Halo has always perplexed me, mediocre shooter, not much skill involved, and a pile of whiny immature 12 year olds that make the whole multiplayer experience unbearable. Someone explain the appeal.

JiggMaster:
Halo has always perplexed me, mediocre shooter, not much skill involved, and a pile of whiny immature 12 year olds that make the whole multiplayer experience unbearable. Someone explain the appeal.

For some reason, people always claim that everyone on Halo 3 on Live is a whiny child. I can't say I've ever encountered a whiny child on Halo, yet on COD4 there was one kid that kept saying 'Johnny' to me for no reason, then cooking a grenade and standing next to me.

I'm not really seeing the relevance of the amount of skill needed to play. If you feel it is incredibly unbalanced, after a bit of practise you'll have no difficulty. If you say it takes no skill, then congratulations. You are good at shooters. Skill is relative for each person, so for me at least, it isn't a useful yardstick.

Frybird:
Actually i'd say "Halo 3 is okay, but easy to hate since it's hilariously overrated (it is, no matter how good you actually consider it, it is not as good as the first reviews praised it to be) and attracts stupid, loud, foulmouthed kids in multiplayer"

Hit the nail on the head. The biggest down side to all the Halo games, are the people that play them. They are always the first ones to scream that Halo is the greatest game ever made when in fact each Halo game has been remarkably unremarkable. They're not bad games, but they really didn't revolutionize FPSs like everyone claims, they are simply par for the course.

Halo's got some excellent multiplayer, but only a passable campaign.

IM A WILD PARTY:
Halo's got some excellent multiplayer, but only a passable campaign.

Agree, the campaing mode have some great moments but too irregular. Is far away from perfection, but I found it really entertaining. That's the reason why you get a game.

I don't mind Halo, I don't even mind Halo nutjobs (obsessives fanboys), hell we all have our fav games we'd fight a war over on the internet. But I don't get the hype, it's "ok". I've played better multi player (not going to beat battlefield 2 anytime soon), and I've played FAR better single player (HL2 + E1+2). I don't really understand why people are so aggressively obsessed with the Halo series, ridiculing and insulting anyone who disagrees.

Oh, and if anyone uses the "matchmaking" argument... Who cares? Is it THAT much effort to find a server yourself? Christ, how lazy have people become that they refer to a tiny convenience as a massive feature of the game. Not to mention a lot of games out there have a sort of "quick match" type option. I'm more than content to find a server in a great game than let an average game find one for me in all honesty, it's just about that extra effort.

yeah, i think that that is a pretty good analysis. and you also have to take into account that there are PS3 fanboys on forums who hate halo just because it's the xbox's flagship game.

Why is everyone calling Halo's campaign average? The only complaint I have about it is that it was slightly too short..

Also, addressing the supposed 'Halo 3 vs CoD4 war', where CoD players say that "you shouldn't be able to jump 20 feet into the air" and "killing people takes no skill", most CoD players don't understand that Halo 3 is a science-fiction shooter where every character is a nine foot tall beast of a man wearing robotic armor. Taken in context, Halo 3 is more realistic than CoD4.

I think the campaign modes of Halo 3 and CoD are close in quality, but CoDs is just a little bit better.

Of course, just try to play campaign with three of your friends at the same time in Cod4, and you'll see the weaknesses.

A few months ago, seven friends and myself attempted to link two Xbox 360s to each other to play together, as we sometimes do. In the past, it was always Halo 2 (which was horribly broken), and more recently, Halo 3. We attempted CoD4 for a change. Setting up the game was a nightmare, we ended up playing 2v2/2v2 on each Xbox. Those who hadn't played before couldn't figure out how they were dying while behind cover, until someone more veteran to the game explained that you can shoot through walls. Another interesting tidbit was the fact that the most loved weapon was a fully automatic sniper rifle that fires its clip in about a second.

Everyone who complains about the bad community in Halo 3 seems to forget that any player can be muted pretty much instantaneously, even though I don't ever seem to be running into these people.

