An Impromptu Witcher Lets Play - now with the Witcher 2!

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Bara_no_Hime:

SkarKrow:
Yeaeh I've noticed some people do and there are names I recognise but the avatar is the first thing I look at, I think I've been Jiraiya and Franky's crotch before and otherwise that may be all the avatars I've had. It could be worse, you could be Fappy and get chewed out whenever you change your avatar!

Ha, true.

Speaking of which....

Help me choose my Witcher Avatar. I've made four by Google Image searching and then cropping/resizing. Here are the results:

#4: Female Geralt SD
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Im gonna go with number 4 as well, if only because it is a bit funny, and looks like it would be a good avatar. As for tips and stuff with the game? Well I played and beat the first one years ago, so excuse my memory. Make sure you buy books to research monsters whenever you can, as doing so gives you extra mob drops for potion making(i think). You can sometimes get information from townsfolk, so try and give some of them a gift or two to get some info without spending much money.

The game is VERY slow burning, but if you can trudge through it, then you will have a rewarding experience. Right now there isnt much going on in your game(from what you said), but later you will have to make some very grey choices that will effect the enemies you fight, your allies, and part of the games ending.

Later on you will have to do a "detective" quest and let me tell you that it is a pain in the ass to do it right without a guide. You can accuse the wrong person if you are not careful, so when you get to that quest, I suggest you explore EVERYWHERE, and pick up all the evidence you can get before making a decision.

As I said before, it is a very slow, but long game. If you can get through the slow parts, I am sure you will enjoy yourself. Pretty much all the sex card stuff is optional anyways. There are very few times when you cant just say "naw" when the option to have sex comes up. I hope you enjoy the game, and make sure you have potion buffs and upgrade your equipment!

Bara_no_Hime:

So warned. Still, I'm committed to giving it a chance. And, so far, it's been mildly amusing. Better than replaying Temple of Elemental Evil for the third time in as many months.

I really wanted to like it too, I don't think I would have been able to play it for that long if I didn't but I just could not enjoy the game and The Witcher 1 is probably going to be the one game I couldn't bring myself to finish, maybe I'll give it a second chance someday

Witcher 2 was a step in the right direction though I wouldn't call it a great game it was more above average but I haven't played the other path yet so that might improve my thoughts about W2

If I made a thread every time this happened to me...
I'd get an infraction for spamming.
XD

GOG is so lovely.

And I'm home. And the only two votes go to... #4! So that one wins. ^^

Tanis:
If I made a thread every time this happened to me...
I'd get an infraction for spamming.
XD
GOG is so lovely.

Oh, I only made it because I was specifically against playing this game previously. I also bought Duke Nukem 3D and Railroad Tycoon when they were on sale, but I have nostalgic love for both of those games, so no need to damn GOG - thank them maybe. ^^

Broderick:
As I said before, it is a very slow, but long game. If you can get through the slow parts, I am sure you will enjoy yourself. Pretty much all the sex card stuff is optional anyways. There are very few times when you cant just say "naw" when the option to have sex comes up.

Someone said this before - that I can avoid the cards by avoiding the sex.

Here's the thing - I don't WANT to avoid the sex. The cards are detracting from my enjoyment of my character being allowed to sleep around, which makes me sad, because I enjoy sex in my games (it's rare enough). What I don't enjoy is sex being treated like a collectable mini-quest.

I've been told (and seen some screen shots of, thanks to Google Image search) that the Witcher 2 improves on this by getting rid of the cards and having R rated sex scenes. And of that, I approve wholeheartedly.

RT:
Read them in order. There are actually two - Yennefer and Ciri are introduced in the short stories and once the saga starts, they are full-fledged co-protagonists.

Here's the problem with that - the first short story collection (the Last Wish) is the one that costs money. I wanted to read some of the free stuff first and decide if I wanted to buy the book or not. The free short story (that I just downloaded from GOG) will give me a preview, so that might do it, but if it doesn't, I wanted suggestions on which of the fan-translated stories to read.

Perhaps it would be easier to ask which of the fan translated ones are the least spoilerific for earlier stories?

Be aware that the fucking dice game is broken. Apparently it's even worse in the sequel, but here, it's just plain unfair. Your opponent always goes last, which gives them a massive advantage. Also, they magically get better dice roles, just by virtue of being "more skilled" at the game.

This seems as good a place as any to throw this question out: so far, have you found any of the characters that you actually like?

I ground through about 30 hours of the game and it felt like really hard work. It took that long for it to dawn on me why that was though - it was because I hated EVERY SINGLE ONE of the characters, especially Gerald, and I couldn't care less if he and his silver-haired buddies got their magic potions back or not. It was as though I was playing KOTOR and all of the NPCs were as annoying as Carth Onassi.

I disliked the interface, the pacing and the voice acting as well. But when I realised that it was actually the story that was putting me off, and that was supposed to be the game's strong point... n'yeah, that was the last I played of the game.

I'm in an oddly extremely similar situation. When I heard they were giving duke nukem 3d away a month or two ago I ended up getting an account and buying a few cheapies, witcher 1 and 2 being a couple of em.

Last weekend I finally started it despite not really caring about it (because I spent money on it, so now I HAVE to play it or else admit I wasted a least one coffee run per Witcher), and got around as far as you did. I never actually found an inn, I just started walking directly to where the next quest dot it to talk to the reverend, hopefully he answers his door in the middle of the night for me.

I can't say I'm loving the combat so far, seems kinda dull with just the whole click attack once, then time it to get a combo, then do that again until they die thing. I'm hoping with a bit more time it gets better once I get some new weaps and a spell or two more.

BloatedGuppy:

Curious to know what you make of the entirely appalling collectible cards the first time you encounter them.

I enjoyed elements of The Witcher, and saw what they were going for, but I found the bad voice acting, writing and mechanics kept pulling me out of the experience. This is one of those series where the sequel improved on the original in almost every conceivable way.

