LilithSlave teaches you about the one true religion: Touhou

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I see lolis.

I don't do games with lolis.

I'm out!

....What in the actual fuck is going on in this thread?

I'm trying to make sense of all this but my brain keeps shutting itself down as a defense mechanism.

A bullet hell with little anime girls running around?Ladies and gentlemen!

Welcome to my worst nightmare!!!

I've played some of them. They didn't really keep me interested in playing. You dodge one bullet, you've dodged them all. The music is pretty good though.

Kahunaburger:

Elmoth:
Innovation, iteration. . . I just want to know if it has something to make it better than many 10 year old games, which it seems to look exactly like except with less enemies and more 'bullets' and with. . magical girls.

Well, chess hasn't changed significantly in the last few centuries. The various incarnations of Tetris haven't change significantly, either. When a genre has the simplicity of: "here are some things, dodge them," I don't really see how much the gameplay can be refined beyond giving the player interesting patterns of things to dodge.

We all stopped playing chess when we discovered 4X games. (I dunno why we don't call them 4E games, all the words start with E...)

The last time I played chess both my opponent and I ragequit because the game didn't take into account the exponential empire growth variables, and we couldn't strategically build improvements on the tiles to create a fiscally sound balance between our military spending and general populace's standard of living upkeep.

And the map was WAY too small. Seriously, no room for even a LITTLE fog of war. What is this, Civilization for Newborns? I thought we were playing a STRATEGY game!

Supertegwyn:

Vault101:
its all..."Anime" like

*shudder* don't like anime....

This. And I have to call absolute bullshit on the whole "most famous series of games out of Japan"

Its stated that it's the most famous INDIE series somewhere in that wall of text.

Strangely now that I know what it is, I'm no longer interested in finding a copy to play now.

I heard about and I know about it but I'm not interested. So there.

On that bombshell it's time to end, goodnight!

Personally I'm not interested in the games themselves. I got them but i don't play them that often. They're OK but i can usually find something better to play.

The music rocks though. I listen to it all the time. My favorite's septette for the dead princess.

TheGauntman:

Trillovinum:

Carsus Tyrell:
Christ on a bread bin you guys are delicate little snowflakes aren't you? "Waah you insulted us all!" "Waah stop talking about things I don't like" "Waah stop saying bad things about what I do like" "You're a troll!" "No you're a troll!" yadda yadda etc. I've seen less tears at a first time anal convention.

I've finally cracked the code, the Escapist forums (cause sweeping statements are kewl) is /v/ with a thesaurus and some kind of complex about "objectively" proving things wrong.

You've been to a first time anal convention!? I didn't know they had such a thing...

They exist, but they're a pain in the arse to find.

Oh my dear sir, I see what you did there.

also; Captcha: heavens to betsy ... hmmm. that depends on what betsy prefers.

Why did this thread crash and burn so badly? I don't get it.

Anyway, this thread interested me enough to get a demo. It's strange that it was pretty difficult to find, because I'm pretty sure the OP was correct in saying it's a very popular series. It's one of the few that were commonly mentioned before indie games had their surge in popularity, I don't know why I never really looked into it before now.

SirBryghtside:
Ah yes, Touhou. The Homestuck of the videogame world.

And guys: say what you want about it, it's not obscure.

In my neck of the woods (New England, United States of 'Merica) it sure is obscure. I could probably go around polling every single person in my entire state about whether they've heard of Touhou and I bet the overwhelming answers would be no. I'd never heard of it before Lilith's last thread about it, and I dated a girl who is absolutely obsessed with everything Japan-related for four years.

I wouldn't presume to say that it's obscure to the entire rest of the world just because I've never heard of it, but it's definitely not very popular around here at the very least.

Obligatory OT part: I believe I said this on the last Touhou related thread, though I might've ended up not posting that in the end, I can't remember. If I did post, it was probably fairly snide, and so for the sake of being less caustic this time around (after viciously attacking the last thread posted by the OP about first-person shooters) I'll simply say that I'm not a fan of bullet-hell games.

