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I dislike it for one reason, and one reason only. No matter how good a game is, no matter how innovative, no matter how mind blowingly awesome it is. It will never outsell Call of Duty. I even enjoy the CoD titles, but I fucking hate that they're the bestselling titles of all time. | |
Modern Warfare 1 - 5-10 million across platforms The Sims - 15 million (PC Only) Tetris - 30 million (Gameboy) Super Mario Bros. - 40 million (NES) Wii Sports - 76 million (Wii) Those are just a few cherry picked examples. I'm not even touching mobile phone games like Angry Birds because they're really in their own category. There's lots of games like Starcraft, WoW, Halo, etc that are all competitive with Call of Duty, to say nothing of the MANY Wii titles and Nintendo properties and Pokemon games that handily outstrip it. So...sleep easy my friend. They're not even close to being the bestselling titles of all time. | |
Because it's not so fun hating a game that might be worse than COD in every single way for which you hate COD if nobody's heard of that game. There are a number of movements happening in gaming culture at this time, and some of them legitimately deserve criticism (plenty do not). COD happens to be in the middle of a number of such movements. That makes it an easy target. | |
Just to note I like the games a bit. I rent them to play the single player, the only problems I have are the multiplayer community being elitist as well as unwelcoming and that It is unbalanced and ridiculous in gameplay but then it isn't suppose to be realistic making that point invalid. | |
Those numbers for COD are out of date: Also, apart from the Sims all of the examples you gave were bundled with consoles. Black Ops is the highest selling game of all time in the US and Europe. | |
SIR. I PROTEST. Are you suggesting something I read on Wikipedia and took at face value was misleading in some way!? | |
Uh, YAY! I throw down the gauntlet at you sir! :P But yeah these are more up to date: http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=call+of+duty&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200 | |
Those are still showing COD in the 10-15 million range... Oh wait, I see. It's by platform. | |
Because it's popular. Mostly. It's unfair to generalize an entire vocal sect of the community's argument down to three words, but it fits what I've seen. I think they've pulled a million and one arguments out of thin air too to justify it not being good. Someone called it an "un-game" because it's linear. Like...Jesus. Seriously? That's some kind of valid argument. I'm neutral on the CoD games. Not a fan of FPS games, and I don't have the skill to take it online. But I think the hate is basically another way to take an unjust sense of superiority. But, that's unfair generalization. Just my own personal two-cents. | |
"Popular things are terrible because they're popular" is the consensus among pretty much everybody on the internet. | |
Because it isn't very good, has an obnoxious fanbase, and is (arguably unfairly) blamed for a lot of problems with modern shooters? | |
I don't hate the series, it's just boring to me. HOWEVER!!! When some CoD fan goes off on how JRPGs, Mario, Zelda etc is the gaming devil because they don't change, thats when I get mad. | |
1. if it wasn't good it wouldn't be popular, i can see why some people may personally dislike the game but to call it a bad game is probably wrong 2. as mentioned above, my experience with the call of duty community is that they are just normal people, the fans can be obnoxious but then again portal fans are obnoxious, heck 99.9% of fans are obnoxious regardless of what game/company they are a fan of and hating on a game over its fans seams like a shallow thing to do 3. i think the game has negatively influenced some other games, however i think that is the fault of the game developers/publishers in thinking "we must be more like cod" than the fault of the game itself existing 4. also even if the above problems are true, the same can be said about many other games which are hated on far less than call of duty. | |
Twilight is popular. Transformers is popular. Miller Light is popular. That doesn't make them good.
Well, having played Modern Warfare 2, Bad Company 2, Team Fortress 2, and Tribes: Ascend quite a bit (each), I've gotta say that CoD by far had the most people throwing racial/homophobic slurs at each other, people hacking and/or accusing others of hacking, 12-year-olds screaming into their mics, and so on. | |
1. i accept that even though i personally do not like twilight it does not make twilight a bad movie and it doesn't mean that people who do like it are wrong and i think that thinking that way is very narrow minded 2. i will accept that call of duty has a larger population of annoying children than allot of other games however they remain a vocal minority and although they may lessen your (and my) enjoyment of the game i do not see how it makes the game itself a bad thing or make it a target to be hated on just because it has a relatively poor community 3. you didnt answer point 3 or 4 from my last comment :( please would you share your opinion on them? | |
What you talking about? Twilight is awesome! ..... is what I would I say if today were opposite day | |
Twilight isn't a bad book because you don't like it or I don't like it - it's a bad book because (among other reasons) the prose is abysmal and because it's a character-driven story with weak characterization.
