Mass Effect 3 is now under $30 is it really that bad of a game?

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These days, I feel like the $60 price tag is kind of arbitrary. Also, Free games seem to make more money then full price games, and you have things like Steam devaluing video games (In a good way. An early price drop could very well just be a marketing strategy, whether it is to appeal to a larger audience, get some goodwill after the ending fiasco, experimenting with price structures, or even an attempt to build a base to sell DLC to.

Gamers play games. They are the market that is most intuitively receptive to a game-like market filled with more consumer choices and strategies. As far as sales go, ME3 took a hit with the ending, but I doubt it is a big enough hit to merit a price drop to mitigate slow sales.

The_Blue_Rider:

RJ 17:

The_Blue_Rider:

Right i knew there was some sort of difference.
Okay then Mr Smarty Pants 1/5 PLOT, 1/5 Characters, 1/5 Gameplay and 2/5 Garrus Vakarian.

I know the story is a huge draw for people playing Mass Effect, but I felt that because theres such a focus on characters and interacting with your squad it deserved its own statistic

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Baby seal has been satisfied.

:P But yeah, like I said originally I was just being a dick. I've got a degree in English and damnit I feel like I have to use it for something! God knows it sure as hell isn't applicable to my current job... >.>

What you dont know is that I too am a dick.
I AM NOW INITIATING DICK TO DICK COMBAT

..wait that doesnt sound right

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Baby seal disapproves of sword fighting with dicks.

It actually kind of is.

I mean, it's a good game, but it does have definite problems that extend beyond the ending. It's good, but that's all it is, good not great. For Bioware, this is very disappointing.

I'd say 30 bucks is about right, maybe even a bit too low, it's certainly not worth the full 60 (Or 80 if you bought the collectors edition), but if you get it for 30, it's a good deal.

If you liked the first two and managed to finish them then $30 IMO is a great deal. If you loved them, full price was a great deal. If you don't give a shit about the first two, why are you asking this question?

I'm not sure exactly how we are meant to know how much value you put in your different forms of entertainment...

I'm not all that familiar with how price dropping works. But my guess is that Mass Effect 3 is big enough of a game to have most people prioritize buying it if they really want it, so it's reasonable to assume that everyone who was willing to pay release day price for it has already done so, therefore the price drops.

Also, I don't think this is a standout case. Prices on Amazon tend to drop pretty quickly. I remember checking out SSX a week ago (which I intended to buy, but Mass Effect came in the way) and to my delight it was already below $30.

GonzoGamer:

dimensional:
Its been cheap for quite a while I also see that Street Fighter X tekken is now over 50% off in some stores as well basically I dont think people liked what they did so now they are dropping the price to get people to try and buy it.

Is it that people didn't like it or are (like me) waiting for Super SF vs Tekken?...
Then ultimate SSF vs Tekken...
Then Ultimate Premium SSF vs Tekken.

Sorry I worded that badly I was just mentioning sf x tekken whereas when I was saying people saw stuff they didnt like I was referring to ME3 and specifically its ending.

As for whether people are waiting for the updated version of sf x tekken or not im not sure I generally think its just a complete sense of apathy for the product TBH people dont think they are getting a good deal and online is apparently terrible.

I am actually doubtful there will be an updated version I mean it wouldnt surprise me if their was but I dont think there is enough support behind the product to justify it. They should just hurry up and release the new darkstalkers game instead.

The_Blue_Rider:
I think it could be a reaction to how many people are complaining about the ending. I mean imagine you have never played the series before, do you really want to invest so much time into a trilogy that, according to everyone has a really bad ending that barely reflects your choices? Half the appeal of Mass Effect is the story.

Okay well maybe like 1/3 story, 1/3 characters and 1/3 gameplay.

...Okay more like 1/5 story, 1/5 characters, 1/5 gameplay, and 2/5 Garrus Vakarian

Haa! Couldn't agree more.

Anyways... the game is not bad, the ending is. Unfortuantly the bad press has completely overshadowed the great reviews the game got and as such it must be struggling. Shame really.

But yeah its been 25 here (UK) for a while now.

Rawne1980:
I'll tell you what made me giggle....

EA refused to give GAME ME3 due to game being in debt and a bit of a risk, so GAME had no stock of ME3.

GAME in my town now has more stock of ME3 than it knows what to do with due to quite a few people trading it in.

