Which side did you chose?
NCR
34.1% (121)
34.1% (121)
Ceaser's Legion
4.8% (17)
4.8% (17)
Mr. House
19.7% (70)
19.7% (70)
Independant
40.8% (145)
40.8% (145)
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Poll: New Vegas: which faction did you chose?

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I played with House first because that was where all the money was. I'm pretty sure he gives the most money for missions and for the snowglobes. He also gives you your own apartment, so I couldn't say no to this guy.

Then I played with Yes Man after I went on a murder spree and killed all of the faction leaders.

The only reason I touched Ceaser's Legion was for the achievements and I hated myself the entire time. I hated it so much that I deleted the file completely from my hard drive. Nothing in New Vegas brought me more pleasure than bringing Boone with me to blow the head off of Ceaser and taking a dump on his throne.

Independent, though if it wasn't for the Brotherhood, I'd've gone with House. He had the best long-term plan laid out for the Mojave.

The Legion is just horrible. A pack of vicious dogs who would tear themselves apart the moment Caesar was no longer holding the leash.

The NCR, for all their talk of freedom and peace are just another bunch of imperialistic assholes hiding behind a false banner of peace. They move in, claiming land that's already settled, and if you don't want them there? Too bad, it's join or die.

Most people when given the choice pick either siding with themselves or siding with the most reasonable sounding faction. Nobody wants to join up with puppy kicking incorporated or play best boy to a mummy :P

I've sided with all four factions, but after a huge amount of humming and aahing and slapping myself in the face, I went with the NCR in my first playthrough. They were dicks too and I didn't like them either, but out of everybody you could align with, I thought that choosing NCR would probably result in the most happy/decent endings for everyone. (I looked up the endings on the Fallout wiki later, and my assumption was more or less right.) That, and I figured that the NCR would be able to pull their shit together more once they had the Legion off their back.

I Can't Believe It's Not Andrew Ryan Mr. House was my first choice originally, but even though I liked him (seriously, was the snowglobe obsession anything other than adorable?), the more I advanced through his questline the more I was put off the idea of him running Vegas. He seemed like too much of a control freak, overly-nostalgic, and I disliked how he planned on running the entire place more like a business (e.g. ignoring Freeside because where's the profit in helping drunkards and chem addicts?). But the exact moment he turned me off was when he started all that babble about space colonisation. What?? All right, I can kind of get behind the autocracy and the capitalism boner, but space colonisation? You mean this planet's fucked, so let's go fuck up another one? Okay then, Newt Gingrich, but you can get someone else to help you out with that.

The only group that was always out of the question for me was Caesar's Legion. Caesar was one of my favourite characters, but I thought the overall faction was slightly disappointing. I know that each choice is meant to be morally grey, but the Legion's disadvantages so outweighed the advantages -- especially in comparison to the other factions -- that it bordered on ridiculous. They're definitely the token "bad guys" in the game, at least to some extent. Also, aside from Caesar, it felt like not much effort had been made with the other characters. I always forget his name, but Whatshisface who has enough swag to walk up to you in Nipton wearing a dog hat and sunglasses springs to mind: it felt like the references to his disobeying orders in the past and being capable of independent/creative thought would go somewhere, but it never did.

Jesus, that was more text than I'd intended. Whoops.

No Gods! No Masters!

House and NCR were both ok too though. House is a fucking boss and I really wish I hadn't had to have killed him.

Legion though... god damn. Legion was just stupid. I mean, seriously? What kind of philosophy do they stand on?

"DON'T USE STIMPACKS BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS BAD! INSTEAD, LET'S USE A ROBOT TO CURE CANCER!"
"LASER WEAPONS ARE EVIL BECAUSE THEY ARE HIGH TECH! USE A FORCE-FIELD GENERATING GLOVE INSTEAD!"
"POWDER GANGERS ARE BAD BECAUSE THEY LOOT AND PILLAGE! LET'S LOOT AND PILLAGE A TOWN JUST FOR ASSOCIATING WITH THEM!"
"WE BELIEVE IN STRONG MORAL CONVICTIONS! LET'S CONVINCE THE WHITE GLOVE SOCIETY TO ABANDON THEIR MORAL CONVICTIONS AND BECOME FUCKING CANNIBALS!"

