada. "Like when an animal is sick, you put them down," Lucy Proctor told me. "They're not even animals. I don't like to use that [word] because Kim was a huge animal person. These two are monsters."

EDIT: In my stupidity, I called this the WoW murders, the Kotaku Article I found this from had this as the title, granted this is more sensationalistic and I do agree it isn't even related to games and only having a small link, I exploited it. I shall rename the thread title to something more suitable.
Sources: Kotaku.
Vanity Fair. (The Aforementioned Fantastic Write-up)

Wow, That is sad.
So they where bragging about it or couldnt live with the guilt?
Those kids sound sick, Not enough for an insanity defense but they sound like they needed some form of help/

This...
I have nothing to say about this.
It's just horrible and those 2 should be locked away and never be out on the streets.
I'm sure someone is going to blame WoW, or video games for this.
But like Alice Cooper once said:
"It's not the games that I play the movies I see the music I dig
I'm just a wicked young man"

So what has this got to do with Wow?

They simply chatted on Wow about their planned crime.

As if the anti-social shut-in stereotype of people who play WoW didn't need to be strengthened any further...

Sadly in Canada we will get bleeding heart lawyers, judges, and juries who will say that its not their fault and give em maybe 10 years in prison.

Because we dont have life sentences either, that is right those bastards could come out of jail any day really. Because in Canada no matter the crime you commit someone on CBC will cry for you and then you get slapped on the wrist.

I dont support the death sentence but those bastards should be stuffed into the deepest darkest cell and left there alone till the end of their days.

Again sadly in Canada we dont act mean to people, even murderous rapists. However just watch as the tragic sob story of their lives come to light as they get sent home. Some days I wish Canada had some American laws in place.

CardinalPiggles:
So what has this got to do with Wow?

They simply chatted on Wow about their planned crime.

It does relate to the media's perception of videogames, this may be tangentially related and on hindsight I might of done better to put it in off-topic, this story shows the psyche behind a murder, with videogames being a small part of it, but I guarantee you that places that did report on this story will trumpet the words "Videogames" loudly.

this is just terrible these boys got what they deserved

tmande2nd:
Sadly in Canada we will get bleeding heart lawyers, judges, and juries who will say that its not their fault and give em maybe 10 years in prison.

For what they did I can't imagine they will survive those 10 years, or even one for that matter.

Mr.K.:

tmande2nd:
Sadly in Canada we will get bleeding heart lawyers, judges, and juries who will say that its not their fault and give em maybe 10 years in prison.

For what they did I can't imagine they will survive those 10 years, or even one for that matter.

Pretty much this. The inmates do not like people like them. They are screwed, both figuratively and literally.

Yeah, those kids are monsters. They deserve to rot in jail forever.

That's horrible. They're 16 and 17 years old too, I don't even know what to say to that. Hopefully they'll get proper anger management help and suffer like they deserve to when people find out what they did.

I would sincerely hope you're wrong there, those two don't deserve to see daylight ever again. (By which I mean a life in prison)

Pedro The Hutt:
I would sincerely hope you're wrong there, those two don't deserve to see daylight ever again. (By which I mean a life in prison)

They deserve to spend a hell of a long time there though. 15-20 years at least, assuming they show remorse and learn to control their anger.

I am Canadian and I feel like making KD on them....

This is horrible. I hope these two get the death penalty for doing something as stupid and inhuman like this.

well, I hope canadians can sleep happy at night knowing these two will come back out of prison. EDIT: actually, looking up what Canada's policy is on life imprisonment they have a somewhat real chance of never getting out again. then again, you have to ask if Canada is happy to pay for them to wait until they die in prison.

Slight off topic before I get on topic, i dont tihnk I've ever actually heard of someone with the name procter that wasnt from the salem witch trials or a fictional character.

Now more OT, Im surprised the two had enough class to post on WoW rather than just do it on 4chan (though there they might get applause ofr their actions if they included pics :\).

Of course this is not mentioning the terrible and horrible depravity of the situation, but that doesnt need to be said i would hope.

Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

This is the kind of thing that makes me wish I was alone with them and an aluminum baseball bat. It's not just that they raped and killed her, it's that they took two hours to do it. That means it wasn't just a spur of the moment thing, it's something they were thoroughly enjoying. There's no way these two deserve to ever be part of society again. I give them 2 months in general population before they're found dead.

tmande2nd:
Sadly in Canada we will get bleeding heart lawyers, judges, and juries who will say that its not their fault and give em maybe 10 years in prison.

Because we dont have life sentences either, that is right those bastards could come out of jail any day really. Because in Canada no matter the crime you commit someone on CBC will cry for you and then you get slapped on the wrist.

I dont support the death sentence but those bastards should be stuffed into the deepest darkest cell and left there alone till the end of their days.

Again sadly in Canada we dont act mean to people, even murderous rapists. However just watch as the tragic sob story of their lives come to light as they get sent home. Some days I wish Canada had some American laws in place.