And it's under 20.

I ROFL'd when I saw it in mine.

It's a pretty mediocre game when you judge it as the whole product. At times it's incredible (Tuchanka, Rannoch, deaths of some characters) but Bioware dropped things that made Mass Effect so likeable in order to cater to a wider audience. They basically forgot about the fans who made that game so popular in order to attract Call of Duty players.

Auto-dialogue, catering to multiplayer crowd, terrible side quests, worse visuals than in ME2, less characters, railroading you into situations that shouldn't exist because of the decisions you made in previous games (rachni queen), decisions from previous games that don't matter at all (Collector's base), day one DLC for $10, awkward animations, narrow FOV where your character takes the entire left side of the screen, no holster function, bad controls where one button does 3 things, no clear villain, Kai Lang, Kinect that took so much time and money out of the development, godawful ending that throws away everything Mass Effect was until the last 10 minutes of the game.

Yeah, they dropped the ball on Mass Effect 3. They had it coming. Too bad Mass Effect 3 had to be the game they ruined in order for people to finally start paying attention.

Zhukov:
Well yeah... an early price drop usually indicates falling sales. If a game continues to sell like hot cakes at the full price then why would the publisher drop the price?

As for whether or not it's "really that bad of a game", that's a purely subjective matter.

My opinion of the game as a whole breaks down something like this:
- 90% - Most fun I've ever had with a video game.
- 9% - Meh.
- 1% - Oh God, guys, what are you doing to ME3? What the fuck are you doing!?

Thats my thought. I thought the game was great, doesnt mean I agree for the shit ending it has. But thats was then, this is now, and at $30 I think Im gonna buy it.

Tar Palantir:
1) Don't play it unless you've played the first 2 games.

That's why I haven't played it yet. And I can't get them because of the fiasco with GAME closing etc.
Which is also why I can't get ME3.
Myeeeh!

Plus, there was the 'HOLY FUCK DAY 1 DLC BOYCOTT ME3' thing that happened.
And there was the ending shitstorm.

Hiding place.

Ilikemilkshake:
I'm happy with my full priced purchase of the collectors edition, so would i pick it up at half price? hell yeah.

You'd think the ending was carcinogenic or something by the way people have been going on about it.

Was the ending terrible? Yes.
Did that make the hours of fun i had playing it before the end invalid? No.

I feel like my copy of Mass Effect 3 is defective. It didn't kick my dog, curse my future children, give me herpes or burn all my books.

These have to be standard features, otherwise all the rage and shouting would be very disproportionate to what actually happened if everyone got the same copy I did. And we all know internet people are known for their measured, thought out reactions to things.

Maybe if they spent less time trying to implement the Kinect into the game they could of spent more time fleshing out the end.
The Kinect is a waste of technology and man power, glorified Eye-toy, oh and im not a fan boy Eye-toy sucked major balls to.

*foam, froth* Yes, yes it is, its a terrible game all around!!! Badly written, badly acted, badly produced, badly presented and badly bad. I'm suing everyone!! *foam, foam!!*

Coming back to snense and reality, no its not. Most retailers go by how popular a title remains, not by its content. An example of this would be Black Ops, a short, bad, laggy, buggy game, but still mind bogglingly sells for 40 even though its been out for 2 years or so.

I think it's just really poorly marketed. I didn't buy it because I knew from the last game that there was going to be an absolute crap ton of DLC to be had, so I'd be better off waiting. I bought Mass Effect 2 from KMart a couple years ago during Black Friday sales for $20, got a $20 xbox live marketplace card for $10, and then all of the DLC went on sale for half price. A couple of months after that, they released it on PS3 with most of the DLC already included on disc, but I essentially got an early game of the year edition for $30.

The other factor is that I've seen nothing in the commercials, reviews, or trailers that suggested to me that this game is going to have some element in it that I haven't seen twice before. The basic gameplay is pretty much the same for however many dozens of hours it takes to beat the game. It never gets significantly more difficult, nor does it require me to even think. Just endless cover-based shooting, pick the asshole option in a dialog sequence, scrounge around for some resources, repeat endlessly.