I remember having heard about it, but it completely slipped my mind until I actually saw the card. I actually just had to stop for a while because I was giggling like a schoolgirl. The sex caught me off guard completely, I actually thought to myself "how did that conversation lead to sex?" and then laughed out loud at the little trading card I got. Her version of pillow talk "A pleasure as always" plus the fact that she apparently thought she would screw his memories back in got a chuckle out of me too.

Why all the hate for the first Witcher? I loved it... I love the second one, too.

But GOG has some fantastic deals. I bought the Gabrielle Knights games and I... Didn't even want them

Bara_no_Hime:

Magefeanor:
I don't see why they couldn't.
4 or 5 of the books is about a female witcher/enchantress Geralt is raising, so they could probably make a few games about her :p

Again, books? I would like to hear more about these books, and if they are just spin-offs from the game or if they existed before the game. And, either way, how well are they written?

I fi nd them pretty well written.
Currently only 2 books are translated to english and the third one is coming this summer or something
Can't quite remember, I have it pre-ordereded
Anyways, the gasmes are based on teh books, and as far as I know kinda an expansion of the books or something.
Sorry, if I'm not makign sense kinda drunk, afgain sroorye
EDIT: oh and some inkeeper or something mentiones ciri in the witcher at some point, canŠt rembemeber which one

AD-Stu:
so far, have you found any of the characters that you actually like?

Triss. I quite like her, what little I've seen.

Also Geralt is sort of sweet in a dopy way. He keeps trying to be badass. Or maybe that's just the voice actor.

Anyway, update time.

I've played a little more of the game. Geralt flirted with the girl at the inn, collected 10 barghast skulls, talked to the Rev, lit five torches, did... something? at a Place of Power, and walked the girl at the inn to her grandmother's house - all while being assaulted by tons of angry green dogs (barghasts). And apparently killing said fuck-ton of dogs has earned Geralt a tumble in a mill in about 24 hours. Oh, and then I killed some Drowners.

Which has brought me to an issue - I'm supposed to bring someone Drowner Brains, but apparently I need to read a book to be able to do that. Do I get that from the woman I gave the skulls to?

So yeah, that's what I've been up to.

Oh. Group style absolutely wrecks Drowners. Thanks for that advice.

Anything coming up that I should be aware of?

EvilRoy:
I'm in an oddly extremely similar situation. When I heard they were giving duke nukem 3d away a month or two ago I ended up getting an account and buying a few cheapies, witcher 1 and 2 being a couple of em.

That was the sale when I bought it too! I guess I should've gotten the Witcher 2 then as well, considering how good everyone says it is.

Well Steam tempted me enough to buy The Binding of Issac. I generally stay away from games that make you die a lot, but when I saw it for 99 pence I just couldn't say no any longer. And it was one of the best purchases on my account, that game is absolutely brilliant.

I've steered clear of buying many games from GoG so far just because they are cheap though. Being a console kid up until about 4 years ago, most of their games don't appeal to me.

Bara_no_Hime:
1) Any advice for a first time Witcher player? Things to do? Avoid? Funny stories about your first time?

I started playing the game myself not too long ago. Haven't finished yet, but here are some things I've found in my playthrough:

- Make good use of Aard (the force push thing.) Once you've upgraded it a bit it stuns/knocks down enemies a lot more often, leaving them open to finishing moves. I've killed boss monsters in one hit with this strategy.

- Don't underestimate group style. It's riskier than taking on enemies one at a time but if used correctly it can end even a large skirmish in seconds.

- Pick up lots of alchohol and ingredients and make potions whenever you get the chance. You may not need them most of the time but once you come up against a tough fight you'll be glad they're there. Make sure to keep and eye out for scrolls with new formulas.

Bara_no_Hime:

RT:
Read them in order. There are actually two - Yennefer and Ciri are introduced in the short stories and once the saga starts, they are full-fledged co-protagonists.

Here's the problem with that - the first short story collection (the Last Wish) is the one that costs money. I wanted to read some of the free stuff first and decide if I wanted to buy the book or not. The free short story (that I just downloaded from GOG) will give me a preview, so that might do it, but if it doesn't, I wanted suggestions on which of the fan-translated stories to read.

Perhaps it would be easier to ask which of the fan translated ones are the least spoilerific for earlier stories?

To be fair, short stories aren't really connected between each other - they might contain hints, but that's it, they are mostly self-contained. The ones that aren't are the last three stories from the Last Wish and the last two from The Sword of Destiny. Try Sword of Destiny first.

Update:

So, I found this cave full of random plant monsters. They KICKED MY ASS SO HARD. One on one wasn't so bad, although it hurt, but then I somehow spawned three at once. I had to run away and take a potion.

Then Geralt went and had sex with a girl in the Mill. And apparently my cards aren't edited, because there were very naked breasts on this one. On the other hand, this sex scene - such as it was - included a truly funny moment. The townfolk hear the girl orgasming, and think that the Mill is haunted. I saw the joke coming, but it was delivered with such sincerity - and the girl sounds nothing at ALL like a ghost moan - that it still cracked me up. Bravo.

After that, Geralt went and got drunk with a merchant who then made me fight MORE of the plant monsters while drunk. That sucked. Good XP though.

Speaking of XP, I've noticed something. The Witcher appears to run on D&D XP - as in, the same XP chart as 3.5 Edition D&D. I recognized the XP goals from my recent play-throughs of Temple of Elemental Evil. Also, enemies appear to have diminishing XP returns, also like 3.5 Ed D&D. Obviously the level up mechanics themselves are different, but I'm amused that they ripped off their XP system from D&D.

