Which will you purchase/which do you prefer?
Diablo 3
46.7% (396)
46.7% (396)
Torchlight 2
52.9% (449)
52.9% (449)
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Poll: So... Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2?

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So, it's almost time for your reemergence Blizz fans and your king of point n' click...

and you Torchlighters are waiting for summer to come around to rub the $20 in their faces!...

and I'm on the fence.

But this is about you, Escapists!: Which game, Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2, are you going to get, which do you prefer if you aren't, and most importantly WHY! (so I can figure a decision for myself).

edit: I'VE MADE MY DECISION!

*ahem* drumroll please....

The answer!.... well I suppose I should list my pro's and con's for each game that I have determined from this thread that settled the most with me:

Diablo 3:
Pros:
-Insured AAA quality, Blizzard maybe many things but one thing for sure is that they don't have a history for low-yielding and uninticing games
-More classes, it's a small reason but at least it allows more variety (5 to TC2's 4)
-/flameshield ARTISTIC DESIGN! Yes people you heard it, I like the art design and feel of this game! From the day Diablo 3 was announced I never understood what the hell people meant when they said Diablo 3 was cartoony. Why?

I don't know about you but that last boss fight was pretty damn bloody.

-This one is both: Constant Online. I list this primarily as a pro, I thought a good while about this and this is what I decided. If you play a video game, think about where you got it from? For most PC gamers its steam right? And what do you need to run steam? Internet! (and yes I'm aware of offline mode, I'm just making a point) When you think about it, most of the time you spend gaming, wether you're aware of it or not, you're probably connected to the internet. The second point of this is that I will most likely be wanting to play this with friends anyway and the added benefits against hackers doesn't hurt either.

-Story. I have always enjoyed the stories of Blizzard games, from SC to WC3 and even into SC2, the storyline of Blizzard games could always stand on their own for me.

Cons:
-Again, the Constant Online. This means that if I happen to not be in a place with Wi-Fi... to bad too sad.

-LCD (lowest common denominator): For years I was a WoW player (BC launch up until last september) so I have had my well earned share of having to experience games being lowered to fit for the LCD, this can hurt hardcore fans in the long run but ultimately since I haven't played Diablo before, this is only a minor complaint from me.

-PRICE: 60$ is understandable, but still, its x3 the amount that TCII is

Torchlight 2:

Pros:

-Dat Indy: Being an indy game gives TL2 a sort of benefit of the doubt. More often than not, I usually enjoy the care that indy makers have for their games.

-Price: Again, $20.

-No DRM: I can play however I want. I can mod, co-op, single-player offline, enjoy the benefits!

-New IP: I love new IP's. They always present new bright opportunities for great games (Dragon Age: Origins, for example)

Cons:

-Artistic Design: For me, TL2 seems cartoony to me, sure it has its fair share of blood but the character designs are a little off for me.

-UI:I'm not going to sit here and say that TL2 has a bad interface, I'm just more familiar with Blizzard's common interfaces and control layouts.

-Less Reliability: While TL2 is cheaper, fresher, and free from AAA burden, these things that make it more desirable, also make it less reliable. Blizzard will always have the cash and time to back up their games. I don't know about Runic and aren't familiar with their works and future outlooks.

That's it!

So what's my decision...

*ahem*

(couldn't resist)

DIABLO 3!

Yes, Diablo 3. In the end it came down to the history that I've had with Blizzard, and the experience (negatively) I had with Torchlight 1.

I'm not exactly what you call a Blizzboy (I quit WoW just out of sheer spite against Blizzards rediculous treatment of WoW as a kid's toy to pump $$... but I digress) but I can't lie and say I haven't enjoyed their games.

That being said, Torchlight 2 looks great! And maybe sometime in the future (if it follows its predecesor's footsteps into consoles) I might pick it up.

THANK YOU so much my friends, I'm grateful for the help and I hope you have fun in whatever game you end up playing!

Torchlight 2. I can't support always-on DRM in single player games.

And before the thread is flooded with people asking where's the "both" option in the poll, this is obviously a topic for people who will only choose one of these two games.

captcha: road apples

I've been getting the weirdest captchas lately.

torchlight 2 before diablo 3. but personally im looking forward to grim dawn for my action rpg goodness

Not that it's my preferred genre or anything, but where's the option for Path of Exile ?

http://www.pathofexile.com/

Both.

because I am rich and white enough to do so.

Bawahahahahahahahaha

Adam Jensen:
Torchlight 2. I can't support always-on DRM in single player games.

