I just stumbled across the trailer for this game again that is due out in November, and couldn't help thinking that this game is going to be terrible.

As far as I can see, the MK franchise is simply being run into the ground now. The last few Mortal Kombat games seem to have been pretty below par on the gameplay front and seem to get progressively worse with all the new gimmicks (such as the "make your own fatalities" or the style switching system in combat) that they add. It seems as if they're just trying to ring the last few coins from the pockets of the die-hard fans that long for the good old days of the original Mortal Kombat and MK Trilogy.

The crossover with DC also seems very random and incredibly imbalanced with some of the superheroes or combatants. How is anyone supposed to beat superman unless they have their stash of kryptonite handy? Or how would anyone besides superman be able to hit the flash in the first place?

I personally have played all of the Mortal Kombat games except Deadly Alliance and Shaolin Monks, but I will definitely not be buying this.

So what do the rest of you think about the prospect of this game?

Anyone out there think this is going to be a good game and why?

Or does everyone think this is just going to be a total flop?

I cant see anything wrong with subzero beating up superman =D

The crossover with DC also seems very random and incredibly imbalanced with some of the superheroes or combatants. How is anyone supposed to beat superman unless they have their stash of kryptonite handy? Or how would anyone besides superman be able to hit the flash in the first place?

Apparently they explain this in the game. According to Ed Boon's segment on G4, they have done their best to explain every nuance-- why the DC characters are fighting the MK characters, why the superheroes can be hurt... they even have the DC heroes perform "Brutalities" instead of "Fatalities", since apparently they're not allowed to kill people.

It has some neat looking features-- they've done a lot of tweaking with the classing MK forumla. There are grapple encounters, "mid-air" fighting, and way more destructable/interactive environments. I also noticed during the demo at E3 that the characters show signs of damage as the fights progress... which I just think is cool.

I don't really like fighting games (unless they're SSBB or Guilty Gear), and the only MK game I've ever played was one for the SNES (I think). I do, however, appreciate all the work that is going into this title-- it sounds like a really strange crossover, but it appears that they're going beyond simply squishing two sets of characters into a typical "fighter" mold.

That said, since this is a fighting game and all, I probably won't buy it. I do, however, plan to rent.

I think they should have maybe done a different fighting game crossover. Maybe Mortal Kombat VS. Soul Caliber. That actually sounds like it could be fun.

But no, I don't think that MK VS. DC will really be all that great. Maybe a rental, at most. It just seems like it would be......unbalanced. Like, the only person who could possibly beat Superman would be Raiden, unless everyone has kryptonite gloves or something. But then they'd probably all get cancer from it, so Superman would win in the end.

Well after seeing the fantastic Street Fighter trailer this did look pretty dull.

It honestly doesn't seem like that bad of a game to me. Yeah, people are getting their boxers in a bunch over things like their personal favorite hero getting beat up, or rolling over with the impossibility of Superman getting killed in a Fatality. But won't blink an eye at suspending their disbelief when it comes to playing the same people dieing over and over in any Mortal Kombat game, or having to deal with a Ret-Con of any Marvel world or seeing yet another Alternate Universe?

I for one don't mind most of it (except the occasional Ret-Con) and think that as a fighting game, it'll be interesting to play. I won't buy, because I don't play my Wii as often as I could, and enjoy it more for the family games like Wii Sports (the only game that 'came with the system' I've played for more then a week) and Boom Blox (my parents have this bad habit of kicking my ass) then for games like Mario Kart (still don't own) or SSBB (I own, but rarely play it due to lack of people to play with, after I ran out of Single Player).

So yeah, since I'm not burdened with over attachment to any of the characters, and can feel relatively neutral about either side, I'll probably enjoy it more then some other people. Which is a shame, because this is the first MK game to grab my attention since Mortal Kombat 2 on the Game Gear.

EDIT: Although Mortal Kombat VS. Soul Caliber DOES sound really fun.

Yan-Yan:
Although Mortal Kombat VS. Soul Caliber DOES sound really fun.

Maybe they could develop both games. I'd like to kill Astaroth with Goro or something.

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Superman isn't going to be too imbalanced if he is imbalanced at all. They are going to find a way to put him at everyone's level, and Superman can be hurt by especially tough people. No need to worry there.

And you can't tell me that you don't want to see Mr. Freeze vs. Subzero. Please tell me I'm not the only one!

