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hagaya
Paperboy
Posts: 30
Joined: 1 Sep 2008

Name an FPS, say a problem you have with it, and think of a way to solve said problem.

Eggo
PROBATION
Posts: 2827
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

FPS: Nearly all console FPS games
Problem: No non-borked mouse/keyboard support
Solution: Implement non-borked mouse/keyboard support

User was put on probation for: Poll: CoD: WaW. Its got major issues.. (3 days)
Dayantis
Copy Clerk
Posts: 84
Joined: 3 Jan 2008

FPS: Team Fortress 2
Problem: It's too addictive and eats my time.
Solution: Break my fingers.

TheNecroswanson
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 3806
Joined: 29 Nov 2007

FPS: Half Life 2.
Problem: Too Awesome.
Solution: Rinse eyes with acid.

But on a serious note:

FPS: Jericho.
Problem: Ending
Solution: Better Characterization and logner game.

juandonde
Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 919
Joined: 14 May 2008

FPS: FEAR
Problem: Too Scary
Solution: Remove all little girls from this game and all mention of little girls as if you had to make a scary first person shooter for someone listed on meganslaw.com

meatloaf231
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1847
Joined: 13 Feb 2008

FPS: Pirates, Vikings and Knights II
Problem: No ninja
Solution: More ninja

the monopoly guy
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2733
Joined: 8 May 2008

FPS: Synergy mod
Problem: All servers are outdated except the one that has bratty little dutch kids.
Solution: I don't know! I just don't know!

FPS: Call of Duty 4
Problem: Grenade spamming
Solution: All grenades randomly thrown into the air will explode in a big cloud of marshmallows

Eggo
PROBATION
Posts: 2827
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

Grenade spamming in COD4 only happens on shipment and wet work though :o

User was put on probation for: Poll: CoD: WaW. Its got major issues.. (3 days)
ShadeOfRed
Muckraker
Posts: 283
Joined: 20 Jan 2008

Game: Team Fortress 2
Problem: I suck as Heavy and don't want to grind for the Sandvich
Solution: There is none.

AmericanWarMachine
Copy Clerk
Posts: 84
Joined: 7 Sep 2008

Game: Halo 3
Problem: Sucked worse than halo 2 which was worse than halo 1 (the best imo).
Solution: Return it to store.

Aries_Split
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2082
Joined: 12 May 2008

Game:Resistance.
Problem:It ends.
Solution:Build a time machine, and go to the release of Resistance 2. Then play. Or you could just play the online till RE:2 comes out.

Indigo_Dingo
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 6463
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

Eggo:
FPS: Nearly all console FPS games
Problem: No non-borked mouse/keyboard support
Solution: Implement non-borked mouse/keyboard support

You mean like the Frag FX?

Aries_Split
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2082
Joined: 12 May 2008

Indigo_Dingo:

Eggo:
FPS: Nearly all console FPS games
Problem: No non-borked mouse/keyboard support
Solution: Implement non-borked mouse/keyboard support

You mean like the Frag FX?

*Watches as the giant exclamation mark above Indigo_Dingo's head towers above Eggo.*

Souplex
Press Junketeer
Posts: 480
Joined: 29 Jul 2008

The game: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

The problems: No multiplayer, no beam switching, (so nobody can have a preffered weapon in multplayer) no beam combos (The super missile was just satifying.) and the way they applied hypermode.

The solution: Just change all the things on this list. Hypermode isn't coming back anyway as it was story related and that story is over.

Eggo
PROBATION
Posts: 2827
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

Indigo_Dingo:

Eggo:
FPS: Nearly all console FPS games
Problem: No non-borked mouse/keyboard support
Solution: Implement non-borked mouse/keyboard support

You mean like the Frag FX?

That's only for the PS3 and that still doesn't constitute non-borked M/K support (although it's a great step in the right direction).

Besides, the most prominent console FPS is on the Xbox 360 and the current third party hardware for mouse/keyboard support for it don't work very well.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/splitfishs-quest-for-xbox-360-acceptance/19203/

SplitFish is currently only supporting the PlayStation 3 with the US$59.99 FragFX controller, a device which was developed for SCEA's Resistance: Fall of Man. The CEO says that the reason his company hasn't jumped to Xbox 360 is that Microsoft remains steadfast in not allowing mouse-like controllers on the platform. Since the FragFX device clearly has a mouse controller, Microsoft isn't sold on the concept, even though they did see prototypes for the Xbox platform.

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Imitation Saccharin
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1011
Joined: 1 Dec 2007

meatloaf231:

Solution: More ninja

That's kind of a panacea for bad games, isn't it though?

Indigo_Dingo
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 6463
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

Eggo:

Indigo_Dingo:

Eggo:
FPS: Nearly all console FPS games
Problem: No non-borked mouse/keyboard support
Solution: Implement non-borked mouse/keyboard support

You mean like the Frag FX?

