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Nothing at all. Why do you think I have no comment yet on Halo 4? As much as I am terrified that it may suck, I say nothing because I may be wrong about it. The same could be said about every other upcoming game. | |
you know i can't really think of anything other then this is stupid. you may not like it but it doesn't mean its ruined. | |
Finally, somewhere I can post this and it'll be relevant! | |
Different team, highly unlikely to stop them from making TES VI. | |
You beat me to it I was about to use your video! Bhaalspawn you sneaky devil. | |
In the beginning at least. I got sick of it pretty much halfway through, at which point I just tried to do my class story as much as possible. All the voice acting and cinematics in the world can't shake the feeling of repetitiveness caused by "Kill 10 robots, activate a console"-quests. And then when you're finally done with all that, there's nothing unique, interesting or fun left in the game. I stopped playing the day after I hit 50, many days before my first free month was up. From the first moment of playing, the only thing in my mind as I enjoyed the excellent story of the Imperial Agent was "Fuck this would've been GODLY if they made it a single player game instead". Screw that shit. I want GW2. Keep EVE online, Lotro and a few others. Those are fine. Let people pick their favorite. Fuck the franchise-rapers. Depending on payment model and other factors, I might check out TES. But it's gonna take a freaking miracle to make me think it's worth it, if Indeed it spells the end of the regular TES-series, as was the case with Kotor, Warcraft, etc. | |
Pretty much everyone I've talked to BEFORE THIS WAS EVEN A RUMOUR thought it would be a great idea. | |
Why? The single player games are still going to be released. If the MMO sucks and dies, the franchise will move on. | |
Hello, my name is Fargoth[1] and I am an immersoholic. It's been a whole month since I was immersed. I slipped, I was weak and I slipped. I had been clean for almost three months before that day. I thought I could control it. I thought I was cured. But the truth is that you're never cured - it's a constant struggle to not give in. I learned that the hard way. A month ago I thought I would just launch Morrowind for five minutes. I didn't even want to play - earlier that day, at work, I had gotten into a friendly argument with a colleague about what the name of one of the NPCs in Balmora was. We ended up making a bet. So when I came home, I fixed dinner, as always, turned the TV on, checked my email and without even thinking I launched Morrowind. I was keeping it there, on my desktop, laughing at it every day, thinking I was strong enough. I wasn't. I didn't even consider looking for the name online, I just thought I'd quickly run over to Balmora, look it up, and phone my friend to bring the money tomorrow. I didn't even notice where the next six hours went. At one moment I was heading to the silt strider and next thing I know I...my character was sneaking behind a bandit ready to slit his throat because all bandits are scum, see bandits took his family...I'm sorry. So there I was staring at the screen where my character was going to murder somebody. I dimly remember him killing other people. Other bandits. Laughing. Feeling happy. I yanked my hands off the keyboard with disgust. What had I become? I quickly shut down the PC - I just yanked the power cord. I couldn't bear to look at the screen again. Then I looked through the room. The TV was still on the same channel and a romantic comedy was running. I hate those. I cannot stand to watch them. My dinner was already cold and untouched just a couple of paces of where I had been standing until a few moments ago. The feeling of disgust overwhelmed me - I just curled into a ball and wept. What had I done? Immersion is a bitch. Immersion took my family and friends away from me. [1] name changed to protect the identity of the innocent | |
A game i know nothing about is going to suck because i know nothing about it. Is pretty much all im taking from this thread. | |
OK. I'm going to go completely rational on this for a few minutes. It is highly unlikely that TES will go the way of WarCraft. The people making it are a COMPLETELY different dev team to Bethesda Game Studios. I still have irrational paranoia about it, but that's just because WarCraft was a big part of my childhood before WoW. I think my problem with it - and I do definitely have a problem with it - is that I have never been an MMO gamer, but I've been an Elder Scrolls fan for longer than I can remember. It's a choice between the series I love and the genre I hate, and my gut instinct tells me that the answer will be no. I love the world, I love the lore, I love the tone. But right now, I can't bring myself to even consider buying it. I think this is what having an existential crisis feels like. | |
