Neither "yay" nor "nay". If you can incorporate sniping into game play, then ok. if that is your only mode or game play, then no. example, if I'm running around fragging people and i run up a tower and let loose a few rounds to take out a fair number of opponents, then that's acceptable as long as I don't stay there long. However, if i run directly to a tower and stay there while only blasting away with sniper weapons, then no.

As a strategy, yes.
As a main form of combat, no.

Well, that's CoD4, the "Camper's Delight."

In a game like Halo where you can't actually down a person in one shot (unless it's a headshot) then sniping isn't as annoying. Plus there's less LoS from any obvious hideaways and less ammo available for the sniper so even if he has a reign of terror it won't be very far or very long.

I like sniping, thus, yay. Skill argument is irrelevant, since it's exactly the same as using a machine gun, aim, shoot and adapt to the opponent(s). A sniper that camps for long periods of time is a free kill, so that's a non issue.

Yay since I love sniping.

Eggo:
Due to the accuracy of the M16 and G3 (at least when you use a keyboard and mouse), sniper rifles are completely useless as individuals and as teammates in team games of Call of Duty 4.

In Team Fortress 2, snipers utterly useless as teammates since there's always more use for a couple more medics, heavies, soldiers, or engineers :I

I think you are being a little too "extreme" though, Snipers are great for popping the medic healing the heavy.

As for CoD4, why the hell are the snipers so incredibly nerfed? Hell I've shot people in the fucking HEAD, and since it doesn't register most of the time, or has a "late hit register" - and they end up surviving because they have juggernaut.

I've tried doing it before and it helps you get more kills, but its really boring to me. I like to move around a lot and just standing there in one spot sniping people isn't very entertaining for me.

I like sniper rifles though, I can be pretty accurate with my mouse on some games (not many, it depends how smooth the movement is really and whether or not there's view bobbing) and its fun to run around with the sniper rifle just shooting everyones head off :P

Eggo:

Eldritch Warlord:
Well, that's CoD4, the "Camper's Delight."

In a game like Halo where you can't actually down a person in one shot (unless it's a headshot) then sniping isn't as annoying. Plus there's less LoS from any obvious hideaways and less ammo available for the sniper so even if he has a reign of terror it won't be very far or very long.

Campers aren't a problem when you can easily aim at them even when they are out of your POV though :]

CoD4 is also mostly overgrown and grayscale so even if the theoretical superiority of your no doubt costly mouse was true you couldn't see the campers so it doesn't matter.

Unlike Halo's clean environments and large color variance.

Eggo:
What about the "being useless to your team" argument? Of course, ignore if all you play are snipers maps and/or free for all.

I never play a sniper unless playing with friends, so that's not much of an issue. Playing a sniper online is like begging for constant abuse, something that i don't actually enjoy, thus i have no recent experience with being a sniper in a normal online match.

"Thanks for standing still, Wanker!" is going in my yearbook.

If it's part of the game, then it's part of the game.

A game that's designed to have snipers usually has a good way of countering them too. If the game's like that, I don't see the problem even if someone whores their sniper rifle.

Hard to say. Tactically speaking in a team deathmatch (depending on the size of the teams) one or two snipers stationed far and hidden well can provide excellent cover fire fot the rest of the team. But if the entire team is sniping then it's a little...uh dumb! Because then the entire point of a sniper is stalk and kill. Your far and hidden from view if the entire team tries to do that your gonna run out of cover eventually.

And on the point of "skill" I'll say this much some games have sniping down to where I could shoot you in the foot and you would die (like Halo) others make so where you really do have to try and aim for the head if your gonna kill them in one shot (like CoD4).

So yeah there is some skill in sniping whether you admit it or not. (of course if you say theres no skill in sniping then I guess you suck at sniping)

EDIT: Also, since SHiuz 91 played a game where they were 27-0 on kills and you died once, you must have been playing a whole class of noobs or something to get that score why are you complaining? One person got off a lucky shot you died once big deal . I wouldn't have been dissapointed in that game at all.

Shiuz91:

Please do me a favour and don't say Halo is better than COD i don't want to get into this arguement

Can do chief.

Eggo:

Eldritch Warlord:
CoD4 is also mostly overgrown and grayscale so even if the theoretical superiority of your no doubt costly mouse was true you couldn't see the campers so it doesn't matter.

Unlike Halo's clean environments and large color variance.

Overgrown? Like the map? I don't know about you, but I get the freedom to choose what maps I want to play on.

And if you can't see campers on COD4, then something is seriously wrong with your sound source localization and saccade functions.

In other words, campers on the PC version of COD4 are essentially free kills.

Not neccessarily, if they're in the right place. Watch any "Pro tips" for CoD4 and they'll tell you either what to have or where to camp.

And no, overgrown as in full of environmental details you can hide in. And the low color saturation doesn't help either.

Woe Is You:
If it's part of the game, then it's part of the game.

A game that's designed to have snipers usually has a good way of countering them too. If the game's like that, I don't see the problem even if someone whores their sniper rifle.

Agreed

poll needs a third option for depends on which game.
a sniper in some shooters kinda spoils the multiplayer for me but in others is pretty much a matter of skill and getting to it before the morons who think there "the uber awesome l337 at sniperz yo!"

jacobschndr:

And on the point of "skill" I'll say this much some games have sniping down to where I could shoot you in the foot and you would die (like Halo)

Do you play with no shields?

To Shatnershaman:
Seriously, shoot anyone twice. Anywhere on the body (except the head of course, thats a one shot kill) and they will die in Halo. Just twice. One for the shield the other for the finish. Anywhere from your pinky finger to your big toe.

Shiuz91:

jacobschndr:
Hard to say. Tactically speaking in a team deathmatch (depending on the size of the teams) one or two snipers stationed far and hidden well can provide excellent cover fire fot the rest of the team. But if the entire team is sniping then it's a little...uh dumb! Because then the entire point of a sniper is stalk and kill. Your far and hidden from view if the entire team tries to do that your gonna run out of cover eventually.

And on the point of "skill" I'll say this much some games have sniping down to where I could shoot you in the foot and you would die (like Halo) others make so where you really do have to try and aim for the head if your gonna kill them in one shot (like CoD4).

So yeah there is some skill in sniping whether you admit it or not. (of course if you say theres no skill in sniping then I guess you suck at sniping)

Well i only sniped once that was on wet work during a sabotage i stayed up on the top floor and at the end of the game i was 30&4 i find no skill in sniping.

Must have been playing a bunch of noobs

Due to the fact that you used the phrase "Pwning" I'm going to disregard everything you say.

And yes, I like sniping. Note my Avatar.

jacobschndr:

And on the point of "skill" I'll say this much some games have sniping down to where I could shoot you in the foot and you would die (like Halo)

jacobschndr:
Seriously, shoot anyone twice. Anywhere on the body (except the head of course, thats a one shot kill) and they will die in Halo. Just twice. One for the shield the other for the finish. Anywhere from your pinky finger to your big toe.

The first quote says nothing about 2 shots and the same thing happens in COD4.

I personally hate being sniped, but it's a legitimate weapon so I see no reason not to use it.