Did anyone love ME3?

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BloatedGuppy:
I'd go as far as to say 98% of the game was straight gold. It's really an excellent game. I have some issues with some of the pacing, and some flat dialogue in parts, and some things I might've done differently, but my expectations were sky high, and a lot of times it actually met them, and that's extraordinary.

I don't HATE the ending. It's not Ultima IX bad. It's not Fallout 3 bad. But given the quality of the game and the series that preceded it, and the emotional connection I, and others, formed with these characters and this world, it's unquestionably the most disappointing ending I've ever experienced. And probably the one I most badly want rectified.

Pretty much what I was going to say although I was more than "disappointed" with the ending. I'm vocal about it but I'm not one of the many calling for Fatwa over this.

Yes I hated the ending but with good reason. The rest of the game(s) leading up to the end are AWESOME (Fanboy? Yep, no denying it) which makes the final 1% more so crushing.

This game...

This game was years in the making when i fell in love with 1.

It gave me a wide range of emotions I haven't really felt with any medium, be it a movie, book or game. It raises the best of questions, the philosophical and moral ones. It makes you laugh, cry, etc.

And even the ending...it's finalistic but open ended enough for me to keep wondering. Which is what I find many people forget when they talk about the ending: Let your god damn imagination fill in the rest. Like the Synthesis ending. It honestly took me a while to get to sleep last night because I was working out what it meant.

But Mass Effect 3? If you've played the first two games, it's probably the first game I've actually shed a tear playing. The worst part is with Bioware games is that you have to set them down for a while before you can go through it again.

While I don't think Mass Effect 3 is the greatest game out there, it's easily one of the most enjoyable experiences I've ever had in gaming I think. Besides the ending, the occasional technical problems and glitches, and the journal not really being helpful, it is a very awesome game. Almost everything else is mostly how you personally feel about certain things. Some people may dislike how planet scanning is now, others may love it.

For example, while I don't feel like the squad members are as forgettable or useless this time around (compared to ME2 anyway), I tend to be conflicted when I try to put a team that balances me out correctly versus a team that will provide the most banter into a certain mission. Others obviously might feel different.

ME3 just does a lot of things right. While I didn't cry, I felt pretty emotional at a lot of things that went down. I was totally sucked into the story and characters since Mass Effect 1, moreso than any other game than I have played. Don't care how you feel about the ending, I feel that everyone should try out this series. I'm glad that I did. =)

You will love every hour of this game, and the endings are by no means bad, they're just disappointing

Just as most others in this thread, I'd say 99% of the game is an incredible experience up until the very last minutes. The ending is not the worst I've seen, but it is definetly not good.

Its not a game without its flaws before that last 1% though, and it becomes clear it is a game where certain shepard "stereotypes" and certain companions are given a lot more love and attention then others. My shepard fit into one of those stereotypes that got a huge ton of attention, especielly because I romanced Liara, and that might possibly be the romance option that is given the most attention throughout the entire trilogy, especielly if you've played the shadowbroker dlc from ME2.
All in all, ME3 feels more of a tribute to ME1, its story and above all its characters then it feels a tribute to ME2, but ME2 is definetly not ignored. Cerberus and TIM being perhaps the major exception as they are given a -ton- of attention.

What strikes me as the most odd about this entire game is the sheer contrast in quality between the first 99% of the game and the ending. It is such a remarkable jump from sheer awesomeness to sheer and utter crap, that its the strongest gutpunch that I've had in a gaming experience. It is almost surreal, and I -really- wonder what Bioware was thinking. Maybe every gifted soul at Bioware called in sick at the last day of game creation, or maybe they've were all indoctrinated from a recovered three-coloured reaper artifact.

Despite all this, I'd call it a must buy, and if Bioware manages to repair the broken ending, then my faith in them will be restored. Until then, I need to find some medigel for my gut.
Maybe the multiplayer section has some.

I would've liked a bit more variety with the squad, and maybe a bit of a tinkering with the end, but overall, I thought it was pretty good.

SecretNegative:

NinjaDeathSlap:

I personally thought that Liara's experience with Thessia and it's aftermath was one of the best examples of character development in the entire series, almost as good as, well, Lair of the Shadow Broker. Mind you, I've always liked Liara and I was romancing her at the time so maybe I'm just biased. Garrus is definitely my second favorite after her though.

Did you have Javik in your game, because I imagine without him Liara's arc probably has less impact?

Ok, I admit, the development on Liara after Thessia was well done. But who's Javik?

