Compelling reasons to own a 3DS?

Luigi's Mansion was one of my favorite games ever. It had that classic Nintendo charm and aesthetic, focused on the ghosts (which have always been my favorite of the Mario characters), had some interesting puzzles, and was just fun as hell. As some of you may be aware, Luigi's Mansion 2 is coming out in the not way too distant future... for the 3DS... a system which I don't own.

As much as I love the game, I'm having a difficult time justifying the purchase of the rather expensive 3DS to myself (when I already have a normal DS which rarely sees much use because I prefer console play) just for one game. A cursory examination of the game library on Amazon for the 3DS (needless to say, not the most organized of lists) didn't bring to my attention many other games I'm just dying to play. There's a new Pokemon title coming soon (but it'll also be playable on the normal DS). And also the promise of a new Paper Mario, though I'd have to wait on the reviews before I made a decision on that one.

But my brain won't listen to logic, it refuses to shut up and demands that I chase away any niggling doubts that the 3DS might be worth purchasing so that I could play Luigi's Mansion 2. So I figured instead of trying to search through an unintuitive list on Amazon, I would come ask the Escapist community (those of you who own 3DS's anyways) if they felt there were any reasons I had missed for owning a 3DS.

As a final note, in case anyone was thinking of suggesting it, I'm just gonna go ahead and nip Ocarina of Time and Starfox in the bud right now. Don't get me wrong, I love both games to death, but they're also available on virtual console for the Wii, which means I could play them on a big screen, instead of in teeny weeny eye-strain-o vision, if I wanted to replay them.

TLDR: Name some compelling reasons for which one might want to own a 3DS.

1: Super Mario 3D Land

2: Kid Icurus: Uprising

3: Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (The Updated Version)

4: Star Fox 64 3D

5: The Upcoming Monster Hunter Tri

6: The Upcoming New Super Mario Bros. 2

7: The Many Upcoming Awesome Games for the 3DS

Those are the reasons.

Mr.Mattress:
1: Super Mario 3D Land

2: Kid Icurus: Uprising

3: Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (The Updated Version)

4: Star Fox 64 3D

5: The Upcoming Monster Hunter Tri

6: The Upcoming New Super Mario Bros. 2

7: The Many Upcoming Awesome Games for the 3DS

Those are the reasons.

Add Super Street Fighter IV and Mario Kart 7 to this list of 3D games and you've got it. I also use my 3DS for Netflix and it's great. I play Pushmo and Mini Golf which are both from the eShop and those are great as well. God I hope Capcom brings over Monster Hunter 3G (Tri G, whatever) to the US, but it is Capcom.

I should preface that I went from an original, first, DS (the fat, slanted, grey one) to a 3DS so unless you went DS -> DSXL -> DSI -> DSIXL -> 3DS then it may not be completely worth it but if you're getting it as your first or as a huge upgrade like me then it's totally worth it. You can't play GBA games on it like a DS but it's still worth it.

If you really, REALLY, only want Luigi's Manson then you could always wait for that to come out and see if it would be worth it with it, Nintendo may come out with a combo style like Mario / Zelda was.

Don't forget Virtue's last reward (the sequel to the excellent 9 hours 9 persons 9 doors). From what I've heard the Japanese release was met with good ratings.

Also, Fire Emblem: Awakening. You do not understand how pumped I am for an American release. Especially, since the last game didn't get a foreign release because of shadow dragon's poor sales. FE: A was a fucking christmas miracle for the FE community.

Here's some more:

1:Resident Evil: Revelations

2:Pullblox

3:Colors 3D

4:Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance

5:Upcoming Monster Hunter 4!!! (So excited)

6:Complete backwards compatibility with the DS

Mr.Mattress:

3: Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (The Updated Version)

4: Star Fox 64 3D

Do either of these add anything significant (apart from 3D) to differentiate them from the originals. As I said in my post, I love both games to death, but since they're available on virtual console for Wii, I'd rather just replay them there with a big screen.