Oh, another thing I've noticed - shop keepers seem to be really strict about what they'll buy. I found out that I could buy a book, read it, and then sell it back for a partial refund (only 1/5th of purchase, but it freed up inventory and gave me some gold back). However, some store keepers wouldn't let me do this. They'd sell me the book, and then want nothing to do with it.

Anyway, onward. I played a lot last night, so I may be skipping a few things here. I found a dead girl in a crypt and killed some ghouls in the dark. And I got the fire spell! Yay! Although it just seems to spam fire rather than throw my weapon, so apparently I misunderstood the spell description. No matter, I got it.

Meanwhile, Abigale the witch made a potion that made the kid I "helped" earlier trip balls. I guess the girl with him died after all. That's sad. I say "helped" in quotes because the kid was already safe - I had them open the gates to save the girl, who apparently died anyway, along with like three guards who tried to help me. We'll come back to that thought later.

So, having helped all four townsfolk and sold some Ghoul blood and Drowner brains, I finally got the old priest to give up the location of the Salamanders. Apparently that damn inn keeper knew, so back to - oh, he's dead.

... FUCK! I can't store stuff anymore. I mean, sure, I can pick up stuff from the next inn I find, but my inventory is full of random crap that I haven't had a chance to store! I have SO MANY FUCKING BARGHAST SKULLS! And the people who would have bought things are not in the Inn anymore either.

Well shit. So moving on, I asked... Shani? The redhead from before with a not-very-memorable name - to wait at the inn while I kill some Salamanders. Groovy.

So I do so. Group style absolutely WRECKS them. Thanks again to whomever suggested that. I just focus on the boss and all the minions just sorta die. Then, once I'm minion free, switch to Strong style and finish the boss if he's still standing. Brilliant!

And.. hey Alvin. Why are you in a cave? I thought you were tripping balls with the witch lady. And who are these other kids? Simon and Theodore?

....

I thought that was funny. :p

Anyway, apparently child slavery for some reason? Whatever, I have walls to blow up. And... for some reason Abigale the witch is in the other half of the cave. That's weird. Hiding from an angry mob that I just spent an hour of gameplay attempting to avoid. Fuck. And... sex for some reason? Sure, why not.

Outside, the priest is being a misogynistic douche, so Geralt accuses all those guys he recently did quests for as the murders, rapists, and slavers they apparently are. And then he intimidate the priest and just walks out. Nifty.

And straight to boss fight and - shit! Abigale died. Reload. Redialogue. Reintimidate. And - fuck she's dead again, even faster this time.

So I reload my save from inside the cave and switch to the proper magic and group style BEFORE going out to redialogue again. And this time group style successfully keeps Abigale safe from the dogs. Horray! And - with no chance to save - angry mob! Fuck.

Double fuck - Abigale is DEAD AGAIN. With only two enemies left standing. Screw it. They're fucking dead and - and she's alive? What, was she just knocked out? Every other time someone falls over it's meant they were dead.

Wait. Does that mean all of my previous reloads were unnecessary? Fuck!

Which brings me to my first true annoyance with the game - I can't hold agro worth shit. This was a problem when I was escorting the waitress to Grandma's, but it was even worse here. I'm supposed to protect an NPC and I can't keep the enemies attention on me, but I also can't move when I'm surrounded, which means I can't adjust targets to help the NPC.

I was fairly okay with the combat before this. Now I'm getting annoyed. How many more escort/protect the NPC quests am I going to get?

... something tells me, the answer is a lot.

Speaking of which - Shani! Or whatever your name is. I get to... escort you across town, at night. And I am entirely out of inventory space. Wonderful.

Fortunately, aside from one Ghoul, nothing attacks. And then... wait, why is Geralt not killing Mikol the Rapist? Geralt killed all his buddies. I mean, I guess that might make them less likely to let Geralt into the city, but -

Oh! Sudden but inevitable betrayal! Horray! I get to kill him after all. Prepare to face Group Style, asshats--

Why did Geralt just drop his sword? No, stop, don't -- FUCK!

Chapter 2: I'm in prison.

**head-desk**

...?

Has everyone grown bored with this? If so, I'll stop posting (and delete the links from the OP). You guys seemed to enjoy my bumbling around previously, so I kept going, but if you're done I don't need to keep going. I'm still going to play more - other than NPC guarding, the game has been surprisingly Okay so far - but I'll only keep updating if you guys actually want to read about it.

Let me know one way or another.

Bara_no_Hime:
...?

Has everyone grown bored with this? If so, I'll stop posting (and delete the links from the OP). You guys seemed to enjoy my bumbling around previously, so I kept going, but if you're done I don't need to keep going. I'm still going to play more - other than NPC guarding, the game has been surprisingly Okay so far - but I'll only keep updating if you guys actually want to read about it.

Let me know one way or another.

No, it's quite amusing. You're giving me a vicarious look into the game until it goes on sale again.

But it's up to you if you think the effort is worth the typing. People often read LPs and then ditch, having amused themselves, without commenting.

lacktheknack:
No, it's quite amusing. You're giving me a vicarious look into the game until it goes on sale again.
But it's up to you if you think the effort is worth the typing. People often read LPs and then ditch, having amused themselves, without commenting.

Ah! Thank you.

I guess I just assumed that people would want to make fun of me for... I dunno, being chased by plants or reloading the battle because I thought Abigale was dead. You know, in a friendly "ha ha, I did that the first time too" sort of way.

But sure. If nothing else, it lets me think about what I've just played from a critical standpoint a little more coherently as I attempt to recall everything important that happened to me in a session.

Anyway, thanks! Always nice to have a fan. ^^;;

I've been following it. Good stuff (I just don't have enough patience with the controls to do it myself).

I've enjoyed reading about you're exploits in the game. I've beaten it a couple of times over and is probably my favourite game.

Witcher is based on the Aurora Engine that they used to make Neverwinter Nights so it has that connection to DnD as well. I noticed the similarities when I played it but the fact it was based off of Aurora Engine surprised me.

