I sat angrily reading an article about the next Call of Duty game. Not only didn't I enjoy Treyarch's last shot at the series, I felt as though it was a huge step back from CoD4:MW. I can't stand the thought of playing another WWII first person shooter. But then I thought to myself, "Now now, Bleach, do you have any better ideas than World War II or space marines?" I came up with a resounding yes! I believe some developer needs to try their hand at the American Revolutionary War!

Indeed, a market completely untapped (with the exception of an independent HL2 mod). The excitement of muskets and bayonets. You'll certainly think about your shots if it takes you 10 seconds to load the next one. No time to reload and shoot that guy? Stab him with your bayonet. Old school cannons firing giant balls overhead. Smoke billowing out from everything due to unrefined gunpowder. The occasional flintlock pistol firing in the distance. To hell with Panzer tanks, we have horses!

So, what do you guys think? Idiotic or brilliant?

Here's pretty much what I think (courtesy of Something Awful)

I think you just won the game...

I'd definitely buy it :P

Maybe like a free-roam American Revolution. Go anywhere you want, side with the South or the North, or just raid towns with your gang of robbers.
And with third-person to first-person style gameplay, like Oblivion.
That would be cool, although I dont think Generation Y could handle the tedious reload times of rifles and muskets. I guess Winchesters would be fine, or a gatling gun.

Tattaglia:
Maybe like a free-roam American Revolution. Go anywhere you want, side with the South or the North, or just raid towns with your gang of robbers.
And with third-person to first-person style gameplay, like Oblivion.
That would be cool, although I dont think Generation Y could handle the tedious reload times of rifles and muskets. I guess Winchesters would be fine, or a gatling gun.

Yeah, you're definatly talking about the American CIVIL WAR.

Tattaglia:
Maybe like a free-roam American Revolution. Go anywhere you want, side with the South or the North, or just raid towns with your gang of robbers.
And with third-person to first-person style gameplay, like Oblivion.
That would be cool, although I dont think Generation Y could handle the tedious reload times of rifles and muskets. I guess Winchesters would be fine, or a gatling gun.

I think you have that confused with he Civil War. Gatling guns were newish during the Civil War, the North and South were together(for once) for the Revolution. Civil War the people of the north and sounded banded together with themselves(for second) and fought each other. Revolutionary War: People being dicks and starting a war, and leaving
Civil War: People being dicks, people trying to stop them, then starting a war and leaving.

Raid towns with your gang of robbers? What?

Didn't they already try that with that Civil War game for 360? I mean yeah the game sucked, boring gameplay and needed more polish, but I think it showed pretty well that FPSs from that era are pretty much a dead end.

Pyronox: It doesn't specifically have to be US, but that was the first war I thought of involving muskets.

Tattaglia: I like the free-roam idea. No big deal if you piss off the authorities: dodge the first round of fire and you have 20 seconds of free time to run away :)

Fineldar:

Tattaglia:
Maybe like a free-roam American Revolution. Go anywhere you want, side with the South or the North, or just raid towns with your gang of robbers.
And with third-person to first-person style gameplay, like Oblivion.
That would be cool, although I dont think Generation Y could handle the tedious reload times of rifles and muskets. I guess Winchesters would be fine, or a gatling gun.

I think you have that confused with he Civil War. Gatling guns were newish during the Civil War, the North and South were together(for once) for the Revolution. Civil War the people of the north and sounded banded together with themselves(for second) and fought each other. Revolutionary War: People being dicks and starting a war, and leaving
Civil War: People being dicks, people trying to stop them, then starting a war and leaving.

Raid towns with your gang of robbers? What?

Oops, my bad. And yes, raid towns with my gang of robbers.
My 1700s - 1800s history needs serious work.

Actually, that kind of game might be sorta awesome with the Wii.

That actually could work, but the gun physics may need to be simplified a huge deal.

I would really like to see games like this. There is mod for Half Life (1 and 2) about the American Revolution. There are things I would change about this mod, but no denying it's way fun.

http://www.bgmod.com/

BleachedBlind:
I sat angrily reading an article about the next Call of Duty game. Not only didn't I enjoy Treyarch's last shot at the series, I felt as though it was a huge step back from CoD4:MW. I can't stand the thought of playing another WWII first person shooter. But then I thought to myself, "Now now, Bleach, do you have any better ideas than World War II or space marines?" I came up with a resounding yes! I believe some developer needs to try their hand at the American Revolutionary War!