And before the thread is flooded with people asking where's the "both" option in the poll, this is obviously a topic for people who will only choose one of these two games.

captcha: road apples

I've been getting the weirdest captchas lately.

Heh, same here. Pretty soon it will develop self-awareness... and then... oh no...

EDIT: 600th post!

This type of thread is pointless. We all know Diablo 3, despite how awesome the actual game looks is regarded as an abomination from Hell on this site.

If I had a gaming PC, I wouldn't hesitate to buy Diablo 3. I know it'd be a solid, nearly bug-free game that offers hundreds upon hundreds of hours of monster slaying and loot finding. What's not to love? Sure, the DRM is stupid, but I'd compromise knowing that at the very least I'll get my money's worth.

I have a bigger problem with paying for a game to find out it's a total waste of money than I do buying a game with some hassle draconian obsticles that don't really need to be there.

TL2 hands down. An engine that I know will run on both my PC and laptop. A graphical style that doesn't deviate from the series norm. Actually being able to play offline if I want to. Oh, and the great price tag with no concerns about RMT caused problems.

StriderShinryu:
TL2 hands down. An engine that I know will run on both my PC and laptop. A graphical style that doesn't deviate from the series norm. Actually being able to play offline if I want to. Oh, and the great price tag with no concerns about RMT caused problems.

D3's graphical style doesn't deviate from the "series norm" either.

Also... what's with the "Describe this brand with any words" captcha? I just put down "aa34ff023" and IT ACCEPTED IT! How does this bypass Spambots?

Why is there always this one or the other attitude, why not both? For me, possibly Diablo 3 since Torchlight 2 doesn't even have a release date yet.

darkstone:
Why is there always this one or the other attitude, why not both? For me, possibly Diablo 3 since Torchlight 2 doesn't even have a release date yet.

I think I heard July was the month of Torchlight II... :S

Under normal circumstances, I'd be one of those "Why not both? :B" people, but with money as tight as spandex one size too small, $20 for hundreds of hours of fun (now possible to have said fun with friends) just sounds better than $60 for hundreds of hours of fun with friends. Even if I do have to wait around a bit longer for it. :P

For what it's worth, the always-on DRM doesn't really affect my take on Diablo III at all. I am a little peeved that single player, offline play is impossible, but that's far from a dealbreaker.

I'd probably have to say Torchlight 2 over Diablo 3 but not by much.

darkstone:
why not both?

Maybe there's only so much click click clickin ppl can handle ?

Anthraxus:
Not that it's my preferred genre or anything, but where's the option for Path of Exile ?

http://www.pathofexile.com/

That's what I was wondering. Pretty sure it's the same type of game isn't it? I mean I saw a video and it looked like Diablo.

Torchlight 2

Why:

1. Offline single player
2. Mod friendly

Easy one for me, Diablo 3. Torchlight 1 was a terrible hack and slash and there's nothing to lead me to believe its sequel will be any better. Diablo 3 on the other hand has a backing of a great series and everything I've seen only makes me want it even more.

Scow2:

StriderShinryu:
TL2 hands down. An engine that I know will run on both my PC and laptop. A graphical style that doesn't deviate from the series norm. Actually being able to play offline if I want to. Oh, and the great price tag with no concerns about RMT caused problems.

D3's graphical style doesn't deviate from the "series norm" either.

Um, yeah it does. It's not really bad and still fits the universe... but it does deviate from the norm.

ravenshrike:

Scow2:

StriderShinryu:
TL2 hands down. An engine that I know will run on both my PC and laptop. A graphical style that doesn't deviate from the series norm. Actually being able to play offline if I want to. Oh, and the great price tag with no concerns about RMT caused problems.

D3's graphical style doesn't deviate from the "series norm" either.

Um, yeah it does. It's not really bad and still fits the universe... but it does deviate from the norm.

I've seen the complaints leveled against it.

People forget Diablo II had absurdly bright colors splashed all over the place.

Scow2:

ravenshrike:

Scow2:
D3's graphical style doesn't deviate from the "series norm" either.

Um, yeah it does. It's not really bad and still fits the universe... but it does deviate from the norm.

I've seen the complaints leveled against it.

People forget Diablo II had absurdly bright colors splashed all over the place.

The only bright things in DI/II were magic sources. And lava. Everything else was extremely grimdark.

One will be at least 50% off during a weekend/midweek Steam sale a few months after it comes out. The other will be $60 for at least a year.

Mmm... I'd love to play both! But I guess I will go for Diablo 3 at this given moment.
I will still be purchasing Torchlight 2 when I have my fill of Diablo 3 though.

ravenshrike:
The only bright things in DI/II were magic sources. And lava. Everything else was extremely grimdark.

