Damn. I must be the only person who actually liked Soul Calibur IV. I've played it a LOT with my friends and have had an absolute blast.
First of all
juandonde: So Raphael now does a retarded move that enables you to attack in all 8 directions, and not at the same time more like you can attack behind you when the enemy is in front of you.
This move is called Cantarella Needle, and it is to help out Raphael's horizontal game, which has always been abysmal. You use it to punish people who sidestep (Or the Apprentice and his damn jump over you move) If you hit with it it stuns the enemy, setting you up perfectly for a throw.
Secondly, yes the characters are changed. This is because, as someone mentioned before, if the characters are exactly the same then people call the game on being too similar to previous installments. As a long time Raphael and Cervantes player I can say I enjoy the changes and learning to use their new moves (Though Cervantes has become the new "win button" as Mitsurugi and Sophitia were in Soul Calibur III).
Ok, the single player has changed as well. Story mode is short (5 matches) as opposed to the huge map spanning extravaganza that Soul Calibur I had and the Tale of Souls mode in III. Of course in my opinion this just made the story more accessible. You could get through a character's story mode in the space of maybe half an hour if you weren't going too fast and learn what their point is in the story very quickly. Then there is, what seems to be the vast majority crying "It's a fighting game, to hell with the story, just FIGHT" so who cares how single player is? If you just want to fight there's nothing wrong with arcade mode.
Someone was complaining about Critical Finishers. This was implemented to stop people from turtling and keeping a fight dragging on. I think it works well and honestly it doesn't come up all that often. When it does they are fun to watch and fit in with the character's personality. The game makers wanted to promote faster, more offensive fights and I think it works.
As for button mashing, I have never had a problem with it. At least, not so far. A good friend of mine is a consummate button masher and while she enjoyed some degree of success she fell pretty flat against someone who actually knew the mechanics/timing/use of their characters moves.
Hilde. She is awesome, honestly one of my favorite characters in the game. It's nice how she is one of the most heavily armored characters in the entire game, so I wish people would stop ragging on Ivy as an example of how the morals of the game developers are going steadily downhill but then completely fail to acknowledge Hilde as the game creator's attempts to address this very issue. Her moveset is heavily based on charge attacks. Hold B for long enough and she will let loose a down to upward strike that launches foes high in the air which you can combo into an air throw if you're good enough. Hold A, and she'll charge up her horizontal move, which eventually becomes a very quick unblockable strike. The key to performing well seems to be fending off your opponent and setting them up for your finishing charge attack to round off combos. Hilde's best moves seem to come from her long ranged A+B moves. As an example; down A+B, K will stab downards then she'll body tackle a good distance in front of her. Holding G during this move will cause her to simply move forward with no attack as a fake out. Note that her charge moves will still charge as long as you hold the right button, even if you perform other attacks that use the same button (ex. Holding B will still charge even if you map A+B to a shoulder button and use A+B moves while holding down just the B button). Hilde can be a lot of fun to use if used correctly.
BladesofReason: Damn. I must be the only person who actually liked Soul Calibur IV. I've played it a LOT with my friends and have had an absolute blast.
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I didn't say I didn't like, but I feel they didn't try as hard with this one. I liked the custom charactres more in three, and I hated what they did to Yoshimitsu in this one. I love Yoshimitsu to death, but they seriously ruined him. The suicide attack does more damage to you then to your opponent.
I don't hate it either, I've spent my afternoon playing it yesterday, to try and get more out of it.
I have had a lot of fun with Ivy, and it was cool to see some Critical Finishers as well (although I think having apparel made of cloth break to pieces is retarded and lazy from the programmers), but still the game is as a whole not as fun as SC2, it feels slower and the characters make me think of VF5, where everyone has zero personality and bland one-liners.
But then I realised SC4 was to be played as VF5, based on viewing your character as an avatar, not anymore as a fictional character with backstory and personality -contrary to most 2D fighters. And then I had more fun.
Why is SC2 considered the apex of the series? What was wrong with SC1? The whole Yoda/Darth Vader nonsense was predicted by having Spawn and Link playable in SC2, anyway.