That's only for the PS3 and that still doesn't constitute non-borked M/K support (although it's a great step in the right direction).

Besides, the most prominent console FPS is on the Xbox 360 and the current third party hardware for mouse/keyboard support for it don't work very well.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/splitfishs-quest-for-xbox-360-acceptance/19203/

SplitFish is currently only supporting the PlayStation 3 with the US$59.99 FragFX controller, a device which was developed for SCEA's Resistance: Fall of Man. The CEO says that the reason his company hasn't jumped to Xbox 360 is that Microsoft remains steadfast in not allowing mouse-like controllers on the platform. Since the FragFX device clearly has a mouse controller, Microsoft isn't sold on the concept, even though they did see prototypes for the Xbox platform.

I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most prominent FPS, as it remains the highest played FPS on both systems. At the end of the year, it will probably shift to Resistance 2 on the Ps3, and Far Cry 2 on the 360 (so sue me, I think Resistance 2 online might be more entertaining).

Wait, its $59.99 US? I thought it was $130 - shit, I've got to get me one.

Eggo
PROBATION
Posts: 2827
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

Halo 3 is far more culturally prominent than COD4 but it's all semantics anyway; my point still stands.

User was put on probation for: Poll: CoD: WaW. Its got major issues.. (3 days)
stompy
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2990
Joined: 21 Jan 2008

juandonde:
FPS: FEAR
Problem: Too Scary
Solution: Remove all little girls from this game and all mention of little girls as if you had to make a scary first person shooter for someone listed on meganslaw.com

What he said. God damn, can't a man play a good FPS these days without horror elements?

FPS: Half Life
Problem: Not available in a hard copy any more
Solution: Move out of Australia

Indigo_Dingo
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 6463
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

stompy:

juandonde:
FPS: FEAR
Problem: Too Scary
Solution: Remove all little girls from this game and all mention of little girls as if you had to make a scary first person shooter for someone listed on meganslaw.com

What he said. God damn, can't a man play a good FPS these days without horror elements?

FPS: Half Life
Problem: Not available in a hard copy any more
Solution: Move out of Australia

My god...the cure is worse than the disease.

Indigo_Dingo
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 6463
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

Eggo:
Halo 3 is far more culturally prominent than COD4 but it's all semantics anyway; my point still stands.

I think the Halo series is more culturally prominent, but COD 4 is more prominent than Halo 3, which is the only one of the series to still be Console exclusive.

But now I'm just nitpicking.

I can see what you're saying, yes, but I fail to see your point. You're saying that arguably the most well known console exclusive First Person Shooter is on a system that has no mouse support - I say that there are some console exclusive FPS that have mouse support on the Ps3 via the Frag FX. If one system is behind in this respect, that does not detract from the other being at a sufficient level for it to not be a problem for that console, or rather that the problem itself is exclusive to one console (the Wiimote works brilliant for FPS's, so long as they don't require swordfighting)(don't say keyboard is better than buttons, thats just getting argumentative).

Indigo_Dingo
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 6463
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

FPS: TF2
Problem: Spies sapping mah Sentry!
Solution: Use wrench as needed.

I know, I'm horrible

Credge
Muckraker
Posts: 227
Joined: 12 Apr 2008

FPS: TF2
Problem: Point and click adventure pyros
Solution: Introduce them to Day of the Tentacle.

FPS: TF2
Problem: Lingering flame damage lasts too long and does too much damage.
Solution: Reduce lingering flame time by half, keep same damage per tick.

FPS: TF2
Problem: Pyro is a hard counter to many classes.
Solution: Make one class a hard counter to the pyro by giving him the tools to keep enemies at a range.

FPS: TF2
Problem: Spy backstab animation.
Solution: Remove backstab animation.

That's about it for me.

carsonnik
Copy Clerk
Posts: 73
Joined: 5 Jun 2008

FPS: Jericho
Problem: TOO FUCKING HARD!
Solution: Get rid of the completely bullshit suicide monsters... And bitch slap anyone who ever even mentions them again.

Fire Daemon
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2714
Joined: 18 Dec 2007

Indigo_Dingo:

Eggo:
Halo 3 is far more culturally prominent than COD4 but it's all semantics anyway; my point still stands.

I think the Halo series is more culturally prominent, but COD 4 is more prominent than Halo 3, which is the only one of the series to still be Console exclusive.

Halo 3 is the highest played xbox live game now, but cod4 did hold the spot of number one for around ten months.

FPS: CoD4
Problem: Too many team killers in hardcore difficulty.
Soloution: Make it so that when you shoot your team the damage goes to you. (IW willa ctually be putting this in, so yay!).

the_tramp
Muckraker
Posts: 276
Joined: 16 May 2008

stompy:

FPS: Half Life
Problem: Not available in a hard copy any more
Solution: Move out of Australia

Don't know where you're from but I could've sworn I saw the Anthology in the shop the other day (UK). Otherwise go to a Games Exchange or similar, somewhere must have it.