EDIT: Though I appreciate that the opening post of this thread didn't go out of its way to attack the general user-base of The Escapist.

OP, I despise bullet hell shooters, have no interest in your advertising and offensive comments about religion, and I hope this thread gets removed by the mods. Good day sir. Fall in a hole.

shrekfan246:

SirBryghtside:
Ah yes, Touhou. The Homestuck of the videogame world.

And guys: say what you want about it, it's not obscure.

In my neck of the woods (New England, United States of 'Merica) it sure is obscure. I could probably go around polling every single person in my entire state about whether they've heard of Touhou and I bet the overwhelming answers would be no. I'd never heard of it before Lilith's last thread about it, and I dated a girl who is absolutely obsessed with everything Japan-related for four years.

I wouldn't presume to say that it's obscure to the entire rest of the world just because I've never heard of it, but it's definitely not very popular around here at the very least.

Obligatory OT part: I believe I said this on the last Touhou related thread, though I might've ended up not posting that in the end, I can't remember. If I did post, it was probably fairly snide, and so for the sake of being less caustic this time around (after viciously attacking the last thread posted by the OP about first-person shooters) I'll simply say that I'm not a fan of bullet-hell games.

EDIT: Though I appreciate that the opening post of this thread didn't go out of its way to attack the general user-base of The Escapist.

Hm... I think I underestimated its obscurity. It just seemed like one of those things that you hear around, like Homestuck. Guess that's a side effect of having near 15,000 posts... screws with your perspective.

SirBryghtside:
Hm... I think I underestimated its obscurity. It just seemed like one of those things that you hear around, like Homestuck. Guess that's a side effect of having near 15,000 posts... screws with your perspective.

I'd honestly say that the chance of hearing about Touhou increases in direct proportion to the number of gaming websites you frequent and the amount of time you spend there, just like Homestuck. I'd heard about it because there are a couple of items in LoL that are named after Touhou characters, but since bullet-hell shooters are definitely not my thing I never looked into them.

SirBryghtside:
Hm... I think I underestimated its obscurity. It just seemed like one of those things that you hear around, like Homestuck. Guess that's a side effect of having near 15,000 posts... screws with your perspective.

Well, I'm probably overstating how many people would not know about it. The majority may have never heard of it, but that doesn't mean the minority is small.

Just in my personal experience, I'd never heard of the series directly until Lilith made the Minecraft thread.

EDIT: Also what Vuliev said.

Tried it, liked it, made me happy.
Sucked at it, stopped playing it, made me a bit sad.

Love the music though. Still listen to that frequently.

After watching a video or two it is definitely not my cup of tea.
I've never heard of Touhou ever since you brought it up in that minecraft thread and will now try to delete it from my memory. Have a nice day.

I've heard of the games but since i know I'd suck at them i passed on them. another man made religion great just what we need more of them.

Well, I don't really like bullet hell games or anime and the like. Yeah, I think that's a good enough reason for not having heard of Touhou.

LilithSlave:
The Touhou and Bayonetta comparison is nothing alike.

The fans may sexualize the characters in fanart and the like. I play Otome games and read enough Yaoi to give your grandpa a seizure, I'm well aware of how demographics and fanservice often work.

Touhou games do not sexualize the characters, though.

Not that I was trying to make a comparison, but anyway. What I'm saying is that the intent is there. Yes, the characters aren't innately sexualized, but they *become* sexualized once certain fans get ahold of them. Between that and the Bayonetta 38 I've had the dubious pleasure of finding, I don't see that much of a difference. With the Touhou cast having a fairly loli design, I'm not exactly surprised to see that happen.

So in a sense, you have to argue that yes, Touhou's female cast is sexualized. Or else why would ZUN put out so many girls and only one or two guys? There's a clear level of interest at play, here.

*shrugs* Feel free to disagree, that's just how I see things, and one of the reasons why I never really got the point of Touhou.

Well damn, That sure made me know more about Touhou.

Most of my knowledge of it is the whole "Bullet hell game with big cast of magical girls".