It's an honest question, though - it's really hard for me to judge really important things like gameplay balance across the series when I've spent so much time with the first. For example, they nerfed Mitsurugi's air-juggle combo starter in SC2, and while the game felt nearly identical in many other respects, that single move was a staple of my entire SC1 strategy. It may have been an incremental improvement, but for me, it made my favorite character a little less fun to play.
My favourite characater in soul calibur is Cassandra! Her moves are simple yet powerful! most especially in soul calibur 2! The Valkary is her best weapon.
So Amy is fucking incredible, she's not Rapheal, she's Xianghua, and I finally figured out Hilde, I'm borderline terrific with her now and she's a ton of fun.
The thing is she's a charge character, and you can combo the shit out of people with her. You have to hold down an attack button for a while then let go to do her attacks, the trick is that you can hold down (charge) while doing other attacks.
Hilde is one sick mother fucking character.
(jesus, they really need a code for Ivy's move set from every game eh? Just a which Ivy are you good with code)
I Don't Think It's A Case Of Either I Like Playing Soul Blade Every So often soul Calibur 2 Is Still My Favourite For Ps2, Gamecube And Xbox, I liked using Link Spawn And Heihachi i Don't Really Like The Third One That Much the 4th one Is Ok, I don't Like Using Yoda In The Xbox Version As He Just Does Not Fit In, I've yet To Play The Ps3 Version But I fear The Same Will Apply For Darth Vader but I Do Quite Like The Customization Of The Fourth one After The Disappointment Of The Third One.
Killcushley: I Don't Think It's A Case Of Either I Like Playing Soul Blade Every So often soul Calibur 2 Is Still My Favourite For Ps2, Gamecube And Xbox, I liked using Link Spawn And Heihachi i Don't Really Like The Third One That Much the 4th one Is Ok, I don't Like Using Yoda In The Xbox Version As He Just Does Not Fit In, I've yet To Play The Ps3 Version But I fear The Same Will Apply For Darth Vader but I Do Quite Like The Customization Of The Fourth one After The Disappointment Of The Third One.
Maybe focus less on gaming and more on sorting out your grammar issues? No need for a capital to start every word.
Killcushley: I Don't Think It's A Case Of Either I Like Playing Soul Blade Every So often soul Calibur 2 Is Still My Favourite For Ps2, Gamecube And Xbox, I liked using Link Spawn And Heihachi i Don't Really Like The Third One That Much the 4th one Is Ok, I don't Like Using Yoda In The Xbox Version As He Just Does Not Fit In, I've yet To Play The Ps3 Version But I fear The Same Will Apply For Darth Vader but I Do Quite Like The Customization Of The Fourth one After The Disappointment Of The Third One.
Maybe focus less on gaming and more on sorting out your grammar issues? No need for a capital to start every word.
I think he is trying to send us a secret message. Let me type out all the letters he capitalized. IDTIACOEILPSBESCISMFFPGAXILSAHDRLTTOTMOILUYITXVAHJDNFIITPTPVBITSWAFDVIDQLTCOTFATDOTTO
Hmmm let me decode it through my auto decoder program o matic...
Alright it says this: "Vote Juandonde for President. He is a sexy beast, and all women want to have his babies."
Alright fuck this thread. After going online with Siegfriend and crushing a load of newbs I stumbled across a fellow Sieg player. Who wiped the floor with me...not even funny. He used Sieg in fucking crazy ways I've never thought. I got into a few one on one matches, we played 19 straight...I won 2...anyways, seeing a player this good made me realise ALL of the combos are still there, just not the ones we're used too. Soulcalibur is better than ever, I learned a shit load of techniques for about half the players I've beaked on this thread.
Anyone bitching with me go back to practice mode with your favorite character, I garuntee if you look hard enough you'll find what you were missing.
Killcushley: I Don't Think It's A Case Of Either I Like Playing Soul Blade Every So often soul Calibur 2 Is Still My Favourite For Ps2, Gamecube And Xbox, I liked using Link Spawn And Heihachi i Don't Really Like The Third One That Much the 4th one Is Ok, I don't Like Using Yoda In The Xbox Version As He Just Does Not Fit In, I've yet To Play The Ps3 Version But I fear The Same Will Apply For Darth Vader but I Do Quite Like The Customization Of The Fourth one After The Disappointment Of The Third One.
Maybe focus less on gaming and more on sorting out your grammar issues? No need for a capital to start every word.