The Last Prothean, a squad-mate you get with the From Ashes DLC

It's good, but "Holy crap, this is outstanding" is pushing it. It is really good, but I am hoping something better will eventually come out later in the year.

Ordinaryundone:
I did, completely and totally. The game is a masterpiece. I even like the ending, even if it is a bit on the vague side.

Don't let the outrage dissuade you. Even the more adamant haters will admit that 95% of the game is straight gold.

Oh thank all the Dark Powers of the Multiverse, I'm not the only one that loved Mass Effect 3.

Beliyal:

SurfinTaxt:

Allevil:
Until the last 5 minutes, it was the single greatest gaming experience of my life.

great, what will be the second game youve played in your life?

Why the need for a mean comment like this? It's basically like saying "You are ridiculous for liking this game and your preferences, opinions and interests are shit".

Funny how the white knights come out to play when it's a western rpg.

Now let's see them come out of the woodworks when someone says they like Final Fantasy.

In the short time I've been on this site, SurfinTaxt's predisposition is what's dominant around these parts. So yea... the Escapist is just like every other forum out there.

Wolfgang Ravenna:
This game...

This game was years in the making when i fell in love with 1.

It gave me a wide range of emotions I haven't really felt with any medium, be it a movie, book or game. It raises the best of questions, the philosophical and moral ones. It makes you laugh, cry, etc.

And even the ending...it's finalistic but open ended enough for me to keep wondering. Which is what I find many people forget when they talk about the ending: Let your god damn imagination fill in the rest. Like the Synthesis ending. It honestly took me a while to get to sleep last night because I was working out what it meant.

But Mass Effect 3? If you've played the first two games, it's probably the first game I've actually shed a tear playing. The worst part is with Bioware games is that you have to set them down for a while before you can go through it again.

The ending shouldn't leave things like everything you've fought for throughout 3 games up to the imagination, it should make things like that clear defined and final, that's why it's an ending. That's what we were promised, an amazing definitive ending. What we got was rushed confused excuse for an ending that's riddled with plot holes and continuity errors that blatantly rips off the original Deus Ex and doesn't even bother telling you what your decisions meant for the galaxy.

I love the game, I think it's the best in the series. Except the end. I could do without the end.

As someone who "hates" the ending I will tell you that the game overall is still worth it and a fantastic experience. I would buy and play it again shitty ending and all. I'll likely play through it again a few more times over the next year or two.

However that ending was about as fun as a brick to the face. I probably will just leave my games saved right before that ending unless its fixed. After all it doesn't matter how you play the game since you get all the options/endings so long as you have 5K+ war assets.

Youma:
I bought ME3 based on the escapist's recommendation, and I'm disapointed to say the least. I used to rely on the escapist not to tell me a game is great when it isn't. But maybe it's just my opinion, and they haven't started whoring themselves after all, so if you agree with the reviewer that "holy crap, this game is outstanding", please let me know.

Building Consensus....

Consensus achieved. All but the last five minutes of the games was fantastic. However, if one has not played the previous two games, it will not be as interesting. The main appeal of the game comes from interaction with the characters and building relationships over the course of three games. If a character like dies when you just started the Mass Effect series, it means a lot less than if you've built a relationship with the character.

I loved it, I really did, but I'd have to say I agree with the people who said that it takes the first two to really appreciate. There are numerous scenes in ME3 which fall short in a fresh play-through, with a new character, because many of the old companions don't show up anymore. There's a wealth of emotion and lore and investment which only shows up if you're a long time player of the series, as far as I could see. Of course, there's a bias there, unavoidable. In any case, I don't know if the new player's experience can truly compare to an old player's, but on the other hand, I'm not sure how the writers could've done a better job of balancing out all the choices and events. It's as good as it can be, in my opinion. Including the endings. So there.

I'll quote myself:

Imagine going to a restaurant. There are some pieces you might not like, but in general the food is good.

And as a dessert the cook comes out of the kitchen and shits on your plate.

Damn straight. Ambiguous endings are the best type of all. It ends how you want it to end.
Case in point, were there no Extended Universe, Star Wars ends with the 2nd Death Star blowing and Ewoks... Ur telling me ME3's ending was WORSE?

I'm going through it slowly, and i'm absolutely loving it. I was ready to pan it, but I just can't. Some of the dialogue is beyond awful, but kind of expected that. Really not looking forward to the end though.

I liked it a lot. Well designed. Had a few crashing problems during load screens. Ending seemed kinda arbitrary and pigeon holed, but was the only way to be able to continue using the universe in followup titles. Too many variable were introduced to allow the universe to continue existing bearing the mark of shepards choices

Ending was pathetic, but otherwise the game was stellar.