Mr.Mattress:

7: The Many Upcoming Awesome Games for the 3DS

Fill me in. Apart from Luigi's Mansion, what should I be looking forward to?

Qitz:

I should preface that I went from an original, first, DS (the fat, slanted, grey one) to a 3DS so unless you went DS -> DSXL -> DSI -> DSIXL -> 3DS then it may not be completely worth it but if you're getting it as your first or as a huge upgrade like me then it's totally worth it. You can't play GBA games on it like a DS but it's still worth it.

If you really, REALLY, only want Luigi's Manson then you could always wait for that to come out and see if it would be worth it with it, Nintendo may come out with a combo style like Mario / Zelda was.

Yeah, I've still got the original grey monstrosity myself. Looks like they're gearing up to release the 3DS XL though, which might help alleviate some of my concerns about the smaller screen. And if I get lucky, maybe they will package it with Luigi's Mansion. Sounds like waiting might be a good call.

Kpt._Rob:

Mr.Mattress:

3: Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (The Updated Version)

4: Star Fox 64 3D

Do either of these add anything significant (apart from 3D) to differentiate them from the originals. As I said in my post, I love both games to death, but since they're available on virtual console for Wii, I'd rather just replay them there with a big screen.

Mr.Mattress:

7: The Many Upcoming Awesome Games for the 3DS

Fill me in. Apart from Luigi's Mansion, what should I be looking forward to?

1: Star Fox is just a Graphical Upgrade. However, I heard that they fixed the Water Temple in OoT so that it's not the most annoying level in the game.

2: Well, besides Luigi's Mansion 2, there's a New Paper Mario, A New Contra (I kid you not), A New Harvest Moon, some new Professor Laytons, A new Animal Crossing, and a New Scribblenauts.

ToastiestZombie:

5:Upcoming Monster Hunter 4!!! (So excited)

Has Capcom actually confirmed they're porting it over? That or Tri G? Last I heard is that if they did it wouldn't have online play but person-to-person and capcom isn't actually known for porting stuff.

As for what else to look forward to, provided your into the types of games, Lego Batman, Resident Evil, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Rythim Thief, most of which have a demo available on the 3DS, Super Smash Bros thingy, Lego Lord of the Rings, Lego Starwars.

So a good deal.

Qitz:

ToastiestZombie:

5:Upcoming Monster Hunter 4!!! (So excited)

Has Capcom actually confirmed they're porting it over? That or Tri G? Last I heard is that if they did it wouldn't have online play but person-to-person and capcom isn't actually known for porting stuff.

As for what else to look forward to, provided your into the types of games, Lego Batman, Resident Evil, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Rythim Thief, most of which have a demo available on the 3DS, Super Smash Bros thingy, Lego Lord of the Rings, Lego Starwars.

So a good deal.

I think this is enough of a confirmation:

It's an exclusive to, Monster Hunter 4 isn't gonna be on any other console.

ToastiestZombie:

Qitz:

ToastiestZombie:

5:Upcoming Monster Hunter 4!!! (So excited)

Has Capcom actually confirmed they're porting it over? That or Tri G? Last I heard is that if they did it wouldn't have online play but person-to-person and capcom isn't actually known for porting stuff.

As for what else to look forward to, provided your into the types of games, Lego Batman, Resident Evil, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Rythim Thief, most of which have a demo available on the 3DS, Super Smash Bros thingy, Lego Lord of the Rings, Lego Starwars.

So a good deal.

I think this is enough of a confirmation:

It's an exclusive to, Monster Hunter 4 isn't gonna be on any other console.

I seriously don't understand Capcom.

It's obvious that Capcom is now trolling the hell out of PS3, 360, and PC gamers, what with there being literally zero Monster Hunter games on a load of systems that most core gamers actually give a damn about, and on systems that the games would sell by the absolute truck load. It's almost like Capcom doesn't even know what they are doing anymore.

