Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?
If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.
It's easy enough.
Mods generally add content or fix bugs - there's not much point in a mod to adjust the difficulty down in an easy game that has two different kinds of easy mode.
Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?
If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.
It's easy enough.
Modding the game does not equal cheating - it could be any amount of mods - texture mods, changing files to unlock better AA or make the game run smoother.
I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
So now as well as this whole artistic integrity shit, modding a game is now a "betrayal of trust" to the developers?
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Your "trollin" right...right...oh god your being serious.
How is it a "betrayal of trust" in no way has the mod affected online and thus other players. CounterStrike, Team Fortress, Killing Floor all games that began as mods, heck Minecraft started as an Infiminer mod and later expanded into its current form.
Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?
If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.
It's easy enough.
Most of the mods for Mass Effect are texture fixes because of how low res and shitty looking some of the uniforms are. If that's considered cheating then I'd hate to see how you'd react to a god mode hack.
This is ludicrous. I am sorry but when I purchase a product from someone I expect to be able to do with it what I will within the confines of the law. EA can kindly go to hell.
Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?
If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.
It's easy enough.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Not all mods are simple "win everything" hacks, you know. Counter-Strike began as a mod. Team Fortress began as a mod. Killing Floor began as a mod. All of these went on to be commercially successful standalone titles due to their popularity. Let's not forget all the awesome Skyrim mods, either:
Killing mod support like this kills creativity and shuts the door for tons of potentially awesome user created content (like an alternate ending, perhaps?).
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Yeah, how dare those players use their creativity and programming skills to create content of their own! Everybody knows that creativity is the sole purview of corporations! The entitlement!
wintercoat: You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.
Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.
wintercoat: You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.
Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.
wintercoat: You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.
Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.
I didn't buy the game on Origin (360 version here) but unless they made you sign a EULA BEFORE you purchased the product they have no right to do this, but then again there is some shady legal stuff behind Origin anyway. Its best to avoid it all together if you want to buy video games as actual products instead of renting them for an undisclosed amount of time.
wintercoat: You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.
Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.
Are EULA's even legally binding in theory?
Not really. And I've never heard of a case where somebody was taken to court over installing better textures.
endtherapture: Are EULA's even legally binding in theory?
The validity of EULAs has been held up in several trials, while it has also been deemed not so in several others.
The legal status of EULAs in America is "legally binding unless you can win that specific case in court, and even then it only really applies to YOU specifically"
Until the supreme court rules one way or the other its in limbo with the see-saw leaning in the developers favor.
There are other uses of "contracts of adhesion" that are 100% legal in America.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Your "trollin" right...right...oh god your being serious.
How is it a "betrayal of trust" in no way has the mod affected online and thus other players. CounterStrike, Team Fortress, Killing Floor all games that began as mods, heck Minecraft started as an Infiminer mod and later expanded into its current form.
In short, you should not mod unless they say you can. Some games have their own separate file for saving mods into. They made the game, they say what you can and can't do. If they don't want you modding it, don't mod it.
ME3 Eula: Further Restrictions. Your right to use the Software is limited to the license grant above, and you may not otherwise copy, display, seek to disable, distribute, perform, publish, modify, create works from, or use the Software or any component of it, except as expressly authorized by EA.
You signed this when you played the game, so there is nothing wrong with them banning you for breaking the EULA.
Also in the first paragraph
ME3 Eula: This Software is licensed to you, not sold.
ME3 Eula: Further Restrictions. Your right to use the Software is limited to the license grant above, and you may not otherwise copy, display, seek to disable, distribute, perform, publish, modify, create works from, or use the Software or any component of it, except as expressly authorized by EA.
You signed this when you played the game, so there is nothing wrong with them banning you for breaking the EULA.
Did Origin customers sign this during their purchase or after? Honestly they should be entitled to a refund if this information was withheld before their purchase as it is not a common restriction on single player games.
EDIT: Judging by your edit it sounds like it is signed during the purchase. "Licensing" games is another way of saying, "the ball's in our court and we can screw you if we want". Sucks, but that's why you don't use Origin if you want to actually own your games.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Your "trollin" right...right...oh god your being serious.
How is it a "betrayal of trust" in no way has the mod affected online and thus other players. CounterStrike, Team Fortress, Killing Floor all games that began as mods, heck Minecraft started as an Infiminer mod and later expanded into its current form.
