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Gone Gonzo Posts: 3664 Joined: 21 Jan 2008 | For good boss battles, I'd say KH (1 and 2), and I liked how you could a charismatic character actually win. Glados isn't hard but damn funny, and I actually loved the end battle of Ep2. As for bad encounters, I'll have to say Halo 3's was a massive cock-slap. Yeh, I don't play many games with boss battles. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2164 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 | Not an end boss as such, but still good: That drugged-up crazy satanist bastard in Max Payne (his name escapes me at the moment- it's been quite some time since i played it.) He was a giant pain in the arse, mostly for all the minions he sent at your first before appearing himself. Being high as a kite, he could take a hell of a lot of damage before he died, and his ranting was genuinely unsettling, after finding all the occult stuff on your way up to him. I half expected him to turn into some kind of demon-possessed uber monster type (which would have been a bit out of character for the game, admittedly.) The satisfaction at killing him was tremendous. Bad boss? The final boss of Half Life was a bit of a let down (actually the whole Xen bit was a bit of an anti-climax.) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1228 Joined: 4 Jun 2008 | Good boss: Liquid from MGS4 that is an awsome battle especially on higher difficulties it gets so hard Bad boss: the first stalker from resistance fall of man it to easy to take it down in my opinion |
Paperboy Posts: 44 Joined: 9 Jul 2008 | Good Boss= The end boss in Portal is definately the best. Made me laugh throughout. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4082 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 |
I think the point of the last "boss" in Halo 3 was just to let people catharsise by shooting the fuck out of 343 Guilty Spark, the smug annoying little git. The real climax was that drive to the end, which was awesome. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 2 Joined: 16 Jul 2008 | MASSIVE SPOILER Bad End Boss: Sephiroth - FF7: moreso because Final Fantasies always allow you to become hilarious overpowered, even without level grinding and sidequests. What a pushover. :( |
Paperboy Posts: 26 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 |
Yeah, laaaaaame Good: Skies of Arcadia - Sort of the same effect as the PSI and to some extent KH2, the bosses just keep coming but never diminish in awesomeness.
Also, Golden Sun: The Lost Age's last boss (although...distinctly unoriginal) is a really awesome fight. I think i've based these more on the EPIC factor than anything else... |
Press Junketeer Posts: 403 Joined: 15 Jul 2008 | Devil May Cry 2: Yes, the game is crap... but the last boss is literally all of the games bosses put together in a huge, disgusting blob and it attacks you. Crysis: Good would have been calling it quits going solo on that giant tentacle monster, bad is the actual killing of that large weird thing that was just annoying and you got to use a one shot, one kill weapon. Lame. Best: Tales of Destiny 2. You have to pull off an EXACT combo at the EXACT moment to kill the final boss, but OMG is it a bad-ass move and have sweating feverishly to beat that last boss it was one of the best "YES!!!!!" Moments. I cant think of any more great bosses just this moment, that's sad :( |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1380 Joined: 16 Jul 2008 | Good end boss: Penance from FFX. Not the end boss of the plot but the ubre-end-boss for being so damn far into the game you can effectively challenge him. You can be max level with everybody and still struggle, even if you know what you are doing against him (and don't use the overdrive of a particular aeon to insta-kill him, or have any armor with insta-reraise). Bad end boss: The flying fortress from the first AC game. Too easy tbh. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1854 Joined: 8 Apr 2008 |
Reminds me of another good end boss: The Time Devourer from Chrono Cross. Defeating him the "right way" was a matter of precise timing and strategy, and it felt great to finally get everything right and use the Chrono Cross. |
BANNED Posts: 12958 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
Have you tried taking it down with just the Carbine to unlock "This is my Rifle, this is my gun"? Its a lot more challenging then. Good Boss - Laughing Octopus - the battle turned into a warped game of Spot-the-difference. And it was awesome. Bad Boss - The Albino clone brother of Agent 47 in Himtan : Blood Money. I got Silent Assassin, now you're making me shoot? What was worse is it had promise. I thought I would end up in a drawn out cat-and-mouse grudgematch, with us making traps for each other, dissappearing and blending in, sniping, etc. Instead I got that. User was banned for: Poll: What is your opinion on the Metal Gear Solid storylines?. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4000 Joined: 1 Nov 2007 | Good-GLaDoS, Portal. Not petically difficult, but so so funny. Some of the best lines in portal are in the boss fight. Bad-Bowser, Mario Galaxy....Thats...that it! That was nothing!?! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1304 Joined: 13 Dec 2007 | Good Dr. Wily (Mega Man 7) - An extremely challenging boss fight that requires extremely good timing, endurance (you have to hit him with about 28 fully charged Mega Buster shots to beat him) and some stylish dodging to survive. It doesn't feel cheap either, as you can take 5-6 hits before dying. The kickass boss fight is followed by a kickass ending as well. Sanctus Diabolica (Devil May Cry 4) - Not a particularly challenging boss fight, once you learn how he telegraphs his attacks, but it is hella fun to Falcon Punch him all those times with the Buster. Bad Gill (Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike) - First of all, he looks friggin' ridiculous. Long blond hair, his left side is blue, and his right side is red. And he's completely naked, save for a little thong/loincloth thing. Second of all: "The mark of my dignity shall scar thy DNA." What. The. Fuck. Third, that damn resurrection move. He comes back to life and fully heals himself while some aura pushes you back to prevent you from interrupting his healing? Ridiculous. |