I almost couldn't play as a Legion character because they were too fucking stupid. The achievement for siding with them almost went un-achieved. Serious roleplayer that I am, I just made a character that I decided had been dropped on it's head as a child and that was why he liked the Legion.

New California Republic. They're flawed, but seemed to be the most balanced faction. House reminded me of too many self-satisfied Republican politicians to ever feel comfortable siding with him, and the Legion are just evil.

Indeed, I think it's one of the strengths of the game that for all their over-the-top crucifying of entire towns, the Legion in NV feel like a legitimately evil option, not the "Herp-derp punchin' journalists" renegade evil of other RPGs. The fact that not only myself, but seemingly everyone else in this thread was uncomfortable with the thought of siding with them shows (to me) how well Obsidian managed to create a genuinely horrifying threat for the player to face.

Also, words cannot describe how happy I was when, on being given an invitation to see Caesar, I discovered you could rock up to Cottonwood Cove with Boone and go to town on every Legionary you find, even going so far as to kill Caesar. When that fucker dropped dead from all the grenades I'd shot into him, I honestly felt like the baddest-motherfucker since Samuel L Jackson walked into a diner with John Travolta.

SirBryghtside:
NCR, even though it broke my heart to have to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel. That was an absolutely brilliant game.

Thought about going independent for a bit, and am still not sure if I made the right decision. The NCR killed a lot of people taking over the Mojave - but I don't think that makes them inherently evil. It's the people who resisted, and I spent the entire end slide just sitting dazed, and wondering why they couldn't just accept it. Guess I didn't really understand the wastes. Probably a good thing I didn't go independent, then.

You know you can convince the Brotherhood to side with the NCR right?
And that was my choice and I was quite happy with my NCR character's ending. Things looked pretty bright.

Whoatemysupper:

SirBryghtside:
NCR, even though it broke my heart to have to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel. That was an absolutely brilliant game.

Thought about going independent for a bit, and am still not sure if I made the right decision. The NCR killed a lot of people taking over the Mojave - but I don't think that makes them inherently evil. It's the people who resisted, and I spent the entire end slide just sitting dazed, and wondering why they couldn't just accept it. Guess I didn't really understand the wastes. Probably a good thing I didn't go independent, then.

You know you can convince the Brotherhood to side with the NCR right?
And that was my choice and I was quite happy with my NCR character's ending. Things looked pretty bright.

Yup. But as usual, I screwed up.

I swear I never make the right decisions in games. Kicked McNamara out like an idiot.

I chose NCR myself, being in charge irks me, and you can't bribe robots. The NCR was just great for my character, since he wasn't exactly the best of guys, and a corrupt government that I can take advantage of beats all the other choices. That, and being in charge doesn't quite work. I know I'd just kill off a bunch of leaders and laugh at the chaos.

Went for Caesar's Legion because they're cool and make prags mad. The sexist thing is a bit much, but whatever man, they kill the crap outa everything with machetes and raiders don't touch them. Pretty bombass if you ask me. Ya so if I want to go for practical reasons, House is smug and a lousy ruler, Independent isn't that great, cuz well how the hell is a wastelander with no experience running shit supposed to lead a nation, NCR can't enforce anything and is on the decline, but the Legion is like the new, rising power.

But I played all of them and they're all pretty cool I guess. Just like Legion better, except for the dumbass gender politics thing, which sounded dumb even from it's conception(according to Van Buren documents there was some crap about leading a different tribe based on gender, I don't even...), even if it does have practical reasons in New Vegas, you don't throw that shit into video games like this.

I pretty much went completely independent by the end, killed off the crazy old man (or whatever he really is), ran off the NCR and killed off much of the Legion. The BoS I believe survived unscathed. The ending ended up being pretty harsh so I could have played my hand a lot better, still had fun though!

Independent.

It had a super rad... everything.

NCR the first time, as i applaud democracy (even if a bit...swayed/corrupt) over tyranny..although house does have a point...still don't like his over controlling freakishness to it all though.

still, in the VERY long run, house MAY have been a better choice...

Mr. House first time, my second time I had forgotten once I had gotten new games and when I came back to play it it kept freezing when I went to lower levels, and my 3rd time some error occured when after I killed Mr. House and did well exactly what Caesar told me to do and came back to the Fort all Caeser's legion turned hostile the first time, the second time I came in wearing Legion attire and everyone didn't turn hostile until I got into Caesar's tent, since the game saved there that profile was stuck in the same error and it couldn't proceed. It was annoying since I was trying to get the perk which you can only get if you eat The King, Caesar, the NCR President and Mr.House. Of course I already ate Mr. House and I was getting ready for the NCR President by doing Legion quests, but this happened.