Amnestic
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 3201
Joined: 22 Aug 2008

Grenade spamming in COD4 only happens on shipment and wet work though :o

=/ It really doesn't. Every single bloody game, no matter the map.

For mine:
Halo 3
Problem: Shitty 5-10 hour storymode.
Solution: Fire the bad writers. Hire good ones. Double/Triple storymode length. This *is* the end of the trilogy after all

fix-the-spade
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1059
Joined: 25 Feb 2008

Dayantis:
FPS: Team Fortress 2
Problem: It's too addictive and eats my time.
Solution: Break my fingers.

Problem: your fingers are broken
Solution: Learn to play with your feet

Game: Day of Defeat: Source
Problem: Spawn camping Machine gunners
Solution: Add in server option to auto-slay players who fire repeatedly into spawn areas.

Novajam
Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 512
Joined: 26 Apr 2008

Indigo_Dingo:
FPS: TF2
Problem: Spies sapping mah Sentry!
Solution: Use wrench as needed.

I know, I'm horrible

image

I'm worse.

Game: Portal (Xbox360 Version)
Problem: No level editor
Solution: Add one, even if as priced DLC

Game: Half Life 2
Problem: The airboat section
Solution: Fix the damn teleporter

Game: Halo 3
Problem: Vehicles have a frustrating control scheme, steer from the center, have tyres that are coated with butter, and in general handle like bricks.
Solution: Impliment better driving physics, add a simple RT=Accelerate, LT=Brake/Reverse, LS= steer, A=Handbrake system, like any sensible driving mechanic would.

fix-the-spade:

Dayantis:
FPS: Team Fortress 2
Problem: It's too addictive and eats my time.
Solution: Break my fingers.

Problem: your fingers are broken
Solution: Learn to play with your feet

I sense a vicious cycle coming on.

Random argument man
Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 755
Joined: 21 May 2008

FPS: Goldeneye
Problem: Needs to be on xbox live
Solution: Force the creators against their will.

fix-the-spade
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1059
Joined: 25 Feb 2008

Random argument man:
FPS: Goldeneye
Problem: Needs to be on xbox live
Solution: Buy a N64, 4pads and Goldeneye

It would be cheaper than buying it on XBLA, possibly.

FPS: Halo Series
Problem: The 'community'
Solution: Compulsory modification to all controllers. Administers electric shock sufficient to render victim unconcious then shuts down console if:
i) Player is under 15 and attempts to connect to live.
ii)Player uses cusses, racial epithets, noob or variation(s) whilst mic button is active.
iii) Player repeatedly attacks team mates
iv) Player makes more than 3 kills within opposing team's spawn area(s) without leaving.
v) Player attempts to leave negative feedback for 'unsporting conduct' because they are losing.

If five shocks are administered within seven days of each other, sixth shock will be fatal to user.
I estimate that this will clean up Xbox live (whilst simultaneously decimating the teenage population of the United State of America, Europe and Russia) within one week.

wilsonscrazybed
Red Guard
Posts: 1789
Joined: 16 Dec 2007

hagaya:
Name an FPS, say a problem you have with it, and think of a way to solve said problem.

How about you start with an example?

LordOmnit
Press Junketeer
Posts: 480
Joined: 8 Oct 2007

FPS: Everything new in The Orange Box
Problem: Won't play on my computer past; double-clicking the icon, start of a game, and first portal respectively
Solution: Copy all important data off of my computer, shoot it, replace with a better computer using XP instead of Vista

Dayantis
Copy Clerk
Posts: 84
Joined: 3 Jan 2008

Credge:

FPS: TF2
Problem: Pyro is a hard counter to many classes.
Solution: Soldier, against backburners. Heavy against Pyros, esp. Natasha (keeps enemmies at range just as suggested) Medic with Blutsauger... There are plenty of ways to counter a Pyro!

Eggo
PROBATION
Posts: 2827
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

Indigo_Dingo:
I can see what you're saying, yes, but I fail to see your point. You're saying that arguably the most well known console exclusive First Person Shooter is on a system that has no mouse support - I say that there are some console exclusive FPS that have mouse support on the Ps3 via the Frag FX. If one system is behind in this respect, that does not detract from the other being at a sufficient level for it to not be a problem for that console, or rather that the problem itself is exclusive to one console (the Wiimote works brilliant for FPS's, so long as they don't require swordfighting)(don't say keyboard is better than buttons, thats just getting argumentative).

The Frag FX still doesn't constitute non-borked mouse support though.

And if the manufacturer of the second best selling console out there explicitly doesn't want mouse support, then you have to wonder why Microsoft would do such a thing. Maybe they don't want to cannibalize PC gaming sales or something?

And yeah, the Wiimote works really well for FPS games...Now we just have to wait for The Conduit to come out :]

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