To be honest, I wasn't exactly crazy about Mass Effect 1 and the only reason I liked 2 was because of the story, new characters, and loyalty missions, which 3 apparently does not have. Multiplayer sounds bland and repetitive and the "combat readiness" meter just sounds so uninspired. I'm sure it's probably a pretty good game (and I really could not give less of a shit about the ending), I just have not seen anything that makes me want to run out and buy it immediately.

Max Payne 3 and Retro City Rampage on the other hand will be a challenge to not purchase immediately, even though I know I should wait for discounts/updates/DLC. (Man, do publishers discourage us from buying their games.)

Darknacht:
I just noticed that Amazon is selling Mass Effect 3 for $29.99, its only been out a month and a half, is it really so bad that no one is buying it?
I know most people did not like the ending but most people I have talked to said it was good for the rest of the game, doesn't this seem a little soon for this big of a price drop?

Not really. With the level of hatred that the game is getting from it's fans (ie the people who are most likely to buy such products again, and as a result are the primary money source), the only way they're going to make any profit from this point on is by bringing down the price and getting non-fans to buy it.

Hey guys, it's a fucking one day sale. Stop acting like you made a huge difference in sales, the game still sold very very well.

Darknacht:
I just noticed that Amazon is selling Mass Effect 3 for $29.99, its only been out a month and a half, is it really so bad that no one is buying it?
I know most people did not like the ending but most people I have talked to said it was good for the rest of the game, doesn't this seem a little soon for this big of a price drop?

You're complaining about a price drop? Hell I might buy it now that it's cheap rather than carry on waiting to finish ME1/2 again.

Dangit, I knew I should have waited. Could've saved $30 and bought me a nice lunch for a couple of days. Ah, well.

And no, Mass Effect 3 is not that bad.

*Flashback*

I actually told myself I wouldn't support EA after Mass Effect 2 'cause I was so pissed I couldn't back up my saves on my Xbox 360. I had the ability to back up my saves in Mass Effect. You would think that option would be available in Mass Effect 2, right? So I emailed them asking why on earth we couldn't back up their saves, and the rep told me that "it didn't occur to them that backing up saves would be necessary." I was disgusted. From that point, I severed all ties to EA. At least, I thought I did...

*End flashback*

I caved in and bought it 'cause I heard how angry everyone was with the game, and I wanted to experience the hype myself.

And no, I'm not angry with the ending. Sad, maybe. Sad that the journey has come to a close, which has more to do with the journey coming to close than the actual ending itself.

Price is hardly indicative of quality. It probably just means a whole bunch of the millions who bought the game returned it.

One who is SmarterThanYou has spoken.

Frostbite3789:

Ilikemilkshake:
I'm happy with my full priced purchase of the collectors edition, so would i pick it up at half price? hell yeah.

You'd think the ending was carcinogenic or something by the way people have been going on about it.

Was the ending terrible? Yes.
Did that make the hours of fun i had playing it before the end invalid? No.

I feel like my copy of Mass Effect 3 is defective. It didn't kick my dog, curse my future children, give me herpes or burn all my books.

These have to be standard features, otherwise all the rage and shouting would be very disproportionate to what actually happened if everyone got the same copy I did. And we all know internet people are known for their measured, thought out reactions to things.

Haha.. Because the game came out 3 days later in the UK than in the US I had already heard awful awful things about the ending. So when i actually got to it i was pleasantly surprised to see it was just very poorly done rather than it being some lovecraftian horror that would rape me of my sanity like people had been making out.

So for anyone completing the game just now i imagine most will just think "huh? was that it?"

ZeroMachine:

Devoneaux:
Let me put it this way.

If you were having a wonderful, WONDERFUL blowjob from a prostitute and right before you finished, she bit down onto you and wouldn't let go for a full minute, would you still be willing to recommend her to your friends?

BECAUSE THAT SITUATION IS TOTALLY COMPARABLE TO A SUB PAR ENDING OF A VIDEO GAME, RIGHT GAIS?!?

Give me a break. It's no where near that bad, and the rest of the game is so damn awesome that telling someone NOT to try it is doing that person a disservice.

Oh it's completely comparable. In either situation, without a proper ending, you might as well not have bothered. The ending is the most crucial part to a story/blowjob, if it isn't satisfying, or at the very least, functional, then it leaves you feeling frustrated and quite pissed that you wasted time on something with a shitty payoff.

Ilikemilkshake:

Frostbite3789:

Ilikemilkshake:
I'm happy with my full priced purchase of the collectors edition, so would i pick it up at half price? hell yeah.

