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Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1520
Joined: 5 Jul 2008

Indigo_Dingo:

Woe Is You:
I've always wondered why there aren't any sandalpunk RPGs. I'm a sucker for alternative fiction in general (I gobbled up Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader because of it despite the fact that the game was pretty crap), but sandalpunk is massively underrepresented in just about any fiction space.

An RPG with a backdrop where ancient Greeks had invented the steam engine, and proceeded to conquer the world? Count me in. Hell, I might start work on that project myself. I have a huge design sheet for it.

Isn't that an urban myth? That Archimedes invented a steam powered canon?

That might be, but Heron invented a steam ball, so they were very very close to inventing an actual steam engine.

Graustein:

Idk, if that game had a decent story it might've made up for the horrible gameplay, but tbh I didn't actually find the gameplay THAT unbearable, it was the STORY that drove me away. The anachronism is just too much for me, a history geek, to bear. Had the game had a nice story I'd have stayed, but I draw the line at da Vinci showing up for no reason and teleporting me to Barcelona.

Well, it was an alternative world where magic and spirits really existed. Of course, I'd have liked if they hadn't gone the magic route when they were writing their alternative history, but I found the whole premise interesting enough for me to continue. Lots of lost potential, though, I agree.

One problem was with the fact that it really didn't know what it wanted to be. During the Barcelona sections the game played like Arcanum and Fallout in that it gave you different ways of solving quests, but then when you get out of there, the game devolves into Diablo. And if you made the mistake of actually thinking of surviving when your character is a wimpy silvertongue...you basically made the game impossible to beat. Not so awesome.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2693
Joined: 6 Jun 2008

The Iron Ninja:

Eldritch Warlord:
I'm suprised there don't make more Pirates/Ninjas/Pirates vs Ninjas games.

Yeah why the hell not? Maybe if we throw Robots and Vikings into the mix as well...

And some form of Zombies too.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 854
Joined: 4 Jun 2008

Good FPSs and by that I mean First-Person-Stabbers and by that I mean sword games in first person. I think Thief was the first step in the right direction (press Mouse1 once for a attack, hold it for a more powerful attack) but I think they failed in using Space for block, rather than Mouse2. Though you could forgive Looking Glass, as Thief was a stealth game.

I've played JKII:Outcast and Oblivion, but I don't think they did a good job when played in 1st person view.

Syphonz:

Downside:
How about a suicide bomber game

your a suicide bomber and have to infiltrate buildings and blow yourself up or highjack planes to crash etc. Could be done in the style of hitman. You would just have to be a different bomber at the start of every mission.

Will never get made as its too controversal.

C&C Generals. GLA FTW!

"I love a crowd!"

Generals was banned in Germany. I wonder why.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 3887
Joined: 7 Nov 2007

A decent MGS

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2352
Joined: 14 Sep 2008

sirdanrhodes:
A decent MGS

MGS: The Twin Snakes and Snake Eater

Paperboy
Posts: 29
Joined: 16 Sep 2008

Unholy War 2. I cannot even quantify the countless hours i spent playing this game and wishing it was on PC so I could make new maps and characters.

Muckraker
Posts: 342
Joined: 15 Jul 2008

the second and third parts of the Advent trilogy, the first game (Advent Rising) was pretty fun and ahead of its time in terms of physics. It probably didn't sell enough units, but then again it took me 6 months to even track down a copy here in the Netherlands, so I guess they only released it in the US.

Beat Writer
Posts: 174
Joined: 18 Jul 2008

-Another traditional Mechwarrior Simulator. Hell, a Battletech related game at all would be nice.

-On the subject of simulators, another Star Wars Space Sim set during the original trilogy (or EU material set after the OT). And no real need to incorporate any force/jedi or any of that other stuff that we have seen waaay to much of lately. I just want to blow rebel scum out of the sky, a simple wish. Throw in an optional semi-perpetual campaign (a-la Heavy Gear and many flight sims) with a good random mission generator, and then I can die happily.

-And now that I have brought that up...another Heavy Gear game. About the war between the north and south, including the vast customization of Gear parts. (I know they were toying around with the idea of making a game based on that retarded "sport-show" version...idk if the ever did so or not)

-Despite many of the glaring flaws, I felt the game Jurrasic Park: Trespasser was an increadible experience. For me, it was more involving than most of what out at that time. I would love to see a game done in that style, or even that game remade.