Though I did knew of the Tsurepettan song mostly due to it being in Umineko.

Might try it out a Touhou title sometime.

... A game that has an anime aesthetic that is not a JRPG... that's different.

I loathe bullet hell shooters so I am not interested.

Thread needs less bitching and more fanart. Seriously this is like the only Touhou thread I've ever seen that's gone 4 pages without any. I love Touhou, pretty sure it doesn't like me much cause I've only managed to beat two games on normal but I have fun losing :)

Ed130:

Supertegwyn:

Vault101:
its all..."Anime" like

*shudder* don't like anime....

This. And I have to call absolute bullshit on the whole "most famous series of games out of Japan"

Its stated that it's the most famous INDIE series somewhere in that wall of text.

Strangely now that I know what it is, I'm no longer interested in finding a copy to play now.

Yeah, I know, in fact I corrected myself like five posts down from that.

That claim is still pretty sketchy though.

IamLEAM1983:

LilithSlave:
The Touhou and Bayonetta comparison is nothing alike.

The fans may sexualize the characters in fanart and the like. I play Otome games and read enough Yaoi to give your grandpa a seizure, I'm well aware of how demographics and fanservice often work.

Touhou games do not sexualize the characters, though.

Not that I was trying to make a comparison, but anyway. What I'm saying is that the intent is there. Yes, the characters aren't innately sexualized, but they *become* sexualized once certain fans get ahold of them. Between that and the Bayonetta 38 I've had the dubious pleasure of finding, I don't see that much of a difference. With the Touhou cast having a fairly loli design, I'm not exactly surprised to see that happen.

So in a sense, you have to argue that yes, Touhou's female cast is sexualized. Or else why would ZUN put out so many girls and only one or two guys? There's a clear level of interest at play, here.

*shrugs* Feel free to disagree, that's just how I see things, and one of the reasons why I never really got the point of Touhou.

I'm in league to agree with this. Based on the extremely rabid and active fanbase and the sort of stuff that it puts out there is definitely an undercurrent of sexualization.I doubt it would be as huge a thing if the characters were mostly male.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
....What in the actual fuck is going on in this thread?

I'm trying to make sense of all this but my brain keeps shutting itself down as a defense mechanism.

This.

I mean, basically, Lilith made a big OP explaining her love of Touhou, and now there's poo everywhere. I think I missed a lot of important things.

It doesn't help that my knowledge of Touhou consists mostly of this.

him over there:

IamLEAM1983:

LilithSlave:
The Touhou and Bayonetta comparison is nothing alike.

The fans may sexualize the characters in fanart and the like. I play Otome games and read enough Yaoi to give your grandpa a seizure, I'm well aware of how demographics and fanservice often work.

Touhou games do not sexualize the characters, though.

Not that I was trying to make a comparison, but anyway. What I'm saying is that the intent is there. Yes, the characters aren't innately sexualized, but they *become* sexualized once certain fans get ahold of them. Between that and the Bayonetta 38 I've had the dubious pleasure of finding, I don't see that much of a difference. With the Touhou cast having a fairly loli design, I'm not exactly surprised to see that happen.

So in a sense, you have to argue that yes, Touhou's female cast is sexualized. Or else why would ZUN put out so many girls and only one or two guys? There's a clear level of interest at play, here.

*shrugs* Feel free to disagree, that's just how I see things, and one of the reasons why I never really got the point of Touhou.

I'm in league to agree with this. Based on the extremely rabid and active fanbase and the sort of stuff that it puts out there is definitely an undercurrent of sexualization.I doubt it would be as huge a thing if the characters were mostly male.

To be fair, there's an obscene (literally) amount of My Little Pony porn. I wouldn't say that it's because MLP is sexualized.

God Tohou is awful.
I mean it's everywhere, and it's just banal.
Also it seems the OP doesn't want to be here.
Might I suggest a Touhou board where you're love of this will be reciprocated?

lacktheknack:

him over there:

IamLEAM1983:

Not that I was trying to make a comparison, but anyway. What I'm saying is that the intent is there. Yes, the characters aren't innately sexualized, but they *become* sexualized once certain fans get ahold of them. Between that and the Bayonetta 38 I've had the dubious pleasure of finding, I don't see that much of a difference. With the Touhou cast having a fairly loli design, I'm not exactly surprised to see that happen.