And you CAN choose who you want to play against in matchmaking. You can prefer people of similar skill, only those with good connections, those with your same language, or just whoever you can join the fastest. This feature isn't very obviously labeled, but it's there. Press X before you begin matchmaking, I believe.

Multiplayer is constantly kept fresh by the new gametypes Bungie adds on most holidays, and on some random weekends. (Zombie-themed on halloween, games with lots of explosions on the fourth of July, Grifball, etc.). New maps are released on occasion, but in my opinion there are plenty to keep gameplay fresh. Players who exploit bugs are annoying, but very rare, and if encountered, you can choose to never play with them again. Making up a new gametype and sharing it with your friends is fun, we have a favorite where one player is the Juggernaut, with the ability to fly around the map invisibly, but isn't too strong, or one where only semi-automatic weapons are allowed, and you die with one shot, or king of the hill with a stationary hill, and only one weapon allowed at a time.. I can go on.

I only visit the escapist once a week to watch Zero Punctuation, but seeing this topic pop up once again just drew me to post.

I'm off to lunch. :D

I agree with K Sarty and JiggMaster on thier respective points that Halo (I'm talking about only halo 3) multiplayer doesnt take any skill to win. I however find a problem with that because although it has trueskill, I like CoD4's ranking better. in there, it is the great equalizer, you can play with lvl 4's and tenth-prestiges alike and the experience is a lot more balanced than halo 3's. Sure there's the occasional noob-tube here and there, but what I hate about halo is how casual it is. It's marketed to hardcore shooter fans, but I cant stand knowing that after 15 straight years of hardcore gaming (I started on the NES too, so I know my roots), I am still getting owned by some loser who just smoked a lot of pot or drank a lot and then after getting killed by:
-Rockets
-Sword
-Sp'laser
-Rockets (again)
-Guardians (but it counts as the enemies' kill)
I just cant take any more "gay-lo". I started a whole thread about how I love having FUN in games, and even the marketing in halo 3 is aimed at losers drinking beer and official halo soda and whoring the rockets. I don't know if I'm missing some core experience that everyone who likes halo sees, but I dont find anything about halo 3 fun. the only redeeming quality of halo is its forge and custom games but its friends only so there are no big games and I have to COMPLETELY change the game and I realized it had to be as close as possible to CoD4 or GoW before I had fun.

dont get me wrong, I WANT TO LOVE HALO. BUT EVERY TIME I WANT TO HAVE FUN IN IT SOMEONE GRIEFS ME OR THE GAME ARBITRARILY KILLS ME SO I GAVE UP ON IT. I honestly tried, but unless you all volunteer to play with me and help me out Im not going to play it again. P.S. the whole disappiontment thing hit close to home with me because I decided I didnt like the game after renting it but I kept it a day too long and blockbuster charged me full price plus rental fee plus late fee or watever so i paid way more that i should have for an un-special copy that was used and I didnt even want it so thats also got a lot to do with why I hate it.

P.S. My little brother is the kind of person whom everyone hates when playing halo 3. all of his friends are halo 3 jerks and any game where my brother can snipe me consistently from across the map w/o screenlooking is automatic crap because I can beat him at ANY other game on the 360 but halo 3 steals my soul and makes me lose. Dont worry, I dont begrudge anyone else for liking halo 3 so please dont flame me.

Attention: "Halo physics = 100% fail in comparison to a quality modern day engine"
that is all.

I always said to everyone who complains that the multiplayer is just "Xbox Live". Get a few friends, 2 Tv's, 2 xbox and play a Lan Game. Maybe you will finally enjoy a good multiplayer experience. Maybe you will feel the Goldeneye feeling.

I remarked that alot of people here hate's mainstream games. Halo introduced online shooters to a new generation. (If you're a kid, you probably don't know the 90s).

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missing the point never looked so poorly represented.

This thread does prove the OP's point, however.

For all the talk of slavering hordes of Halo Fanboys, the only single-minded force i see banded here are the halo dislikers. there are Halo Fans, but not in the numbers of the Halo haters.