A lot of Act II was reasonably bright, what with all the limestone and desertness. And a lot of the gear was pretty colorful, if not downright fabulous:

image

Dags90:

ravenshrike:
The only bright things in DI/II were magic sources. And lava. Everything else was extremely grimdark.

A lot of Act II was reasonably bright, what with all the limestone and desertness. And a lot of the gear was pretty colorful, if not downright fabulous:

image

At that point all of your gear is magical. And even the desert and limestone looks dull compared to the basic scenery in DIII. The rule of thumb in the first 2 Diablos was the more magical the spiffier something was. In the third, at least in the beta, the specifics of scenery and people stand out from the very start.

Note - I am in no way saying the art change is bad, in fact I like it better than the first 2, but it IS a rather major change.

I bought TL2 amazingly enough, only real reason that I did it was because TL1 came with it and it's cheap and it's turned out to be a pretty decent game. I have no doubt that D3 is going to be a hell of a lot more entertaining but I highly disagree with the annoying level of DRM they are using so I'm going with the almost non-existent version of DRM present in TL2.

I voted with my wallet...yay!

I didn't hear of Torchlight until very recently. I think it was on Extra Credits or something like that.

I've also never had much interest in playing Diablo. So sorry, I can't really say either, because neither of these things particularly interest me.

Why is there no both option? Your poll is flawed! I've preordered both already as they are both awesome.

Diablo 3 because I have no clue of what the other one is.

Diablo 3 for me, torchlight 1 was just a copy paste job of Diablo 1 except with the difficulty dialed down to 0, and from what I've seen of Torchlight 2 it appears to be a copy paste job of Diablo 2 so yeah, although I'll probably pick it up on steam when it goes cheap, like, really cheap...less than 5 dollars cheap.

I was on the fence for ages but in the end im going with Diablo 3, purely on the fact that most of my friends are going to play it. what can i say i bent to peer pressure haha.

Diablo 3. I enjoyed Torchlight, but found it rather easy (some of those alchemist skills were just ludicrously powerful), and a bit of a superficial experience overall. It was fun, but never sucked me in like Diablo 2 did over and over again.

Realistically, I will probably end up getting both, though. They are both games I'm quite likely to enjoy, they'll both run natively in OS X (a developer behaviour I want to support with my money), and they should both run very well on my computer... so, I might as well enjoy them both!

I will probably end up getting both eventually, but for now I'm getting Diablo 3.

Not only have I been waiting several years for Diablo 3 to release, but I also enjoyed the beta far more than I enjoyed Torchlight (which was good, just not near being as good as the Diablo series.)

I am still pissed about the always on DRM crap, but it never affected my decision to buy the game, and it doesn't really harm my own playing experience, as I am always online anyway.

Jaeke:
So, it's almost time for your reemergence Blizz fans and your king of point n' click...

and you Torchlighters are waiting for summer to come around to rub the $20 in their faces!...

and I'm on the fence.

But this is about you, Escapists!: Which game, Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2, are you going to get, which do you prefer if you aren't, and most importantly WHY! (so I can figure a decision for myself).

Torchlight. All the issues with D3 completely killed it for me. Torchlight took everything fun about D2 and brought it with it to the present. Good enough for me.

Torchlight 2 by default, but ignoring the contrivances and the general fuckery associated with Diablo 3, I think they're on equal footing.

I've already preloaded D3, and I've adapted to Starcraft 2's always-online policies. I don't like them, but I want a stable game with regular patches. As long as I can lock out my characters and play strictly alone and similarly ignore the item auction house entirely, I'll be happy.

DRM tends to frustrate me as much as anyone else, but so long as its occasional authentication checks don't deter from the experience, it'll be fine. The main drawback is, of course, that if Blizzard ever goes bust, they'll have to either patch the item generation engine into the users' personal copies of the game before unplugging anything; or just say "Eff you, thanks for the money, we hope you had fun."

Getting Diablo III for now and Torchlight 2 when it's on sale or something.

I just love the story of Diablo too much, and I liked Diablo II more than Torchlight. Torchlight gives you brainless hack and slash, but the story is just.. there, in Diablo you are swallowed and genuinely intrigued by the story.

Fr]anc[is:
One will be at least 50% off during a weekend/midweek Steam sale a few months after it comes out. The other will be $60 for at least a year.

Considering Torchlight 2 will be $20 on release day, with no DRM, mod friendly, a skill tree that wasn't created to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and no RMAH that blatantly encourages theft, I'd say one of them will be half off, and the other will be $20 for a while.

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