Overall of course Mr. House, the NCR is too poorly run and the Legion aren't that attractive. Mr. House at least has a plan, plus I like efficient dictatorships, the NCR was just a poorly run Democracy and the Legion were just barbarians.

At first, I worked for Mr. House. When I went to retrieve the Platinum Chip from Benny after he fled to Caesar's camp, I told Caesar that I'd work for him, but I instead upgraded the Securitrons when he sent me into the bunker instead of destroying them. Naturally, I let him believe that I had done as he asked and lifted the Platinum Chip from the gate guard's pocket on my way out. Mr. House was pleased with my success and sent me out to gather allies for the upcoming battle, I did as he asked, and got the Boomers, Great Kahns, and the rest to pledge their loyalty. Additionally, I did some odd jobs for the NCR as well, telling them that the alliances I was building were for them. Then Mr. House asked me to blow up the Brotherhood of Steel, whom I was in the process of gaining the favor of. I took that as the signal that now was the time to put the next phase of my plan into motion, and used the Platinum Chip to disable Mr. House's security, disconnect him from the mainframe, and leave him to die slowly over the course of a year. I then played through the rest of the game pretending to be the NCR's best friend, up until I turned my robot army on them after winning the battle of the Hoover Dam.

It's good to be the king.

I think Ceasar's Legion is by far the hardest to start with, because you don't actually have anyone to trade with safely for along time... Though, being a total badass murderer has its appeal...

for those with the pc version hunt down a house/brotherhood alliance mod on the nexus mod site. it will allow you to create an alliance between them if you become a knight.

for me i led every side on for as long as possible playing them all off against each other before destroying them all in an orgy of violence and slaughter

erttheking:
When it comes to factions, Besthesda games really loves to aim for the grey and gray morality, all sides have a point.

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i went with no one and i wished i had the chance to do so without killing mr. house.

the ncr are douchebags that do little to nothing and have serious problems to keep their territory because of its size.

the legion are douchebags for the same reasons. plus rape and slavery.

house while having the closest resemblance with tony stark didnt have too much power to convince me to join him.

so i just wanted to move along after i gutted benny but i had to take over.

The NCR just have the problems inherent in all republics. They are the price of stability.

The Legion on the other hand is pants-on-head retarded.

Being from California I was almost dead set on NCR but when I met Mr.House i just loved the old mad scientist thing he had going on and wanted to learn more so ended up siding with him. But man it was hard to see the NCR slowly hate me more and more. But next playthrough will be different and with big guns too! (went more melee first time)

bullman422:
To be honest forming my own Empire was my favorite choice (YES MAN). NCR is more than likely most people's choice but while they profess good intentions, overall they where ultra-militaristic assholes and where the quickest to turn on you no matter how much good you did for them as soon as anyone even realized that you where doing good for other factions. Most people probably hated Caesar's legion as they had a strict code and treated women as second class citizens, but they were very loyal and even had a tolerance for alternative lifestyles (don't burn any brains cell figuring out that one). As for Mr. House, he was a very controlling, but he a bit more tolerable than the other two factions as he only seemed more about capital gain than controlling people's lives. I guess...

Considering Mr. House only gave you the option of killing the Brotherhood of Steel, I choose not to support the bastard, choosing the NCR the first time round and independent the second. I played it more than that, but most files I never completely finished the game, because of obvious reasons.

To me, House represents Objectivism (Libertarian + Capitalism), NCR represents socialism (Authoritarian left or right), Caesar's Legion represents totalitarianism and independent represents nothing.

I went with House, though I'm not sure why, it seemed like every fraction was wrong.
House was brutally enforcing capitalist society, NCR was brutally enforcing socialism and the Legion was brutally enforcing slavery. I guess I just found House less objectionable.

Independent. House is fine too, NCR not so much (Long Dick Johnson and all that) and don't get me started on the Legion.

I chose NCR but little do they know that I am actually the one in charge. If I didn't move a muscle they would die in a second. So New Vegas has a government BUT I CONTROL IT. Bwahahaha.

