i was watching a friend play dark souls, and he was at the end, fighting gwyn, lord of cinders. he got the choice: snuff out the flame, opening a new dark age, freeing the undead from their torture. OR do you revitalize the embers of the dying flame,bringing the world into a new, young form of the world its currently in, but it keeps the undead alive, through torture.

There isn't one.
Both ending has you as a puppet to give more power to a manipulative higher being. If you kindle the fire you fall for Gwyndolin's trap to find a successor so the fires do not dwindle and his reign can continue, and if you leave it you fall into the Primordial Serpent's traps to give them power.
I don't describe it well so go check this out.

so in your personal opinion which did you prefer/ think was the good ending?

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so in your personal opinion which did you prefer/ think was the good ending?

Honestly? I dunno. Each one kind of sucks in terms of what happens to you and the other characters. Dark Lord is you being a massive douche and cursing the entire world, while Sacrifice is giving ultimate power to some messed up guys.

I suppose in terms of morality, Sacrifice would be "Good" because it's not being done for ridiculously selfish reasons.

It depends, and I don't think either of them is "good".

The sacrifice ending gets rid of the dark sign and the curse of the undead, fights back the monsters that are plaguing Lordran, and restores the world back to it's previous good state with the gods of Anor Londo in charge....except that most of the Gods are gone, the respite from the darkness and the Dark Sign is only temporary, and it consigns the current chosen undead to life eternal as a crazed hollow, his humanity consumed by the flames (until the next one comes and kills him).

The dark lord ending frees humans from the machinations of the gods and sets the world down a brand new path, for better or for worse. At least you now have a choice, instead of all this "Chosen Undead" nonsense.....except you are quite possibly still being manipulated, this time by the Primordial Serpents rather than the gods. Also, you didn't actually "solve" any problems. The Dark Sign still exists, monsters are still everywhere, and humanity is fleeting. So if you want a world populated by zombies in varying stages of crazy, this is for you!

They both have their ups and downs. I personally prefer the Dark Lord ending, if only because Gwyndolin and the other gods are huge knobs and I like putting that jerk Frampt in his place

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Really, I have no idea... All I know is that I don't want to have anything to do with a guy who keeps what I can only assume to be the heads of every single dragon that ever lived on a wall in his house.

What did the dragons ever do to you Gwyn?

I went Dark Lord. Well, I plan to go Dark Lord once I kill this fucking Gywn asshole but that's besides the point XD

Really I still have no idea wtf was going on in DS, basing a story entirely on implying things only works when you have a set of base facts to work from. The only facts I can pull from DS was that the Dragons died and the gods kinda fucked up and Undead appeared in Lordran but nowhere else i think...

Is it set in the same universe as Demon's Souls by any chance? Just curious is all

Even the Dragons all being dead is kinda questionable actually, what was that dragon on the bridge in Undead Burg doing there? And there's a Dragon Covenant in Ashe Lake if i'm not mistaken...

Hopefully the next Souls game will have ever so slightly more facts to work from. I'm only asking for an extra 2% more factual content. XD

Its not the same world as Demon's Souls, mostly because FROM doesn't own the rights to it.

The bridge Dragon isn't a dragon, he's a drake. Drakes are like smaller, weaker dragons. Like monkeys to humans. There is only 1 living Dragon remaining, the runt living in secret in Ash Lake. Not counting the various undead ones like Gaping Dragon.

The undead problem is due to the Dark Sign, a curse that has started to afflict humans. Supposedly, the bonfires kept it at bay, but now that they are fading it has come back. The Dark Souls world persecutes the undead pretty heavily, so most of them are rounded up and sent to the Undead Asylum. Others volunteer to take pilgrimages or adventures into Lordran to try and link the bonfires, or for their own reasons. People with the Dark sign can't die, they just come back to life. However, once their humanity is gone, they go Hollow, turning into mindless ghouls (like all the various dudes you see hanging around Undead Burg and such).

There used to be gods in Anor Londo, like Lord Gwyn, Gwynevere, and the rest. However, for one reason or another most of them have left, leaving only Gwyndolin and some other minor dudes like Ornstein. Gwyn sacrificed himself to link the bonfires the last time they began to fade, in order to maintain the status quo and keep the gods in power.

There is quite a bit there if you know how to look for it!