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Landslide
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Okay. So, I know there's some, uh... Conflicting emotions regarding Beth's upcoming release. A friend just recommended I check out some of the recent footage. Now, I am, and always will be a fan of the originals. The new one looks completely different. I have to admit, however, that I'm totally stoked for it. It looks unfathomably incredible.

I'm curious to see if opinions have settled since a couple months ago.. Anyone?

Specialist1924
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Well, I'm an Elder Scrolls fan who's never played the original Fallout games, so I'm really looking forward to it.

mjhhiv
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I love Fallout and Fallout 2 (hell, I even love Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel), but this just won't be a great Fallout game. It will, however, be a great game. I'll be buying it.

Jumplion
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I can wait for the Teddy Cannon and the Bloody Merry perks.

Blood for all!!

shatnershaman
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No offense to all the Fallout fans but.

Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: Its one of the best games ever made for the PC!
Me: Nope never heard of it.
FGIK: You must buy this and play it it has a PORTABLE NUKE.
Me: Cool who's making it?
FGIK:Bethesda
Me:Oblivion with guns?! Woo-hoo!
FGIK:Thats not the point of the game-
Me:Sweet I'm so pre ordering Oblivion with guns
FGIK:...

The Potato Lord
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When i first heard of it I thought it might suffer from hit percentages like morrowind did, but it looks like it plays similarily to mass effect where your stats affect your general accuracy rather than having hit percentages. Anyway I've never played the earlier fallout games so I'm excited.

Aries_Split
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shatnershaman:
No offense to all the Fallout fans but.

Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: Its one of the best games ever made for the PC!
Me: Nope never heard of it.
FGIK: You must buy this and play it it has a PORTABLE NUKE.
Me: Cool who's making it?
FGIK:Bethesda
Me:Oblivion with guns?! Woo-hoo!
FGIK:Thats not the point of the game-
Me:Sweet I'm so pre ordering Oblivion with guns
FGIK:...

Believe us, we hate when that happens, because the next day

You:This oblivion with guns sucks.
FGIK:*Kills You*

nilcypher
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I too am excited for Fallout 3. I came to the Fallout party fairly late, not being much of a PC gamer back when the original games were released, but managed to grab them on a compilation I discovered while browsing the titles at my local GAME store.

Funnily enough, I've going to echo the first post I ever made at the Escapist and say that, while I enjoyed Oblivion, I hope Bethesda have ironed out some of its more glaring flaws. From what I've read though, it seems that they have.

Squarewave
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shatnershaman:
No offense to all the Fallout fans but.

Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: Its one of the best games ever made for the PC!
Me: Nope never heard of it.
FGIK: You must buy this and play it it has a PORTABLE NUKE.
Me: Cool who's making it?
FGIK:Bethesda
Me:Oblivion with guns?! Woo-hoo!
FGIK:Thats not the point of the game-
Me:Sweet I'm so pre ordering Oblivion with guns
FGIK:...

You just know the game will get a 90+ metascore, sell millions within a few months. Yet fallout fans will be bitching on the forms for years about how the game is horrible and dumbed down much the way they complain about oblivion

shatnershaman
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Aries_Split:

Believe us, we hate when that happens, because the next day

You:This oblivion with guns sucks.
FGIK:*Kills You*

I did like Oblivion what could be wrong with adding guns and explosions?
P.S I'm worried about the pause attacks and lack of NPCS so I'm only renting.

mjhhiv
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shatnershaman:
No offense to all the Fallout fans but.

Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: Its one of the best games ever made for the PC!
Me: Nope never heard of it.
FGIK: You must buy this and play it it has a PORTABLE NUKE.
Me: Cool who's making it?
FGIK:Bethesda
Me:Oblivion with guns?! Woo-hoo!
FGIK:Thats not the point of the game-
Me:Sweet I'm so pre ordering Oblivion with guns
FGIK:...

Grrrr.... That's the only thing I'm really worried about with Fallout 3. All of these "non-fallout" gamers that want to play Oblivion with guns will try out the original Fallout games, to see if they like them as much as they liked the third. This type of player probably won't, and will say that the original games were awful.

I mean, I kind of liked Oblivion as well, but I *really* don't want an Oblivion with guns. I want Fallout.

HSIAMetalKing
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I'm actually just now playing the original Fallout, what with all the attention Fallout 3 is getting.