I assume the hordes are all to busy playing Halo to perform the horrible deeds we decry them for daily.

But they must do it right? otherwise we wouldn't know they do!

Your sarcasm sense is tingling.

I agree with Ultra Joe. The entire second page thus far has been a perfect example of the OP's point. I'm sorry your thread was hijacked, stubee, but at least they proved you right.

I will be the last bastion of hope in this thread... the proverbial un-sung "Master Chief" hero.

I Love Halo.

I do not feel in any way, shape or form, the game to be Over rated.

I am not a casual gamer. Casual gamers do not play the library I own, nor do they spend $1300 on home built PCs to play Crysis. I have firm grasp on what makes a game great, play across all platforms, and have played MANY first person shooters in my day.

Halo is easily one of my top franchises. I recently sold my Xbox360 because everything I wanted for the system would be on PC (mainly to get a new DS and pay off many PC titles), but I will get Halo 3 for PC when it is released.

I love Halo.

I see all this "It's overrated" or "It's for casuals"... because that's ALL you choose to see. Get into a real clan that actually practices skill and technique. There is a lot more to the game than ZOMG ASPLOSIONS NEWB T-BAG!

Further more, Bungie is actually one of the best game developers based on their products and support they give out. Competitions, new maps, feedback, and more. They are on the levels of Blizzard and Valve in caring for their customers and many people fail to realize or gloss of this fact.

To date, Bungie has had THE BEST console match making system. They encourage others to steal their idea. They are the Blizzard of console FPS. They may not be original in their ideas, but the stream line them and polish them to a brilliance. No one takes pot shot at Blizzards (except emo Diablo fans, but that's a different story already covered else where) methodology of this, why attack Bungie?

I will be there Day one to buy Halo 3 for PC. I will still love it just as much and may even use the 360 pad I kept to use with my PC!

From a really big Halo fan who isn't just a "Console tard who pressez duh buttonz to make the mans fall down", please, we all get it. You don't like it. Let us enjoy our game.

I approve of at least the beginning of this Halo thread. It degenerated very quickly, sadly.

PS: I bought Legendary and enjoyed the Mt. Dew. I'm in no way a frat boy or a smelly man child freak or 12. :D

Eh I made the mistake of getting hyped up for it, and I went to the midnight release.. And was of course let down. But I don't think it's terrible. It's just average.
What really surprised me was, unlike most people.. I thought halo 2 was an improvement over the original. If for no other the reason, it was the first real good XBL game. It set a standard, and I think it deserves cred for that. I wasted many hours playing that damn game.

As far as people hating it.. It all roots back to what you guys have said. The popularity. The bigger things are, the more prone people are to hate it and openly bash it. And halo has a lot going to make it popular.

Agreeing with most that's been said. I think part of the reason most people were wowed at the Forge and Replay features in Halo 3, was that I guess that's the first time it was mainstreamed on a CONSOLE. (I know it was in Timesplitters, give it a rest.).

I was like big deal because I grew up a PC gamer and was used to features like that, but I guess you have to look at it from perspective.

To TheKbob:I can wholeheartedly understand where your coming from, but it kind of irks me when you say that they polished the features. Not EXACTLY. It appeared polished by console standards, but it's not exactly a huge improvement on PC Online Matchmaking is it?

Aries_Split:
Agreeing with most that's been said. I think part of the reason most people were wowed at the Forge and Replay features in Halo 3, was that I guess that's the first time it was mainstreamed on a CONSOLE. (I know it was in Timesplitters, give it a rest.).

I was like big deal because I grew up a PC gamer and was used to features like that, but I guess you have to look at it from perspective.

I know in PC gaming, we can use programs like FRAPs and the such and have replays... but I don't remember a game with quite the depth of the replay system in Halo. Being able to move to any player, move the camera anywhere, record at specific moments and none of it slowing down the game by using engine data. I know RTS games and maybe UT games have had replays, but the level of detail and ease of use in the Halo Theater system is really what makes it shine.

Like I said, it may not be new, but A La Blizzard style, it's def. one of the best.