I think he is trying to send us a secret message. Let me type out all the letters he capitalized. IDTIACOEILPSBESCISMFFPGAXILSAHDRLTTOTMOILUYITXVAHJDNFIITPTPVBITSWAFDVIDQLTCOTFATDOTTO
Hmmm let me decode it through my auto decoder program o matic...
Alright it says this: "Vote Juandonde for President. He is a sexy beast, and all women want to have his babies."
Seems accurate. Thank you Killcushley.
Well if he wanted us to vote for you then you have my vote =P
LivemeLifefree: That's because us Nintendo fans are pleased.
No Nintendo fans are not pleased, thats the last time I buy a Nintendo product.
I was spewing when I found out there not releasing SC4 on the Wii! Just as well I guess, reading everyone's analogy's sounds like they screwed it up like Brawl.
Since I don't have the luxury of a current-gen console, I'll just say one thing: Vader has no place in SC, no matter how cool he is. Namco, please stop cross-franchising in your games. It may have worked with Link, but at least he fits.
I can't figure out Hilde either. I get my ass handed to me by her, and I get my ass handed to me when playing as her.
But yes, Soul Calibur 4 is extremely disappointing. It's absolutely pathetic compared to Soul Calibur 2. I remember kicking so much ass with Talim, but now she's so nerfed it's not even funny. Even now I still play Soul Calibur 2's single player much more than Soul Calibur 4.
Damn. I must be the only person who actually liked Soul Calibur IV. I've played it a LOT with my friends and have had an absolute blast.
First of all
This move is called Cantarella Needle, and it is to help out Raphael's horizontal game, which has always been abysmal. You use it to punish people who sidestep (Or the Apprentice and his damn jump over you move) If you hit with it it stuns the enemy, setting you up perfectly for a throw.
Secondly, yes the characters are changed. This is because, as someone mentioned before, if the characters are exactly the same then people call the game on being too similar to previous installments. As a long time Raphael and Cervantes player I can say I enjoy the changes and learning to use their new moves (Though Cervantes has become the new "win button" as Mitsurugi and Sophitia were in Soul Calibur III).
Ok, the single player has changed as well. Story mode is short (5 matches) as opposed to the huge map spanning extravaganza that Soul Calibur I had and the Tale of Souls mode in III. Of course in my opinion this just made the story more accessible. You could get through a character's story mode in the space of maybe half an hour if you weren't going too fast and learn what their point is in the story very quickly. Then there is, what seems to be the vast majority crying "It's a fighting game, to hell with the story, just FIGHT" so who cares how single player is? If you just want to fight there's nothing wrong with arcade mode.
Someone was complaining about Critical Finishers. This was implemented to stop people from turtling and keeping a fight dragging on. I think it works well and honestly it doesn't come up all that often. When it does they are fun to watch and fit in with the character's personality. The game makers wanted to promote faster, more offensive fights and I think it works.
As for button mashing, I have never had a problem with it. At least, not so far. A good friend of mine is a consummate button masher and while she enjoyed some degree of success she fell pretty flat against someone who actually knew the mechanics/timing/use of their characters moves.
Hilde. She is awesome, honestly one of my favorite characters in the game. It's nice how she is one of the most heavily armored characters in the entire game, so I wish people would stop ragging on Ivy as an example of how the morals of the game developers are going steadily downhill but then completely fail to acknowledge Hilde as the game creator's attempts to address this very issue. Her moveset is heavily based on charge attacks. Hold B for long enough and she will let loose a down to upward strike that launches foes high in the air which you can combo into an air throw if you're good enough.
Hold A, and she'll charge up her horizontal move, which eventually becomes a very quick unblockable strike. The key to performing well seems to be fending off your opponent and setting them up for your finishing charge attack to round off combos. Hilde's best moves seem to come from her long ranged A+B moves. As an example; down A+B, K will stab downards then she'll body tackle a good distance in front of her. Holding G during this move will cause her to simply move forward with no attack as a fake out.
Note that her charge moves will still charge as long as you hold the right button, even if you perform other attacks that use the same button (ex. Holding B will still charge even if you map A+B to a shoulder button and use A+B moves while holding down just the B button). Hilde can be a lot of fun to use if used correctly.