Nice informed judgement you got there, need to get me one of those. Unless you were over exaggerating and mocking the stereotype moronic forum users who create these kind of posts, hmm. *Strokes beard* | |
I could see it working as an MMO, but I would prefer more of the core Elder Scrolls games to it. However, it's being developed by a separate dev, so I'm just going to consider it a spinoff and judge once we have some hard facts and gameplay footage. | |
Even if it's the worst game ever made, how does it ruin the franchise? Christ, you people are mind-blowing. You don't even know a damn thing about the game. | |
Warcraft One was a single player game (Bnet wasn't around) and yet it made the most popular MMO ever. | |
I have to qualify here that I haven't played Skyrim yet, nor do I have extensive experience with MMO's. I have, however, read the articles about TES MMO, which means I have EXACTLY the same amount of information as all the people who are angry about this. When it comes right down to it, the publishers will do whatever we allow them to get away with, and our money tells them where we want the industry to go. With all the money that gets sunk into MMOs, compared to the amount put into single player experiences, they will try to force the online world into any game. Having said all that, based on the previous TES series, I think that it is actually quite suited to the style. Take away the "chosen one" aspect and it makes sense that multiple people would be attempting to save the kingdom/world/their own asses. The only way to ensure that TES single-player games continue and MMOs die out is to ensure that it is more profitable for them to create the series games rather than the perpetual world. As with all problems in the gaming industry (really in the entertainment industry in general) is to let them know, with our wallets, what we really want. If the current trends that we all hate so much prove to be profitable they will continue to do it. | |
The best part of TES is modding. Can't mod an MMO. | |
I'm done explaining 1st grade math to people for the day. Please read people. | |
Hello and welcome to the internet! But in all honesty I agree I think we should at least wait for some actual gameplay to be shown until we be so harsh toward it. I actually really enjoy the old republic (don't worry I have my flame-retardent suit on) so this might not end up completely shit. | |
It's just beyond too early to be calling "betrayal" or "ruination of the franchise" with this move, though I will admit I'm against it. My reasons for that, however, are akin to just being very concerned right now. The prospect of a Elder Scrolls MMO is not a new concept to be discussed, and each time it's brought up, I get another wrinkle in my brow. Skyrim was probably one of the series' most successful games, but it's not even a year old. Going MMO is a massive risk and undertaking that requires a staggering amount of time, money, effort, and manpower to complete and thus is a decision that cannot ever be made so lightly. The Elder Scrolls series is very popular, but I honestly don't think that's enough to compete in the MMO market. I mean, the Old Republic was in production for years with shocking and beautiful CGI trailers released at every E3 event that were made specifically to gradually hype it up until its anticipated release. And then there's the beta they made months before the actual release. Everything Bioware did was to steadily grow a fanbase that could guarantee a decent MMO-sized number of players from day one. Compare that to just announcing "Yeah! Elder Scrolls MMO guys! ... Expect it!" It completely falls flat! Guys, I won't say the series is "ruined"... but I'm worried. | |
Because its Bethesda. The only thing they ever do correctly is making random things happen, for the worse or the better. Well that and hype, oh god the hype. It won't hold anyones attention, more then likely, because they can't have the community make content for free anymore, thus they'll have to and probably make the new content more glitchy then any mod. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Same thing I said earlier, Bethesda is only decent at making a single player action game, I don't give a fuck, the Elder Scrolls Series is not a RPG because its missing any sense of immersion to be one. If they actually try and make a MMO they'll have to get rid of modding, thus their MMO loses life span off the bat. Bugs will drive people off. Most likely Subscription to rake in cash. And finally, the stale combat and PVP will cause people to have to walk away. It won't beat WoW at the fantasy train because more then likely their going to be riding the coat-tales of ToR. | |