Indeed, a market completely untapped (with the exception of an independent HL2 mod). The excitement of muskets and bayonets. You'll certainly think about your shots if it takes you 10 seconds to load the next one. No time to reload and shoot that guy? Stab him with your bayonet. Old school cannons firing giant balls overhead. Smoke billowing out from everything due to unrefined gunpowder. The occasional flintlock pistol firing in the distance. To hell with Panzer tanks, we have horses!

So, what do you guys think? Idiotic or brilliant?

I think that even going back to bow and arrows would be better <_<
Faster recharge at least, different ammo like normal arrows, burning arrows, jagged arrows and such... at least you wouldn't take forever to recharge, or march in huge lines with guns that are so inaccurate, you need a whole swarm of bullets to actually hit someone once.

Cmon, a medieval shooter would be cool =P Maybe something robin hood inspired or whatever.
Imagine sniping a knight in full armor with a bow... and he would only kill if you get his eye.

A Robin Hood game might be interesting. Something in the vien of Thief molested by Assasins Creed's sword fighting system.

Actually, hold it, a Robin Hood game would be very interesting. The Possibiltiy exists for stealth gameplay, ranges sniping, swordfighting, and even jousting. Ivanhoe was known to be an ally of Robin's and traveled England fighting in Jousts to raise the coin to pay for King Richards bribe in...some game. God I forget what it was called.

Oh and Squadbased combat. Anyone else wanna see Little John rip a small tree out of the ground and hit someone with it?

Sounds more in the vein of Third Person Adventure, though.

A good soldier should be able to shoot 3 rounds in a minute if Sharpe's Rifles is to be believed. That could actually be a fun mini-game. Tear, poor, spit, tap, aim, fire. And up close sword fighting could be fun.

TsunamiWombat:
A Robin Hood game might be interesting. Something in the vien of Thief molested by Assasins Creed's sword fighting system.

Actually, hold it, a Robin Hood game would be very interesting. The Possibiltiy exists for stealth gameplay, ranges sniping, swordfighting, and even jousting. Ivanhoe was known to be an ally of Robin's and traveled England fighting in Jousts to raise the coin to pay for King Richards bribe in...some game. God I forget what it was called.

Oh and Squadbased combat. Anyone else wanna see Little John rip a small tree out of the ground and hit someone with it?

Sounds more in the vein of Third Person Adventure, though.

I rememer playing a bad rpg of robin hood back a few years ago. Your idea sounds great though.

I'd prefer the earlier wars to establish colonies in America, with all the old world powers clashing up and down the continent(s).

Mortal Union: The War of the Spanish Succession. It would follow the campaigns of our favorite Duke Marlborough through the War of Spanish Succession in proper Anglo-centric fashion. Perhaps action in Flanders or Ireland during the Nine Years War will serve as a tutorial or epilogue.

Weapons will include muskets, hand muskets, swords, pikes, and potentially myriad other melee weapons. No rifles. Toward the end of the game, the bayonet will be introduced as a semi-super-weapon. Levels will include line-battles, standard run-and-gun (or stab) levels, cavalry maneuvers, and dragoon actions.

The focus will be on squad action. No really, I mean it. Your squad will move with you through the level. There will be Squad Commands: Advance, Hold Ground, Withdraw, Form Ranks (retreat or advance with the player). Ordering the Advance twice will result in a Charge, with results you can imagine. The player will have to stay smart or risk moving his squad into a compromising position.

The player will have a Health-Bar- of sorts. It will function much like Health Bars in other games, but will actually represent the Morale of his unit. Morale will lower as the player and the soldiers in his unit take damage. Low Morale will result in wavering troops, and 0 Moral will result in Route. Morale will be raised when the player kills an enemy soldier, and by reaching Flag Points whereupon the Union Jack or regimental flags can be planted.