I think that if Mortal Kombat has to reach out to DC for a crossover in order to make a blockbuster release, then something has really gone wrong in that development department that takes care of things like plot and obvious mistakes.

im so on the fence here
i thought i was over mortal kombat i see it as a very inmature game for like 15 year old boys but if u ingore the mortal combat part and play it just as a dc fighting game thats kinda cool i guess

if i do play it ill learn batmans moves and just use him im not a big DC fan outside of the batman and gothom crowd of charcters

Ok, now my first thought was a mixture of disbelief and "What the Hell is that?", but I give you my solemn promise, as far as I can ascertain this game is going to come out, and it's going to be interesting.

Potentially, this game has an opportunity to return the MK games to their former glory. Back the day when there were two dee fighters all over the arcades, MK was a pioneer, implementing finishing moves and using pallet swapped characters as more than just clones (I'm looking at you Street Fighter 2). Somewhere around the third re release of the third game, people started getting suspicious that they were out of ideas, enter MK4 and all the problems that came along with it, stiff combat, bloated rosters and an overall loss of feel. Each game tried something new to keep people interested like the Konquest mode, but the magic seemed gone. In a blatant attempt to recapture said magic, they have offered us this. A crossover game based around two of modern fiction's darkest universes, DC and MK with a load of potential, as stated at the beginning of the paragraph.

The first thing that came to mind is that this game has got to have a roster of popular characters from both universes in order to work. Both franchises are more than capable of this, but I bet you ten dollars this is the first place it falls down. We have already heard four confirmed characters: Scorpion, Sub Zero, Batman and Superman. This, friends, is where my suspicions first arise. Who here remembers any good game ever that had Superman in it? Off the top of my head there was Justice League Task Force and that's about it. And even THAT wasn't very good. What this game needs is some cool DC characters that are not indestructible like Green Arrow or Rorschach or Morpheus the Dream King. While we're at it, let's get rid of Onaga and Blaze. Balance issues are going to be a big deal here, and there is no way Scorpion could beat Superman, ever.

Now I think it's fair to estimate that this story is going to be essentially fan-fiction. Let's be honest about it, it's a crossover. Now, here are some elements to be avoided:
1 anybody in the DC universe being chosen as Mortal Kombatants

2 Superman/Batman discovering a universal rip filled with the Mortal Kombatants

3 Time Travel

Those things will all lead to this game being the hokey crossover that so many think it's going to be.

The story needs to be solid enough to work with both universes. For example a much better starting point for a plot would be "The Black Dragon has infiltrated Gotham City". This simple one line synopsis gives us not only a plausible reason for Batman to get involved, but also adds Kano to the roster. You could probably say that Joker or Two Face or someone like that is PISSED that this has happened and are taking matters into their own hands. Sonya would be chasing the Black Dragon. Do you see what I'm doing here? I'm not throwing in characters I think it would be awesome to see fight, I'm looking around and making it plausible for the characters to be there. Maybe I should write some fan fiction...

Moving on, everybody is talking about the fatalities, or lack thereof. Now while I'd be hard pressed to say that MK was all about fatalities, they are directly responsible for a good portion of the fan base. Although, since MK3 the fatality system has kind of lost its magic. There were friendships, there were animalities, it was a little out of control. Then we come across MK:A where they introduced a Kreate-A-Fatality system where things just got stupid. Now I'm all for finishing moves, but let's think about this for a second. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, these people don't kill. They just don't. To make them do so would be a perversion of their character. It makes sense for them not to rip out someone's heart. This begs the obvious question, Why are they in Mortal Kombat then?

Regardless, i'm not giving up hope. This game still might be awesome.

Hell yes! Only because I really really can't wait to beat the fucking smile of Aquaman's face! No, stop! I really want to hurt him for being the worst superhero ever. Ripping out his spine will be the icing on the cake.

PurpleRain:
Hell yes! Only because I really really can't wait to beat the fucking smile of Aquaman's face! No, stop! I really want to hurt him for being the worst superhero ever. Ripping out his spine will be the icing on the cake.

Yea that would be a plus point I suppose, beating the hell out of some of the really terrible DC superheroes if they include them, like Plastic Man or Elongated Man.

I used to adore the original MK games; 1,2,3 etc. However, recently the games just seem incredibly worn out. I still play the first three when I have time, as they were classic games.
To be honest, the concept of this does interest me hugely. There's something about beating the living crap out of Superman with Sub Zero that I find an extremely attractive proposition. However, I'm fairly sure once the game is released it'll be incredibly poorly done. So much so, that the interesting concept won't be able to save it. I hope I'm wrong, as if it's done right - it could be awesome.