Aries, when most PC matchmaking consists of "Choose Server"... and some search functions, yes, I really do love Xbox Live matchmaking and Halo 3's the best. Coming from a PC gamer: I love Halo's matchmaking. You might have some more freedom on the PC, but with that freedom comes a ton more headaches.

And what's wrong with extremely polished by console standards? What's wrong with doing it the best on the console. It's not necessarily something to be viewed as inferior. It's been quite proven that the console market is here to stay and is blasting past the PC. The console market will only become more and more of a lead of game developers, again, this coming from someone who loves PC gaming.

Cliche incoming: No reason to hate,... Appreciate!

I, personally like the Halo franchaise because the controls are tight, and its soo pretty!
I have an issue with the "dark corridor of doom" FPS layout, and I really am not much for the gritty, realistic settings ofthings like WW2 games. I like the fact that the enemy ships are big, pink hunks of metal with purple lights and dripping with shiny, blue fluid.
I like the fact that I'd actually want a summer home on half of the battlefields. (without the battle, of course)
And I don't like the flood.
Which is why I like to shoot them with rocket launchers for explosive effect.

Fire Daemon:
Halo is a bit of a hate object.

It's the game that you can attack if you want to attack the 360, just like MGS is attacked if you want to attack the PS3, Mario/Zelda/Metroid for the Wii and Half-life 2 for the PC. No real mystery, if people don't like the 360 then they don't like Halo 3 (mostly). That seems to be why Halo 3 gets the hate it does. People could easily attack Crackdown but it isn't as popular as Halo so it goes under the radar.

I like the 360, but dislike Halo 3, where does that put me? I also know plenty of people who dislike it who would never come on this forum, and own 360's. Also, I am not overly fond of the PS3, but I LOVE MGS4, I'm in no way a PS3 fan boy.(PC gamer here who owns both consoles)

And also, Crackdown hype compared to Halo hype? Can't really compare them when Halo 3 is one of the most over hyped games on the planet while Crackdown remains in the dark. Doesn't mean people don't dislike Crackdown, just means that Halo fans are a tad more vocal, and thus people who dislike the series can have more opportunities to argue their own experience in counter-argument fashion.

I think one of the main reasons people pick on Halo is because to them, and to so many others, it's a terribly average game (not bad, but not great), and when you see people being so avid(and highly aggressive) in their beliefs as to reinforce the notion of "greatest game evaar!", one cannot help but to respond to that.

Indulge me with this alternate version of events;

It's kinda like someone that you know going out and buying an old Metro. Then you pull up in your Merc and smiley through your teeth as you congratulate your friend on his purchase, while knowing he can do better. But then you friend decides that his Metro is actually the greatest car ever made, and is in fact, better than your obviously superior car (like watching a spoilt brat insist that a blue pen is red). Then the friendship turns sour as you point out all the flaws in his car, and point to other cars that are better, but in no ways out of reach of him. But of course he sticks to his guns, ego hurt (even though he DIDN'T make the car), and resorts to insulting YOU, and generalising anyone who thinks like you as a "car fan boy" or something absurd, or that "you've never driven a Metro so you don't know anything!" (while of course, I have, and thats why I know all it's faults)

Of course it all escalates from there into what we have today, one side saying it's poo and why(and they ARE entitled to their opinion), the other side being sarcastic/offensive/ignorant to the arguments put across. Much of which we see in this forum, for the highly aggressive side, I suggest a trip to YouTube.

Of course you do get nice Halo fan boys who'll happily admit the faults but shrug it off saying "well, I enjoy it anyway :)", and I admire that attitude. It's those people who genuinely enjoy the game, unlike those with a niggling thought in the back of their mind telling them it's maybe NOT the best game evaar but who suppress the thought with fervor and utmost devotion to the series which borderlines on fanatical as they wage a war of words on a website (most probably) saying "why X is the best and Y should shut the hell up because [insert sarcastic comment] HUR HUR HUR, i made you look foolish". Of course, the opposite effect usually happens.

