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Paperboy
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First, The Movie.
There's not a whole lot of information floating around but am I the only one who will be really disappointed with the movie if it follows the storyline of Bioshock? I've played Bioshock and one of the reasons I love it was because I was involved. I personally think that it should be the prequel to the game, Bioshock was set in one of the most original places I have ever played in a video game.
I would've played the game if it were just exploring Rapture before it became a run down splicer infested hole. I honestly think that there is potential for a great movie in Pre-Bioshock Rapture.
Second, Bioshock 2. Just like the movie the only place left to go is prequel but I think it should differ from the film in a few ways.
I think that Bioshock 2 should go to when rapture was built and it was (I'm assuming) a paradise, then cut out short of the actual fall out of rapture. I'm aware that this game would take out a great deal of the atmosphere of Bioshock but it would provide great exposition, of which I am a fan.
Then Bioshock 3 should cover the complete fall out of Rapture ending where Bioshock started. I honestly think that is the best way to keep the Bioshock games going. If anyone else thinks any different I would love to hear you're suggestions... then tell you you're wrong

Copy Clerk
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I didn't like Bioshock. But I know most of the story, and I think the movie would be perfectly fine if it followed the game's story.

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Personally, I think that you need to keep the flavor of the game consistant throughout the sequals. Ya' know, so you get what you were expecting to get? A different way to do what you're describing is easy. Just have the movie cover the pre-Bioshock stuff. We already know that slicers escape from Rapture, so perhaps you try to follow them, and get stuck somewhere spooky?

Paperboy
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Id prefer a pre Bioshock movie and then just leave it at that, leaving the original, effectively untouched.

Gone Gonzo
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Pre-Bioshock would be great..

Gone Gonzo
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The movie will fail for the same reason many video game movies such as doom and resident evil. A key factor that pushes resident evil and bioshock and doom is that you want to keep playing to find the story for yourself, and I just don't think that will translate when someone else is doing it.

Beat Writer
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itsoutthere:

I honestly think that there is potential for a great movie in Pre-Bioshock Rapture.

Movies based on video games universally suck. No exceptions.

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Daemon888:

itsoutthere:

I honestly think that there is potential for a great movie in Pre-Bioshock Rapture.

Movies based on video games universally suck. No exceptions.

Yes, but even though they suck, they can be priceless gems. See: Doom. "Semper-fi, mother fucker."

I personally have high hopes for the Bioshock movie. A story of Rapture before and as it falls would simply be awesome.

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Gone Gonzo
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TheNecroswanson:

Daemon888:

itsoutthere:

I honestly think that there is potential for a great movie in Pre-Bioshock Rapture.

Movies based on video games universally suck. No exceptions.

Yes, but even though they suck, they can be priceless gems. See: Doom. "Semper-fi, mother fucker."

I personally have high hopes for the Bioshock movie. A story of Rapture before and as it falls would simply be awesome.

Actually most of the video game movie adaptions suck because well theres very little story. So they have the lee-way to change stuff around.

Bioshock on the other hand cannot change stuff around because the storys tight. And if bioshock the movie sucks people will die..

Gone Gonzo
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I bet you the Bioshock movie throws in some stupid blonde chick the hero "John" Will have to save or some bullshit like that.

Infamous Scribbler
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Gore Verbinski, the director of the Pirates of the Carribean, is behind the bioshock movie so dont expect much. Those films are baaaad.

Infamous Scribbler
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Silent Hill was pretty good, and the previews for Max Payne look awesome!

Gone Gonzo
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I'm happy with my copy of Bioshock (technically my friends, but hey), so I frankly don't care how the movie turns out. That said, if they muck it up, I'll finally have some use for that stockpile of fire-bombs and tear-gas I have lying around...

Copy Clerk
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I'm going to put money on BIOSHOCK 2 not sucking!
hows them apples!

coudn't care about the movie to be honest!

Gone Gonzo
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How about we have a videogame that doesn't become part of some corporate franchising exercise? Anyone?

Gone Gonzo
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For the film at least, a prequel is most likely - there is already a lot of background information to work with, and a lot of room to expand upon that info, which is a good starting place for any film. I would say that the main issue is not to produce a brilliant plot, as the plot is already there - Atlas vs Ryan, fall of Rapture, all the info is there really, but what the main challenge would be is keeping the atmosphere of Rapture, which was presented excellently in the game.

Bioshock 2 has a lot of limitations to work around - it cannot really be set in the glory days of Rapture as that was a paradise, so there's no real incentive to do anything, except perhaps smuggle contraband in and out under Fontaine's command. It could be set during the fall of Rapture, but again, the plot would not be anything we did not already know.

People seem to be avoiding the concept of an actual sequel - Rapture has been a hellhole for a long time before Bioshock, so Bioshock 2 could quite easily still have Rapture as the main setting, perhaps one where the protaganist from the first is attempting to rebuild and re-establish Ryan's dream. Either that, or it could show Ryan's nightmare of the surface and Rapture becoming mingled; In the 'evil ending'

so a world in which splicers are ravaging the world is not impossible - so Bioshock 2 could be set in a future, more urban area, which could also provide incentive for more of a survival mechanic - if you do not start off with plasmids, you are immediately at a disadvantage to those that are up to their eyeballs in the stuff.

So whilst a prequel film is very likely, I do not feel a prequel game is - it would just be too limiting.

