That it is more childish than other mediums. I can understand why people think this but really it is no worse than TV, music or even book. And to be fair they have a fair bit more time to establish their medium.
Also because so many great games look like children's cartoons.
"Why are you wasting your time on something for kids? You're an adult."
Even if all video games were suitable for kids (news flash: they aren't), what's wrong with enjoying family friendly entertainment?
"Why bother with some dumb game?"
Bonus points if uttered by a sports fan (not that there's anything wrong with being a sports fan, but you get what I mean).
This one doesn't pertain to me personally, but...
"Children shouldn't play violent/mature games!"
You're absolutely right. That's why the industry has an age-based ratings system so responsible parents have a good idea what's suitable for their kids to play. You know, just like the ratings systems in place for movies and television?
I usually just get blank stares when I mention the ratings system though, like they don't believe me. I guess they don't realize that the media generally overlooks that little factoid for the sake of sensationalism. That, or they can't wrap their brains around the idea that not all video games are intended for or marketed towards children in the first place.
I was going to contribute, but then I read the thread, and not only did it cover all relevant points, I may also have had a rage-aneurysm.
Seriously, fuck the kind of people who spout nonsense like this with a straight face.
You and me both. I'm really glad I don't know anyone who regurgitates this bull crap. I got ticked off enough just reading this thread.
Give it time, though. Sooner or later, games will be considered normal, and this stuff will die a slow, painful death.
Anything that FOX news says about videogames is a pet peeve to me.
Anything that FOX news says about videogames is a pet peeve to me.
True, remember what they said about Sim City? That was the stupidest thing I have watched.
Yeah that list seems pretty accurate to me. Both relatives, people at school and total strangers all think I'm kinda stupid for enjoying them so much. Plus if you think just playing is bad imagine the loads of flack I've gotten for going to college and getting a degree in game design. Fortunately most of my relatives support my decision and since I'm so far from home, I basically will never have to deal with old school people I'm basically free of disapproval.
In short yeah it sucks but eventually it won't matter anyways as people begin to realize just how large playing games is in our culture. Once we hit that point acceptance gets a bit easier.
My mom always asks "are you winning them games"?
Mother, one does not simply "win" at doing fetch quests in Skyrim...
Although she said this to me when I played SNES games as a child, those games were sort of "win or lose" sort of games.
Another one is: Why don't you pause the game? I mean, how am I going to pause the game in the middle of a match during Multiplayer?
The most frequent one I hear from my family is "But you could be spending your money on something more worthwhile!".
Yes, thank you, I will consider reminding you of that when you buy your 8th set of Tableware for about tripple my monthly gaming costs. It just bothers me sooo much when I buy a Vita and they just roll their eyes at me and the next day they come home with some dinner plates that cost them atleast twice if not thrice as much. It's not like we were in desperate need of a 5th set of dinner plates as much as I needed the Persona quadrilogy!
My (grand)parents are the worst offenders about this.
"Why do you keep spending your money on 'nothing?'"
Because I enjoy my games. At least my games aren't going to cause my to lose my voice, my stamina, turn my lungs black or potentially kill me, like your cigarettes. At least MY 'nothing' isn't a health hazard, to me and everyone around me. Nor does it cause me to smell like smoke, rot my teeth/gums and cause my breath to stink. Come back when you kick the tobacco nonsense.
I have to say my biggest pet peeve has to do with non gamers assuming any game played on a computer that isn't a modern shooter is World of Warcraft.
My friends are cool people and aren't for mocking, but I could be playing League of Legends, Recettear, Torchlight II, or anything else and the first question that gets asked is "Hey man, that looks fun is that World of Warcraft?" Every time...
Being told playing games is anti-social by a group of people who watch television for 2-4 hours every night.
Especially when it's a multiplayer game and you are on Skype to two of your best friends...
This is what I hated from my parents, now they understand it's not a childish thing at all. Heck my Mum now plays Legend of Grimrock, so when ever I visit them, she wants help with a puzzle or something XD.
Also I tend to find this video to be extremely frustrating as if games ruined this guys life.
Wow.... scapegoating much that guy? I understand the whole "Use with moderation" stuff, but to blame his own personal failures on videogames is such an immature reaction.
I can see why you found it frustrating.