I'm not sure what to think about it yet. It's one of those games that probably would have blown my mind if I'd played it a few years ago.

Indigo_Dingo
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I'm not sure, but I think that because of the banning, every single Australian gamer will import a copy of this. So that'll help sales

TheNecroswanson
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Hey, I've downloaded mods to have Oblivion with guns, and rocket launchers, and plasma riffles, and fuel rod cannons, and Pyramid Head. So, I don't know if Fallout could be anything like that.... Anyway, I'll admit I have yet to play a Fallout, maybe I'll jump on the band wagon with this upcomming title.

User was banned for: The hypocrisy is KILLING me.. (Permanent)
Aries_Split
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This game is straying pretty far from the original fallout, I reccomend everyone playing fallout 2 before fallout 3, as if you don't it will be like playing morrowind after you played oblivion.

Spleeni
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I will slowly torture all members of Bethesda if my baby isn't PERFECT. And by perfect I mean fun.

J'aen
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I want Fallout 3 so bad. I don't usually get games when they first come out, I wait for the price to come down. In this case I may just make an exception.

VVL
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I am by and large a huge fan of the original Fallouts, and contrary to the nerdcore idiots who rampage around some of my previously favored gaming discussion spots, I do believe that we can trust Bethesda on this one. They realize their mistakes with Oblivion, which they are trying very hard to fix, they all love the originals, which ensures the game its sense of humor, and, lastly, the biggest complaint from early previewers is that it TRIES TOO HARD to be like the originals and doesn't capitalize on the "Oblivion with Guns" aspect. Personally, I don't see where Bethesda is going wrong with this.

PurpleRain
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shatnershaman:
No offense to all the Fallout fans but.

Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: Its one of the best games ever made for the PC!
Me: Nope never heard of it.
FGIK: You must buy this and play it it has a PORTABLE NUKE.
Me: Cool who's making it?
FGIK:Bethesda
Me:Oblivion with guns?! Woo-hoo!
FGIK:Thats not the point of the game-
Me:Sweet I'm so pre ordering Oblivion with guns
FGIK:...

Don't you mean:
Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: (Kills you)

I'm sitting on the sidelines with this one. I love Fallout and I want to love this, but knowing Bethesda's past games, they don't seem up to it. With that siad I'm still going to buy it and critisise and rant about everyone you can't kill. Seriously. Wayda kill the funs guys!

Bulletinmybrain
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PurpleRain:

shatnershaman:
No offense to all the Fallout fans but.

Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: Its one of the best games ever made for the PC!
Me: Nope never heard of it.
FGIK: You must buy this and play it it has a PORTABLE NUKE.
Me: Cool who's making it?
FGIK:Bethesda
Me:Oblivion with guns?! Woo-hoo!
FGIK:Thats not the point of the game-
Me:Sweet I'm so pre ordering Oblivion with guns
FGIK:...

Don't you mean:
Fallout guy I know: OMG there making FALLOUT 3!
Me: What's Fallout?
FGIK: (Kills you)

I'm sitting on the sidelines with this one. I love Fallout and I want to love this, but knowing Bethesda's past games, they don't seem up to it. With that siad I'm still going to buy it and critisise and rant about everyone you can't kill. Seriously. Wayda kill the funs guys!

Yeah I don't think the worlds as child-killing happy as you.

VVL
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I most certainly am. I liked the Morrowind system where if you killed a main-story character before you finished that part of the game, it gives you a message saying "You f***ed up. If you don't have a save within an hour, it's time for you to scream." much better than Oblivion guys getting knocked out when I slice them open from head to toe.

Bulletinmybrain
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VVL:
I most certainly am. I liked the Morrowind system where if you killed a main-story character before you finished that part of the game, it gives you a message saying "You f***ed up. If you don't have a save within an hour, it's time for you to scream." much better than Oblivion guys getting knocked out when I slice them open from head to toe.

Omg.. You just brought back the memory's. 30 side quests with auto-save on. kill main person by accident.. Last save..Two days ago and over 30 side quests I would have to do again,

VVL
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Bulletinmybrain:

VVL:
I most certainly am. I liked the Morrowind system where if you killed a main-story character before you finished that part of the game, it gives you a message saying "You f***ed up. If you don't have a save within an hour, it's time for you to scream." much better than Oblivion guys getting knocked out when I slice them open from head to toe.