You'd think the ending was carcinogenic or something by the way people have been going on about it.

Was the ending terrible? Yes.
Did that make the hours of fun i had playing it before the end invalid? No.

I feel like my copy of Mass Effect 3 is defective. It didn't kick my dog, curse my future children, give me herpes or burn all my books.

These have to be standard features, otherwise all the rage and shouting would be very disproportionate to what actually happened if everyone got the same copy I did. And we all know internet people are known for their measured, thought out reactions to things.

Haha.. Because the game came out 3 days later in the UK than in the US I had already heard awful awful things about the ending. So when i actually got to it i was pleasantly surprised to see it was just very poorly done rather than it being some lovecraftian horror that would rape me of my sanity like people had been making out.

So for anyone completing the game just now i imagine most will just think "huh? was that it?"

The hype lowered your expectations and softened the blow. You're welcome.

This is part of Amazon's gold box deal, and ME3 is the deal of the day. That's why it's so low in price.

Devoneaux:

Ilikemilkshake:

Frostbite3789:

I feel like my copy of Mass Effect 3 is defective. It didn't kick my dog, curse my future children, give me herpes or burn all my books.

These have to be standard features, otherwise all the rage and shouting would be very disproportionate to what actually happened if everyone got the same copy I did. And we all know internet people are known for their measured, thought out reactions to things.

Haha.. Because the game came out 3 days later in the UK than in the US I had already heard awful awful things about the ending. So when i actually got to it i was pleasantly surprised to see it was just very poorly done rather than it being some lovecraftian horror that would rape me of my sanity like people had been making out.

So for anyone completing the game just now i imagine most will just think "huh? was that it?"

The hype lowered your expectations and softened the blow. You're welcome.

I would give thanks to the hype machine for lowering my expectations but it's a bit of a double edged sword given that the hype machine heightened everyone elses expectations in the first place which is what made mine get lowered.. or something.. ahhh that's complicated.

RJ 17:

The_Blue_Rider:
I think it could be a reaction to how many people are complaining about the ending. I mean imagine you have never played the series before, do you really want to invest so much time into a trilogy that, according to everyone has a really bad ending that barely reflects your choices? Half the appeal of Mass Effect is the story.

Okay well maybe like 1/3 story, 1/3 characters and 1/3 gameplay.

...Okay more like 1/5 story, 1/5 characters, 1/5 gameplay, and 2/5 Garrus Vakarian

:P Just to be a dick, I'd point out that categories such as "characters", and "Garrus Vakarian" can indeed all be summed up within the category of "story". :P

OT: It is surprising to see that ME 3 is already down to half price...I personally thought it was the best game of the trilogy because of what you actually do in the game. Yes, like the majority of others, I was quite offended to find that the ending was essentially a giant spray-paint can that asked you what color you wanted to paint the galaxy (despite us being assured by Casey Hudson that the ending WASN'T going to be some cliche "Pick A, B, or C" type ending), but to think that a month after the game is out it's already down to half price just because of the last 10 minutes? That is pretty extreme. If you're a fan of the series, then this should have been your opinion of the game:

Zhukov:
My opinion of the game as a whole breaks down something like this:
- 90% - Most fun I've ever had with a video game.
- 9% - Meh.
- 1% - Oh God, guys, what are you doing to ME3? What the fuck are you doing!?

Personally I still love the game. The ending failed to ruin the entire game (and the entire series, for that matter) for me. Hell I just finished up my 2nd official playthrough with my full Renegade character, and I'm eagerly looking forward to starting up my 3rd playthrough as a class that actually has powers (first two playthroughs were as an infiltrator and a soldier). But really that's just my thoughts on the matter...clearly other people are more offended by the ending than I am. :P

Exactly! And with the amazing Indoctrination theory (Which I still believe, regardless. Hell, it makes more sense than anything else!) I am eagerly playing through all the games again with that theory in mind.

Capitano Segnaposto:
Exactly! And with the amazing Indoctrination theory (Which I still believe, regardless. Hell, it makes more sense than anything else!) I am eagerly playing through all the games again with that theory in mind.