Yeah, I know about the Japanese only MMO on the PC and 360, but none of us English speaking people aren't allowed even a earshot from the goddamn servers.

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

Qitz:

Has Capcom actually confirmed they're porting it over? That or Tri G? Last I heard is that if they did it wouldn't have online play but person-to-person and capcom isn't actually known for porting stuff.

As for what else to look forward to, provided your into the types of games, Lego Batman, Resident Evil, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, Rythim Thief, most of which have a demo available on the 3DS, Super Smash Bros thingy, Lego Lord of the Rings, Lego Starwars.

So a good deal.

I think this is enough of a confirmation:

It's an exclusive to, Monster Hunter 4 isn't gonna be on any other console.

I seriously don't understand Capcom.

It's obvious that Capcom is now trolling the hell out of PS3, 360, and PC gamers, what with there being literally zero Monster Hunter games on a load of systems that most core gamers actually give a damn about, and on systems that the games would sell by the absolute truck load. It's almost like Capcom doesn't even know what they are doing anymore.

Yeah, I know about the Japanese only MMO on the PC and 360, but none of us English speaking people aren't allowed even a earshot from the goddamn servers.

Monster Hunter's prime demographic is Japan, lots of people in Japan own the 3DS. The PSP got tons of sales when Monster Hunter came out for it. So they're putting it on the 3DS. Simple really.

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

I think this is enough of a confirmation:

It's an exclusive to, Monster Hunter 4 isn't gonna be on any other console.

I seriously don't understand Capcom.

It's obvious that Capcom is now trolling the hell out of PS3, 360, and PC gamers, what with there being literally zero Monster Hunter games on a load of systems that most core gamers actually give a damn about, and on systems that the games would sell by the absolute truck load. It's almost like Capcom doesn't even know what they are doing anymore.

Yeah, I know about the Japanese only MMO on the PC and 360, but none of us English speaking people aren't allowed even a earshot from the goddamn servers.

Monster Hunter's prime demographic is Japan, lots of people in Japan own the 3DS. The PSP got tons of sales when Monster Hunter came out for it. So they're putting it on the 3DS. Simple really.

Fair enough, but Monster Hunter could be incredibly successful in the west if Capcom knew what they were doing.

Japan is only a small country after all.

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

I seriously don't understand Capcom.

It's obvious that Capcom is now trolling the hell out of PS3, 360, and PC gamers, what with there being literally zero Monster Hunter games on a load of systems that most core gamers actually give a damn about, and on systems that the games would sell by the absolute truck load. It's almost like Capcom doesn't even know what they are doing anymore.

Yeah, I know about the Japanese only MMO on the PC and 360, but none of us English speaking people aren't allowed even a earshot from the goddamn servers.

Monster Hunter's prime demographic is Japan, lots of people in Japan own the 3DS. The PSP got tons of sales when Monster Hunter came out for it. So they're putting it on the 3DS. Simple really.

Fair enough, but Monster Hunter could be incredibly successful in the west if Capcom knew what they were doing.

I highly doubt it, Monster Hunter really won't appeal to many people who weren't fans already in the west. It's a heavily japan-influenced hardcore action/adventure RPG with a relatively unrealistic art style. It's a pretty niche game, and to be honest most Monster Hunter fans would already have or would be getting a 3DS for this game. Well, they could make it a western game if they dumbed it down by a LOT.

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

Monster Hunter's prime demographic is Japan, lots of people in Japan own the 3DS. The PSP got tons of sales when Monster Hunter came out for it. So they're putting it on the 3DS. Simple really.

Fair enough, but Monster Hunter could be incredibly successful in the west if Capcom knew what they were doing.

I highly doubt it, Monster Hunter really won't appeal to many people who weren't fans already in the west. It's a heavily japan-influenced hardcore action/adventure RPG with a relatively unrealistic art style. It's a pretty niche game, and to be honest most Monster Hunter fans would already have or would be getting a 3DS for this game. Well, they could make it a western game if they dumbed it down by a LOT.