Erana:
I, personally like the Halo franchaise because the controls are tight, and its soo pretty!
I have an issue with the "dark corridor of doom" FPS layout, and I really am not much for the gritty, realistic settings ofthings like WW2 games. I like the fact that the enemy ships are big, pink hunks of metal with purple lights and dripping with shiny, blue fluid.
I like the fact that I'd actually want a summer home on half of the battlefields. (without the battle, of course)
And I don't like the flood.
Which is why I like to shoot them with rocket launchers for explosive effect.

Yay! Another reason I like Halo. It is so colorful. More Blue Skies in Videogames! I like the flood that it adds much more depth to the gameplay where you can have the smarter enemies in the Covenant, but have the enemy that has no fear, no intelligence, just sheer numbers and determination to eat you. The Flood.

Plus, for every Halo hater out there, you need to play it with grunt birthday party on.

That still makes me smile with sheer delight today: "Bam" YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! *confetti*

PS: For an aside to the comment above: I guess I'm easy to please because I loved Orange Box, CoD4, Crysis, Bioshock, and Halo 3 and thought none of them to be over rated and Crysis to be under... ;) Play good games!

Fire Daemon:
I agree with Ultra Joe.

Why does everyone comment when this happens like it was unexpected?

Ah, the beauty of it all. Crowds of people online, characterizing halo fans as people who group together with like minded individuals and think less of their 'opposition' because of their opinions.

The irony is delicious, i could bottle it and have sex with the bottle.

And no, this is not hypocrisy by me thinking less of the halo haters, i hate all people who generalize indiscriminately. I also indiscriminately hate all people who generalize. Oho.

My problem with Halo 3 compared to MGS4 is the finish. They were both supposed to end the storys of the Main characters. MGS4 achieve finishing what 15+ games? while halo 3 coudn't finish shit and instead screamed sequel. FUCK HALO.

Bulletinmybrain:
My problem with Halo 3 compared to MGS4 is the finish. They were both supposed to end the storys of the Main characters. MGS4 achieve finishing what 15+ games? while halo 3 coudn't finish shit and instead screamed sequel. FUCK HALO.

i think it was just to finish that story.

And like you can hate anything based on that, if you hated things for cliffhangers you'd need to avoid 50% of all media.

Not to mention cliffs.

Bulletinmybrain:
My problem with Halo 3 compared to MGS4 is the finish. They were both supposed to end the storys of the Main characters. MGS4 achieve finishing what 15+ games? while halo 3 coudn't finish shit and instead screamed sequel. FUCK HALO.

I felt pretty satisfied. I really like the stories in MGS and I'm just rushing through on easy just to grab the story on a friends system. Again, must just be easy to please, but I thought the ending was very fitting and provided closure, even the Legendary one. The emotion of Cortana vs. the still resolute Chief was great.

Kraj:
Attention: "Halo physics = 100% fail in comparison to a quality modern day engine"
that is all.

Halo 2 and Halo 3 used the Havok physics engine... but thanks for trying.

I think that much of the vitriol over Halo comes from its very popularity. Those who prefer other games seem to find Halo's success (both inside and outside the hardcore audience) threatening to the viability of their favourite title (or their self-image, having identified with said title, in the more pathological cases) and so retaliate out of fear that it'll draw audience away.

Some of this is an off-shoot of the platform wars; I find the "keyboard and mouse" crowd are unusually fierce in their attacks, even more so than PS and Nintendo fans, as it seems to offend their self-image as the "skilled" elite of gaming. I wish I could remember how the PC community greeted "Goldeneye" when it first threatened the PC's primacy in FPS-land.

From this point of view, it's kinda sad, really. I'd hoped us gamers were better than that.

-- Steve

It's fine if you like Halo 3...It is not a bad game, but one must understand that the reason people get so worked up about it is because of those other people who claim it is god's gift to gaming. Hardcore people might like it, but as the OP and several others have stated (albeit sometimes indirectly) it MUST appeal to casual gamers more then other FPS's on the market, and these people are often people who do not fit in with people who play more then Halo 3. At my college a frat house had a Halo 3 party as a way to recruit members, everyone present was some form of jock, or people I would not normally associate with playing video games.

