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Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 860 Joined: 2 Apr 2008     | |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008    |
Tau iz a cowardz.. Them thinkz dey so smartz wit derr gunz and no choppaz! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGGGH!!!!!!!! |
On the Record  Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008     | WH40K is too old for IG to be innovatively pathetic. Space Marines were the original badboys. Not that i dont think the IG are the most compelling race story wise (A opinion the horus heresy series is rapidly killing with a bolter) but saying they are like chief is an insult. Chief is like them. (The 'shits nitric acid' bit was awesome) Not that i don't like Halo, or Dislike Half-life for that matter, i Love Half-life as much as its fanatics and Halo as much is its crazed 12 year olds. I Have twice the fun and laugh at everybody. But saying that a game made decades before is 'Painfully cliche' is like calling Jack Nicholson dressing up in facepaint, "Done to death nowadays because of the new batman movie". Not that i don't like the Guard as people.... and snacks... Oh... so few armor saves, i just love to get my claws stuck into those battle lines! |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 442 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 | I love the Tau because they're the only race who seems decent and humane; good is a relative view, but, for example, whenever the Tau invade a planet and wish to depopulate it, they restrict reproduction and do it over generations rather than slaughter the inhabitants in one big holocaust. Besides, for every Tyranid, we have a plasma rifle. For every Ork, we have a Krootox. Tau soldiers die trying to get off a final round. I call that dedicated. Furthermore, the Tau Shas'O is the most commando of the military leaders, being pimped out with all sorts of heavy weapons, jetpacks, and cloaking devices. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 898 Joined: 24 Jun 2008     | Imperial Guard die with their boots on, cursing the eneimes of man with their last breath FOR THE EMPEROR!!!! |
On the Record Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
Im sorry, i just spotted an inconsistency. For every million Tyranids you have one Plasma rifle. its a small numerical error but you can see how it might make a difference in a tie breaker. Not that i dont like the tau, brainwashing (oho yes) and mind control aside (they murdered the Vespid leaders in secret assassinations to gain control of the race, nice guys my ass) They seem nice. But i must say, tau seem to fall short against the 'Nids on a tabletop, its almost as if their firepower works against them, when we reach and smash those lines they have nothing to fall back on. And i will reach those lines damn it, these are Tau not some infuriating IG wall or SOB Deathtrap. Powerhouses on the battlefield... but not within 5 meters... |
Beat Writer  Posts: 175 Joined: 19 Aug 2008    | thats why i love Space Wolves, as eager to get into combat as 'nids, but they have bolters aswell! and having 20 wolf guard in terminator armour with mastercrafted lighning claws, and a dozen other things (obviously in huge games only) suddenly appear behind your main battle-line (dunno if they still can, havn't played for a few years) was just a bonus. if i had to play any other race, i'd be going with the orks too. because i've got a ton of Gorkamorka stuff i could convert and they are just kinda awesome. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 860 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 | Oh don't get me wrong, I love the Astartes, and the Orks are so damn fun (Gorkamorka rocks, solely for the fact that I played 12 games in a row, sent my Nob's shoota off for "Kustomizin'" each time, and each time it just came back painted a different colour). However, the Guard are most definitely the underdog, and everyone loves the underdog. Tau I hate. Not because of the race (although the inconsistency of their background does piss me off), but because of the slack-jawed Fanboys who honestly think a race whose "Empire" is so small you could piss over it are actually a threat to the galaxy as a whole. I swear, you can tell which of my club's newbies play Tau by yelling "Who loves Halo!?" |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 9 Joined: 20 Aug 2008     | Imperial Guard; Any army which figures men < tanks is great. They form a human-wall, to hold of the attackers, so their big tanks can operate safely. Necrons; bad-ass robots on a quest to destroy ALL life. |
Beat Writer Posts: 175 Joined: 19 Aug 2008 | my Brother is a HUGE IG fun, but also has Space Marines, Eldar, and i think, a Tau army (he's got about 14 armies, in total) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3085 Joined: 13 Jul 2008     | I know I'm contradicting myself here but: |
Muckraker  Posts: 342 Joined: 15 Jul 2008   |
Well the Tau are the closest thing the 40K universe has to good guys, sure they're fascists with a brain wash fetish and a lethal allergy to close combat, but compared to anything else in the universe they're practically saints, which is what I guess Kikosemmek meant. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3213 Joined: 10 Nov 2007   |
Actually, the only power who loves and cares deeply about all His followers on an individual basis is Grandfather Nurgle. So he's probably the closest thing to unequivocal "good", just with a mildly evangelical bent. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
Most signifcantly they die in droves with their boots on, cursing the enemies of man, if their unfortunate enough for their deaths not to be instant. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3213 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 |
To be fair, if you paint them up in proper olive drab UNSC marine colours, the Tau look pretty sweet. Also, Tau are getting a major upgrade in 5th Edition as well, so they don't look quite so much like a rabbit in the headlights in the 40k galaxy at large. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3213 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 |
The most significant Difference between Imperial Ablative Armour and Chaos Cultists is that the cultists have to be chained to the front of the tanks, and the Guardsmen stand there FOR THE EMPEROR! |
On the Record Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 | to Tyranids, It's all flavor. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 591 Joined: 24 Jul 2008  | I haven't played or painted in ages, but my favourite is Orks and Eldar. |
Paperboy  Posts: 21 Joined: 18 Aug 2008   | Theres something to love about them all for me, well almost :D heres a few of them: Space Marines- Shiny Knights |
Copy Clerk Posts: 60 Joined: 12 Jan 2008 | I'm fond of most of the factions, and my only sorting system is "like" and "don't like". So I don't really have favorites. The ones I don't like are Dark Eldar and Chaos. Tyranids are there on the border, they're not lame enough to be classified under "don't like", but they don't fit the genre well enough to be classified under "like"...When I think about the Tyranids, it just feels that they're not making the WH40k world better than it already is. But they also don't make it any worse. So yeah, there's my opinion |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
Either wayz me Boyz getz lunch!! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3213 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 |
The flavour of hot laser death you will recieve, foul xeno scum! |
Beat Writer  Posts: 169 Joined: 2 Jun 2008   | i like tau, the empire seem like oppressive, tyrannical dicks by comparison. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 442 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 |
Ah, no, not really. The only legitimate threats to the universe are the Necrons, Tyranids, and the forces of Chaos, because their resources are virtually inexhaustible. The Tau, Eldar, Humans, and Orks are fucked in the big picture, but I'm not talking about that.