:P I do agree that the Indoctrination Theory does wrap up a lot of holes left open by the Literal Interpretation, however there's still too many holes in the IT for me to accept it as valid. Though I do think the parallels between Saren and The Illusive Man are too solid to ignore, the only real difference between them is that Saren wanted to appease the Reapers while TIM wanted to control them. However, both became absolutely obsessed with Indoctrination towards the end of their lives, both thought their actions were for the greater good, and both can be talked into blowing their own heads off. :P

Devoneaux:

ZeroMachine:

Devoneaux:
Let me put it this way.

If you were having a wonderful, WONDERFUL blowjob from a prostitute and right before you finished, she bit down onto you and wouldn't let go for a full minute, would you still be willing to recommend her to your friends?

BECAUSE THAT SITUATION IS TOTALLY COMPARABLE TO A SUB PAR ENDING OF A VIDEO GAME, RIGHT GAIS?!?

Give me a break. It's no where near that bad, and the rest of the game is so damn awesome that telling someone NOT to try it is doing that person a disservice.

Oh it's completely comparable. In either situation, without a proper ending, you might as well not have bothered. The ending is the most crucial part to a story/blowjob, if it isn't satisfying, or at the very least, functional, then it leaves you feeling frustrated and quite pissed that you wasted time on something with a shitty payoff.

Well what about BioShock? That game had a horrible ending, yet the lead up to the ending was still amazing. Many people consider the game to be absolutely great (including those who bitched about the ending to ME3), yet the same can't be said about ME3? That is a load of bullshit. You know it. I know it, everyone knows it.

If 99% of an item is amazing (be it book, CD, Candy, Game, Movie, whathaveyou) and the last 1% sucked, then does it mean it should be banished, insulted, and shamed? NO. It does not.

RJ 17:

Capitano Segnaposto:
Exactly! And with the amazing Indoctrination theory (Which I still believe, regardless. Hell, it makes more sense than anything else!) I am eagerly playing through all the games again with that theory in mind.

:P I do agree that the Indoctrination Theory does wrap up a lot of holes left open by the Literal Interpretation, however there's still too many holes in the IT for me to accept it as valid. Though I do think the parallels between Saren and The Illusive Man are too solid to ignore, the only real difference between them is that Saren wanted to appease the Reapers while TIM wanted to control them. However, both became absolutely obsessed with Indoctrination towards the end of their lives, both thought their actions were for the greater good, and both can be talked into blowing their own heads off. :P

Quick question, what are the plot-holes to the indoctrination theory anyhow? I keep hearing about them but no one goes into specifics >.<

You definitely will need to play the first two before you play the third if you haven't already.

In any case ME3 is probably worth 30 bucks. I only played it twice as the ending ruined its replayability for me, but then I rarely play many games more than twice anyway.

Game is awesome, especially if you played the first two and know the background on the Geth/Quarians and also the Krogan Genophage stuff. People are just bitching about the end, think they need to get over it. Yes its was disappointing, but i just sold my game and moved on to something else.

Zhukov:
Well yeah... an early price drop usually indicates falling sales. If a game continues to sell like hot cakes at the full price then why would the publisher drop the price?

As for whether or not it's "really that bad of a game", that's a purely subjective matter.

My opinion of the game as a whole breaks down something like this:
- 90% - Most fun I've ever had with a video game.
- 9% - Meh.
- 1% - Oh God, guys, what are you doing to ME3? What the fuck are you doing!?

Pretty much this. Most of the game was good but the ending pretty much stabs the story line repeatedly with a rusty spork. The gameplay is still good no matter what but ME is such a story driven series that gameplay cannot salvage it completely.

If you liked the first 2 then definitely get it.
If you didn't like or didn't play the first 2 don't bother.
Also can we stop calling it the best or worst game ever made, because it really isn't either.

TrilbyWill:

Tar Palantir:
1) Don't play it unless you've played the first 2 games.

That's why I haven't played it yet. And I can't get them because of the fiasco with GAME closing etc.
Which is also why I can't get ME3.
Myeeeh!

Plus, there was the 'HOLY FUCK DAY 1 DLC BOYCOTT ME3' thing that happened.
And there was the ending shitstorm.

Hiding place.

Gotcha, you bastard.

Even if the game isn't really that bad, most of the media attention it has received has centered around the ending.
Demand has probably lowered a good bit even though the rest of the game might be good.

It's probably the best game that came out this year, it just had a less then stellar ending.

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