Having been practically forced to play in a Halo 3 tournament I can say that it is an adequate FPS game. The controls are fine and it looks very pretty. I personally do not enjoy it because it brings nothing that I want to the table; the story is uninspired, especially by sci-fi standards (being a Warhammer 40K player I cringe every time someone compares Master Chief to a Space Marine) and the characters (Outside of the Arbiter I guess) are tepid and bland.

In short Halo 3 gets the hate that it gets because it is a natural reaction to the inordinate amount of praise that it receives which many gamers (not being part of the demographic that Halo essentially opened the door for; ie. jocks/casual gamers) do not feel it deserves. These features, such as the Forge and the Theater are new because the new audience that few if any games have had before has never seen them before. I would say it's the whole "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" thing except that many seem to have been personally offended by the praise heaped on Halo 3 (that or Halo 3 killed their mother) and have created a backlash that to us who visit these websites and forums feel is unwarranted (I do not) but as has also been said before Halo 3 is hardly the only target of this (see: Metal Gear Solid 4)

I think Halo is a good game, and does deserve some praise but not half as much as it gets. It is a lot like every other shooter, but is one of the few that have had a good trilogy. The first ever Halo game was quite good for its time, and Halo 2 was even better, so in theory when people review Halo 3 they are partially speaking of the whole series, rather than just the mediocre third installment.

Halo as a series has always been popular, so most shooters now are (apparently) trying to copy it but that takes the fun out of every game that does. Halo was good becaue it was both unique and fun to play, but if it's not unique it's suddenly not as fun to play either.

Haze (although it was crap anyway) got a lot of stick for trying to be Halo, wich I think just shows why Halo may have partially ruined all new shooters. Any game that trys something new (like Haze) is automatically ripping off Halo, so they all have to be either crap or copying a series that isn't even that good, but already has instant success because of being over-hyped, over-rated and over-used.

Halo isn't a bad game, its just an overrated one. Usually, the people who really love halo, are the ones who don't play many games. They like because you can duel wield, you can throw genades, you can change how you look ect stuff you can get in any game. Sure, I did like Halo, I did have alot of fun times with it, but simply because so many of my friends did and we played together. I just wish they had the same infusiasm for Team Fortress 2...

Meet_Your_Doom:
I think Halo is a good game, and does deserve some praise but not half as much as it gets. It is a lot like every other shooter, but is one of the few that have had a good trilogy. The first ever Halo game was quite good for its time, and Halo 2 was even better, so in theory when people review Halo 3 they are partially speaking of the whole series, rather than just the mediocre third installment.

Halo as a series has always been popular, so most shooters now are (apparently) trying to copy it but that takes the fun out of every game that does. Halo was good becaue it was both unique and fun to play, but if it's not unique it's suddenly not as fun to play either.

Haze got a lot of stick for trying to be Halo, wich I think just shows why Halo may have partially ruined all new shooters. Any game that trys something new (like Haze) is automatically ripping off Halo, so they all have to be either crap or copying a series that isn't even that good, but already has instant success because of being over-hyped, over-rated and over-used.

To Be fair, Haze had quite a few more complaints against it instead of "being different than Halo". Many were because Free Radical has done so much better with their own signature series and the title turned out to be a piece of crap. I would have never put Haze and Halo vs. each other, that was just silly forum wars at GameFAQs. If Halo never existed, I think Haze would still have been a let down given the Time Splitters series.

SomeBritishdude: I really must be some radical exception because I adore Halo and still plays lots of CoD4, TF2, and many other different genres of games. When's the last time you saw a Halo fan that would go on and on about Lunar or love The Witcher or admit to playing Pokemon :)

I have a rant i occasionally pull out.

It's called:

"Hype is not a gameplay element, its not something you will ever see inside a game or even on the box, how can something be bad because of it?"