I don't know what propaganda you're talking about, though I'm aware of the assassinations of the Vespid leaders. Rest assured that those leaders were assassinated only after being carefully determined by an elected council to be a threat to their own people. The Tau are much more fitting to lead the Vespid into the future through a rigorous program of naturalization and honorable military service. The inconsistency was noted, and while there was a slight underestimation of Tyranid numbers in my previous post, I failed to mention that this ratio holds water *after* the bombs drop :) Tau can always fall back to their Kroot comrades who serve gallantly in combat against those who dishonor the greater good. --- Edit: I always wondered about the reason why sodium hydroxide wasn't brought to bear against humanity's contrived biological antagonists (Tyranids, namely). Acids dissolve metals, but bases dissolve tissue. Drop a load of NaOH on a hive and you can probably see it melt within two hours. Neutralize all that with a bit of corrosive sulfuric acid and you'll pretty much have dissolved the Tyranids into lifeless liquid. |
On the Record Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
When your a soulless vessel, you cant really die. And every Tyranid death is temporary, not only do we consume you, but our dead... after every battle except for total human or galaxy-native victory... we come out the better. You know how long it has been since a total galaxy-native victory? And Those were exterminatus, so nobody wins. ...except we survived them anyway... Ok enough, race-penis comparison, we are all brothers here, brothers of 40K. |
On the Record Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
Right up until the corpses are re-assimilated. |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 7 Joined: 15 Aug 2008  | Necron for their borg like soullessness, and Orks because they appeal to my inner Lad :) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2354 Joined: 14 Sep 2007   |
I know that experience. A friend of mine collects Warhammer. Favours the Tau, but has a few Tyranid Genestealers, Termagants and Spore Mines. All of his Tau infantrymen against my Tyranid forces. He had a frackin' steel mill against my poor, alien mutants! It's against the Geneva Convention! I quite like the Eldar. Skrimish tactics, you know? |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 851 Joined: 30 Jul 2008  | Imperial Guards, the BaneBlade is invincible! |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 2 Joined: 16 Feb 2005 | I have not played or painted in the past few years, so I was quite pleased when I came back to 40k finding that they had finaly done something with my favourite chapter. I just love Black Templars. The idea of an eternal crusade against the scum of the universe is just so appealing to me. "Against the alien, the mutant, the heretic. We are the emperors court, trial and verdict. Crusade for Eternity!" Is the kind of theme my crusade is getting build on. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 860 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 | Woah up, did someone just say the Orks are "fucked over" by all the other races? Since before I started 40K (which was about the time 5th Edition Vampire Counts came out), Orks have had a simple maxim attached to them - if all the Orks in the universe ever united, nobody could hope to oppose them. Orks are EVERYWHERE! They are the ONLY race who actually has a chance of "winning" 40K, because they will outlast everyone. |
On the Record Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
This is tabletop damnit! JK, talk about whatever But did the opponents not think to use jump units? The Baneblade is fodder if you lock it down.
Tau can't be broken head on, drop raveners up their backside and gargoyles on their heads and nobody shoots until they are looking at the drool on a carnifexes jaw... With tau, its about taking their plans and shitting on them in any way possible. |
On the Record Posts: 6467 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
What about Necrons Or 'Nids? 'Nids have been fighting all the orcs of Armageddon for decades now, eventually they will simply out-evolve them. And Necrons.. Well... Its inevitable that It'll be a Nid/cron stalemate for 'winner' of 40K, With the nids leaving the galaxy as the necrons aren't worth fighting (no food). |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1113 Joined: 19 May 2008    | I have a weakness for space marines because they are 1) insane religious zealots |
Muckraker  Posts: 234 Joined: 16 Jul 2008 | the Eldar are clearly the best. Strike with surgical precision with exactly what we need to get the job done. If that doesn't work then...Wraithlords! Also, the Eldar aren't fucked, we have a plan hur hur hur.... |
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It's quite obvious that the Imperial Guard are the greatest.
It's not because of their tanks, though they are the greatest tanks in the 40K universe (and any game based therein).
It's not because they have legions of soldiers, although they typically can horde-spam anyone into oblivion.
It's because everyone else is either a super-human, an alien with super-human powers, an alien with super-human tech, or is otherwise super-human in some super-human way. Guard, on the other hand, are flesh and blood Humans. It's like the whole Half-Life vs Halo thing. Half-Life is obviously FAR better, because Master Chief is some sort of genetically engineered smacktard who eats grenades and shits nitric acid, whilst Gordon Freeman is a nuclear physicist who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and accidentally saved the world. Sort of.
The whole "Super-human" angle has become so painfully cliché that it's not funny anymore. Nobody cares if you're super-human, but being just plain Human is worth taking note of.