OT: I think pretty much everything thing that can be said has been said. Normally I don't get annoyed at what non-gamers say, they're just being a bit ignorant is all, it's when the media start declaring we're all psychotic serial killing rapists that really grinds MY gears of war.
When I was in my early teens I used to play a LOT of Maplestory. My parents eventually sat me down to discuss about how I had no life because of it and that it was taking over my life.
... I was 13!!! I didn't have money, I was a socially-awkward dork, as were all my friend, and they too lacked money to go out and do things, and... Well... I liked the game! I was doing just fine in school, and I was still fit and healthy (I was one of my school's fastest runners). To this date I still have no idea what their problem was.
I have a pet peeve about what some young gamers say to me.
My younger brother is a PC gamer. He plays Borderlands, Crysis, Assassin's Creed, etc. He seems incapable of understanding why I still play SNES and PS1 games. This opinion seems pervasive among younger players. I never got this kind of attention for reading an old book like Aristotle's Politcs or for watching They Live.
Random female Recruiter for the Red Cross: "So what work do you do?"
Me: "I'm a Game's Developer, I make video games."
Recruiter: "Oh like Call of Duty?"
Me: "... yep."
Another thing that I wonder about is, why is it common for someone to read 10 hours a day, or watch a football game 10 hours a day, or watch tv 10 hours a day normal? But it is considered an addiction to be playing video games for the same ammount of time?
Dated a girl who asked if I had beaten Vagrant Story every single time I defeated an enemy, opened a box, or went into another room. It was kind of amazing in an infuriating way. Same with Legend of Dragoon.
"This is so boring." I don't give a shit if you're bored by me leveling up my guys or playing Zone of Enders and beating up on some baddies. Typically, these same folks become enthralled by my house in Skyrim or something much more mundane than high-speed robot killing.
"Fighting games suck because all you have to do is (insert combo/super/character) and you win." This usually from casual players who can't understand how fighting games actually work, get bodied, and are mad. On that note, I've had my sexuality insulted four times now since I started playing Injustice: Gods Among Us because I know how to zone somewhat and if fighting games taught me one thing, noobs loathe zoning, grapplers, and rushdown.
"Do something productive." Blah blah, whatever.
On a positive note, my dad used to play SF2 with me, but was wary of games because of how I'd get absorbed in them (I once accidentally played Final Fantasy 6 for like 38 hours, but in my defense, it was FF6 and the room was already dark with no clock, so I had a hard time telling the time and no one was ever around when I went for food). Then he saw the scene in FF7 where everyone parachutes into Midgar (end of disc 2, I think?) and he was blown away. I explained what was going on and he says "Wow, I see why you're so into this. This is some deep narrative shit. And you've been playing this for how long now? Wow, this is amazing."
So that was nice to hear as a kid.
Man, I haven't had anyone talk to me like that in years. I can recall a time when I was about 17 and I was at a store with my mom and my sisters (I'm lame I guess) and said I was going to buy a game and my older sister asked me "When are you gonna stop playing video games?" and I replied "when I'm dead". What the fuck kind if question is that?
Now everyone sees it as normal I guess. My sister played my Wii with her friends when I bought one years later and now she has an xbox and ps3 at her apartment that imagine she uses with her boyfriend
In addition to plenty of the other things in this thread, being told gaming isn't social and that friends you meet through gaming (even ones you see in real life) aren't classified as having friends. Don't ask me how this works, personally I think talking about videogames with someone is just as much a conversation as anything else.
And also that TF2 is a baby game because of its art style. -_-
it really shouldn't be impacting your life outside of restricting your friends circle.
And that's what makes this a 'pet peeve', something one might find annoying, while others don't.
I'm generally pretty cool with most misconceptions, since I know I have some about other hobbies that I don't participate in.
But, when people equate games with children's toys, especially talking about how they should be "grown out" of, that really bugs me.
If anything, this shows that anyone who has a hobby just can't win 'em all. It's impossible.
"You're an avid reader? Well damn, you obviously spend too much time inside reading books! Get out, son, and get a life!"
"You're a budding writer still operating in hobbyist circles? Then you should stop wasting your talent on stuff that doesn't get published! YOU COULD BE FILTHY RICH!"