Well, Monster Hunter hasn't got teenage loli girls with huge breasts, or some feminist bloke with daddy issues has it?

I think Monster Hunter does appeal to westerners, big swords, huge monsters, why wouldn't westerners like those sort of games, I sure as hell do, and if many other people knew about the series, I'm sure they would too. They don't need to dumb down a single thing, beyond making the controls more user friendly.

If they can release it over here on the 3DS, why not a console version, as monster hunter is more suited to console style of play anyway. Monster hunter feels too clunky and too complex for handheld gaming Imho.

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

Fair enough, but Monster Hunter could be incredibly successful in the west if Capcom knew what they were doing.

I highly doubt it, Monster Hunter really won't appeal to many people who weren't fans already in the west. It's a heavily japan-influenced hardcore action/adventure RPG with a relatively unrealistic art style. It's a pretty niche game, and to be honest most Monster Hunter fans would already have or would be getting a 3DS for this game. Well, they could make it a western game if they dumbed it down by a LOT.

Well, Monster Hunter hasn't got teenage loli girls with huge breasts, or some feminist bloke with daddy issues has it?

I think Monster Hunter does appeal to westerners, big swords, huge monsters, why wouldn't westerners like those sort of games, I sure as hell do, and if many other people knew about the series, I'm sure they would too. They don't need to dumb down a single thing, beyond making the controls more user friendly.

Nah, it's more the core gameplay. Loads of Japanese media has tons of badass, western and manly shit flying around yet they never really get an audience outside there. In Monster Hunter it is most likely that without perfect strategy and sheer luck you will die within five minutes. I bought Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii, and after killing a few low level enemies accidently ran into the final boss monster of the friggin game! And of course I died. You really think western gamers who are more inclined to play stuff like Skyrim and CoD would be bothered with the massive grind and skill building that Monster Hunter requires?

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

I highly doubt it, Monster Hunter really won't appeal to many people who weren't fans already in the west. It's a heavily japan-influenced hardcore action/adventure RPG with a relatively unrealistic art style. It's a pretty niche game, and to be honest most Monster Hunter fans would already have or would be getting a 3DS for this game. Well, they could make it a western game if they dumbed it down by a LOT.

Well, Monster Hunter hasn't got teenage loli girls with huge breasts, or some feminist bloke with daddy issues has it?

I think Monster Hunter does appeal to westerners, big swords, huge monsters, why wouldn't westerners like those sort of games, I sure as hell do, and if many other people knew about the series, I'm sure they would too. They don't need to dumb down a single thing, beyond making the controls more user friendly.

Nah, it's more the core gameplay. Loads of Japanese media has tons of badass, western and manly shit flying around yet they never really get an audience outside there. In Monster Hunter it is most likely that without perfect strategy and sheer luck you will die within five minutes. I bought Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii, and after killing a few low level enemies accidently ran into the final boss monster of the friggin game! And of course I died. You really think western gamers who are more inclined to play stuff like Skyrim and CoD would be bothered with the massive grind and skill building that Monster Hunter requires?

World of Warcraft has 11 million players (most of them are westerners) and that requires more grinding that all the Monster Hunters combined.

Sure they are different games, but you get my point.

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

Well, Monster Hunter hasn't got teenage loli girls with huge breasts, or some feminist bloke with daddy issues has it?

I think Monster Hunter does appeal to westerners, big swords, huge monsters, why wouldn't westerners like those sort of games, I sure as hell do, and if many other people knew about the series, I'm sure they would too. They don't need to dumb down a single thing, beyond making the controls more user friendly.