Battles will be true to the times: there will be heavily fortified camps, and open battlefields filled with cannon-fire and charging cavalry. The trick will be getting the difficulty just right. I mean, making it complex enough that great players will have tips and tricks for the up-and-coming. It will be awesome, just as soon as my development company gets up and running...

I think it could work, but it would have to be done "right". Sometimes you have to sacrifice a bit of realism for gameplay - else the game is not fun to play. There are a lot of good ideas floating around for games. Man... If I ever get time to sit down and program, and I'm going to be hanging out here a lot more. :)

A weapon could be like a kid who follows you around reloading muskets for you; you have like five and he reloads and hands you new ones when you need to fire.

I like the idea of a Robin Hood game (though not first person), a free-romaing game, maybe where you're hunted the entire time, always being pursued unless in disguise in the cities, but able to hide in the forest. Free-roaming, wagon stealing fun interspersed with wider missions in the castles and towns of Nottinghamshire.

Why has nobody made a FPS game where you can actually play as a Terrorist, or a WWII game from the German perspective? Do people not realise that playing the bad guys is FUN? Yeah, so people will bitch about how "bad taste" it is, but you can guarantee half the planet would buy any shitty game if you just put the tag line "You get to blow up the White House!" on the cover.

It's what made the C&C NOD campaign worth beating. ;)

I think standing in a line and firing a single shot gun that takes ages to reload just wouldn't be fun

Isn't COD5 in vietnam? Anyway, I think a game like that would be fun, origional anyway. They could sacrifice realism for a gun that relouds at modern standards

CoD5 is taking place in Japan during WWII. Different location, still just WWII.

Wargamer:
Why has nobody made a FPS game where you can actually play as a Terrorist, or a WWII game from the German perspective? Do people not realise that playing the bad guys is FUN? Yeah, so people will bitch about how "bad taste" it is, but you can guarantee half the planet would buy any shitty game if you just put the tag line "You get to blow up the White House!" on the cover.

It's what made the C&C NOD campaign worth beating. ;)

Well, I guess you'd have to totally whitewash all the atrocities. But they managed that by putting the Soviet Union in COD, so I guess it can be done.

And Rooster, you're so close. Put it in the Napoleonic wars, stick a fork in it, and call it done. Whack the dutch revolt in the same series and we can have some awesome water effects as we flood the country to stop the Spanish and have ship boarding battles in the fields outside beseiged cities.

Wargamer:
Why has nobody made a FPS game where you can actually play as a Terrorist

I direct you to Counter-Strike.

Ninja Pirate War: Not technically a First Person SHOOTER, rather a game wherein you cointrol a pirate captain, trained to masterhood in ninjitsu. Dual-wield a variety of sabres, scimitars, katanas and more as you sail the seas of Japan in search of honour and ships to steal. Conquer towering foes, such as the Shurikraken (I don't care what you say, I'm proud of that one) in scaled battles that will leave you at wits end. Do you have what it takes to become Captain Master and find the Ultimate Treasure(tm) and find the path to immortality? Find out, for the exclusive price of £35.99, only available on xbox 360, Wii and PC.

Wargamer:
Why has nobody made a FPS game where you can actually play as a Terrorist, or a WWII game from the German perspective? Do people not realise that playing the bad guys is FUN? Yeah, so people will bitch about how "bad taste" it is, but you can guarantee half the planet would buy any shitty game if you just put the tag line "You get to blow up the White House!" on the cover.

It's what made the C&C NOD campaign worth beating. ;)

Ever played Counter-Strike :D

HA! Beat ya to it :P

I'd love an American Revolution game, just so long as I can play on the British side and keep you yanks in line.

Just kidding. :P

Cheesus333:
HA! Beat ya to it :P

Noooooo... Damn it.

I could imagine this as a third-person shooter/fighter, but not as an FPS. Why? Because shooting once, then waiting 45 seconds to shoot again would be extremely boring(particularly if you miss the first time). And melee-fighting sucks pretty badly in first person.

If it was to be third-person you could include more fancy-schmany melee moves using your various sabers, bayonets and boxing skills. I imagine a cover system a bit like gears of war - say, you are storming an enemy formation, and then you have to cover before they shoot a volley, then get up and run, then hack the ones you don't shoot to death with a saber.