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Prove it. | |
You can go to offline mode if you're not connected. But you won't be able to start the game. It will say something like "the game isn't ready for offline mode". Maybe that's just for some games, I didn't try with all of them. | |
wow somebody sounds like a tech illiterate. | |
I don't see the problem with steam, you get good deals, you cant lose your games, and its easy to use. Also, OP's points are mostly invalid as you can set it so it doesn't start on boot up, it is easy to uninstall and if having it running in the background affects your performance so much, you probably shouldn't be using your computer to play games. The only issue I can see is the offline mode which blatantly doesn't work. | |
I have more hours logged on Arx Fatalis then I do Skyrim. A little more OT: Steam doesn't use much in terms of computer resources whilst running, and it's a handy tool for buying games on the cheap that might not even be available anywhere else. | |
My only beef with steam is having to update before playing one player games. I know you can turn off updating, but I am still screwed if it started doing it already. Sucks for Canadians who pay for GB usage. I will never played Shogun again because it needs like a 15 GB patch, which would cost me 30 bucks. | |
I've had an almost flawless experience with Steam and I've seen this bug. It sits there trying to connect on startup when there is no internet connection, and it was only resolved when I enabled it (was at work and didn't want to use their internet). Thankfully, that was only once it did that. I've been places that have been without any internet at all, and was able to get into Offline mode with no issues. OT: | |
What incorrect data? Or do you mean the crap you were spewing about origin? We understand that you love steam but that it no reason to spread bullshit about other systems or call people liars when they point out perfectly valid complaints about steam. Also stop being such a god dam hypocrite. | |
Steam Offline mode is so broken that even Valve makes fun of it. I recall several patches within a several day span where one was the next day the day after that And it is still broken for many. admittedly they have fixed the problem for most people. | |
Exactly. Didn't expect someone to post the truth here, so I'll quote you. For truth. | |
First, it runs in the background, just like ALOT of other stuff (microsoft word, every instant messager, antivirus, torrent software; check your task bar, if steam is the only thing down there ill eat my hat), and has good reason to (considering it is a instant messager and downloading software) | |
That origin steam are equatable, at this point in time they really aren't. Its badly managed and broken not to mention the lack of an inbuilt server browser or a store that people would actually buy from leaving it with no actual purpose. People accept the bad from steam because of the good stuff we get back, origin does not offer that. Im not saying steams perfect, im saying its leagues ahead of origin in quality because it actually gives the customers a reason to use it. Now i don't even need you to reply to know your going to ignore all that and blindly call me a fanboy, because thats easier than reading and having a rational view point. | |
You are right origin has some problems but steam also shares many of those same problems. Im calling you a blind hypocritical fanboy because you are raging on origin for them but denying they exist with steam. Im not sure why you are making up problems with origin since it already has enough on its own though. | |
He doesn't have to. Classic monopolistic behaviour should be enough to qualify as bad in and of itself. People just fail to think critically or long term. | |
I forgive steam for fucking up (and it does) because it's a program I wanted. I liked the idea of being able to manage and buy games online so I installed it. I invited it on to my computer, so when it makes a mess, it's kind of my fault. Origin on the other hand busted down my door, grabbed Mass Effect 3 and started making demands. I don't negotiate with terrorists. | |
where did i deny steam has problems? nowhere. Again reading is kind of vital to an online discussion. The problems I pointed out are real and aren't problems for steam, iv also never had a problem installing games on steam, twice iv had problems with origins terrible updating servers. Not to mention the times when the thing just clonks out. Im not hating it for no reason, it has proven to me that it is useless, and as such i reserve to spend my money on one which actually works for what i need it to. (things like cloud saves, server browsers, updating that works, a store with a huge array of games). But you will not validate any of these claims because they don't align with your bias of "hur dur all drm is bad so their basically the same" by your dumb ass logic gfwl would be in the running, but its not for the very same reason it's broken as all hell. While ea are trying to fix origin, the state its currently in is not good enough for the consumer. | |
Yep because allowing games to be put on other DD platforms should the devs want to is monopolistic? | |
Then don't use it. The solution could not be more simple. | |
Non sequitur. Has absolutely nothing to do with what I said and is nonsense to boot. | |
STEAM IS INVASIVE! How? In what way does it invade your computer? Malware is invasive - I do believe you have to install Steam, and then you don't have to run it until you want to play a game. What's invasive about it when it's turned on, even? It runs silently, updates automatically if you want it to, without annoying pop-up windows. I just don't see it. STEAM IS BUGGY! It is? News to me. Never had a problem. Ever. Steam takes up less memory than Google Chrome, and everything it does is done as easily as I can imagine doing it. I'd make the comparisons to Origin, if this were Steam circa 2006. Maybe. I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT STEAM'S SALES FOR SOME REASON! WAAAAA! Yeah, 90% off Arkham Asylum was just a terrible deal... and 75% off Borderlands GOTY. And 80% off Oblivion. And 75% off Mount and Blade. How DARE they let me buy such quality for so cheap? HOW VERY DARE THEY LET ME PURCHASE A £40 GAME FOR ONLY £5?! What the actual fuck, people? Are there genuinely folks out there so bloody spoiled that they can even find time to moan about STEAM? There'll be someone moaning about GoG soon. ("THEY ONLY SELL OLD GAMES! WAAAA") | |
Actually, the reason for that ARE those brick&mortar shitstores like GAME and GameStop. Even though they don't give a fuck about PC gamers, they refuse to carry big titles which they sometimes still sell if you can get a better or equal deal on Steam. GAME for one carried it that far that you can't buy ME1 and Space Marine on steam (don't know if they already fixed the latter). | |
I like my Steam. Always works, all my games are easily accessible, and fairly cheap. That, and it works. | |
I always preferred Impulse to Steam, but then impulse got bought out by gamestop..... so lesser of two evils and all that. Steam changed my password on my first account one day and refused to send a password recovery email. It was a couple years before I trusted them, errr tolerated them. Plus i think they had a hand in making it so the last few total wars can't be modded like older games. | |
...Troll? I think it might be a troll. Either way, Steam is one of the best services for any product ever. Direct downloads with massive, frequent sales, the workshop for mods, huge support for indie games, and Valve just generally being chill dudes. My account was even hacked a while ago and I had it back with just a couple emails. | |
Ok... If you don't like steam it is not hard to uninstall. In fact all you need to do is go to Control Panel < Add/Remove a Program < Select Steam and uninstall. There ya go. Steam is removed completely from your PC along with any installed games. How was that difficult? As for me. I have not experienced any displeasure from using the Software. I love it. I do not see any reason as to invest into any other form of DD software. ESPECIALLY Origin because well... EA is horrendous. Ah and what was already pointed out earlier, If I decided to get cheeky and started pissing off the administration in the Steam Forums and getting banned from it, this action will not block my access to my games. Unlike Origin.