You're wondering why CoD gets so much hate, and the screaming children that play it are a non-trivial factor in that hate. | |
Because it's a black hole of money, development time, attention, money, advertisement, time, innovation, progress, money, time, etc. | |
1. i very much see were you are coming from, it is very clear that call of duty has allot wrong with it as a game, but it also does allot good and although from a sheer technical standpoint it will never be as good or as polished as many other games. But it also does allot right and trying to determine whether or not it is a technically good game is a very deep rabbit whole indeed, but i (along with many others) think that it is (mw3/mw2 are really terrible but Blops, cod 4 and cod 5 were very good bar afew issues like weapon balance and arguably the spawn system) 2. i can see this being a definite factor but i only see it as part of the problem, not the whole reason 3. still no answer to my points 3 and 4 made earlier? okay then but i'm still very interested to see what you think on them, particularly 4 "even if the above problems are true, the same can be said about many other games which are hated on far less than call of duty." | |
Call of duty is isn't innovative. Please don't pretend it is. People get call of duty because they know all their friends will also. It's also attractive to new gamers for two main reasons. One being the reason previously stated, and the other is because it is fucking easy to do at least decent. My brother played COD 4 and no others in the series. I once had him play black ops with me, and he couldn't tell a difference between it and COD 4. If someone can't tell a difference in two games made 5 years apart The reason I hate COD is not because of the game itself; it's mostly just the impact it has on the industry. COD is the game all publishers aspire to make. And they waste resources failing replicate a game that was already sold half a decade ago. | |
I've never actually played a CoD game. True story. I don't "hate" CoD though, but it sounds to me like the epitome of "Generic Modern Shooter." | |
Part of it is because Activision is too greedy. Another part of it is because the wild success of the series encourages other devs to make generic clones of CoD (which are safe sales) instead of taking a risk and trying something new. | |
I actually like CoD as well. Yea, I think they are over praised and sell more than they should. I thought the recent Black Ops winning some reward for best story in a game was the stupidest thing I've ever heard But, I can't judge or hate a game for being successful. I don't think they lack innovation, but I can see why people might think otherwise. Sure, the core gameplay mechanics haven't been changed, but there is always new maps, new guns, new features. I can comment about the 12 year olds from my experience. Usually the douche bags are a bit older judging from their voices. High school kids maybe? Anyways it is kind of like a throwback in time for me. I, like a lot of others got bullied/insulted all throughout high school. Now I'm 27 and I noticed after high school when I would only be around actual adults, most of them have grown up. But, when I go back to CoD I get to be called a faggot/no life again! These children wouldn't think to talk shit to me in person. They are safe and anonymous online. I actually find the prepubescent kids to be a rarity, and some of them are actually respectful and look up to their elders. I've had prepubescent kids compliment me, or ask questions on recommended class setups and such. A lot of the 12 year olds also get talked shit too just because their voice, and not what they are actually saying. | |
No you wouldn't because then you'd be dead. OT:
Pretty much this exactly. | |
popular games tend to become disliked because they become TOO popular. No one gives anything else a chance. I had and liked Modern Warfare 1, Black Ops, and Modern Warfare 3. Didn't really play the others. Black ops is great if you dont have good online. CoD without An online connection though comes off as kind of a dud. | |
1: Ehm, the Twilight movies are bad in every regard. It is less of "opinion" but more the fact that the story is bad written (aka we don't get any informations on characters, why they "like" each other, why the bad gus are bad), the cinematography varies extremly from movie to movie (in the range of bad to acceptable) and so forth. I could harp on this all day. The same goes for Transformers etc. On Topic: Shitty PC ports, money blown in games that look too bad for the amount of money blown in them, I dislike the mechanics (iron sights, regen health), I dislike the setting (realistic shooter? boring), I dislike the community for reasons named by Kahunaburger, I dislike the fact that most publishers get developer to copy CoD and ruin any interesting FPS game by adding those mechanics. Also, every MP FPS without dedicated servers is shit. Period. But well, like I wrote in most threads where this topic comes up: I dislike it for my selfish reasons. Harping on CoD series being bad is wasted time in my eyes, I'd rather harp on how shit Blops 2 looks ;D | |
I don't know why it gets so much hate. And why people go out of their way to backlash it so. I, myself, like it. It's a fun series that tries to impress you, and it will, if you let it. Unfortunately, people don't tend to let it do that too often and avoid playing it just because it's CoD. It doesn't deserve the hate it gets, to be honest. It's entertaining. Sure, there are some flaws but people tend to portray it as the manifestation of the devil. | |