I think pitting street level martial artists against veritable gods is a little...unfair, even Batman is more dangerous, by default, than anyone in MK could ever hope to be, he's like one of them only with more extensive training, equipment they could never hope to afford, and a butler. Admittedly I've seen small children take out Aquaman, but they had powers, he could kill a martial artist no problem, assuming it isn't one of the martial artists who travel in the superhero circuits.

I like MK for its brutal fighting not the actually fighting mechanics. This crossover will kill the spine ripping of MK. I hate it.

I have always been an MK fan, unfortunately, MK VS DC looks like it's going to continue the MK trend of steadily getting worse and be a pile of shit.

pieeater911:
I think they should have maybe done a different fighting game crossover. Maybe Mortal Kombat VS. Soul Caliber. That actually sounds like it could be fun.

But no, I don't think that MK VS. DC will really be all that great. Maybe a rental, at most. It just seems like it would be......unbalanced. Like, the only person who could possibly beat Superman would be Raiden, unless everyone has kryptonite gloves or something. But then they'd probably all get cancer from it, so Superman would win in the end.

I don't think it's going to be unbalanced, I think Midway is going to solve the potential problem of unbalance by making everyone boring, broken and shit

This is why Superman wouldn't fit in the MK universe, remember Batman is one of the greatest martial artists in DC, and has almost no equal (but Captain America would still beat his ass if he wasn't prepared to fight Cap.)

Quite frankly I can't see it. The Capcom vs. fighting games were so good that I think there is almost no way that Midway can compete. Obviously to make up for the power differential they will need to power up the MK characters and tone down the DC characters (except for the weaker ones). But even after that, I can't see the results being very satisfying. I think that Capcom vs Tatsunoko (yeah, I never heard of them either) will probably show up on consoles just in time to mop up this mess.

I think they need to kill off the Mortal Kombat franchise as they have already destroyed any fond memories of it I might have had.

jim_doki:
enter MK4 and all the problems that came along with it, stiff combat, bloated rosters and an overall loss of feel.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

MK4 had a grand total of 15 characters selectable from the get-go, and Goro as a secret character. Ultimate MK3 has 23 characters, MK trilogy had 37 characters, so 15 is hardly bloated.

What I want to know is how it got a Teen rating, yet still contains EVERYTHING that gave it an M from the old games.

ElArabDeMagnifico:
What I want to know is how it got a Teen rating, yet still contains EVERYTHING that gave it an M from the old games.

It doesn't the fatalitys now suck.

shatnershaman:

ElArabDeMagnifico:
What I want to know is how it got a Teen rating, yet still contains EVERYTHING that gave it an M from the old games.

It doesn't the fatalitys now suck.

What I heard is that the MK side has "fatalities" which are nice and gory, and the DC side has "Brutalities" which aren't gory, but are still brutal simply because of what the guy is doing to the character (like twisting their elbow in the direction that it shouldn't be facing, things like that).

ElArabDeMagnifico:

shatnershaman:

ElArabDeMagnifico:
What I want to know is how it got a Teen rating, yet still contains EVERYTHING that gave it an M from the old games.

It doesn't the fatalitys now suck.

What I heard is that the MK side has "fatalities" which are nice and gory, and the DC side has "Brutalities" which aren't gory, but are still brutal simply because of what the guy is doing to the character (like twisting their elbow in the direction that it shouldn't be facing, things like that).

Those fatalitys are still calmer because of the T

This looks bad, is bad, I shouldn't get it. But it's Mortal Kombat, I can't break a streak no matter how bad it looks.

shatnershaman:

ElArabDeMagnifico:

shatnershaman:

ElArabDeMagnifico:
What I want to know is how it got a Teen rating, yet still contains EVERYTHING that gave it an M from the old games.

It doesn't the fatalitys now suck.

What I heard is that the MK side has "fatalities" which are nice and gory, and the DC side has "Brutalities" which aren't gory, but are still brutal simply because of what the guy is doing to the character (like twisting their elbow in the direction that it shouldn't be facing, things like that).

Those fatalitys are still calmer because of the T

Yeah from what I saw on Gamespot.com The game didnt seems to have any blood flying all over the place like in past Mortal Kombats. They also showed a fatality and brutality and it was very tame this time around.

I think I'll wait for this to pan out before I make any decisions, as right now it seems more like a bad idea that festered. Like Boss battles in Guitar Hero III.

In the meantime I'll stick with Soul Calibur IV and Tekken 6.