If you have too many ingredients, why don't you just fool around with some potions? They'll eat up your reserves quickly and you could get something useful out of it.

Also, Abigail had sex with you, in part, to try and bribe you to take her side against the angry mob. Witcher is all about gray decisions as opposed to black and white like other games, so it's not about making the best choice, it's about making the[b]least[b/] awful choice.

PS: Aard is amazing.

Bara_no_Hime:
...?

Has everyone grown bored with this? If so, I'll stop posting (and delete the links from the OP). You guys seemed to enjoy my bumbling around previously, so I kept going, but if you're done I don't need to keep going. I'm still going to play more - other than NPC guarding, the game has been surprisingly Okay so far - but I'll only keep updating if you guys actually want to read about it.

Let me know one way or another.

Given this game's reputation, I can't think of a more qualified let's player.... uhhhh I mean, I'd really like to get your opinion of it.
kill that many barghest, the bitch better put out
A lot of this will come in helpful if I'm ever able to play this game.
One thing I wanted to know was if you had any trouble adjusting to the Witcher's difficulty or if you even needed to.

For what its worth im finding this thread amusing, but im not the most chatty of posters so ain't the type to comment after each update. I have bookmarked it for easy following too.

Also you previously mentioned Sailor Moon abridged in the anime abridged thread which ive since discovered and am now rather enjoying so yar, dont think no one is reading what you write :P

Bara_no_Hime:

norashepard:
Protip: If you aren't fighting a boss, or a strong enemy, just keep doing the spin attack. Just over and over and over.

... spin attack?

You may need to explain how I do that. As I said, I only just reached the first town before I had to save and call it quits until later.

Nora means Group Style, it's the one that involves spinning your sword around like a madman and, as the name implies, is the best style for group melee. The three styles are represented by the small animal icons under the health & energy pools. Just space-pause then click the icon you want, or press the corresponding style key if you want to be a real-time-switching-badass.

loc978:
I've been following it. Good stuff (I just don't have enough patience with the controls to do it myself).

porous_shield:
I've enjoyed reading about you're exploits in the game. I've beaten it a couple of times over and is probably my favourite game.

Frankster:
For what its worth im finding this thread amusing, but im not the most chatty of posters so ain't the type to comment after each update. I have bookmarked it for easy following too.

Aww! Thanks guys! I'm glad everyone's enjoying this thing. I'll try to keep it amusing then.

Frankster:
Also you previously mentioned Sailor Moon abridged in the anime abridged thread which ive since discovered and am now rather enjoying so yar, dont think no one is reading what you write :P

Glad you're enjoying it. It is my very favorite abridged series - mostly because it is a show I love and they stuck with it. Well, for one full season and a movie, anyway. Here's hoping they get back and at least finish the Doom Tree arc.

DVS BSTrD:
Given this game's reputation, I can't think of a more qualified let's player.... uhhhh I mean, I'd really like to get your opinion of it.

^^;; Um, thanks?

And yes, my lack of Safe Search when using Google Image has revealed a lot about the Witcher 2's sex scenes. Previously, I thought those were from this game.

And yes, I am quite gratified to notice that, for the most part, the ladies have no problem making advances on Geralt.

DarklordKyo:
Nora means Group Style, it's the one that involves spinning your sword around like a madman and, as the name implies, is the best style for group melee.

Yes, figured that out eventually. And yes, group style is fucking awesome. Which leads me to... (see next post)

Bara_no_Hime:
Has everyone grown bored with this?

Not at all! Do continue.

Bara_no_Hime:
I was fairly okay with the combat before this. Now I'm getting annoyed. How many more escort/protect the NPC quests am I going to get?

... something tells me, the answer is a lot.

I don't remember all that many, actually. I also recall having issues right around the same point you're having them, and then never really having issues again right up to the point where I lost interest and stopped played, which was many hours later. I think you'll be alright.

I did quite like the story development that the townsfolk themselves summoned that horrible hound via their collective awfulness. That very grey, bleak world is what I enjoy the Witcher games for.

Chapter 2 Continues! Briefly. Edit: Or not so briefly. Wow, that was a lot for not that much gameplay. Perhaps I should be a bit less verbose next time?

Okay, so I haven't had much time to play today (lots of work, and then my spouse had me watch all 5 episodes of the Nostalga Critic talking about the odd numbered Star Trek movies), but when I did, this happened:

So, Prison. The Professor, with his tiny glasses, snarked at me a bit. And, while I really wanted to use my fire spell to burn him through the bars, the game just had me sit there and take it. I guess Mr. Bean Geralt is a little slow on the uptake.

So instead I played dice with the elf in the corner.

Let me pause for a moment and talk about the dice game. Poker rules, it says. The thing is, poker has strategy because there are only so many of each card. For you to have 4 of a kind, your opponent can't have any of that same card. With dice, everything is random.

Except this is a video game, so random goes out the window (sadly, in this case) in favor of... I have no honest clue. Only betting the minimum, I lost 15 gold to the Dwarf before I figured out how to quit without quitting mid-hand. I took me three rolls to figure out how to reroll the dice I didn't want to keep.

So, when I had to play the elf, I was less than thrilled. Fortunately, he mostly sucked and I ended up profiting a whole ONE GOLD. I'm so glad that mini game is being used so constructively.

Anyway, after that there's a Cockatrice to kill, and wouldn't you know it - a fat idiot wants to try. But no, I get to try brawling for the first time. I'm not quite sure I understand the mechanics since there are no flaming fist icons to tell me when to click, but I won, so who cares?

Question - will I be forced to fist fight for plot again? Should I actually practice this? Actually, the same goes for hte dice - is this ever necessary to advance the plot again? Please say no.