As an American, I can say I wish we had some Canadian policies in place.. like health care... but I digress. I agree, these guys should be thrown into the deepest, dankest cells and left there to rot. I didn't know Canada doesn't allow life sentences, though the no death penalty makes sense. I don't know the laws of my state well enough to know if this would meet the statute for the death penalty.. but some people are just broken, and no amount of therapy or chemical castration can fix that. Not to mention chemical castration can be overcome with other chemicals (testosterone, for one). Bah.. sometimes the world just doesn't need to keep these bad people in it.

Comando96:
Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

Lock em in a cell and let them go insane rubbing their shit on the walls.

That's what happens to most of the sick fucks in isolation, death is to good for some people.

Edit: Though this happened in Canada, so the most they might get is 15 years. Hopefully someone will lynch em.

This just in: Child plays with psychopaths and loses her life. I mean the entire thing screams "ignorant kid teases psychopaths, thinks they are her friends, and then gets killed by them". Now my parents were the kind that forgot i existed(until work needed doing) but even they would have stepped in if i was friends with a psychopath. Hell when my dad was working 98% of his waking hours he still had time to look into the eyes of my older sisters boyfriend and see he was no good.

Wicked fail parenting for not keeping the daughter from psychopaths.

Edit: When i say psychopaths i am acknowledging the boys are fucking insane, knew what they were doing(this was premeditated as fuck), and that most of the blame falls on them and them alone.

RT-Medic-with-shotgun:
This just in: Child plays with psychopaths and loses her life. I mean the entire thing screams "ignorant kid teases psychopaths, thinks they are her friends, and then gets killed by them". Now my parents were the kind that forgot i existed(until work needed doing) but even they would have stepped in if i was friends with a psychopath. Hell when my dad was working 98% of his waking hours he still had time to look into the eyes of my older sisters boyfriend and see he was no good.

Wicked fail parenting on the half of the parents for not keeping the daughter from psychopaths.

I do hope you're not trying to say that the blame for this falls on the parents. The only people responsible for the boys' actions are the boys themselves.

DiMono:

RT-Medic-with-shotgun:
This just in: Child plays with psychopaths and loses her life. I mean the entire thing screams "ignorant kid teases psychopaths, thinks they are her friends, and then gets killed by them". Now my parents were the kind that forgot i existed(until work needed doing) but even they would have stepped in if i was friends with a psychopath. Hell when my dad was working 98% of his waking hours he still had time to look into the eyes of my older sisters boyfriend and see he was no good.

Wicked fail parenting on the half of the parents for not keeping the daughter from psychopaths.

I do hope you're not trying to say that the blame for this falls on the parents. The only people responsible for the boys' actions are the boys themselves.

If i meant that i wouldn't have demeaned the psychopaths(PSSST that's the two boys.

BTW the fuckers had the mounties after them. THE GOD DAMN MOUNTIES MAN! GAME OVER!

Patrick_and_the_ricks:

Comando96:
Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

Lock em in a cell and let them go insane rubbing their shit on the walls.

That's what happens to most of the sick fucks in isolation, death is to good for some people.

These "things" are already insane. Send'em to Egyptian prison and say they're child molesters. All they deserve is a long life of pain.

The kids got life in prison. If you read the article, on the thrid page, it says they did indeed get a life sentence, then on the last page they are moving to an adult facility. I would suggest reading the entire article.

From the article:

The hearing was swift. Both boys would be transferred to adult facilities where, the prosecutor pointed out, a more comprehensive sexual-offender-treatment program is offered, including chemical castration (a controversial drug-treatment plan used in Canada to reduce the likelihood of recidivism in sex crimes).

I'm glad these two got life. When they get transferred to the new facility, I hope the other inmates treat them with the same respect they treated the girl.

When it comes to stuff like this the death penalty makes sense. This is a horrifying thing.
On another note I know that someone out there is going to take this and blame the game for it. It would be truly ignorant to but someone will.

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What? How am I supposed to cube my "jackrolled"?

DVS BSTrD:

Patrick_and_the_ricks:

Comando96:
Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

Lock em in a cell and let them go insane rubbing their shit on the walls.

That's what happens to most of the sick fucks in isolation, death is to good for some people.

These "things" are already insane. Send'em to Egyptian prison and say they're child molesters. All they deserve is a long life of pain.

Okay I know this is serious, but I lol'd.

What about a Mexican Prison? The water makes you crap blood.

Patrick_and_the_ricks:

Comando96:
Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

Lock em in a cell and let them go insane rubbing their shit on the walls.

That's what happens to most of the sick fucks in isolation, death is to good for some people.

I don't ever think people should suffer for the sake of suffering as they are still being paid to be alive. Have them taken out of the equation and if there is a hell, they'll be going to it, if there are Gods then who knows what awaits them. If there is nothing... then its more resources for the here and now.

Comando96:
Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

Well Rorschach, would you chain them to a furnace and burn the building down?

OT. This is just despicable. Bring the bastards to Ontario and throw them in to rot with Russel Williams. They could share stories the sick fucks.

Well.. Im not saying there IS a justification for this, but if they had to do something like this, did they really have to do it to someone that was cute like that? I mean what? was
image not available? /sigh

On a serious note, yes tragedy, and as much as I hate defending WoW.. its not WoWs fault. Wow was likely the only think keeping these kids from doing something this insane sooner.