No one hates Call of Duty. Lots of people dislike pointless threads. | |
Aaannnddd you lost every single ounce of credibility you could have had. You don't get to decide what is good or bad for other people. Sorry. Sit down, get off your pedestal, and stop trying to act like art isn't subjective. | |
This might seem an odd answer, but I know some of my friends were obsessed with it. It became the only thing they played, so the group of people that didn't play it grew frustrated that getting a different multiplayer game going got harder and harder. L4D2 realism versus is much more difficult when you have two randoms. Personally, I'm not a fan of shooters. I do well in them but I'm just not a fan. I don't hate them though. | |
I've just never been able to get into them. I mostly play single-player in games, and CoD games just aren't able to immerse me in their environments. Not saying they're bad. They're just not my thing. | |
Some words to describe why I'll never have any interest in this tired franchise: I could go on but I think the above is enough to describe just how much I loathe the franchise, the negative impact its success has had on the industry, the uninteresting "USA-Always-Wins" stories and bulls**t military jargon. The only thing that interests me less is probably the gears of war/Amry of Two type games. If they were the only games I had available to play, I'd find myself a new hobby. | |
I found this on another forum but it pretty much sets the example for every single CoD fan I've met. "man I fucking hate all these nintendo rehashes bro its the same fukken game over and over again yeah I know dude I saved this dumb bitch before, I sang on that, like, flute fucker before. haha yeah man and what about fukken pokemon these days, I mean, ANOTHER ONE? hahaha but hey dude what about that new call of duty oh bro that looks sick as shit man, gonna buy that one yeah" | |
Why does it receive so much hate? Shortly put; because it embodies that most negative aspects of the video game industry today. However, if you want some points, here it goes! These are, in no particular order, as follows: A) Very little changes between Call of Duty games, and that's awful, but worse is that since the series achieved mainstream success a rapidly growing number of games seek to copy it. B) Call of Duty gamers are some of the most foul and obnoxious of any player base so far, and the media attention it attracts makes other gamers appear to be awful people. C) Evil business practices. DLC, etc. D) Horrible PC ports.
These really aren't misconceptions. 1. Now for my own sanity, I'm going to assume you have confused the definition of innovation with another word. I'm even going to post it below, so you can revaluate your position. How great am I? in貧o夫a付ion Alright, I'll admit I'm worried you still don't understand. So I'll try and explain it to you; tiny changes in mechanics between games, does not equal introducing anything new to the medium. 2. I'll concede this, simply because age is not the key point made here. Most Call of Duty players are douchebags, regardless of age. It just so happens there are more younger douchebags who play Call of Duty than other series. Happy?
This made me laugh, so much. Thank you. | |
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this is something i do not understand, people dislike a whole host of games but none get as much negative attention thrown at it as call of duty, and i was wondering why? i personally like call of duty, but can see why some people might not like it and many people bring up valid points but is it really worth thinking about it so much and hazing it so much more than other games, and why you cant make a thread on it without 1/2 the comments being "i hate call of duty!" when if a thread pops about about a different unpopular game (for example fifa) most people just ignore it
i personally think its basically because the game is popular/successful and that through a combination of that and some evil business strategies it makes a huge amount of money but i was wondering what the escapist's think?
off topic i'd like to clear up some misconceptions that particularly annoy me.
1. call of duty isnt innovative: i can see why people think this, but it is untrue, as someone who has played call of duty competitively i can tell you that although it keeps the same base mechanics from each game but other than that is vastly different (like a good squeal should be) in terms of single player its often a case of SSDD but that is not what most people buy/play it for and judging black ops 2 on its single player is like judging mass effect 3 on its online.
2. most call of duty players are 12 year old douchebags: again from playing competitively most call of duty players are 16-18 and a regular bunch of people, the odd troll or 12 year old get in but pointing at them and using it as the stereotype for the cod community is like claiming that gamers in general are basement dwellers
/edit, i didnt properly explain how call of duty is innovative as i didn't expect so many comments on it due to the fact that most people know think the opposite, ive answered this in depth in some comments so look those up if your interested but the short version is that if you play casually and dont understand the game (like an unfortunately large number of people) you wont tell the difference, but if you play to the level were you understand things like the spawn system and how it affects the game and ho to exploit it then you will notice the difference and the more you play and better you are the more noticeable the differences will become