Onward! I have a sword. And new potions. And I'll get my old stuff back when I kill the monster. Great. Except I'm already out of inventory space (not alchemical, the regular stuff slots) so that is going to be an interesting moment. I wonder if my stuff will fall out on the floor or just disappear forever.

In any case, I now have a silver sword, and a quick rest lets me spend my most recent three points upgrading Silver Group style. Just in time for like a dozen drowners to rush me and be reduced to quivering bits in seconds. I FUCKING LOVE GROUP STYLE! I was right to spend all my points leveling the silver version. Fuck yeah!

I also met a Paladin. Well, he's a rose something or other, but he's also an entitled noble who hunts monsters for fun and whose father committed suicide by monster and choked it to death. Lovely. This is one NPC I don't give the slightest shit about - except, wait, he carries the torch for me!

Not like that (although that would be a nice twist - Geralt, the bisexual Mr. Bean. And a fanfic is born...) he provides light! Which I could do by carrying my torch, but then I can't fight, and fighting in the dark SUCKS ASS as the ghouls in the crypt before proved. So he's the moogle from Crystal Chronicles. Fine. Let's do this.

And... that's where I had to stop due to real life.

Anyway, that's it for today. I'll post again tomorrow noonish-afternoonish at work. When, hopefully, Geralt will get some cock.

Er, cockatrice.

Bara_no_Hime:
Damn you Good Old Games! You went and did it. You tempted me and I made the purchase, but I resisted your lure for months until... today.

When I installed the Witcher.

I wasn't going to play that game. I had reasons. And then you sold it to me for a dollar a few months ago and I couldn't say no to a 1 dollar game.

And now, as I looked through my GOG account for something new to play, there it was... sitting there, tempting me.

So, fellow Escapists... it is official. I am playing the Witcher.

Discussion Value: A two-fer!

1) Any advice for a first time Witcher player? Things to do? Avoid? Funny stories about your first time?

2) Discussion (or stories) about times when Good Old Games or Steam has had a sale and you bought a game you didn't want to play just because it was cheap (and then ended up playing it).

Also, if there's interest, I will post updates about my playthrough of the Witcher.

UPDATE: And the Avatar Winner is:

#4: Female Geralt SD
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Thank to everyone who voted. ^^;; All two of you.

UPDATE 2:
Because it seems to be amusing, I'm doing a sort of impromptu Let's Play as I play through the game. This is in addition to the discussion topics above - and in fact continues to address certain points like my changing view of Geralt (Low Fantasy Mr. Bean that he is).

Skip to:
Chapter 1: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.404351.16751467
Chapter 2: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.404351.16758205

what was your beef with the witcher? that game is fantastic! in fact im currently trying to find time to play through the game for a 3rd time. i assume you downloaded the free upgrade to the enhanced edition, right?

i recently bought hydrophobia on steam for $1. my expectations were mariana trench low, considering id heard nothing good about the game, but i actually enjoyed it a fair amount. it was certainly worth at least a dollar

Bara_no_Hime:
Question - will I be forced to fist fight for plot again? Should I actually practice this? Actually, the same goes for hte dice - is this ever necessary to advance the plot again? Please say no.

No, you don't. Thankfully both the dice and fist fighting are completely optional from that point on and generally not really worth bothering with unless you're the type that has to get 100% completion.

Hope you enjoy the game. I rather like The Witcher, although I have to agree that it really feels padded at points. You could easily cut a chapter or two's content from the game without really effecting the main plot, and unfortunately most of the side-distraction stuff isn't terribly interesting either. Then there's the mediocre combat and a whole slew of other nuisances like the voice acting and translation/dialogue problems.

Still it was CDProjekt RED's first game so I'll cut them some slack, especially having seen how well Witcher 2 improved over the original. It's why I'm so excited for 3; if it has the same sort of leap in quality as between 1 and 2, we're in for one hell of a game.

And keep it up with the Let's play. Might not always comment but I'll keep reading.

Bara_no_Hime:
Chapter 2 Continues! Briefly. Edit: Or not so briefly. Wow, that was a lot for not that much gameplay. Perhaps I should be a bit less verbose next time?

Okay, so I haven't had much time to play today (lots of work, and then my spouse had me watch all 5 episodes of the Nostalga Critic talking about the odd numbered Star Trek movies), but when I did, this happened:

So, Prison. The Professor, with his tiny glasses, snarked at me a bit. And, while I really wanted to use my fire spell to burn him through the bars, the game just had me sit there and take it. I guess Mr. Bean Geralt is a little slow on the uptake.

So instead I played dice with the elf in the corner.

Let me pause for a moment and talk about the dice game. Poker rules, it says. The thing is, poker has strategy because there are only so many of each card. For you to have 4 of a kind, your opponent can't have any of that same card. With dice, everything is random.

Except this is a video game, so random goes out the window (sadly, in this case) in favor of... I have no honest clue. Only betting the minimum, I lost 15 gold to the Dwarf before I figured out how to quit without quitting mid-hand. I took me three rolls to figure out how to reroll the dice I didn't want to keep.

So, when I had to play the elf, I was less than thrilled. Fortunately, he mostly sucked and I ended up profiting a whole ONE GOLD. I'm so glad that mini game is being used so constructively.

Anyway, after that there's a Cockatrice to kill, and wouldn't you know it - a fat idiot wants to try. But no, I get to try brawling for the first time. I'm not quite sure I understand the mechanics since there are no flaming fist icons to tell me when to click, but I won, so who cares?

Question - will I be forced to fist fight for plot again? Should I actually practice this? Actually, the same goes for hte dice - is this ever necessary to advance the plot again? Please say no.

Onward! I have a sword. And new potions. And I'll get my old stuff back when I kill the monster. Great. Except I'm already out of inventory space (not alchemical, the regular stuff slots) so that is going to be an interesting moment. I wonder if my stuff will fall out on the floor or just disappear forever.