Nah, it's more the core gameplay. Loads of Japanese media has tons of badass, western and manly shit flying around yet they never really get an audience outside there. In Monster Hunter it is most likely that without perfect strategy and sheer luck you will die within five minutes. I bought Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii, and after killing a few low level enemies accidently ran into the final boss monster of the friggin game! And of course I died. You really think western gamers who are more inclined to play stuff like Skyrim and CoD would be bothered with the massive grind and skill building that Monster Hunter requires?

World of Warcraft has 11 million players (most of them are westerners) and that requires more grinding that all the Monster Hunters combined.

Sure they are different games, but you get my point.

I do get your point. BUT! World of Warcraft grinding is very different to Monster Hunter grinding. In WoW you pretty much do extremely repetitive things without actually gaining any player skill, you're just levelling up stats so you can beat some powerful enemy. In Monster Hunter grinding is purely skill based, there are no stats and different weapons really only make minor differences. Hell, you could probably beat the last boss in Monster Hunter straight out the gate if you're good enough. But chances are you're not, so you've got to go through actually training your own skills in defeating monsters. It's just something I really don't see western gamers liking.

[EDIT]But anyway, I don't want to fully derail this thread so I won't be responding anymore. Let's agree to disagree. It's been a nice little conversation.

In my opinion 'The 3ds has some port and regular exclusives' should not be a reason to get a 3ds. It's pretty expensive to just go on that alone. And really, that's all there is to the 3ds as well. Some normal exclusives and ported older game exclusives. The 3d thing is a gimmick, and as countless reports have said the way the 3d works makes you strain your eyes and can give you headaches. I've played on one for a few hours and I hated it. I turned the 3d off after only maybe 10 minutes of playing.

Imo you shouldn't get the 3ds at all. Why? Nintendo's business tactics with it. They're basically forcing games to only come out for the 3ds even though the normal ds is still far more popular. They want to force people to get a 3ds, which in turn means more money for them. I hate it when companies try to remove your choice with tactics like that.

sanquin:
In my opinion 'The 3ds has some port and regular exclusives' should not be a reason to get a 3ds. It's pretty expensive to just go on that alone. And really, that's all there is to the 3ds as well. Some normal exclusives and ported older game exclusives. The 3d thing is a gimmick, and as countless reports have said the way the 3d works makes you strain your eyes and can give you headaches. I've played on one for a few hours and I hated it. I turned the 3d off after only maybe 10 minutes of playing.

Imo you shouldn't get the 3ds at all. Why? Nintendo's business tactics with it. They're basically forcing games to only come out for the 3ds even though the normal ds is still far more popular. They want to force people to get a 3ds, which in turn means more money for them. I hate it when companies try to remove your choice with tactics like that.

Wait wut? You do realize the 3DS is an entirely new console? It's as big as leap as there was from the Gameboy Colour to the Gameboy Advance, quite a bloody big one. It's like saying Sony are scumbags for making games for the PS3... it's just silly. And you can still play DS games on your 3DS, so it's not like Nintendo are restricting you to 3DS games only.

ToastiestZombie:

Jazoni89:

ToastiestZombie:

Nah, it's more the core gameplay. Loads of Japanese media has tons of badass, western and manly shit flying around yet they never really get an audience outside there. In Monster Hunter it is most likely that without perfect strategy and sheer luck you will die within five minutes. I bought Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii, and after killing a few low level enemies accidently ran into the final boss monster of the friggin game! And of course I died. You really think western gamers who are more inclined to play stuff like Skyrim and CoD would be bothered with the massive grind and skill building that Monster Hunter requires?

World of Warcraft has 11 million players (most of them are westerners) and that requires more grinding that all the Monster Hunters combined.

Sure they are different games, but you get my point.

I do get your point. BUT! World of Warcraft grinding is very different to Monster Hunter grinding. In WoW you pretty much do extremely repetitive things without actually gaining any player skill, you're just levelling up stats so you can beat some powerful enemy. In Monster Hunter grinding is purely skill based, there are no stats and different weapons really only make minor differences. Hell, you could probably beat the last boss in Monster Hunter straight out the gate if you're good enough. But chances are you're not, so you've got to go through actually training your own skills in defeating monsters. It's just something I really don't see western gamers liking.