From just this past September. Not that I'm really complaining. It's just funny, is all. The Old Republic MMO sucked, since it eliminated any chance of a true follow-up to Knights of the Old Republic II (both the Revan novel and what I hear of The Old Republic are incongruous with the story of Knights of the Old Republic II. So if I have to pick one as "the real thing", I'm going with the story of Kreia and The Exile). But I find the lore of The Elder Scrolls too dull to really fuss over this. | |
good thing Bethesda isn't making the game also RPGs dont require immersion. | |
I know right, a game that hasn't been released yet is fucking awful in every respect and has runed the franchise despite not being made by Bethesda, this is the end of the ES franchise as we know it! Seriously...wait for details before raising the "RU1N3D!!11" flag. | |
Okay, I can look at the new DMC, see the name of the developers and say it's probably going to ruin to francise. But one look at a ES MMO that's made (mostly, I'm assuming) by devs that worked on the earlier games and have spent years on it, while planning on spending another one yet and you think it's forever ruined? Now if Bethesda announced that future Elder Scroll games would only be MMOs I might (might) agree with you. | |
I love these new Elder Scrolls MMO threads... Making judgments despite knowing nothing about the game and acting as if they're going to force you to buy it. (Lets not even mention the fact it's being made by a separate studio and has been in development for 5 years already.) | |
So much for balanced discussion. | |
True. I played Orcs and Humans back in the day and I could never have imagined it would turn into something like WoW. I just don't think that kind of lightning strikes twice. That said (I've thought this over a bit more since my original post) if this new MMO stays true to the sandbox design philosophy of the Elder Scrolls series it could be big. There's a real lack of high profile, big budget sandbox MMOs out there - a whole slice of the market that this game could grab without having to go toe to toe with WoW. But if it's just a standard fantasy themepark MMO with a TES paintjob it'll be no more than an also-ran, like all the rest. | |
someone leaked scans of the gameinformer mag info | |
I have been googling for at least 20 minutes, it's driving me crazy, do you happen to have them? | |
The only way to balance this discussion after the OPs intro, is if someone else raves about how awesome this game will be and how it will shit on every game ever made by anyone... that includes the most famous game of all, The Universe, by Gods Will studios. The person would also have to cream their pants and suffer a fatal heart attack from the euphoria. Then this discussion would be closer to balance... in that the bullshit and wild speculation would be exactly equal. | |
Apparently -Three factions -the Imperials are "badguys" work with the Tharn family and Manimmarco, Manimmaro is selling everyone out to Molag ball -120 hours to reach level cap -Werewolf plague -Your Character has had his soul taken by Molag ball, which is why you can come back to life if you "die" -They take some of Gw2 mechanics were your weapons determine some of your skills, there is also doddging, skill combos, and other GW2isy things. | |
Okay, can you people at least try? I mean, feel free to be ridiculous and irrational and make massive assumptions, but try to make a little bit of sense. | |
Here's how I see it. As a play by post writer, I see this as a new way for fans to get different immersion into the games, role playing games in the TES verse would be huge, the massive maps and detail and just pure scale and freedom would practically abduct you if you're a roleplay writer. I myself used to roleplay on WoW, and that doesn't have nearly the scale and depth of TES. So stop whining about no immersion, just immerse with others. I assume you made it k-8 without failing because you can write, so share. And we get to whack dragons and Daedra along the way with our friends and brothers and sisters? Hell. Yes. | |
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Compare to kotor 3 SWTOR and yes TOR is watered down. Compared to other mmo questing experiances, Swtor is by far the most engaging. Ive done rift, wow, aion and swtor. Swtor is by far the best presented and the companion system is something that I hope sticks in future mmo's.
I agree all mmo's are the same deal at the core.
Sequels drive the medium forwards. We get new mechanics added to the game series. Devs have to sit together and brainstorm ways to make sequels different from the original. Ways to improve the game fundamentally.
MMO's ruin this. All we get are expansions that build on the same old mechanics of years past.
MMO's are expensive to make, but the pay off is that its relatively cheap to add on to what you have, rather than create from scratch. WoW has been milking that baby for seven years now.