SecretNegative:

NinjaDeathSlap:

I personally thought that Liara's experience with Thessia and it's aftermath was one of the best examples of character development in the entire series, almost as good as, well, Lair of the Shadow Broker. Mind you, I've always liked Liara and I was romancing her at the time so maybe I'm just biased. Garrus is definitely my second favorite after her though.

Did you have Javik in your game, because I imagine without him Liara's arc probably has less impact?

Ok, I admit, the development on Liara after Thessia was well done. But who's Javik?

He's the character you get from the 'From Ashes' DLC. Do not read on if you don't want spoilers (although how you've managed to avoid them so far anyway is nothing short of a miracle...

I have yet to complete Mass Effect 3, so I have no idea about what the ending is like, or why everyone is bitching about it (But I'll get there eventually). I have tried to avoid as much news about it as possible, and have only glanced at all the rage about the game. Day 1 DLC aside, I honestly do not know why so many people are raging against this game. Because it didn't live up to their impossible expectations? Because it wasn't just a massive stream of all these fanfic idea's everyone has had?

Don't get me wrong, I was converted into a Mass Effect Fanboy after playing the second one, and I think this game tops it in every way. It looks better, it plays better, I've had far greater fun with the combat (and I liked how ME2 played) and the story... I don't think there has been a single mission I've played so far (I'm about 25 hours in) that has felt like filler, or something else just crammed in for the hell of it. Some sections (I'm looking at YOU Tuchanka!) I felt were truely epic, and I have been genuinely moved at certain points.

In fact, I think the weakest parts of the game are the area's where Bioware have obviously been pandering to the fans, or throwing in little in-jokes here and there.

Personally, I don't give a shit whether or not they show Tali's face or not, or any of the other tiny pointless things people seem to bitch about. To those people I say... Get over it.

As for the ending, well, after everything that we've been through in the games, how is it possible for the ending to live up to that. Its not the destination, its the journey. Besides, there are games out there with far worse endings I'm sure (I'm looking at YOU Rage!), though I may change my tune once I complete it.

of course i loved it, the game was excellent the ending just kinda dropped the bar on us

but, i never really liked a good games ending, it was always the journey through the story that made up the game for me.

Absolutely. I loved the whole game including the ending.

IrishAdams:
I haven't played it yet, but I plan to pick it up when it's 20-30 bucks. I'm sure I'll like it though, I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to videogames.

you might be waiting a minimum of at least a year, a year and a half.maybe increase your limit to $45, or else you might not care by the time its that price.

SirBryghtside:
I loved almost all of it, and that includes the ending. Really don't get what the fuss is about.

I understand why people dislike it, but not why they hate it this much. You 'saved' the whole damn galaxy. I don't see how that isn't closure.

I'm gonna go slowly here and spell it out since alot of you seem to be missing the point here. The ending is unsatisfying (for me anyway) because:

A) it's nonsensical and inconclusive. There's a term for that, when you fill in the blanks in fiction with something so vague and ridiculous the audience does a spit take: an http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AssPull

It's called that because as opposed to delivering on the promise the author made to the viewer (to deliver the answers to the various dramatic questions (s)he's been posing along the length of the narrative), they leave you with bullshit. And then when it goes wrong (as it so often does when you patently ignore the expectations of the demographic you're catering to) they're presented with a choice: admit they fucked up and that they owe their viewers- or pretend that their intention was to leave people frustrated and unhappy from the get go. Y'know, as an artistic statement or some shit.

And B) it claims to neatly encapsulate and do justice to not only my personal decisions, but to the themes and motifs of the games themselves up until this point. Which isn't true in either case. Doing justice to a game predicated on choices that have a real impact on the grand finale would mean delivering a grand finale that's ACTIVELY INFLUENCED BY THOSE CHOICES. Which they're not. All the endings are identical, just like any other shitty, non Bioware, non Mass Effect game that only promises to take you on a guided tour of some gray hallways and shoot some vaguely anti democratic bad guys. But this IS Mass Effect, and I DO expect a complex well thought out well written ending. And why? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS PROMISED.

Get it now? What makes me mad is not that, in the end all I got was a brightly colored flash and a credit sequence. What makes me mad is that in the end all I got was a blightly colored flash and a credit sequence, and what I was expecting was something I could conclusively use to prove that video games now actually *are* in fact the unique interactive form of art we've always hoped they could be. But instead we've been told (via silence) that: "too bad, you don't get to be satisfied, but we still get to keep your money and expect you to buy our shit. Also we think you're losers".