I will not write it out in it's full glory, but just remember that it's there.

tell them Fire, ill do it, i'm crazy enough to do it.

TheKbob:

Meet_Your_Doom:
I think Halo is a good game, and does deserve some praise but not half as much as it gets. It is a lot like every other shooter, but is one of the few that have had a good trilogy. The first ever Halo game was quite good for its time, and Halo 2 was even better, so in theory when people review Halo 3 they are partially speaking of the whole series, rather than just the mediocre third installment.

Halo as a series has always been popular, so most shooters now are (apparently) trying to copy it but that takes the fun out of every game that does. Halo was good becaue it was both unique and fun to play, but if it's not unique it's suddenly not as fun to play either.

Haze got a lot of stick for trying to be Halo, wich I think just shows why Halo may have partially ruined all new shooters. Any game that trys something new (like Haze) is automatically ripping off Halo, so they all have to be either crap or copying a series that isn't even that good, but already has instant success because of being over-hyped, over-rated and over-used.

To Be fair, Haze had quite a few more complaints against it instead of "being different than Halo". Many were because Free Radical has done so much better with their own signature series and the title turned out to be a piece of crap. I would have never put Haze and Halo vs. each other, that was just silly forum wars at GameFAQs. If Halo never existed, I think Haze would still have been a let down given the Time Splitters series.

Very true, Haze was god-awful, even if it was the only FPS on "next-gen", it would still be awful. Seeing those semi-2-D backgrounds makes me shudder, and the vehicle controls hurt my soul. I stopped playing after an hour.

Ultrajoe:

Bulletinmybrain:
My problem with Halo 3 compared to MGS4 is the finish. They were both supposed to end the storys of the Main characters. MGS4 achieve finishing what 15+ games? while halo 3 coudn't finish shit and instead screamed sequel. FUCK HALO.

i think it was just to finish that story.

And like you can hate anything based on that, if you hated things for cliffhangers you'd need to avoid 50% of all media.

Not to mention cliffs.

TheKbob:

Bulletinmybrain:
My problem with Halo 3 compared to MGS4 is the finish. They were both supposed to end the storys of the Main characters. MGS4 achieve finishing what 15+ games? while halo 3 coudn't finish shit and instead screamed sequel. FUCK HALO.

I felt pretty satisfied. I really like the stories in MGS and I'm just rushing through on easy just to grab the story on a friends system. Again, must just be easy to please, but I thought the ending was very fitting and provided closure, even the Legendary one. The emotion of Cortana vs. the still resolute Chief was great.

Well from what I can tell is that in halo 3 we were trying the finish the fight. I think the PR guy fell and broke his head. Also some AI chick that's a nudist should be in a titty bar not my head.

Bulletinmybrain:

Well from what I can tell is that in halo 3 we were trying the finish the fight. I think the PR guy fell and broke his head. Also some AI chick that's a nudist should be in a titty bar not my head.

Hmm, well I'm not sure we are on the same page then for this series if you don't understand who or what Cortana is and unless you feel asleep, I'm pretty sure we finished the fight. I don't want to list spoilers, but I think all the main antagonists were dealt with.

Johnn Johnston:

Indigo_Dingo:
I don't really know why, but its the same thing that affects MGS4. The difference is that the people who criticize MGS4 are ussually the ones who haven't played it.

Halo has the same thing - I've read a lot of user reviews on game sites that gave it a score of 0/10 for everything, and claiming that everything involved was terrible. When I checked the profile of the author, it was the case more often than not that on their profile they said that they only owned a PS3/Wii. The same syndrome hit MGS4 and SSBB.

though I think there's a slight difference, while people who never played MGS4 or Halo 3 usually rant about how it's horrible, there are still people who played Halo 3 and say that it sucks or usually that it isn't as great as everyone says.

Me for example, I played the multiplayer and I thought it was average. It was a standard deathmatch, first one to melee wins, dual weild everything, first one to grav hammer wins, ect... I didn't think it was horrible, but I didn't think it was bad either. It was average and that's what most people say halo 3 is when they've played it.

That's my theory anyway.