This is my only comment on the cons. If they worked on Offline mode a little more I hardly see any problem with the Software. | |
I've got about 60 games on Steam, the vast majority bought for about £2-3 and yeah some of them I've barely played. Thats not Steams fault though, at least i supported the developers to some degree. Its pretty easy to turn it off and uninstall though. Though I admit Offline Mode is a bit rubbish | |
There are a cadre of problems common to all online authenticating systems (DRM, etc) that cannot be worked around or resolved so easily. But as with any service, the difference in practice comes down to the parent company's attitude towards their customers. Valve (Steam) has spent years at least attempting to garner favor with measurable benefits. I remember when Steam launched. It was absolute shit. I specifically avoided buying Counterstrike: Source and Half Life 2 just to avoid the inevitable requirement of Steam. I hated having to install it for Left4Dead later, and I still have my issues with it. Great deals on games sweetens the mood (and I do give props to them for distributing a LOT of Indie titles; giving them at least an equal shot in exposure compared to the industry monoliths), but I have a line, and no number of deals will make me cross it. To keep it brief, I'm tolerant of Steam for now. Origin...well, EA banned users from Origin just because their forum moderators took too many Stupid-Pills that day. I don't get the impression they care much once you've installed it and bought something. Time will tell, but if history shows me anything it's that EA is utterly incompetent when it comes to dealing directly with their customers. (Spore activations, anyone?) Note: However, I still pay attention to Origin because EA is a major force in the gaming market, and what they do could impact how OTHER companies behave in the future. Like it or not, they set trends. How they compete against Steam may have profound effects on the rest of gaming. | |
Not sure if troll or more computer illiterate than my grandmother... | |
Go to Preferences. Don't mention it. | |
The best ones. I do, however, end up playing them all for at least some length of time. And if you don't want to buy the awesome games that they have on sale, then don't. | |
Preferring DRM-free gaming is fine. Anyone'd be a liar if they said they didn't. However, comparing Steam to Origin is... >.< The difference between the two is that Steam brings us services that make our lives easier. Take the recent addition of the Workshop, which will help a lot of people experience the modding scene, and maybe get them introduced to the places where all the best mods are ('cus they aren't on Workshop). Whenever Steam boots, it silently hums into action. Whenever Origin boots, I can't move my mouse for six seconds?!? Steam isn't VALVe's gift to gamers, but it's most certainly the least invasive form of DRM we currently have, and it buys its presence with neat tricks and helpful features. Four days ago, I formatted and restarted my gaming rig from stratch. You know what I had to do to reinstall 85% of my games? Leave it by itself for a day, while Steam did the work for me. What I would like to see myself, is for Steam to stay, and for Origin to stop being a shitty piece of broken software, and for other competitors to start showing up on the scene as well. 'cus we need alternatives to Steam, not because Steam is bad, but because almost all of my games on Steam was bought off the now-dead Direct2Drive, 'cus they were 40% cheaper on release day. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, this:
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You can stop it from booting up with your computer. Settings->Interface->Run Steam when my computer starts (uncheck). You could also use MSCONFIG. It doesn't hide in the background, it's icon is clearly visible if you click the up arrow beside the clock (Win 7). It's non intrusive if that's what you mean but that's a good thing. Why is it a bitch to uninstall, don't you just go to Control Panel like any other program? | |
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Yep.
When I bought Mass Effect 3 on Origin, the service took my money then refused to let me download the game. It took me three calls to their customer service before things got rectified. To this day I still get errors in Mass Effect 3 whenever I try to log into the multiplayer, saying that the game's online components require a valid online pass - to which the game locks up for 30 seconds or so then connects me anyway.
I've had Origin itself bug out whenever trying to change user settings. Like if I want to change my account avatar, I'll open the menu to do that, then sit on an Origin loading screen for an eternity. I thought maybe it was just a bad connection on my end causing this, but a quick Google search shows that it's a pretty common occurrence that doesn't have anything to do with people's connections.
Attempting to invite friends into games through Origin sometimes outright just doesn't work. Either the invites literally never send, or they send and then aren't acceptable to the person on the other end.
I've had the Origin in-game overlay glitch out so that the game will gray out like normal, but none of the menus will actually appear until both the game and Origin are restarted.
A few of the people on my Origin friends list, if they get disconnected mid-game, when they reconnect Origin will cease to function until both the game and Origin are restarted.
And on and on and on.
Maybe in a few years Origin will be up to current standards set by Steam, but right now, it's as bad as Steam was when it launched back in the day. Which is why until Origin meets the standard, I'll continue to take my business elsewhere whenever the game doesn't outright require Origin.