In short, you should not mod unless they say you can. Some games have their own separate file for saving mods into. They made the game, they say what you can and can't do. If they don't want you modding it, don't mod it.
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This is why I am increasingly dubious of digital downloads in any medium. They aren't selling you music, books, games or whatever, they are selling you a license to use them. In many cases they reserve the right to take that license away for a variety of reasons. Somebody really needs to start taking a good look at these EULAs from a legal standpoint and figure out if they should be restricted or not.
Did Origin customers sign this during their purchase or after? Honestly they should be entitled to a refund if this information was withheld before their purchase as it is not a common restriction on single player games.
EDIT: Judging by your edit it sounds like it is signed during the purchase. "Licensing" games is another way of saying, "the ball's in our court and we can screw you if we want". Sucks, but that's why you don't use Origin if you want to actually own your games.
Actually not being able to mod is an incredibly common stipulation of EULAs.
Game devs normally just don't give two shits.
Also there hasn't been a game since the late 90's that isnt considered licensed.
Did Origin customers sign this during their purchase or after? Honestly they should be entitled to a refund if this information was withheld before their purchase as it is not a common restriction on single player games.
EDIT: Judging by your edit it sounds like it is signed during the purchase. "Licensing" games is another way of saying, "the ball's in our court and we can screw you if we want". Sucks, but that's why you don't use Origin if you want to actually own your games.
It's signed before you start up the game, not before you confirm the purchase of the game.
Did Origin customers sign this during their purchase or after? Honestly they should be entitled to a refund if this information was withheld before their purchase as it is not a common restriction on single player games.
EDIT: Judging by your edit it sounds like it is signed during the purchase. "Licensing" games is another way of saying, "the ball's in our court and we can screw you if we want". Sucks, but that's why you don't use Origin if you want to actually own your games.
It's signed before you start up the game, not before you confirm the purchase of the game.
Well unless they have a refund policy for this kind of situation I'd say that's poor business etiquette to say the least. Software companies don't make other corporations sign a contract with a bunch of stipulations on it AFTER they've been commissioned. Makes very little sense to me.
Did Origin customers sign this during their purchase or after? Honestly they should be entitled to a refund if this information was withheld before their purchase as it is not a common restriction on single player games.
EDIT: Judging by your edit it sounds like it is signed during the purchase. "Licensing" games is another way of saying, "the ball's in our court and we can screw you if we want". Sucks, but that's why you don't use Origin if you want to actually own your games.
Actually not being able to mod is an incredibly common stipulation of EULAs.
Game devs normally just don't give two shits.
Also there hasn't been a game since the late 90's that isnt considered licensed.
I think its fair that the definition of "licensed" in gaming terms has changed since then. Back in those days publishers did not have a way to track what you were doing and remotely lock your shit down. It was more a way to prevent copyright infringement and piracy.
So... Mods in PC games are frowned upon? Seriously? And where but on the Escapist will you find people standing up and clapping? Seriously, it's like you people HATE gaming.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
A betrayal of the trust they gave me by forcing me to use strict DRM to play their game and asking me for 10 more bucks on the day of release because I might buy a used copy.
Yeah, I feel really guilty for betraying their trust.
Karutomaru: I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.
Your "trollin" right...right...oh god your being serious.
How is it a "betrayal of trust" in no way has the mod affected online and thus other players. CounterStrike, Team Fortress, Killing Floor all games that began as mods, heck Minecraft started as an Infiminer mod and later expanded into its current form.
In short, you should not mod unless they say you can. Some games have their own separate file for saving mods into. They made the game, they say what you can and can't do. If they don't want you modding it, don't mod it.
Jokes on you, im modding it anyway. And since im not retarded, EA wont find out.
this is the stupidest thing i've heard of today. sweet jesus EA you are retarded. in no possibly way is this affecting ANYONE but that persons personal preferences, and creativity, why the hell would anyone possibly defend EA on this? Why?
edit: read up in the thread, and it seems to only be affecting multiplayer "cheaters" which is more than fine with me, however if someone gets caught in the crossfire, that is very unfortunate, and EA should do what they can to get that person there account up and running ASAP and maybe a free spectre pack or something.
Source: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/344/index/9917845/2#10648995
Previously I didn't care about Origin, it just seemed like Steam but slightly worse. However after this I can't endorse it's use to anyone.
Disgusting behaviour from EA, they truly are ruining the industry.