Paperboy Posts: 27 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | Good: My most favourite boss recently is Zeus from God Of War 2. The music, mroe than anything, is awesome. Only bad part was, he survived the fight. Worst? Metroid Prime 2. It's a fairly hard boss, as are all of that game's bosses, and it's on a fucking timer. No, thank you, I'll just Action Replay past that if you don't mind. I also disliked Mithos in Tales Of Symphonia. I know every JRPG has to have the "It's over... no it's not!" twist at the end, but there was no reason for why Mithos suddenly turned into a giant robot. It just mae me roll my eyes. Final Fantasy X also has a terrible final boss, because it isn't a final boss. Tidus's monster father was the final boss, the rest was just a cutscene where everyone was suddenly invincible for some reason. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 23 Jul 2008 | I signed up simply to express my disappointment in the fact that no one mentioned King Bohan from Heavenly Sword. In all honesty, it's one of the hardest, most annoying and yet beautiful and ultimately rewarding boss fights I've seen in any game for the PS3. As for bad boss fights, there's a small bunch. " Tabuu from SSBB. This guy annoyed the shit out of me and my friend when playing co-op. Although we killed him, we have yet to find a way to dodge his flashy hit-anything-on-the-map attack. " Ocelot from MGS4. Sure, the fight had plenty of surprises, but it was just too damn easy and out of character. " The obvious Elder Scrolls "bosses". |
Paperboy Posts: 12 Joined: 23 Jul 2008 | Good Boss: Tabuu from SSBB. He's rough to fight, and he's got an attack that's completely unaviodable. Even though he's a complete ripoff of Nightmare from the Kirby Series, and a real bitch when you're trying to get his trophy. Bad Boss: Mysterio from Spiderman 2. There's this gigantic scene that's supposed to lead up to a big boss fight (but why would an alien rob a deli to begin with? That never made sense.), and it takes one right hook to kill him. Talk about an anticlimax. |
Paperboy Posts: 38 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 | Best boss fight: Kefka. An awesome song the whole way through and you have to fight a tower of doom just to get to him? Then when you do he's some kind of angel? Amazing. Bad boss fight: Metal Gear RAY in MGS2. Come on I fought Vamp a bunch of times already, why can't I just mow down Metal Gears? What do you mean you can't win? THEY'RE TOO DAMN EASY. LETS DESTROY THEM ALL! Jesus. |
Paperboy Posts: 27 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 |
That was the point of that boss fight. It was a joke. As for why he was robbing a deli, it was because he was a laughable villain throughout the entire game. He's not an alien; he's a special-effects guru who was made a fool of by Spiderman. See, the setup occurs when you run in and he's robbing the place. Then there's the cutscene where he talks about how much of your ass he's going to kick, and his life bar fills up five times over. This is all setup, and, as you say, it's building expectations for a challenging and hard boss battle. Then you run up to him and punch him once. And the life bar completely empties straight away. That is the punchline, wherein the expectations are confounded. It is called the "punch" line because, like being punched in the face, it's a surprise. Here is a wikipedia article containing information on the game's story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_2_%28video_game%29#Plot |
Paperboy Posts: 12 Joined: 23 Jul 2008 |
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Beat Writer Posts: 210 Joined: 19 Feb 2008 | Good End bosses... The worst? Sword-wielding Ganondorf at the tail-end of Twilight Princess. Easy, not epic enough, not challenging enough. That, or Master Hand. |
Paperboy Posts: 27 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | What I didn't like about that fight with Ganondorf was the way he just trudged around the arena like he'd soiled himself. If he'd been leaping about like he was at the end of Wind Waker (and a touch harder) that'd have been awesome. |
BANNED Posts: 12958 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
Screw that, I beat the guy in 20 seconds. i froze time and shot him - he couldn't regenerate, and was just instantly killed. Good - General Flying Fox - I know he's not an end boss, but still....teleportation, clone attacks and speedy like a motherfucker. And then he was finally killed by Kai after he had tried to hang her. perfect. Bad - Roach. I hated myself for hurting the guy. He was a truly sympathetic characater, which is not a trait you want in someone who you have to try and put into agony. And Emperor Tachyon. All the other in game bosses had had some general challenge to them. but you face this guy after getting your hands on the Ryno-IV. He doesn't last a minute. User was banned for: Poll: What is your opinion on the Metal Gear Solid storylines?. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1033 Joined: 14 May 2008 |