In any case, I now have a silver sword, and a quick rest lets me spend my most recent three points upgrading Silver Group style. Just in time for like a dozen drowners to rush me and be reduced to quivering bits in seconds. I FUCKING LOVE GROUP STYLE! I was right to spend all my points leveling the silver version. Fuck yeah!

I also met a Paladin. Well, he's a rose something or other, but he's also an entitled noble who hunts monsters for fun and whose father committed suicide by monster and choked it to death. Lovely. This is one NPC I don't give the slightest shit about - except, wait, he carries the torch for me!

Not like that (although that would be a nice twist - Geralt, the bisexual Mr. Bean. And a fanfic is born...) he provides light! Which I could do by carrying my torch, but then I can't fight, and fighting in the dark SUCKS ASS as the ghouls in the crypt before proved. So he's the moogle from Crystal Chronicles. Fine. Let's do this.

And... that's where I had to stop due to real life.

Anyway, that's it for today. I'll post again tomorrow noonish-afternoonish at work. When, hopefully, Geralt will get some cock.

Er, cockatrice.

The fistfight doesn't necessarily follow the rhythm-based system. You do have a dodge button in the form of (I think) one of the mouse buttons, so it's mostly dodge & counter. Likewise, I could see Geralt at least experimenting just to see if he also swings that way, the experiment that turned him into a witcher both made him disease immune, and made him sterile.

Chapter 2, part 2.5

Sewer level!

Actually, this part proved to be fairly straight forward. Kill drowners, loot dungeon, reach cockatrice. I killed it while Paladin boy stood there and took hits. Meh, I'll take it. And, since I chatted with him earlier, I recovered all kinds of alchemical loot from it. Nifty!

On the way out, we get attacked by thugs. I kill them and look their corpses. Wee!

Outside, he recommends I speak to a Detective. And I blinked because I am now picturing Harry Dresden. Sadly, I would be disappointed.

But not yet! First I have to collect my belongings! And before that, I need to go to the inn marked on my map to drop off all the stuff I just looted to make room for my overstuffed pack. So I do so. Also, I hit on a waitress, but apparently her husband beats her. Can I go beat him to punish him for his asshole wife-beating ways? No? Well fuck. Even if she didn't sleep with me afterwards, that would have been worth it.

Ah well. Off to pick up my stuff. Which I do. The game warned me to make sure he coughed up everything, but upon taking all my inventory appears to be full as it should be. Oh, and I get paid handsomely for the cockatrice's head. Nifty. What I don't notice (until later) is the package from the Hot Potato quest is missing. When I (later) go back for it, it is gone. Was it drugs? Did he snort the whole package while I was gone? Well, I guess that quest is fucked. Anyway....

Back to the Inn! To drop off many, many Barghest skulls (I have had 62 of them) and other loot, including books, and pick up some of the potions I left there. Once my inventory looks good again, I head off to meet the Detective dude.

He... looks kinda like the Professor. Enough that I found him rather off-putting. Damn it, I was hoping for Harry Dresden. Ah well. He puts me on a case having to do with the salamanders and their front man. Okay, fair enough. Also, some salamanders and the Professor are planning to jump me outside. Oh! Boss fight time! I finally get to kill this fuc-- wait, why am I standing there while the Professor walks away? No! My group style would easily win this battle! Geralt, what are you... right, clearly I have to do the actual quest before the game will give me my boss fight, even though he was just fucking standing right there. Sigh.

So I kill the thugs and loot their corpses (while a beggar just sort of stands there watching - creepy voyeur). And then... I go back inside so I can level up.

I am level 10. Yay! Wait, does this mean I don't get any more Bronze Talents? There are still Bronze abilities I want! But wait, I have a potion to give me a silver talent! And... I can't spend silver talents on Bronze skills. Well, fine, I'll take a silver one. But does this mean that any bronze talents I didn't already take are lost to me forever? That sucks. Can someone please confirm/deny this for me?

Anyway, onto the investigation. This involves a LOT of running around, and without the catharsis of random barghests to kill. Sigh. I talk to one NPC, who sends me to another NPC, etc. I shake down an alchemist I talked to before, and buy some stuff from him. Oh, and I sold him 42 Barghast skulls! For 200 coin. Eh, it's something. He also wants me to investigate a tower (and I learned later that the previous Witcher in the area who I'm looking for in addition to everything else was ALSO trying to find this tower, so two-fer). Apparently it involves finding and reading books. Oh goodie.

I talk to the Jailer again and he wants drugs. I had some, but I stored them in the Inn, so back there and - someone named Coleman is dead. I have no idea who Coleman is, so I just move on. I pick up the drugs and take them back to the Jailer and - fuck, I'm supposed to go talk to fucking COLEMAN now. Geralt did a little speech about not getting involved - apparently letting the elves take the boxes earlier was bad? Well, the alternative was to kill them - is murdering everyone really the answer?

Speaking of MURDER... while I was bored, I decided to talk to one of the prostitutes. Who turned out to be the madamme. She wants me to murder thugs who are bothering her girls. Sounds good to me. The first place I went, I found some thugs and off-ed them. The second place was empty. Did I miss something? Or hasn't it spawned yet? Oh well.

Also, I found a book merchant who will BUY MY BOOKS! I headed back to the inn and loaded up, making sure I'd read them all first, and sold the whole pile. THen, with my massive pile of cash, I BOUGHT a ton of books, read them, sold them back, and bought more books! So many books. I know how to skin all sorts of monsters now. However, I ran out of money before being able to read all of the plant identification books. Damn.

Anyway, I deliver my drugs to the jailer and he spills his guts. Actually, I think this is what led me to the fence, which led me back to the alchemist for our third conversation, but I already mentioned that above.

So basically a LOT of running between the Jailer, the Inn, the Alchemist, and a few other locations around the map.