Neonsilver:
I'll quote myself:

Imagine going to a restaurant. There are some pieces you might not like, but in general the food is good.

And as a dessert the cook comes out of the kitchen and shits on your plate.

This begs the question...

"What if I leave before dessert gets served?"

It's bloody awesome. Sure, the ending wasn't what I hoped for, but for every moment up to that, I loved it. Standing on Rannoch, getting the turians and krogan to work together, having the Council 'finally' believe me about the Reapers, it was all brilliant. Despite the ending, it now ranks in my top 10 games of all time. Up there with Homeworld, Age of Empires 2, and Spybotics: The Nightfall Incident.

The game is amazing.

The ending is terrible and provides the exact opposite of closure,

but everything else about the game (aside from a few minor bugs) was fantastic.

SirBryghtside:

ChrisRedfield92:

Wolfgang Ravenna:
This game...

This game was years in the making when i fell in love with 1.

It gave me a wide range of emotions I haven't really felt with any medium, be it a movie, book or game. It raises the best of questions, the philosophical and moral ones. It makes you laugh, cry, etc.

And even the ending...it's finalistic but open ended enough for me to keep wondering. Which is what I find many people forget when they talk about the ending: Let your god damn imagination fill in the rest. Like the Synthesis ending. It honestly took me a while to get to sleep last night because I was working out what it meant.

But Mass Effect 3? If you've played the first two games, it's probably the first game I've actually shed a tear playing. The worst part is with Bioware games is that you have to set them down for a while before you can go through it again.

The ending shouldn't leave things like everything you've fought for throughout 3 games up to the imagination, it should make things like that clear defined and final, that's why it's an ending. That's what we were promised, an amazing definitive ending. What we got was rushed confused excuse for an ending that's riddled with plot holes and continuity errors that blatantly rips off the original Deus Ex and doesn't even bother telling you what your decisions meant for the galaxy.

I'm really bloody sick of all these comparisons to Deus Ex. What, apart from the fact that you get a few choices at the end of the game, makes the decisions at all similar?!

What does blowing up every Reaper in the galaxy have to do with a communications blackout? What does fusing synthetics and organics have to do with becoming head of the Illuminati? What does becoming one with a benevolent dictator AI have to do with controlling a bunch of bots and telling them to get the hell of my planet?

Seriously, how do they compare? I'm really not getting this. I admit there were problems with the choices, in that they all lead to pretty much the same cutscene (but the implied differences being huge), but they are not Deus Ex ripoffs. Just... no.

you want to know why everyone calls the ending a Deus Ex ripoff? Because that's exactly what it is. Watch the endings from the original Deus Ex and if you don't see the blatant similarities then we have nothing more to say to each other.
And thank you for supporting my point by saying that the ending implies what happens rather than showing it, which as the end of trilogy is exactly what it should not have done.

artanis_neravar:

Catfood220:
I wouldn't as far as "love", I would go with "Its alright, maybe even good" but then I'm not that far into it judging by the trophies I haven't got.

Something that has bugged me is the way that they keep "killing" characters, only for them to be ok.

Like I said, I've probably not played far enough into it, I had a feeling that people would die, it just amused/annoyed me that they had done the same thing in as many missions.

I did love it. My favourite of the three, easily. As for the ending...well, I didn't hate it, but it was definitely disappointing.

EVERYTHING except the ending was absolutely sublime. Fast paced gameplay, and a gripping narrative.

CrazyCapnMorgan:

Neonsilver:
I'll quote myself:

Imagine going to a restaurant. There are some pieces you might not like, but in general the food is good.

And as a dessert the cook comes out of the kitchen and shits on your plate.

This begs the question...

"What if I leave before dessert gets served?"

Well, many say that the ending is a lot better when you push alt+f4 after

SirBryghtside:
I loved almost all of it, and that includes the ending. Really don't get what the fuss is about.

I understand why people dislike it, but not why they hate it this much. You 'saved' the whole damn galaxy. I don't see how that isn't closure.

My personal opinion about this saving galaxy thing.

I loved ME3 except for all the cut corners, missing animations and items from cut scenes, see vanishing rock from Rannoch; and tali's invis-mask in every scene where it's removed. Also infiltrator tali who vanished in a couple cut scenes with Jacob entirely. And I share the pathetic ending opinion, rest of the game was very fun and emotional. Although, I still find myself missing the wide-open ME1 Mako missions when you could dismount at will.

edit: Neonsilver, I share you opinion on the "saving" galaxy thing. Not what I was fighting for.

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