Seriously don't mess with the Invincible Courier who has a reputation of wiping out fortresses, nations and saving the day.

I almost always go Wild Card. It's just so tempting to give all 3 major factions the finger as you take over New Vegas.

However, on this playthrough, I'm siding with the NCR because that's the only way to get the best ending for most of the games factions.

I could see why some would choose House, but I can't possibly comprehend the rational with going Legion. Obsidian made them to Stupid Evil imo.

Between the NCR's corruption and Ceasar's Legion's hard aversion to technology, I chose Mr. House. He seemed to have a solid plan, and while it was harsh, it seemed to be the best way to get humanity back on its feet. The whole 'If you want to see the fruits of democracy, look out the windows' thing practically signed my name for me.

That being said, I had fun working for the Legion with one of my other characters. Blowing up the monorail, sneaking around an NCR base and freeing a Centurion, and sniping out everyone in Forlorn Hope, the Legion was just fun. Of course, getting the Lucky Shades and a shot at Meat of Champions was worth it.

Overall, the idea is the same: NCR troopers are just fun to shoot.

I flipped all of them off and said screw it to the main quest. Although I was partial to the NCR for the most part and was Vilified with Ceasar's Legion for a good while until I did some small quest in one of their camps so now they don't care if I've killed a few hundred of their guys anymore. I think I was at the point where I could chose which side I wanted to be on but I decided to blow it off until I'd done everything else first and then I got the Dead Money DLC, started that and never finished it so I couldn't do the main quest right now if I wanted too.(without starting a new character of course, but I'm not going to do that unless I'm starting a hardcore run)

I actually wanted to go with the Legion the first time through. When I got the invitation to go see Caesar, I'll admit that I was intrigued. I came away intrigued with the possibilities, but also a little bit disappointed. I'd expected a larger, grander figure than Caesar turned out to be. I was expecting a soft-spoken meglomaniacal sociopath who could run an empire from one coast to the other (much like the Caesar of real life). When I got there, I found him to be a self-absorbed narcissistic asshole who sounded too much like a New York gangster.

And I loved it. Because this wasn't Caesar. This was some power-hungry warlord ho'd risen up by the rights of fire and blood, using his own brutal cunning.

Unfortunately, while I found that to be a brilliant piece of incidental storytelling, it put to any thoughts I'd had about siding with the bastards. I did House's job for him and when I came back to the tent I had Lucky hidden...somewhere, I'm not sure where you'd hide a .44 magnum. And so I did render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

OT: I chose House in the end.

It's either house or independent for My Couriers. NCR is just like the old world and look how well that turned out. The Legion are well.....slavers, bandits, sexists, and a whole manner of unpleasant things. Sure they're organized better than the NCR but even the Roman empire fell after it got too large. House may be a controlling, manipulative, vengeful bastard, but at least he's an honest controlling, manipulative, vengeful bastard. You know where you stand with him, plus he gives you the life of luxury once you help him, what's not to love.

My first playthrough? Well, I was GOING to go with House, but I had an issue with one of his quests.

See, Veronica was my favorite companion, and I had already gone through the Brotherhood quest line, Power Armor training and all. But then House told me to kill them. I actually struggled with the choice for awhile, do I give up what is possibly the Mojave's best chance at a stable future, or ruin my relationship with my favorite companion, as well as her entire family?

Eventually, I decided that I had to go independent. And honestly? I'm happy with my choice. I feel like everything really worked out for the best that way.

NCR. I played the game lawful evil and that faction gave me the best opportunities to spite people in the name of the LAW!

Also, I'm not not stupid and siding with the Legion is the dumbest move to make if you want the most companions. You lose Boone, who has a game breaking glitch of hitting 100 percent of the time. You also lose Arcade and Veronica if you side with the Legion Also, you can't use the Brotherhood to help you out, or have the glorious site of watching Enclave and Brotherhood soldiers fighting side by side because both factions owe you favors.

Joined the legion.

I'm not gonna say why.

But I can be a sick fuck sometimes, and being at such a high position, the benefits fit my needs perfectly... (And the fact I'm so confident in my ability, and the fact that I saved Caesar's life, I find it highly unlikely, even if for some failure, to be set to death. I'm just too valuable an asset considering my individual ability".

besides that. NCR would just evolve into an oligarchy/aristocracy like the united states. (Which I view as the worst kind of government, at least with a dictatorship, the concept and leader is in your face, not hiding and lying)

And mr house. Ain't got no beef with him really, but I'm not a drinker or a smoker. And both are encouraged in his vision. They're both poisons that should be eradicated from human culture. (Among all drugs) Of which the legion just so happened to have the same idea :).