Finally, all roads lead to the Hospital. Awesome. Except the guard at the door won't let me in. Boo. He wants to see a ring, and the only ring I have that opens doors is the Fire Priest one I left back at the Inn, so guess where I'm headed!

One ring later, the guard STILL won't let me in. What the fuck?! Is this the wrong ring? What ring do I need to shut this guy up?

However, I'm sneaky. I slip around the back and talk to the gardener. I trade some muttin for roses - because why not - and get the info that Shani the redhead knows more. Okay, so are all my allies in this town suspect? Am I Fox fucking Mulder (Trust No One) in addition to Mr. Bean? Well, that would explain all the sex with redheads.

**rimshot**

Oh, and I still can't enter the building of the Hospital. The sneaking only got me into the garden. Sigh.

So on to see Shani. I head to her house (and sell a newly acquired and read book to the book merchant) and inside I meet Grandma.

As I proceed to loot Shani's house, grandma stops me occasionally to yell about the end of the world. Shani does not appear to be home. This eventually gets disturbing. I pick up an key item called "Grandma's Diary". Feeling that this likely means something, I try to read it, but just get a message about reading it resulting in bad things. So I save (this is important) and offer Grandma the diary as a gift.

She kicks me out.

I return and she's suddenly happy, but forces me into a drinking contest. Since I left my massive stockpile of beer back at the inn, I only have two drinks before I'm out (except for vodka, but I need that for potion making). I click end. Grandma accuses me of being drunk and kicks me out again. I go back in and am immediately kicked out again. Fuck.

RELOAD.

This time, instead of the diary, I give grandma a beer. Grandma takes a shine to me and tells me to head upstairs. I head upstairs... and no one's there. I head down to talk to grandma again (and maybe rest until Shani gets home) and grandma tells me to go upstairs again. OKAY. I head up stairs again and...

.....

........

I save my game, quit, and that was it for that game session.

So. Any advice? I seem to be hitting a lot of dead ends. Where should I go next? Should I stay upstairs and wait? How long? Should I leave and come back later?

Or should I go investigate this tower and the swamp area the Alchemist mentioned? That sounds kinda fun. If nothing else, I could use the money after blowing all my cash on books, selling them all back, and doing this again until I was out of money.

Oh, and there's the prostitute quest and the Warehouse to investigate, but it's only 10 AM - all this running around only took me a few hours in game. I'd have to rest somewhere. I guess I could crash at the Alchemist's since his house is near one of the prostitutes in trouble (although I didn't see anyone there the previous night - was it too late in the evening?)

Also, Geralt made a point about the graveyard being a good place for witcher work, but the grave digger won't let me in to kill monsters for him. There's a gift option, but I have no idea what he'd want (unless he wants the human remains I've been carrying around since the crypt).

Note: I have no strategy guide or FAQ for this game. I'm using you all for that. ^^

So yeah, which of these things (or combination) should I do next? Command me, o loyal readers.

I honestly can't remember many details about the plot, so I can't give any pointers beyond what people have been saying, I think i remember being stuck at the part you are at though, so good luck on that.

(keep it up, this is fun to read! brings back some memories on playing the game)

Shani works all day at the hospital and returns at night. You need a different ring to get into the the hospital, the one you have doesn't hold any sway in the city. I thought I just remember bribing the guy honestly. Why don't you go find Siegfried and see what he's up to, I seem to remember him having something to do with things as well.

Hm as far as I recall Siegfried had something to do with a certain ring , besides that here's a tip with the plants that tend to eat you alive, use a torch (and other incandescent ... things) to fight them, they're sensitive to fire... I remember those things gave me heaps of trouble... but they're usually explained in the bestiary section of the journal.

Another tip would be to not rely solely on group style, since you'll often meet single opponents.

Still, if you manage to have the ''game's gameplay'' fun, then The Witcher might not be as bad a some might say.

I found the story to be pretty good considering the average, the later part after the whole investigation thing picks up quite a bit, anyway cheers for my first post!

Update: Chapter 2 Continues.

Okay, on the advice of porous_shield, I left Shani's house until later and went on with other things. First off, I went to see that dwarf with info about the Tower and is also a suspect, because I didn't have enough of those. After a quick trip back to the Inn and a couple of sales, I had JUST enough money to buy both important books for the Alchemist (who may or may not be evil).

So I went to see him. Apparently I need to find 10 Sephrot to open the Tower. Neat. I have two already, and the next one is...

In the Hospital. So I need to talk to Shani first (yes, I realized later this was wrong, but nevermind, it seemed right at the time).

I ran to check on Siegfried, but he wasn't where he said he'd be (turned out he was over by the Dike, but I didn't realize that until later - we'll get to that). So... with many hours left in the day to kill, and no need to rest, I decided to go kill shit in the sewers. Because why not?

So I did. And I found a door that I could open with a key I found earlier! And then I murdered FUCKTONS of "Harry Spider Cultists" I think? And found some places of power and a whole ton of loot, including some seriously valuable stuff. Once I'd explored the whole place (and another side area in the sewers) I used a Place of Power Teleport for the first time.

I was really excited to try it, because, as I understood it, I could travel between any Place of Power in the game, and thus gain Fast Travel.

BZZT! Wrong! Instead it is a one-way teleport to the Alchemist's house. Which, yeah, was really useful to leave the Sewer (and will be useful in the fucking swamp to avoid tolls going back) but otherwise is utterly useless.

Anyway, it was evening, so I teleported to the alchemist, took a quick run down to the inn to drop stuff off and get drunk with some guy so he'd give me info. Fun times. Then I stumbled through the streets to see Shani.

Geralt's drunken stupor was just wearing off when I arrived. Grandma was still happy to see me and sent me upstairs. And Shani... told me she worked at the hospital and said some weird stuff about the war. Okay.

Actually, this got a little funny. Geralt sounds like he's trying to get in her pants, and she keeps talking about the war, which makes him hilariously uncomfortable.