Infamous Scribbler
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Has it definatley been confirmed as a Bioshock sequel and not just another Shock game?

Paperboy
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Bulletinmybrain:
[quote=TheNecroswanson]

Actually most of the video game movie adaptions suck because well theres very little story. So they have the lee-way to change stuff around.

Bioshock on the other hand cannot change stuff around because the storys tight. And if bioshock the movie sucks people will die..

Actually most video game/movie adaptations fail because that geordie prat Paul WS Anderson or that irritating german Uwe Bol get near them. If they picked a good director some of them may come out ok.

Copy Clerk
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I like the idea of the Pre-Bioshock
But i think you should play as Fontaine (or someone close to him) leading up to events of Bioshock
Preferbly including the new years eve riots

Copy Clerk
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the bioshock movie will probably some overpriced cash cow that will follow the story scene for scene, but the bioshock sequel has alot of potential. i mean, the first game youre stuck in an underwater city. but, the sequel could take place in a much more open world.

Anonymous Source
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as long as it has real NPC interaction and not just mindless enemies to butcher. That was seriously lacking in Bioshock.

Gone Gonzo
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I heard somewhere that the movie is supposed to coincide with Bioshock 3, but that seems like 2k is getting a little ahead of themselves

Anonymous Source
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i'd like the second one to be set in the civil war of rapture between fontaine and ryan and i know it may sound a bit cheesy but being able to choose your side. i mean like being one of fontaines goons and raiding one of the ryan co. warehouses or being a soldier of ryan and like being able to ambush a goup of fontaines men. personally i think it'd break up the linearity that the original bioshock had going for it. though i didnt really see it as a bad thing. its like a game that wants to be open world but just cant make that last push.

Paperboy
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The movie is going to follow on before or after Bioshock 3, I think.

Copy Clerk
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I think the Bioshock movie would have to do a prequel, so that the sequel is left up to Bioshock 2. I think the hardest thing for them to do will be to keep the same atmosphere that the first Bioshock had. Everything was so creepy and yet artistic at the same time. I don't know what to think of the movie. It's impossible to capture everything that the game had, like the choices of whether to let the Little Sisters live or not. A movie set in the same time could work, and it would be cool to see Jack going toe-to-toe with a Big Daddy in real time, but everything would have to be cut drastically short to allot to the max 3 hours that most movies run.

I'm starting to think the sequel game should be something like Fallout 3, an open-world adventure that takes place as Rapture is crumbling. That would be quite interesting; I'd definitely buy that. Just my thoughts.

Kyouger.

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Personally I think that Bioshock doesn't need a movie, because they'll just find a way to mess it up, like they do with ALL video-game based movies. And second, I really don't know where they could go with the sequel.

Gone Gonzo
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BioShock could be really interesting movie in that the story behind it is deeper and more interesting than the vast majority of them these days. I only worry that they have insufficient budget to pull off the amount of effects that movie would need.

As for BioShock 2, I agree that a prequel would be interesting. There has been quite a bit of rumors floating around along those lines, but I'm not sure if there was any official confirmation yet.

Gone Gonzo
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pieeater911:
Personally I think that Bioshock doesn't need a movie, because they'll just find a way to mess it up, like they do with ALL video-game based movies. And second, I really don't know where they could go with the sequel.

How are they going to mess it up, or didn't you hear

Gore-motherfucking-Vidal is directing this thing

Paperboy
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CountryMike:
as long as it has real NPC interaction and not just mindless enemies to butcher. That was seriously lacking in Bioshock.

the thing you are missing about Bioshock, is that it wasnt about the other characters, it was about YOU, the protaganist.

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Spartan Bannana:

pieeater911:
Personally I think that Bioshock doesn't need a movie, because they'll just find a way to mess it up, like they do with ALL video-game based movies. And second, I really don't know where they could go with the sequel.

How are they going to mess it up, or didn't you hear

Gore-motherfucking-Vidal is directing this thing

Oh.....Well, that gives me a little bit more hope for it.

But not much.

Gone Gonzo
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Cpt. Sarcastic:
the thing you are missing about Bioshock, is that it wasnt about the other characters, it was about YOU, the protaganist.

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It could happen.

Gone Gonzo
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pieeater911:

Spartan Bannana:

pieeater911:
Personally I think that Bioshock doesn't need a movie, because they'll just find a way to mess it up, like they do with ALL video-game based movies. And second, I really don't know where they could go with the sequel.

How are they going to mess it up, or didn't you hear

Gore-motherfucking-Vidal is directing this thing

[quote]Oh.....Well, that gives me a little bit more hope for it

But not much.

Hey at least it's not Uwe Boll

EDIT: Correction it is Gore Verbinski who will be directing the movie, he did the first pirates of the Caribbean i.e the good one and several other stellar movies

Beat Writer
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By the sound of things, if this director screws up, there will be an 'Atlas Shrugged" style revolution. Ain't that ironic...

Gone Gonzo
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You couldn't do a pre-Bioshock game. What would you do? The game is perfect the way it is. I don't want it to suffer from "George Lucas Syndrom" and have a sucky prequel. As for the movie, I don't think you could do much with that either. It's not really movie material. The choices in it are too personal. The game has two endings for a reason.

-Rad.

Gone Gonzo
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Imperator_2:
By the sound of things, if this director screws up, there will be an 'Atlas Shrugged" style revolution. Ain't that ironic...

That is the fucking definition of irony mate.

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