*cough* *cough*This is a web site that revolves around gaming...So are you thick...?

Shiuz91:

A29inchbeefstick:
*cough* *cough*This is a web site that revolves around gaming...So are you thick...?

What do you mean am i think?

Me fail english? That's unpossible!

Anyways im not quite sure what this is getting at but if it's getting at what i think its getting at, games CAN make someone more violent. (like that taiwanise(sp) teenager who tried to see if mugging a cabbie was as easy in real life as in gta4, and then stabbed him) It certainly can make people short-tempered(happend to me), e.g if you get killed and get pissed of at it your more likely to get pissed off at stuff in real life.

You're preaching to the choir there buddy.

Shiuz91:
I know this topic has been done more than a Mario game...

Precisely. With this in mind, you should never start another thread on it. Use the search button and post your thoughts there.

And with that, I dash away into the mysterious night!

You know what? Videogames -can- and do make people violent. In my own experience though it was never the shooters or the beat em' ups. It was the platformers and the puzzlers that really made my blood boil. I can remember being brought to almost tearing my hair out in frustration at the trapeze level in Psychonauts, feeling like banging my head on the wall when fighting Mr.Sax in Rayman. Like breaking the game discs on only the first island in Myst.

Maybe that's just me though. Frustration brings out anger in me better. And actually...I haven't played a modern game other than the aforementioned Pyschonauts that could cause such frustration, games just seem to have gotten easy, too easy. Most don't frustrate enough...

Just because there is more sex is films doesn't mean there isn't too much in games...
I am worried about children getting violent games, or for that matter any game with a character like the women in Soulcalibur (perhaps even any eastern game, I would really like to be proved wrong here.). It is, I think, more subtle than many appreciate, its certainly not a matter of "I don't murder people" or "I don't play gears of war then go and chainsaw people". I recall first hearing/seeing the torture of Morgenholt in Splintercell (advised 16+ Britain) and it scared me, but now I can see much worse without effect. Perhaps it has numbed me too violence, but people should avoid violence because it is the right thing to do, not because they are scared of violence.
So, my conclusion: there is to mush sexism and too young children are exposed to it.
On violence: I don't know, but I know I would like GTA just as much if it was dumbed down a little, I did, for example, like just cause.

EDIT: Yeah, ignorant parents, but I know some 18+ year olds I wouldn't want playing some games.

I don't think I own a single PS3 game where I can dismember anybody. Actually, the last violent thing I saw was the Director getting jibbed by the landmine in Tropic Thunder.

Shiuz91:

A29inchbeefstick:
*cough* *cough*This is a web site that revolves around gaming...So are you thick...?

What do you mean am i think?

Never has a question been answered so completely, eloquently and accidentally.

Shiuz91:

A29inchbeefstick:
*cough* *cough*This is a web site that revolves around gaming...So are you thick...?

What do you mean am i think?

Oh the irony.

no violence is what games are based around and there will never be to much violence in video games

(video) games CAN influence you. In my experience, this is noticable in reflex-based actions, or thought patterns. An example of the first would be having a relfex to dodge when you see a camera after playing many stealth games. An example of the latter would be imagining moods of people and talking to them to raise certain stats, after playing too much sims (I heard girls who had this ;)

Why is it noticable in reflex actions? I dunno, guess because they are done without real thinking, and also because games are a lot about learning reflex actions.

So, why did you never go out and shot people? Because that's not really a reflex. HOWEVER, if you would ever end up in a situation where you're holding a gun and things run out of hand, I'll bet my money on it that a gamer would pull the trigger out of reflex earlier than a non-gamer. Fortunately, that's not a common situation to suddenly get in.

EDIT: this is by no means appicable to games only. I know that when I read a lot of cowboy novels when I was young, I sometimes had a reflex on sa sudden action that was 'cowboy-inspired'

EDIT 2: to answer the topic question, NO I do not think there is too much violence in games. We can handle it. However, it is absolutely foolish to say that games have no influence

What do you mean by violence? Criminal or heroic?

I think videogames need more violence.

I think there are too many games that have this violence and not enough games directed toward video games' ORIGINAL age target, kids. Yes, I was talking about the Xbox 360 and PS3. Am I a Nintendo fanboy? I'm not sure. Is it wrong to be a Nintendo fanboy? Short answer: NO! Long answer: NO, and shut up!

Shiuz91:
Next the theory is that violent video games make the player more violent. Now I'm not going to try and deny this has never happened but if you play a violent video game then shoot some people then shoot yourself you deserve to die.

So your argument to the idea that video games can influence people with predispositions to violence is that they deserve to die? You didn't even attempt to respond to the criticism..

Shiuz91:
It may be true that some games can influence people but those people have a choice weather or not they want to kill people or be violent

That's the danger with reflexes, impulses. You don't really have a choice there. Killing people luckily takes more than just some impulses usually

i play fps's and im a good shot so there is always an exception. Also I think games could use so more violence just to piss you off

1: Topic has been done to death
2: "Search button mother fucker! Do you use it?"
3: Edit button. Use it.

There's a 13 page long thread going on about this right now.

can someone lock this cause its going noware and he just wants the hot topic badge

BallPtPenTheif:
I don't think I own a single PS3 game where I can dismember anybody. Actually, the last violent thing I saw was the Director getting jibbed by the landmine in Tropic Thunder.

Timeshift has meaty explosions.

The reason why people are offende by a half-nakade chicks in video games, is because they are used like sex items in them, to satisfy middle-aged sweaty men. While most movies with sexual content have more realistic female characters than ones in video games and are not just there for perverts to jerk off.

Black yeoman:
It is, I think, more subtle than many appreciate, its certainly not a matter of "I don't murder people" or "I don't play gears of war then go and chainsaw people". I recall first hearing/seeing the torture of Morgenholt in Splintercell (advised 16+ Britain) and it scared me, but now I can see much worse without effect. Perhaps it has numbed me too violence, but people should avoid violence because it is the right thing to do, not because they are scared of violence.

So, my conclusion: there is to mush sexism and too young children are exposed to it.

So because of video game violence, there is too much sexism? I see your argument there.

Rolls eyes.

Raziel_Likes_Souls:
[quote=BallPtPenTheif post=9.70693.699994]I don't think I own a single PS3 game where I can dismember anybody. Actually, the last violent thing I saw was the Director getting jibbed by the landmine in Tropic Thunder.

You my friend have yet to play Ninja Gaiden II.

Violence & Video games is just simple. If you remove the violence from Videogames/TV/entertainment in general, that wont stop violence. It's human nature, or rather I should say animalistic. Human beings are still animals.

Frankly a kid who cannot differentiate a game from Joe Schmoe-down-the-street, should not be playing these yes; however this also means that the parents are idiots as well for not teaching their child right from wrong. Anyone that uses games as a means of "explination" to a violent act should be locked up in a psychiatric ward for life, rather have some nut-job go start some games-are-evil protest. Games induce agression, duh, but what doesn't. Your boss might make you angry, but if you can perceieve good from bad you wont go shooting him. Some people still do, they get locked up.