King of the Yetis
Posts: 2539
Joined: 15 Jul 2008

onethought99:

Decoy Doctorpus:
Deus Ex 2

Whaa!?!
The Invisible War

No. I think you'll find there was not a sequel to Deus Ex.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1016
Joined: 21 May 2008

An FPS that doesn't attempt to tell an EPIC and DEEP story, but just puts you in front of hundreds of monsters for no real reason.
You know, the way they used to be made.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1180
Joined: 25 Jan 2008

AboveUp:
An FPS that doesn't attempt to tell an EPIC and DEEP story, but just puts you in front of hundreds of monsters for no real reason.
You know, the way they used to be made.

What, like Serious Sam?

Beat Writer
Posts: 151
Joined: 27 Aug 2008

Pong. i mean the first ever real video game. how did they know that it would sell. There's no possibale way they could know that it would evolve in into the multi billon dollar industry that in is now. back then it must have been some crazy idea made by a couple of students that they developed for no reason, other than it being something to do.

Paperboy
Posts: 33
Joined: 2 Oct 2007

Knights of the Old Republic 3 (Clings desperately to the possibility that it's what Lucas Arts and Bioware currently are working on.)

Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2

Please? :(

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 869
Joined: 7 Nov 2007

Indigo_Dingo:

A Hack and Slash Adventure game based on the World of World of Warcraft. A lot of that stuff is really cool, but only deeply committed players can reach it. Just give the rest of us a chance to fight these things.

You scare me when you say that. Beat'em ups and hack and slash are one of my favorite genres. Do you mean only WoW commited players or committed hack and slash players?
I think beat'em ups and hack and slash are awesome fun, especially in co-op and that you don't need any level of hardcore ...playness to enjoy them.
I am really scared that there is no more demand for those games and that they're almost a dying genre. If one FPS out of ten was instead a beat'em up, I'd be happy.
And yes, I still play Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Violent Storm, Vandetta, Turtles in Time, Final Fight and Knights of the Round because there's nothing new in the genre while sadly every other genre had its progress.

So yeah, I want a Wow Beat'em up.

BANNED
Posts: 12958
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

kanada514:

Indigo_Dingo:

A Hack and Slash Adventure game based on the World of World of Warcraft. A lot of that stuff is really cool, but only deeply committed players can reach it. Just give the rest of us a chance to fight these things.

You scare me when you say that. Beat'em ups and hack and slash are one of my favorite genres. Do you mean only WoW commited players or committed hack and slash players?
I think beat'em ups and hack and slash are awesome fun, especially in co-op and that you don't need any level of hardcore ...playness to enjoy them.
I am really scared that there is no more demand for those games and that they're almost a dying genre. If one FPS out of ten was instead a beat'em up, I'd be happy.
And yes, I still play Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Violent Storm, Vandetta, Turtles in Time, Final Fight and Knights of the Round because there's nothing new in the genre while sadly every other genre had its progress.

So yeah, I want a Wow Beat'em up.

No, not beat em up - hack and slash, a genre that had arguably its defining game made three years ago, and many immitators after it (one of which is TFU).

And I meant deeply committed WOW players. Nobody who spends only a couple hours on there a week will ever see C'Thun or the Four Horsemen.

Beat Writer
Posts: 127
Joined: 25 Sep 2008

I was always flummoxed as to why Square, instead of actually making a proper sequal to Xenogears, decided it would be a great idea to fire everyone involved and pretend it didn't happen. Thus causing the horrible, horrible Xenosaga series of games which were about as similar to the unique idea of having Mechs in an RPG (not counting Front Mission) that included platforming as mustard is to yellow crayons.

Well, that and a proper sequal to Chrono Trigger. Yes, yes, you can go one forever about Chrono Chross, and while I admit the game was good, it just isn't what I was looking for in a CT sequal. Instead of actually having anything to do with Chrono and the others it just faffed on about paradoxes and did it's best to kill off as many characters from the original as it did introduce new and very shallow characters for this one. Oh, and I thought the updated "Element" system was a load of crap. But oh well.