"You're a roleplayer? Damn, son, you're hitting [insert your next numbered year here] soon! Why don't you stop playing pretend and actually do something productive with your life?"
All things told by ignorant people who lack some perspective. The "Yeah, but this is different!" defence gets thrown around a lot around my household. Somehow, my father's drumming and my mother's infatuation with shitty writers of historical romances are both nobler than my wanting to explore stuff like diseased social models à la BioShock or getting a Physics 101 class through Kerbal Space Program.
Getting annoyed by this is worthless. This is just life going "Hello, just letting you know there's a generational gap incoming!". Not to worry, though, as there's soon going to be less of us to replace the Baby Boomers, and we won't grow old and grey while complaining about our parents' idea of moral degradation.
Nope, we'll just find our own things to complain about while looking at our kids or grandkids...
My parents used to do this before the social gaming boom hit. Now my dad plays tower defense games whenever he can, my mom generally can be found playing a variant of a hidden item game every now and then. As long as I have fulfilled all major social obligations like hanging out with friends, working my job, and getting some exercise they have no issue with my sitting down for 4+ straight hours to beat a game. I have gotten home more than once from something to find my dad mid quest in Oblivion, Fallout, or Skyrim.
But yea I got a lot of that 10 or so years ago and to be honest I deserved some of it since I was blowing off homework and friends for games.
Another story that is realted to my other thread was that I had a math teacher that thought video games were pointless and won't achive anyone anything in life. She even finds people who play video games for money to be weird ( I was thinking that she means people like beta testers.) but then again, after she says video games are a waste of time the next day during our 10 minute break she shows everyone a website where we can watch all movies for free even the ones in theaters. I thought that this site might be illigal since the site is all in Chinese and hear a lot of weird stories about china triyng to hack the US. But it brings up that question: How are movies any less of a time waster than playing a video game? I feel far more productive when playing a video game than watching a movie.
Sir Christopher McFarlane:
My younger brother is a PC gamer. He plays Borderlands, Crysis, Assassin's Creed, etc. He seems incapable of understanding why I still play SNES and PS1 games. This opinion seems pervasive among younger players.I never got this kind of attention for reading an old book like Aristotle's Politcs or for watching They Live.
I think it's because old greek philosophy is considered to be timeless and ''They Live'' is considered to be a classic movie. Video games aren't taken as seriously as books and movies, so I think it has the do with the idea that once you beat a game, you will never play it again sometime in the future.
I still play some of my old ps2 games, even though all of my friends think it's weird. they all gave me strange looks when I told them I bought the MGS HD collection instead of COD: MW3 in 2011.
I get all of those points usually, but the thing that bothers me the most, is when I'm nerding out about a game, and my mum will just shake her head at me, like "what is wrong with you?" Sorry mum, I like escaping.
"It's just a game."
Used to convey how meaningless/insignificant a game is, whether the context is competitive or attachment to a story and the characters in said story. It really bothers me when someone who hasn't even played the game, let alone play games, says something like that. You just don't understaaaand >.<.
They have a point though.
I've tried telling some footie fans 'Its just a game' when 'their' team loses. Never goes down well.
Eh I'm leaning towards being more sympathetic with the footballers in this case. Passion goes both ways and when it goes the ugly way, telling them in other words that it's of no consequence isn't a sensible thing to say.
I get "video games are for kids" very often. These days I just ignore them.
Also the "get a life" scenario that everyone else here seems to have, who are they to say what a life is or isn't? I find it aligns to "stop liking what I don't like" comment.
People are too opinionated when it doesn't concern them sometimes.
I'm sure it has been said a million times before, but it can always be restated. Anyway: "Why do you wast time playing video games?"
What I would say if I was busy/wanting to be a dick: "Hows that television treating you?"
What I normally say: "because its something that I enjoy."
I got another one for you;
'You're spending too much money on gaming'.
One, it's my money. Two, it's my spare money. Three, don't people have a right to spend money they've saved on things they'd like?
The only one that I really don't like is them telling me that I should have grown out of games by now or that games are for kids.
As far as I know at least half of the 'gamer' population is over 20.
For me it is the consistent accusation that video-games are by nature intrinsically geared towards children and thus a competent, singular judge of the maturity of your character. Further since they are geared solely towards children all violent video-games are made and marketed towards kids because there is no other possible audience.