Omg.. You just brought back the memory's. 30 side quests with auto-save on. kill main person by accident.. Last save..Two days ago and over 30 side quests I would have to do again,

Exactly. Glad I could bring the memories back.

J'aen
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And you people think that was a better system than in Oblivion? Are you all masochists?

VVL
Paperboy
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Well, it's a hell of a lot more realistic.

Bulletinmybrain
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J'aen:
And you people think that was a better system than in Oblivion? Are you all masochists?

Yes I did it was more realistic and made me think I was actually apart of the world. Wanna kill Mr. V go right ahead and try if you kill him you kill him.(I did I got sunder early.)Plus I really like how gritty it was like that middle zone(can't remember what it was called) actually felt like hell and a battlefield. Morrowind was just better overall in my opinion then oblivion. Oblivion was just the same stuff..Over..Over...Repeat until maps filled with that.

shatnershaman
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Bulletinmybrain:

Yes I did it was more realistic and made me think I was actually apart of the world. Wanna kill Mr. V go right ahead and try if you kill him you kill him.(I did I got sunder early.)Plus I really like how gritty it was like that middle zone(can't remember what it was called) actually felt like hell and a battlefield. Morrowind was just better overall in my opinion then oblivion. Oblivion was just the same stuff..Over..Over...Repeat until maps filled with that.

Your talking about realism in a game with magic.

VVL
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shatnershaman:

Bulletinmybrain:

Yes I did it was more realistic and made me think I was actually apart of the world. Wanna kill Mr. V go right ahead and try if you kill him you kill him.(I did I got sunder early.)Plus I really like how gritty it was like that middle zone(can't remember what it was called) actually felt like hell and a battlefield. Morrowind was just better overall in my opinion then oblivion. Oblivion was just the same stuff..Over..Over...Repeat until maps filled with that.

Your talking about realism in a game with magic.

I'm talking about mortality. Every fantasy game has magic in some form or another. Tell me, please, what is your favorite game that likes to brag about its realism. Please.

shatnershaman
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VVL:

I'm talking about mortality. Every fantasy game has magic in some form or another. Tell me, please, what is your favorite game that likes to brag about its realism. Please.

Well Halo obviously is some made up bullshit.
AA,and Socom are good realistic games.

Bulletinmybrain
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shatnershaman:

Bulletinmybrain:

Yes I did it was more realistic and made me think I was actually apart of the world. Wanna kill Mr. V go right ahead and try if you kill him you kill him.(I did I got sunder early.)Plus I really like how gritty it was like that middle zone(can't remember what it was called) actually felt like hell and a battlefield. Morrowind was just better overall in my opinion then oblivion. Oblivion was just the same stuff..Over..Over...Repeat until maps filled with that.

Your talking about realism in a game with magic.

And your some guy that creeps me out by how much you devote your life to halo.

Bulletinmybrain
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shatnershaman:

VVL:

I'm talking about mortality. Every fantasy game has magic in some form or another. Tell me, please, what is your favorite game that likes to brag about its realism. Please.

Well Halo obviously is some made up bullshit.
AA,and Socom are good realistic games.

MORROWIND IS SOME MADE UP BULLSHIT. But hey at least its realistic made up bullshit if you don't count magic.

J'aen
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Why can't a game with magic have realism? Mass Effect has psychic powers, but the stuff in the Codex is often pretty realistic.

shatnershaman
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Bulletinmybrain:

MORROWIND IS SOME MADE UP BULLSHIT. But hey at least its realistic made up bullshit if you don't count magic.

And you don't count the lack of voice acting,stiff animation (the running especially) the way weapons break down,lockpicking,the stars affecting your stats etc,etc

VVL
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Ah, but see, it was implemented well. And try using mods next time. Morrowind+mods is so much better than Oblivion that it's not funny.

Bulletinmybrain
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shatnershaman:

Bulletinmybrain:

MORROWIND IS SOME MADE UP BULLSHIT. But hey at least its realistic made up bullshit if you don't count magic.

And you don't count the lack of voice acting,stiff animation (the running especially) the way weapons break down,lockpicking,the stars affecting your stats etc,etc

And even if they did have voice acting it would be just bland like oblivions. Seriously sometimes voice acting can ruin games. Like if your character talked in KOTOR.

Stiff animation the games what 6 years old. Old games seriously should not be compared on animation to todays standards.

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