Mick Golden Blood:
Joined the legion.

I'm not gonna say why.

But I can be a sick fuck sometimes, and being at such a high position, the benefits fit my needs perfectly... (And the fact I'm so confident in my ability, and the fact that I saved Caesar's life, I find it highly unlikely, even if for some failure, to be set to death. I'm just too valuable an asset considering my individual ability".

besides that. NCR would just evolve into an oligarchy/aristocracy like the united states. (Which I view as the worst kind of government, at least with a dictatorship, the concept and leader is in your face, not hiding and lying)

And mr house. Ain't got no beef with him really, but I'm not a drinker or a smoker. And both are encouraged in his vision. They're both poisons that should be eradicated from human culture. (Among all drugs) Of which the legion just so happened to have the same idea :).

The Fort may be on top of a hill, but being in Caesar's legion means you will always be on your knees. Contrast this with the independent option, where you can pretty much own all of the everything with a massive securitron army that obeys your every command.

The Legion's "ideals" are a joke, for reasons I've explained above.

EDIT: And you totally just said that weren't going to explain it right before explaining it.

Hell, maybe the Legion *does* suit you.

Unsilenced:

Mick Golden Blood:
Joined the legion.

I'm not gonna say why.

But I can be a sick fuck sometimes, and being at such a high position, the benefits fit my needs perfectly... (And the fact I'm so confident in my ability, and the fact that I saved Caesar's life, I find it highly unlikely, even if for some failure, to be set to death. I'm just too valuable an asset considering my individual ability".

besides that. NCR would just evolve into an oligarchy/aristocracy like the united states. (Which I view as the worst kind of government, at least with a dictatorship, the concept and leader is in your face, not hiding and lying)

And mr house. Ain't got no beef with him really, but I'm not a drinker or a smoker. And both are encouraged in his vision. They're both poisons that should be eradicated from human culture. (Among all drugs) Of which the legion just so happened to have the same idea :).

The Fort may be on top of a hill, but being in Caesar's legion means you will always be on your knees. Contrast this with the independent option, where you can pretty much own all of the everything with a massive securitron army that obeys your every command.

The Legion's "ideals" are a joke, for reasons I've explained above.

EDIT: And you totally just said that weren't going to explain it right before explaining it.

Hell, maybe the Legion *does* suit you.

Caesar was old.

I was young, and his right hand man.

I would've inherited his throne when he died.

And

Mr. house didn't have a robot factory to create more robo-army, so that was bound to end in lack such.

NCR is shit like I explained.

And I only said that the ideals of the legion, only the ridding of drugzz and alchohol/cigarretes from human culture truly appealed to me ideology-wise. Other wise I just wanted in because of, like I said, I can be a "sick person".

T8B95:
I actually wanted to go with the Legion the first time through. When I got the invitation to go see Caesar, I'll admit that I was intrigued. I came away intrigued with the possibilities, but also a little bit disappointed.

I very much agree with this, except that I was expecting Kurtz from Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now.

I mean come on. A high tech missionary goes out into the wilderness to bring the light of civilization to the savages and ends up forcing them to worship him and serve as his army. It's basically there, all they needed to imply was that Ceasar hadn't built his ideal society so much as he'd gone native and simply adapted to the brutality of the frontier.

What's even worse is that's kind of what post apocalyptic settings are about in some ways. Who would you be if all the laws and regulations which bound you suddenly went out the window? Could you remain a moral being if there was no society to make you one, or would you fall into the law of the jungle?

Instead, we just got a fascist fantasist who genuinely believes that his bunch of murdering, raping tribesmen with spears are the perfect society. Clearly the Followers of the Apocalypse don't have very stringent entry requirements.

OT: I went with House because I kind of liked him as a character, although like others I found it pretty hard to kill off the Brotherhood.

Then I remembered, the Brotherhood are basically enormous dicks who are only ever presented as the good guys because they generally happen to have similar goals to the protagonist. Their real, long-term goal is to gather all the technology which could actually help people and hide it away in bunkers so it can't be used by anyone but them.

That made it easier.

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