PS4 VS PC, wrong. PS4 = PC, Discuss

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The Madman:
it's a closed system dedicated purely to gaming as opposed to a PC and all its myriad uses and background programs

We will have to see on this count.

the system is of course not purely for gaming any more considering all the random crap that console developers have shoved into it THIS generation, much less all of the applications that will be shoved in for the next gen consoles!

SkarKrow:
I think it's really sad that this thread has devolved into yet ANOTHER console vs PC bullshitathon.

Really, it's pathetic, do you know what you gamers should be caring about?

The fucking games. Not the god damn hardware. I sat though the first hour or so of the presentationt hinking "yeah and thats great but show me a fucking game". Then they showed me Killzone: Shadow Fall and I fucking squeed when I saw those Helghast eyes because it looked fucking FUN.

Thank you, we need more people like you, consoles main point is to play freaking games, playing games on a pc is only a secondary function. The question is, if the games will be exclusive to consoles or there will be a mass exodus towards complete multi-platforming, which in that case the whole pc vs consoles argument holds weight.

What a sorry excuse for a sales pitch. Why would a console want to be more like a PC? Unlike a PC, you don't have to buy upgrades every couple years, consoles run games more smoothly than PCs, they are easier to make games for, and the controls follow a simple patern.

Not saying PC gaming is worse. It has it's own strengths, but consoles shouldn't be trying to compete with that. Remember in 1980 when computer/console hybrids came out to compete with computers? Were they top sellers?

ph0b0s123:

Meatspinner:
People were installing Windows on the Xbox 360 when it came out.

This topic is 7 years to late

Well that never happened, so no it is not to late.

Glademaster:
Every gen we have this and it is nothing new. Consoles have always been watered down PCs and this no difference. The raw power of PC more than makes up for the "bloatware" running on PCs while consoles never reach the power of PCs. It is not beside the point of comparison with raw power if you are saying they are equal which they are not and never will be. A console is for a completely different type of person that wants to play on PC and no that is not a bad thing to have different standards.

No, it is new. Apart from the original xbox, no console has had x86 pc hardware or run x86 code.

And PCs have not always had x86-64 so yeah that is not a valid definition of being a computer.

Glademaster:

ph0b0s123:

Meatspinner:
People were installing Windows on the Xbox 360 when it came out.

This topic is 7 years to late

Well that never happened, so no it is not to late.

Glademaster:
Every gen we have this and it is nothing new. Consoles have always been watered down PCs and this no difference. The raw power of PC more than makes up for the "bloatware" running on PCs while consoles never reach the power of PCs. It is not beside the point of comparison with raw power if you are saying they are equal which they are not and never will be. A console is for a completely different type of person that wants to play on PC and no that is not a bad thing to have different standards.

No, it is new. Apart from the original xbox, no console has had x86 pc hardware or run x86 code.

And PCs have not always had x86-64 so yeah that is not a valid definition of being a computer.

Yes, it is a good definition. x86 and it's extensions. Or is every time new instructions are added to x86 CPU's like MMX, SSE and x64, then they are no longer PC CPU's. Your definition makes no sense.

Glademaster:

ph0b0s123:

Meatspinner:
People were installing Windows on the Xbox 360 when it came out.

This topic is 7 years to late

Well that never happened, so no it is not to late.

Glademaster:
Every gen we have this and it is nothing new. Consoles have always been watered down PCs and this no difference. The raw power of PC more than makes up for the "bloatware" running on PCs while consoles never reach the power of PCs. It is not beside the point of comparison with raw power if you are saying they are equal which they are not and never will be. A console is for a completely different type of person that wants to play on PC and no that is not a bad thing to have different standards.

No, it is new. Apart from the original xbox, no console has had x86 pc hardware or run x86 code.

And PCs have not always had x86-64 so yeah that is not a valid definition of being a computer.

Already said in previous and original post that the PC and consoles sharing all their hardware has only happened once with the original xbox. And that was because Microsoft, to get a console out quickly, had to start with what they knew. For Sony, who have year of experience building console hardware, to decide to make a PC for their next console. This is new.

Unless Microsoft throw a curve ball with the hardware spec of the xbox next, two out of the 3 consoles on the market will be PC's from a hardware point of view. So rather than consoles killing off the PC, they have been assimilated by the PC architecture.

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