Comando96:

Patrick_and_the_ricks:

Comando96:
Most of the time I think the Death Penalty is a bad thing...
...here...
Not at all...

Psychopaths who now have a taste for murder and rape...

Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.
What do you do when Boys do things that is below a dog?

Lock em in a cell and let them go insane rubbing their shit on the walls.

That's what happens to most of the sick fucks in isolation, death is to good for some people.

I don't ever think people should suffer for the sake of suffering as they are still being paid to be alive. Have them taken out of the equation and if there is a hell, they'll be going to it, if there are Gods then who knows what awaits them. If there is nothing... then its more resources for the here and now.

Try and say that to the victim man.

Man, the Escapist always screws up my day with articles like this.
There's really nothing I can say..
It's disgusting. So, so disgusting. I wish these guys get a punishment worse than death, regardless of any mental problems and sicknesses they might have.

RT-Medic-with-shotgun:
This just in: Child plays with psychopaths and loses her life. I mean the entire thing screams "ignorant kid teases psychopaths, thinks they are her friends, and then gets killed by them". Now my parents were the kind that forgot i existed(until work needed doing) but even they would have stepped in if i was friends with a psychopath. Hell when my dad was working 98% of his waking hours he still had time to look into the eyes of my older sisters boyfriend and see he was no good.

Wicked fail parenting for not keeping the daughter from psychopaths.

Edit: When i say psychopaths i am acknowledging the boys are fucking insane, knew what they were doing(this was premeditated as fuck), and that most of the blame falls on them and them alone.

How do we know that anyone knew?
A psychopath can be one clever manipulative bastard, after all.

They need to be put in a very bad prison where they'll get brutalized and violently raped daily. That is exactly what needs to happen.

Pearwood:

Pedro The Hutt:
I would sincerely hope you're wrong there, those two don't deserve to see daylight ever again. (By which I mean a life in prison)

They deserve to spend a hell of a long time there though. 15-20 years at least, assuming they show remorse and learn to control their anger.

Finally, Someone who realizes that crime isnt black and white. That sometimes there are circumstances that the criminal cannot control.
Granted what they did was wrong and they deserve some hard time but from the sound of this these are no ordinary rapists, These are people with deep underlying psychological conditions that may have been exacerbated by social conditions.

hotsauceman:

Pearwood:

Pedro The Hutt:
I would sincerely hope you're wrong there, those two don't deserve to see daylight ever again. (By which I mean a life in prison)

They deserve to spend a hell of a long time there though. 15-20 years at least, assuming they show remorse and learn to control their anger.

Finally, Someone who realizes that crime isnt black and white. That sometimes there are circumstances that the criminal cannot control.
Granted what they did was wrong and they deserve some hard time but from the sound of this these are no ordinary rapists, These are people with deep underlying psychological conditions that may have been exacerbated by social conditions.

I would say they were. The home lives of our to psychos in question were deplorable. And how so are they different? The key factor with most rape(being perpetrated by a known person) is dominance; these two were dominance seeking individuals and combine that with the bad home life and already deplorable mental state and you have a perfect storm for your shitty boat. They were sadists, desired sexual power, desired dominance, and were clearly people defined by anger concealing all that. They are serial rapists ramped up to 11 but stopped before they got to the 2nd victim.

Lumber Barber:
Man, the Escapist always screws up my day with articles like this.
There's really nothing I can say..
It's disgusting. So, so disgusting. I wish these guys get a punishment worse than death, regardless of any mental problems and sicknesses they might have.

RT-Medic-with-shotgun:
This just in: Child plays with psychopaths and loses her life. I mean the entire thing screams "ignorant kid teases psychopaths, thinks they are her friends, and then gets killed by them". Now my parents were the kind that forgot i existed(until work needed doing) but even they would have stepped in if i was friends with a psychopath. Hell when my dad was working 98% of his waking hours he still had time to look into the eyes of my older sisters boyfriend and see he was no good.

Wicked fail parenting for not keeping the daughter from psychopaths.

Edit: When i say psychopaths i am acknowledging the boys are fucking insane, knew what they were doing(this was premeditated as fuck), and that most of the blame falls on them and them alone.

How do we know that anyone knew?
A psychopath can be one clever manipulative bastard, after all.

Granny knew. She told the girl to stay clear and likely told the parents what was going down. Even if they did not know they were psychopaths they should have seen they were violent and troubled individuals from their behavior.

CardinalPiggles:
So what has this got to do with Wow?

They simply chatted on Wow about their planned crime.

^This. But then again, seeing as the OP is seemingly trying to imitate the Escapist writers (for reasons of trying to get hired or satire, I can't actually say, but assuming/hoping the former due to the weight of the thread), he's got the "misleading useless title" part down perfectly.

OT: Absolutely horrifying and disgusting. I fully agree with the girl's mother, those two should be put down like the set of rabid beasts they are. These kind of stories not only make me support the death penalty in certain cases, I wish we still performed public torture-executions to teach those two fucks (and anyone else getting ideas) a lesson by impaling them in a town square.

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