So in a sense, you have to argue that yes, Touhou's female cast is sexualized. Or else why would ZUN put out so many girls and only one or two guys? There's a clear level of interest at play, here.

*shrugs* Feel free to disagree, that's just how I see things, and one of the reasons why I never really got the point of Touhou.

I'm in league to agree with this. Based on the extremely rabid and active fanbase and the sort of stuff that it puts out there is definitely an undercurrent of sexualization.I doubt it would be as huge a thing if the characters were mostly male.

To be fair, there's an obscene (literally) amount of My Little Pony porn. I wouldn't say that it's because MLP is sexualized.

That may be true but the fact that touhou heavily features "lolis" leads me to believe that it isn't totally the same thing. I mean most fandoms produce some amount of porn as a result of weirdos who admire or adore the characters a little too much. I think I might be being too hard on it though.

Posting Touhou on escapist? Yeah, GTFO!
Kidding but let's just make a one time thing okay....OKAY!

lacktheknack:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
....What in the actual fuck is going on in this thread?

I'm trying to make sense of all this but my brain keeps shutting itself down as a defense mechanism.

This.

I mean, basically, Lilith made a big OP explaining her love of Touhou, and now there's poo everywhere. I think I missed a lot of important things.

It doesn't help that my knowledge of Touhou consists mostly of this.

Oh sweet Jesus Christ, what in the seven hells was that?!

lacktheknack:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
....What in the actual fuck is going on in this thread?

I'm trying to make sense of all this but my brain keeps shutting itself down as a defense mechanism.

This.

I mean, basically, Lilith made a big OP explaining her love of Touhou, and now there's poo everywhere. I think I missed a lot of important things.

It doesn't help that my knowledge of Touhou consists mostly of this.

That's all you really need to know anyways. This one song may as well be touhou itself. it gets remixed with more than just clowns:


it even absorbs other songs.

Bullet hell eh? Well I might enjoy the gameplay... Will investigate.

*drinking Metallic Tea-Xi*

Casual fan of the series here. you disappoint me Lilith!

first of all, while you got Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil in here, what about the other games that came before? 5 games came before that, and Its important for that to be remembered.

Another thing, you went to the memes to quick! you talked about Cirno, referenced nine-ball but you only side mentioned Utsuho? no mention of Patchouli? Penta Flare spell card for you.

What about the fact that as the series has gone on, the cannon games actually do begin to so a variance. what about Shoot The Bullet and Aya? yeah, the core gameplay is about the bullets. analyzation of the patterns, mastery of the timings, and when your NOT being assaulted, the pretty designs. but mostly not winding up a bullet-spam sandwich.

by the way, whoever said theirs only fairies as enemies? no. I can also remember crows, books of doom, and even swarms of leaves. it depends what game your playing and what stage. so what if its only bullets, that's most FPS between tank sections, right?

another thing. you went to the memes most people already know. what about the MMD dogfight videos showcasing fanwork of fights as they may have been in 3d?

also, no knock of Civilization. /sigh.

or the mention that the cannon games are pulled together by one man, so the work of the fans stretches VERY far from there. or the Minecraft Gensokyo to scale?

I love seeing some touhou pop up, but I know for a fact id bite at it.

SecretNegative:

lacktheknack:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
....What in the actual fuck is going on in this thread?

I'm trying to make sense of all this but my brain keeps shutting itself down as a defense mechanism.

This.

I mean, basically, Lilith made a big OP explaining her love of Touhou, and now there's poo everywhere. I think I missed a lot of important things.

It doesn't help that my knowledge of Touhou consists mostly of this.

Oh sweet Jesus Christ, what in the seven hells was that?!

The theme song of one of the bosses, feat. Ronald McDonald. In Japan.

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