As for sequals that never came... what about EarthBound 2 (har har har). Maybe I should have said EarthBound 64, seeing as we actually DO have a sequal, just not one that us English speakers will ever be able to play and comprehend.

Or maybe Flashback 3 (I forgot the subtitle it had, Legends or something). Also what about a sequal to Shadow of the Colossus? I could have sworn they said another one was in the works and nothing ever happened. What the hell.

Of course, while I'm dreaming, what about a Mischief Makers 2. Or Megaman Legends 3. I'm pretty darn certain those games were in the works but got canned. Oh and the obligatory Metroid Dread. I'm sick of them pissing all over the series with these awful 3-D ones, or 2-D REMAKES that weren't even needed, considering that Super Metroid WAS the "remake" of Metroid that managed to work itself in as a sequal.

Or Star Fox 2, oh wait, we have that silly if somewhat canon-nightmare-inducing Command game.

Eh, I'm rambling now.. and dreaming, apparently.

EDIT: Oh damn, I forgot River City Ransom. I mean, sure, I heard the Kunio games went on for a good while in Japan, but us poor sods never got a drop of that, now did we?

Paperboy
Posts: 11
Joined: 12 Sep 2008

Ninjas-vs-Pirates-vs-Vikings-vs-Robots-vs-Zombies!
In the final level, you have to team up to defeat Cthullu.

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Another RTS that does what the single-player campaign in Homeworld and its sequels does: you keep your stuff between levels. Knowing you can't throw away what you have now, and that you'll have an opportunity to spend saved cash on new stuff later, makes a huge difference in game play.

I also like the First-Person-Stabbers idea, with no guns, just melee weapons. And armour makes you move slower, because it's heavy.

No deep or compelling story in a FPS, just go crazy. Once I saw a mod for Battlefield 1942, one that had been apparently revised from an earlier comprehensive mod, that was advertised in the download menu by "Monster trucks now bigger! Zepplins now faster!" and so on. Genius.

I'd personally really like to see remakes of both Star Control and Star Control II. Never going to happen, I know, but I can dream.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 3483
Joined: 8 May 2008

Well both games I want have been created but never released outside of Japan.
A game based off Devilman also the second Berserk game.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 362
Joined: 13 Aug 2008

Eldritch Warlord:

The Iron Ninja:

Eldritch Warlord:
I'm suprised there don't make more Pirates/Ninjas/Pirates vs Ninjas games.

Yeah why the hell not? Maybe if we throw Robots and Vikings into the mix as well...

And some form of Zombies too.

Let's add some vampires, too. Gotta have vampires. Maybe we could combine some of the groups into hybrids and have "Zombie Ninjas vs. Robot Vikings vs. Vampire Pirates". That game would be awesome.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 429
Joined: 11 Jan 2008

A current-gen Beat 'Em Up, possibly reviving the genre. The last one I recall trying that is Square's The Bouncer, which wasn't at all well recieved (too short is the most common complaint I hear). With the recent upheval in new, fast-paced action games like Ninja Gaiden and DMC it wouldn't be hard to add some flash, speed, and substance to the usual 'walk along, punch, walk along, punch'.

Copy Clerk
Posts: 118
Joined: 2 Jan 2008

Lukeje:

romitelli:
"Erotic Pirates II"

Surely with your avatar, you should be saying 'Full Throttle 2'?

Full Throttle 2.

Paperboy
Posts: 28
Joined: 12 Sep 2008

halo

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2693
Joined: 6 Jun 2008

L1250:

Eldritch Warlord:

The Iron Ninja:

Eldritch Warlord:
I'm suprised there don't make more Pirates/Ninjas/Pirates vs Ninjas games.

Yeah why the hell not? Maybe if we throw Robots and Vikings into the mix as well...

And some form of Zombies too.

Let's add some vampires, too. Gotta have vampires. Maybe we could combine some of the groups into hybrids and have "Zombie Ninjas vs. Robot Vikings vs. Vampire Pirates". That game would be awesome.

I think Zombies and Vampires go together.

And the game needs some Giant Enemy Crabs, you get real-time weapon switching and can attack the weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

And lets not forget Cthulu, and aliens, and some Norse mythology/High fantasy creature.