Okay, better example, what about Dark Souls then, that's purely skill based, and that has been successful in the west. Western gamers are not all pussies that want to be hand holded through everything. That's why there has been a backlash to these sort of games, and I'm sure as hell our fellow Yahtzee doesn't particularly like that sort of thing either.

There shouldn't be no justification in the world how Monster Hunter shouldn't be on the other consoles, or PC (Hell it already is in some respects). It's just straight up denying everyone, and keeping the games niche.

Nevertheless, that's what I think anyway.

Mr.Mattress:
I heard that they fixed the Water Temple in OoT so that it's not the most annoying level in the game.

They didn't fix the Water Temple. The way they changed the controls, you can put on/take off the Iron Boots much more quickly, rather than pausing, selecting boots, taking them off or putting them on and unpausing to resume. Effectively making the Water Temple much less of a hassle.

Some reasons I believe make the 3DS worth owning:

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
Tales of the Abyss
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D

Complete backward compatibility with the Nintendo DS library. There are also several fun games on the Nintendo eShop such as:

Doodle Fit
Zenonia
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition

If you're in the market for a Nintendo DS anything, I greatly recommend getting a Nintendo 3DS instead of any of the other iterations. Or you can hold off for a little bit longer and get a Nintendo 3DS XL, if you're into that sort of thing. But yeah. 3DS. Get it.

sanquin:
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The 3D functionality, while being the core selling point, is ENTIRELY optional. A 3DS is also completely backward compatible with anything the DS has to offer and quite frankly, the 3DS has quite a few interesting games. Not to mention there's an entire eShop at your disposal that also sells DSiWare. And if they're pushing everything onto the 3DS, as you say, that's even MORE reason to get a 3DS instead of a normal DS. Even though I'm pretty sure they haven't completely abandoned the DS.

Also also when you compare the prices, a 3DS is what...40 bucks more than a DSi XL? 40 extra bucks gets you access to an eShop that sells you more than what the DSi Store sells, access to all the current games AND last gen games, AND access to any new games that are going to be coming out. There's literally no reason to forsake the 3DS in favor of a last generation model of the same thing that can do considerably less.

Double post, please ignore.

Devil Summoner Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei 4 are being released for it.

Also, MH is a no go. Its by Capcom so DLC galore and a huge chance it will never make it to the US. Plus, the fans...

Kpt._Rob:
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It's an awesome, awesome handheld.

Believe me, before I bought mine I was very skeptical if this was something I was actually going to enjoy, or if it was going to be a massive waste of time.

I bought it and started fiddling with the gimmicks, the augmented reality and the 3D camera. I had fun with the AR Cards, but it's not that kind of stuff that sticks with you.

The games on the 3DS are REALLY fun. Some of the best handheld titles.

Not to mention: The 3D effect, once you get used to it (most people try it for 2 minutes then decide they don't like it, kind of like a picky eater taking one bite of food and saying they hate that dish forever) boosts your immersion by a ridiculous amount. I sometimes feel like I'm falling into my 3DS. It's surreal.

Anyway, if you haven't made the decision yet, I implore you to buy a 3DS. I'm a very stingy individual, I hate spending money, and the $170 plus games I've spent on my 3DS was NOT a waste. I've had it for months and I still love the thing to death.

...buy one.

I wouldn't (and indeed haven't) buy a 3DS yet. Yes, there's some good games for it, and good ones are about to be released.
But, we all know there's gonna be a revision of it soon. Like the DS lite, a slight redesign with improved screens and a bigger battery seems likely for the 3DS.
By then maybe the next gen pokemon games will be announced/releasing, and the used market will have these current great games for cheaper.

So yeah, i'd wait a while for the next 3DS to come out, buy it then, and grab a bunch of cheap used games.

 

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