Well, really it wasn't five minutes, but that seems like the amount of time you should say if you mean 'A short period of time', whether or not it is more or less than the actual amount of time. But you probably did do it faster than me because I stood behind a pillar and said "Wait, can he get me here? No? Why not?". It sounds like you were more prepared to pull out the dirtiest ricks in the game straight away than muck around. |
BANNED Posts: 12958 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
The game had been dissapointing up to that point, I really just wanted to get it over with. And if a game isn't prepared to actually try to stop you from pulling tricks, then the battle is bad. Really, after the Godzilla battle it all kinda went downhill. You have a battle with a giant monster in your spaceship, staying tethered to life support while firing missiles at it, and that was great. but afterwards? Nothing even tried to compare. User was banned for: Poll: What is your opinion on the Metal Gear Solid storylines?. (Permanent) |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 652 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 | Good- Bad- |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 707 Joined: 5 Feb 2008 | Good: Malak from KOTOR, Bowser in Super Mario 64 (sure, you fight him the same way three times in a row, but the way the battles worked and new twists in each match were innovative and interesting back then), Dan and then Cecil from Operation: Winback Bad: Bowser from Paper Mario. The next to last boss, the Crystal guy, was challenging and actually required some tactics. Bowser had like two attacks and was just bland turn based bullshit. Not to mention the side fight you had to endure as Peach against Kammy Koopa. Blugh. Any boss who is invulnerable except for a short, randomized section is bad. I believe General RAAM was like this, because I can't recall any sure tactic to make the Krylll fly away from him. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | That Skedar at the end of Perfect Dark sucked. Oh and heres an obscure one: Satan in the Game Archangel; You have a sword which is practically a pubic hair from god, through out the game it drains to much mana to use, at the end boss all you do is use to open a door and thats it. As for the DMC2 endboss, that was one of the easiest bosses to predict, my only difficulty I had was the oversized healthbar. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 2 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 | Poor Dagon. He's not a bad final boss. He's the best final boss the game didn't let us fight. My favourite final battle to date is the duel between Naked Snake and The Boss. Less a challenging fight as it is completely beautiful. On the other end, there's the gigantic anticlimax of a boss at the end of Halo 3. Seriously. What? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | As I previously said, the MGS series is good at the whole boss battle, excluding the fury, which to me felt like Vulcan Raven Lite. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2550 Joined: 19 May 2008 | Fav end boss: Entire final battles in chrono trigger (queen zeal 1, mammon machine, Zeal 2, Lavos 1,2,3). Fighting all those one after another really gave a sense of a long and epic battle, and they were generous to give you times to switch up party members and heal and what not. lavos was also challenging, but not to the point of absolute frustration. The entire battle just felt epic, fun, and a good balance of strategy and challenge. Gannon from OoT was another good boss fight, had that same feeling as Chrono Trigger to me. least fav: Ruby and Emerald weapons from FF7. As much as i love the game and the battles are pretty hard, emerald was a complete bitch with it's crusher mover, and Ruby would just shoo off your party members screwing you over if you didn't know what to do. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 891 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 | Bad end boss: Fontaine from Bioshock. He was basically a combination of the two kinds of big daddies, was extremely patterned, and boring. Also, he was too easy. I had to turn the difficulty to hard to feel I was even fighting a last boss. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 891 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
The last boss sucked, I beat him in 30 seconds, but for extra challenge, I beat godzilla on foot |
Paperboy Posts: 36 Joined: 24 Jul 2008 | The Nihilanth of Half-Life 1. "YOUU CANNOT WIIIINNNN." |
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Good:
Going with others with Mithos in Tales of Symphonia. My all-time favorite RPG (I know, it ripped off everyone, but it did it well and with a great battle system), and Mithos's story was so sad and lonely, I felt bad for him.
The final boss in Beyond Good and Evil. I forget what he was called, but that boss was damn hard, especially the very last portion with the confusion. It took me about a half hour to beat it and as soon as I had, I jumped up and yelled, "Gotcha, bitch!" It was a great feeling. :D
Baaah, I'm a sheep; GlaDOS. I replay it all the time just to listen to her. She's hilarious.
Bad:
Ganon(dorf) in any 3D Zelda. I beat the Twilight Princess one in a minute. Zant would have been a cooler last boss.
The comet in Illusion of Gaia. I haven't played the game since I was a kid, but I very distinctly remember feeling disappointed.
Rage-Inducing:
Zophar in Lunar 2: EBC. Okay, let's get something straight game developers. I know that final battles in character-driven RPGs have to be emotional and epic and all. That does not mean you undermine hours of work I've put into all of my party and then take them away from me in the final battle for plot purposes. There was no reason for it! My party was right behind me! Why weren't they fighting with me? Why was I stuck with a useless mage who I couldn't even control? NOT COOL. I DO NOT APPROVE. :( :( :(