Oh God, seriously, why does this not exist?

BANNED
Posts: 12958
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

Eldritch Warlord:

L1250:

Eldritch Warlord:

The Iron Ninja:

Eldritch Warlord:
I'm suprised there don't make more Pirates/Ninjas/Pirates vs Ninjas games.

Yeah why the hell not? Maybe if we throw Robots and Vikings into the mix as well...

And some form of Zombies too.

Let's add some vampires, too. Gotta have vampires. Maybe we could combine some of the groups into hybrids and have "Zombie Ninjas vs. Robot Vikings vs. Vampire Pirates". That game would be awesome.

I think Zombies and Vampires go together.

And the game needs some Giant Enemy Crabs, you get real-time weapon switching and can attack the weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

And lets not forget Cthulu, and aliens, and some Norse mythology/High fantasy creature.

Oh God, seriously, why does this not exist?

If we're going to pull the Vampires=~= (I don't know how to make that symbol over the internet) Zombies thing, then we need to also do the Vikings=~=Pirates. We could have cavemen in there too.

Paperboy
Posts: 24
Joined: 29 Sep 2008

A DECENT zombie survival MMO focusing on players being forced to work together. Oh, and please don't try to make the working together aspect as unintuitive as possible (I'm looking at you, Dead Frontier).

dofuss.net:
Neanderthals vs. Homo-sapiens, a battle for existence.

Neanderthals are lone tribes but stronger with better weapon creation. However when environmental conditions change they have to move and start rebuilding. Homo-sapiens get to keep all their recourses and gain culture enabling them to recruit from other tribes.

Could be fun.

There is a Neanderthals versus Sapiens mod for Mount & Blade being worked on.

Paperboy
Posts: 24
Joined: 30 Apr 2008

How could anyone forget Psyconauts? Great story,gameplay,controls,etc.
Definitly should of had a sequal but no :( .

On the Record
Posts: 6452
Joined: 24 Apr 2008

A WH40K FPS that has heard of 'Canon'

Muckraker
Posts: 328
Joined: 8 Jul 2008

A sequel to Painkiller. Expansion packs are nice and so is the fact you can buy all three for $20 but a damn sequel would be nice.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2693
Joined: 6 Jun 2008

Indigo_Dingo:
If we're going to pull the Vampires=~= (I don't know how to make that symbol over the internet) Zombies thing, then we need to also do the Vikings=~=Pirates. We could have cavemen in there too.

I think just using the tilde (~) is appropriate. And of course I was talking stereotypes, Vampires and Zombies are both undead. Pirates would be Pirates of the Carribean style while Vikings would be the Viking raiders. Of course the two groups could be in a "Pirate Alliance" so they are the same faction. Vikings would of course be direct combatants while pirates would be rogues and ranged fighters.

And sure, why not some cavemen? They can have giant allies.

EDIT: Weird how I said "of course" so many times

Paperboy
Posts: 22
Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Voice-Man

Time Lord
Posts: 9921
Joined: 13 Feb 2008

Ghostbusters
A Dr Who Survival Horror Game
And another vote for Voiceman.

Time Lord
Posts: 9921
Joined: 13 Feb 2008

@Eldritch Warlord : There is a PnP RPG called Monkey, Ninja, Pirate, Robot

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1059
Joined: 23 Sep 2008

Jonathan Hexley:
A Guitar Hero 4 that isn't ripping off Rock Band.
Didn't see anyone go there.

Rock Band copy Guitar Hero first you must consider

Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 631
Joined: 17 Sep 2007

Hmm, I've always pined for the elusive Final Fantasy 7 remake. I want Urban Myth made into Urban Reality, and I want it to be satasfyingly delightful. :3

Press Junketeer
Posts: 366
Joined: 3 Oct 2007

A mix of Civilization and Europa Universalis 3. Real time pausable civilization creation with zoomable 3d "real" terrain, and wars with actual front lines and/or armies moving on the map, as well as cities that grew (in an absract way) on the map.

Or at the least a real time strategic level modernish war simulator, like HoI2, but more detailed, better/more detailed terrain, and the capacity to create logical offenses and concentrations of force as you would in modern warfare.

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