Oh, and I questioned her about the sword, which she got in the war, from some guy who died, yada yada, next link in the chain oh god. So apparently Scully isn't betraying me after all. Unless she is. Fucked if I know.

After that, feeling rather less than satisfied, I headed to the Warehouse to kill some thugs, stopping on the say to finish saving the prostitutes from thugs, so lots of thugs died that night. At the Warehouse, Geralt pretended to be a golem for the lulz and then killed everyone for the guard captain. Neato. It was either that or accuse him of being evil, which seemed pointless since he was obviously betraying them. Unless he wasn't, trust no one, yada yada.

After that, went to talk to Carmine. I was hoping she'd offer to service Geralt for his services, but she just set him up with freebies (for a flower) from the regular prostitutes. Meh.

Over by the graveyard I killed a Ghoul and an incorporeal undead of some sort. That was neat.

And then night was ending, so I went to talk to the guard captain (who wasn't around at night) and Geralt didn't quite accuse him of being Hitler but it was close. However, lack of evidence has put him on the back burner once again.

At this point, like three new NPCs got named and I went to talk to them and I honestly started to lose track because holy crap this is a lot of running around at different times of the day and night - that you can't easily control (the way you can in, say, Xenoblade) without any form of Fast Travel (my Kingdom for a Fast Travel System! like Skyrim) and a map that doesn't adjust itself based on time so it will tell you to go somewhere when the NPC is somewhere else. It doesn't help that all of the NPCs you suspect also have other quests for you that sometimes cross the main one in really bizarre ways. Case in point.

With no other option, I bribed the guard at Hospital (a whole 50 gold) to let me in. Success. I helped out Shani by giving her some herbs I'd had since forever ago and the game gave me a little quest that seemed to say "Tonight, go have sex with Shani at her house". Okay then. Shani also told me to, and I quote, "wait until Dusk and then try to get the guards on the prisoner drunk".

So I ran back to the inn, picked up a stack of 10 beers, and came back. I rested until evening and learned, to my happy surprise, that I still am getting Bronze level up thingys so I didn't miss out of those skills I didn't take yet. Although I am wondering how high of level I need to be to get silver.

And then I offered some trail mix to the goddess statue and got not 1 but THREE Sephirot all at once. Yay! And now the quest wanted me to go to the Dike. Okay. Someone else directed me there. I actually tried to go during the night (when I bumped into Siegfried, who made them open the door for me) but only found some drowners so had to wait for morning. And, since I just moved things until evening... I had another night to kill.

So now I tried to get the guards drunk. And.. they wouldn't drink. I had the options of Farewell and Bribe. So, fuck it, I bribed him 10 gold and... that was it. Wow. Cheap guards.

The guy said the name of the FUCKING ALCHEMIST god damn it! And then he coughed and sputtered in a way that I expected him to die, but he just kept doing it so whatever. And some thugs showed up and died horribly when introduced to Group Style. Except one guy who I finished with Strong.

The guards identified the assassins as yet another NPC who I haven't spoken with yet. Sigh. More suspects.

I spent part of the night running around the grave yard hoping spawn more monsters, but only got one ghoul. Oh well.

Then I went out to the Dike, but again, no one was there but us Drowners. So I killed them and camped until morning just so I could get on with things. Having done so, I spoke with teh Merchant Dude whose name I can't remember. He wanted proof that I had Salamander badges (for some reason) and was willing to sell me a Sephirot for 500 gold. FUCK. Between books and bribes, I was broke. Poor me had to return to town to get some cash.

Which I did. By selling my non-Witcher weapons, which I never use (other than the torch to see by, and I know for a fact the Alchemist has an extra one of those in his cupboard) I made a bunch. I need more, though, so I ran to the Inn to get some books and a few valuables to sell.

On the way there I ended up talking to the town Gossip and having a very strange conversation. Because I'd saved before hand, I figured I could do better, so I reloaded and tried again. She asked for a scarf, I had one, and she wanted gloves instead, and I couldn't get the dialogue to let me give her the gloves as well. So after some frustrating times around the conversation (she knows he's Geralt, why does Geralt keep saying that he's a friend of Geralts?!) I reloaded and tried the conversation again. It took a few tries but finally Geralt said the dialogue about actually being Geralt again and this time I gave her some gloves I found on a dying woman in the hospital. Which led to sex because why not and - WHY IS SHE HOLDING A DEAD CHICKEN DURING SEX?! She's the town gossip, not the fucking Chicken Lady. What the hell?!

So, brain freshly scarred, I sold some crap and came up 50 gold short. SO I went to the brothel and gambled with the nice Carmine. I saved before hand, but actually managed to win the three games it took to get 50 gold in profit. That's three matches of three, in case that wasn't clear. I tried to give her a Rose as well, but she didn't give me the option to do so. One of the other prostitutes did. The Gossip Girl picture was far more disturbing.

Finally, again wishing for a Fast Travel button, I went back to the Merchant and gave him the salamander badges. And he paid me 600 gold. Ffffffff.... oh fine. I turned around and gave him 500 back for the Sephirot. Yay! He also gave me a mission to kill somethings in the swamp. And the game said the next sephirot is there, so onward to the swamp!

Next time.

I can see why Yahtzee quit during this part of the game. This section is VERY confusing and hard to follow, and very slow due to the lack of Fast Travel or the ability to deal easily with character schedules. It takes forever to find where and when you're supposed to be somewhere, and once you do you end up being sent off to another person with another set of requirements. It is very dull and frustrating. If I hadn't taken a break to go murder things in the sewer, I'm not sure how I'd have dealt with this.

On the other hand, I'm not sure what Yahtzee's issue with potions was. There was a tutorial on them in the intro. Did he mean making up new potion recipes? Whatever, I hardly ever use potions anyway.

So anyway, until next time.

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